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al Furqaan
October 5, 2010, 03:49 AM
as far as pure hitters go, they're the best we've had barring shakib/tamim.

when i first started following cricket, our usual starts were 40-4 after 15 overs with hannan, javed, bashar leading the way. nowadays, our platform is decent, occaisionally solid. 160-4 after 35 overs is not a terrible launch pad. but riyad and naeem just won't cut it. especially since we don't have a Oram or Razzaq to blast 40 off 15.

i suggest we bring in the AAA battery back. they don't have to all play in each innings. but we need at least 2 of them to be pinch hitters at the end. if they fail, who cares, we will get 220 regardless. and with Raj and Shakib (and mash if healthy) maybe we can defend these 220-250 socres like we did at Bristol, and like we might do today against NZ.

we all know how ash can hit. we remember Aftab blasting that 6 of gillespie, and we remember Alok blasting Ishant Sharma all over the place in Karachi or lahore.

bring them back. bat them at 6-8. its time we scored runs in the batting PP and the last 10-12 overs. something we haven't done since that match in NZ where we started 25-5.

and mushy should bat at 3 or 4. no lower than that.

Rabz
October 5, 2010, 04:01 AM
Ash gonna be back in no time.
No worries bout that.

al-Sagar
October 5, 2010, 04:09 AM
Ash gonna be back in no time.
No worries bout that.

ash scored a century, ok.

but i feel next innings he will score Duck. and in the next 4 innings he will hardly cross 10-15

Bond
October 5, 2010, 04:14 AM
AAA is thousand times better than INM

Rabz
October 5, 2010, 04:47 AM
Our team is full of non performers.
A bunch here and there always fails to live up.
Ash would be in the team not simply because he is in sizzling form, but because someone in our middle, lower middle would fail to perform and that would prompt the selectors to go for Ash.

He is still a match winner.

lamisa
October 5, 2010, 12:29 PM
aftab,not now.he didn't perform in the 1st innings in the ctg match,he forgot how to hold a bat and he's fat!ashrafool,how many times have we given this bloke a chance and he fails to capitalize 99% OF THE TIME!but i still have faith in kapali,i say we should give him a go in the zim series provided he has decent stats this season

Ajfar
October 5, 2010, 02:24 PM
our team is full of non performer. Yes point taken. So we replace them with 3 other non performer??
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Rabz
October 5, 2010, 02:27 PM
^^ I only mention of Ash.
He is a proven match winner.

Aftab and Alok, no hope. They are done and dusted albeit a miracle.

roman
October 5, 2010, 02:31 PM
We have given enough opportunities to Ash and Aftab. Aftab is useless. We should give Alok a chance. Ash will be back for sure before the world cup. He is too big of a star to miss the WC. I wont be stunned if they bring Ash back against NZ

Ajfar
October 5, 2010, 02:35 PM
^^ I only mention of Ash.
He is a proven match winner.

Aftab and Alok, no hope. They are done and dusted albeit a miracle.

Rabz bhai proven? How so. Ya I know he single handlely won games for us. But how many games has he played so far in his career and how many has he won for us? Also when was the last time he on a game for us. Terms like proven doesnt apply to Ashraful. Terms like Eid applys to ashraful.
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nycpro96
October 5, 2010, 02:36 PM
Ash and Aftab I can understand but why Alok? I mean really. What has he ever done? Score a century against India? Thats about it. I don't understand why he's so overrated. Ash can be a clean hitter. He can be groomed into a pinch hitter and Aftab probably can adjust too.

roman
October 5, 2010, 02:38 PM
^^ .
He is a proven match winner.

.

He is also a proven dream breaker

Fazal
October 5, 2010, 02:51 PM
Last time they left our national team, our AAA battery was not that good:
http://wpcontent.answcdn.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/LeakedBattery_2701a.jpg/220px-LeakedBattery_2701a.jpg


Anything changed between then and now?

Rabz
October 5, 2010, 03:05 PM
Rabz bhai proven? How so. Ya I know he single handlely won games for us. But how many games has he played so far in his career and how many has he won for us? Also when was the last time he on a game for us. Terms like proven doesnt apply to Ashraful. Terms like Eid applys to ashraful.
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For years, and i means years after years, he was the lone fighter who shouldered the burden of our expectation, all by himself.
There was a time, we had only Ash.
And, thats it.
With the willow in hand, we didnt have anyone to dream with, no one could either.
Our dream started the moment Ash walked into the field and finished the moment he left.

More often than not, yes, we were dissapointed. But before you blame the whole thing onto him, please do remember our cricketing culture, our social culture, our sporting history and glories.
No one in the history of our 39 years of existence had to walk around with as much expectation as Ash did in his pimple faced years.

But the days he stood up for himself and for his country, those were glorious days. When his bat sang, the whole 160 million danced with it. He stood up against the improbable and done the impossible.
And it was only Mohammad Ashraful of Bangladesh, could have done that from Bangladesh, for Bangladesh.

Now we have Tamim.
Now we have Sakib.
Mashrafee was always there, but we've spent a better part of his career wondering whether to let him roar or bubble wrap him.

But for all he had to endure, I'm pretty confident that Inshallah Allah would pay him back in great many folds. All these love and adulation of the commoners doesn't go wasted.

Ash would get back in the team on his own merit and this time when he does, he would shine the way he was always meant to be.

I believe in him.
Sometimes you just do.

ashraful1
October 5, 2010, 03:12 PM
Most of the middle order did get into double figures which is an improvement, but we do need that one more batsman who is special in the middle overs so we can get a score more near 300

Nadim
October 5, 2010, 03:21 PM
You want a guy (Ahmed Ahamook) who recently said "Cricket khela onek koster" and he won't recommend any1 to become a cricket player" :lol:

Plus, Aftab wasn't even bothering to train with the 30 man squad so he has been left out later on.

Same goes with Alok, he have been called up for the A team 3 times since coming back from icl but refused to play....and came up with excuse(once was understandable as his dada died but other 2 was just an excuse)

Miraz
October 5, 2010, 03:38 PM
We should not go back to the days of AAA batteries. They had their days, succeeded occasionally but failed on most occasions.

Now it is time for new generation batteries with better consistency and longevity.

revolver
October 5, 2010, 03:48 PM
Ash and Aftab I can understand but why Alok? I mean really. What has he ever done? Score a century against India? Thats about it. I don't understand why he's so overrated. Ash can be a clean hitter. He can be groomed into a pinch hitter and Aftab probably can adjust too.

alok 10 times better then aftab...aftab is just waste for a batting slot in both international and domestic matches
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Fahim
October 5, 2010, 04:23 PM
We should not go back to the days of AAA batteries. They had their days, succeeded occasionally but failed on most occasions.

Now it is time for new generation batteries with better consistency and longevity.

i will take the AA (afab and ash) than the selfish mullah and defensive naeem any day.

Roni_uk
October 5, 2010, 04:33 PM
Why exactly would you want AAA back in ODI, we just won a match man... come on! Ah what I can suggest is that form a separate T20 team and install AA or even AAA.

Tiger-ess
October 5, 2010, 04:47 PM
For years, and i means years after years, he was the lone fighter who shouldered the burden of our expectation, all by himself.
There was a time, we had only Ash.
And, thats it.
With the willow in hand, we didnt have anyone to dream with, no one could either.
Our dream started the moment Ash walked into the field and finished the moment he left.

More often than not, yes, we were dissapointed. But before you blame the whole thing onto him, please do remember our cricketing culture, our social culture, our sporting history and glories.
No one in the history of our 39 years of existence had to walk around with as much expectation as Ash did in his pimple faced years.

But the days he stood up for himself and for his country, those were glorious days. When his bat sang, the whole 160 million danced with it. He stood up against the improbable and done the impossible.
And it was only Mohammad Ashraful of Bangladesh, could have done that from Bangladesh, for Bangladesh.

Now we have Tamim.
Now we have Sakib.
Mashrafee was always there, but we've spent a better part of his career wondering whether to let him roar or bubble wrap him.

But for all he had to endure, I'm pretty confident that Inshallah Allah would pay him back in great many folds. All these love and adulation of the commoners doesn't go wasted.

Ash would get back in the team on his own merit and this time when he does, he would shine the way he was always meant to be.

I believe in him.
Sometimes you just do.

Very nicely said Rabz bhai:up::up:
He has been a great serviceman for Bangladesh and Inshallah he will come back strongly :big_hug:

Huda
October 5, 2010, 07:35 PM
We seriosuly need at least one big hitter at the death to give us 250/260s from scores liek 210/220s, otherwise we won't be winning games on a regular basis. I say bring at least one of them back and give them a good 20 game run.

Tiger444
October 5, 2010, 07:47 PM
1st let them perform in the NCL and then we can talk about them coming back in to the team..otherwise there's no point of talking about them..I prefer having just Naeem in there because of his quality bowling..but if the 3 As perform then we can think about it..no guarantee that they will be consistent..

FagunerAgun
October 5, 2010, 08:56 PM
Most of the middle order did get into double figures which is an improvement, but we do need that one more batsman who is special in the middle overs so we can get a score more near 300
Good observation, agreeable and acceptable in the current situation. Hope when Tamim comes back, this situation will be even rosier.

Habib
October 5, 2010, 09:56 PM
AAA battery is not exactly the best advertisement for our cricket TBH. You need a big hitter right? Then go for Nazimuddin. He deserves to play before those 3.

Ajfar
October 5, 2010, 09:57 PM
AAA days are long one. You don't just walk into the national team anymore just because your name is Ashraful, Alok and Aftab.

I'm glad Ashraful is focusing on the NCL, with the ZIM series coming up and few more months before world cup he still has enough time to get things together before world cup. But right this moment just leave the dude alone.

yaseer
October 5, 2010, 10:13 PM
Ashraful will come back soon. I have no doubt about it. He is one of our icons and his days are noway over.

Aftab, I have a feeling by reading his interviews recently that he is not serious or not willing to fight to come back for an extended period. If it is so, then time to forget about Aftab.

Alok, we need to wait. I wish he has a fantastic show is this years domestic. In ODI, he can replace Riyad/Nayeem only IF he performs heavily in domestics and proves himself. At this moment, No.

Sohel
October 5, 2010, 11:16 PM
Motin: Lost faith and don't trust him, and once you don't have trust, you have nothing.

Aftab: The Special Olympian is not intelligent enough to play with and against guys with regular IQ. Basic cognitive function matters.

Alok: The drama-queen still has a chance because of the sad, disappointing and downward spiral Riyad and Nayeem are finding themselves in. Alok not only has to perform well, but both Riyad and Nayeem have to fail proportionately. Then there are guys like Nasir and Sabbir Rumman coming up the pipeline. Won't be easy.

Holden
October 5, 2010, 11:21 PM
This idea may not be as bad as it sounds. We do have a problem of too many slow, solid steady Eddies who can only really play at one pace and who struggle to change gears when needed to, namely Imrul, Raqibal, Mushy, Riyad and even the likes of Zunaid and Naeem who previously looked like they could up the pace when needed, now look toothless too.

It may improve the balance of the team if we limit the number of these steady Eddies to say a maximum of three and then put a slogger/big hitter/finisher/(orwhateverelseyouwanttocallthem) lower down the order. Definitely not the triple combo AAA but just may be one of them might not be so harmful. Maybe Ashraful to come in at 7 and hit a ten ball 20 might just give Bangladesh an extra edge that we seem to be lacking. So the batting line-up would look something like this:-

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul kayes
3. Zunaid Siddique / Raqibul Hassan
4. Mushfiqur Rahim / Jahrul Islam
5. Mahmadullah Riyad / Naeem Islam
6. Shakibul Hassan
7. Ashraful/ other slogger
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Bowler
10. Bowler
11. Bowler

I think the balance is a lot better in the line-up above than what we are playing at the moment and maybe we will finally utilise the batting power play that we seem to ignore till the last 5 overs.

But knowing our management they will bring Ashraful back and put him in the number 3/4 position and scratch their heads when he inevitable struggles to even resemble a cricketer. Also I might add this can only be done with the condition that this is for ODI and T20s only, I don't want to see him anywhere near the Test team or bowling.

bdtiger
October 5, 2010, 11:31 PM
don't find any usefulness of this thread! ambitious but understood why AAA instead of A :)

BANFAN
October 6, 2010, 12:54 AM
Ash and Alok needs to be back in place of Riyad & Nayeem. They will succeed more often than these two guys.

al Furqaan
October 6, 2010, 02:49 AM
Motin: Lost faith and don't trust him, and once you don't have trust, you have nothing.

Aftab: The Special Olympian is not intelligent enough to play with and against guys with regular IQ. Basic cognitive function matters.

Alok: The drama-queen still has a chance because of the sad, disappointing and downward spiral Riyad and Nayeem are finding themselves in. Alok not only has to perform well, but both Riyad and Nayeem have to fail proportionately. Then there are guys like Nasir and Sabbir Rumman coming up the pipeline. Won't be easy.

well Sohel bhai, thats part of my point. we trust these guys to throw the kitchen sink in a batting PP or from overs 42-50.

at worst, the 3 of them (or any 2 of the 3) will combine for 20-30 runs off as many balls. thats better than Mahmudullah "3 from 12" Riyad and Naeem "i forgot what a chhokka is" Islam.

keeping in mind that perhaps Naeem can be used as a part time offie, since he career econ is not as bad as i had previously thought. its under 5! but riyad's off spin doesn't offer anything, and if he can't bat, then he shouldn't be in the squad.

Tiger444
October 6, 2010, 07:24 AM
People don't realize but Naeem average wise has been the 3rd best bowler for us this year..he has an average of a 39 which is not bad..I remember that Mashud long time ago when Naeem 1st came in to the scene that Naeem has a lot of potential with the ball and is working hard on it..I think he continues the good work with the ball then there might be no more conversation..

Alchemist
October 6, 2010, 07:46 AM
Although Alok has to prove himself, I believe he has more potential than Naeem/Rock/Imrul. Aftab is a lost case. He had the power hitting ability, but unfortunately, he's reluctant to use his brain.

Riad is a good batsman.....just out of form now.