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shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 03:12 AM
Coming back after a long back, nobody expected him to score any runs.

Congrats Nafees :) Keep up the good work!

MohammedC
October 11, 2010, 03:18 AM
Congrats to SN.

Still has to work on those pull shot

AsifTheManRahman
October 11, 2010, 03:21 AM
And they thought Aftab was better than him. Even five of these don't truly portray the what-the-blitzkriegness of that thought:
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Just can't fathom the moronity of the dumboes we have in the management. Fire 'em all!

Nadim
October 11, 2010, 03:21 AM
Congarts!


Kayes vs Moffez is the real fight!

magic boy
October 11, 2010, 03:21 AM
Welcome back man! you had determination unlike Regular like Ashraful

keep it up

Shehwar
October 11, 2010, 03:24 AM
Always an SN fan! Always have been! LOVING IT!

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 03:31 AM
:out:, but well played 73

Tiger-ess
October 11, 2010, 03:45 AM
dayum let the guy play his next match atleast! lol

no but in all honesty I didnt think he get those 73 runs and with a strike rate of 100 as well!! so hats off to SN coz of his innigns we can win this match now in style. Hope he can keep it up and maybe just maybe the selectors would give him Imrul's spot!

Dilscoop
October 11, 2010, 04:13 AM
shakibrulez you are not doing justice to your nick. I thought you'd be different from us the Bangladeshies

al-Sagar
October 11, 2010, 04:27 AM
well done .... keep it up

Dilscoop
October 11, 2010, 04:29 AM
True Minnow killer

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 04:36 AM
shakibrulez you are not doing justice to your nick. I thought you'd be different from us the Bangladeshies
What happened mate? Just a pat on the back for the lad's efforts! I know he aint nothing great, but he did his job well so far. Don't read too much into it :D

One World
October 11, 2010, 04:47 AM
SN is the first Bangladeshi to score a century against Warne and Co. in his debut test.

Nadim
October 11, 2010, 04:52 AM
SN is the first Bangladeshi to score a century against Warne and Co. in his debut test.

It wasn't his debut Test O_W dada.

goru
October 11, 2010, 05:00 AM
Today only proved that SN is still a minnow-basher.

One World
October 11, 2010, 05:01 AM
It wasn't his debut Test O_W dada.

Right, it was Aftab's.

Habib
October 11, 2010, 05:02 AM
Take SN in place of Rock when Tamim comes back.

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 05:17 AM
Take SN in place of Rock when Tamim comes back.
I totally totally totally agree with this. Rokibul is one of the reasons why the team is still stuck at 250 odd, can't even rotate the fin strike :hairpull:

BANFAN
October 11, 2010, 05:46 AM
SN abar ki korlo, that was expected from him, for his existance. Went close to match his previous performances. I find Nothing extra to appreciate.

yaseer
October 11, 2010, 06:15 AM
Sabash SN.
We need in-form and confident SN back.
Tamim-SN would be the best combination for the WC if he continues like this.

cricket_king
October 11, 2010, 06:25 AM
He had it fairly easy-going, pretty much equivalent to minnow-bowling. I'm not convinced just yet, but I would love to see a few more of those shots off his bat.

MohammedC
October 11, 2010, 06:35 AM
Take SN in place of Rock when Tamim comes back.

So you have five lefty on top of the order. What happend to right hand batsmen in Bnagladesh.

ashraful1
October 11, 2010, 06:45 AM
New zealand bowling attack was decent, but I bet he cnt wait to play Zimbabwe
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IanW
October 11, 2010, 06:47 AM
He treated the New Zealand bowlers like they were Shane Warne ;)

Rifat
October 11, 2010, 06:56 AM
^^finally good to have you Back, Ian! what timing. can you remember the last time the Tiger's mauled an opposition in this manner? and that too without Ashraful, or Tamim or Mashrafee in the squad :o.

Shehwar
October 11, 2010, 06:59 AM
The Zimbabweans must already be having sleepless nights with the news of SN returning to the national fold!

_Rafi_
October 11, 2010, 07:05 AM
SN's problem was/is he cant play 140+ bowlers. Nz bowlers are 130ish and there was no swing at all. So SN could able to treat Nz like minnows. He is a good player of spin and dealt well against spin today. I am not convince to throw Imrul out of squad for SN atm. I will not play him in middle order either.

Rifat
October 11, 2010, 07:06 AM
a couple more innings like this will definitely seal his spot in the Team at least until the world cup is over

Elindada
October 11, 2010, 07:33 AM
http://www.thedailystar.net/rising/2006/08/05/special.htm , I interviewed him when i was a kid :P

Miraz
October 11, 2010, 08:06 AM
Too early!!

Let him score big and score consistently.

I hope this is not a false dawn. He is a good player, if he can stay in the mix, we will defintely get benefitted.

Tokai
October 11, 2010, 08:11 AM
No one ever denied the minnow bashing ability of SN. Against quality bowling, that is a different story. But I hope he grows past that.

firstlane
October 11, 2010, 08:17 AM
Today only proved that SN is still a minnow-basher.

Since when NZ became a minnow? I thought we and zimbweans were the minnows. NZ is a good ODI team. We just kicked their back.

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 08:45 AM
Too early!!

Let him score big and score consistently.

I hope this is not a false dawn. He is a good player, if he can stay in the mix, we will defintely get benefitted.
One thing I can safely say is I'd rather have a minnow basher than Rakibul who hogs strike and builds pressure on the lower order. And I'm not judging him by todays inning alone. He can make a decent test player - but a big no for ODIs.

Zunaid
October 11, 2010, 08:45 AM
Since when NZ became a minnow? I thought we and zimbweans were the minnows. NZ is a good ODI team. We just kicked their back.

not back

butt

we kicked butt today

simon
October 11, 2010, 08:53 AM
It's good if he can continue like this,he will strengthen our batting a lot.
Eventhough I'm not really a fan of SN,I will still wc him as long as he perfrms well.
The prblm for BD btting is that except Sakib & Tamim no1 can really score quickly,so SN's inclusion will make a huge diefference if he shows consistency.:) alldabest.:flag:

Tiger Manc
October 11, 2010, 09:42 AM
Well done Shahriar Nafees that was a beautiful innings and a joy to watch! Now do the same in the next 2 odis and take raqibul 'bore the crap out of the opposition' hasan's place.

lamisa
October 11, 2010, 09:53 AM
well,here's something.
people who want to see him in place of rok:what will happen to jahurul then,huh?our midle order is way too crowded now to let anyone else compete for the number 4 spot.we already have rok,jahurul and ash(with the century he scored in domestic) and maybe shuvogoto and a couple of new faces from the domestic circuit.
people who want to see him in place of the dhila imruilla(that includes me as well):tamim and SN combination(given SN's performance today) should mean only fireworks,which is a good thing because it will give us a good,quick start.however,the understanding between imrul and TI is very good,so i am a bit pessimistic about SN replacing imrul.however,imrul is so slow that he just isn't fit for ODIs.


anyways,good to see SN back amongst the runs.hope he continues his form during the rest of the series.so on an athar note it was "some brilliant piece of stuff by SN!"

MarufH
October 11, 2010, 11:16 AM
not back

butt

we kicked butt today

:up:

MarufH
October 11, 2010, 11:18 AM
well,here's something.
people who want to see him in place of rok:what will happen to jahurul then,huh?our midle order is way too crowded now to let anyone else compete for the number 4 spot.we already have rok,jahurul and ash(with the century he scored in domestic) and maybe shuvogoto and a couple of new faces from the domestic circuit.
people who want to see him in place of the dhila imruilla(that includes me as well):tamim and SN combination(given SN's performance today) should mean only fireworks,which is a good thing because it will give us a good,quick start.however,the understanding between imrul and TI is very good,so i am a bit pessimistic about SN replacing imrul.however,imrul is so slow that he just isn't fit for ODIs.


anyways,good to see SN back amongst the runs.hope he continues his form during the rest of the series.so on an athar note it was "some brilliant piece of stuff by SN!"

It's not only slow.. it is just pain to see the balls flying over his bat.... at times he looks like a number 11.... Makes us look like a minnow team. Although he is getting runs, but u should have top 6 players who looks like a proper batsman... thats all..

dolcevita
October 11, 2010, 11:23 AM
Ashfool is out for a while ...
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Baundule
October 11, 2010, 11:33 AM
Hail, SN, not only for the runs; but also for the attitude.

FagunerAgun
October 11, 2010, 11:34 AM
With bat, he simply outmuscled and oursmarted the Kiwis. Congrats!!

roman
October 11, 2010, 11:34 AM
So you have five lefty on top of the order. What happend to right hand batsmen in Bnagladesh.


We have Johurul Islam..Much better than Rokib

FagunerAgun
October 11, 2010, 11:36 AM
We have Johurul Islam..Much better than Rokib
Agree. Hopefull, BCB will notice this.

desirocker
October 11, 2010, 12:18 PM
We have Johurul Islam..Much better than Rokib

ya please have him in next match

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 12:21 PM
We have Johurul Islam..Much better than Rokib
Technically superior and has great ability to keep the scoreboard ticking. I would be shocked if he didn't turn out good. And excellent in fielder too.

Tiger444
October 11, 2010, 12:55 PM
Good batting by him but he has to keep it up..hopefully he doesn't fall off all of a sudden..

B_IKHAN_71
October 11, 2010, 12:59 PM
Today only proved that SN is still a minnow-basher.

Sorry but how the hell and since when was new zealand a minnow ??? if my memory serves me right aint they like number 6 in the world ?? seriously some people are just HATERS !!
Give the man a break instead of criticizing everything he does .:doh:

ammark
October 11, 2010, 01:08 PM
Credit where credit due. Abir played solid cricket. He's a way more competent and confident version of himself compared to his last few showings in the national team. Great innings today from him.
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Tiger444
October 11, 2010, 01:12 PM
Some of the shots he played showed how much talent he has..the guy can really bat..and these Kiwi bowlers are also very good bowlers but he really took them to the cleaners..but again lets see if he keeps it up..

Rabz
October 11, 2010, 01:30 PM
Good to see him putting up a fight for his place in the team.
Well played SN.
Though thought should have scored a century to put the concrete on that cement.

Ashfool is out for a while ...
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this is not ash bash thread.
stay on the topic please.
(Btw, if you must, Ash is not an opener, and the only person he is fighting with is himself. Log on to Ash thread for further discussion)

rinathq
October 11, 2010, 03:46 PM
Some people need to stop criticizing Nafees. He has one of the highest averages and he proved himself on the last 2 games. This field was a very low scoring field. Making 73 of 73 isn’t luck…..he hit the ball really hard and well. He took some risks which sum ppl kept saying “minnow bashing” first of all go check the dictionary and Tamim takes risks too….thats how u get runs rather than not taking risks like Imrul and Raqib.
Congrats to him. The problem remains who is he gonna replace? Its no doubt he will replace Imrul for T20. He might also replace him for ODI as well. Otherwise, its him and Junaid fighting for one down. Junaid might be moved to 2 down because I think Nafees is more comfortable at opening or 1 down to max. Raqib, Junaid, Nafees, Jahirul will be fighting for 2 sopts now. Lets see what happens! 

Antora
October 11, 2010, 04:36 PM
I was happy to see him score some big runs after such a long time. I do hope he can eep this up for the next few ODIS and not go into hybernation for another 3 years -_-

godzilla
October 11, 2010, 04:49 PM
He is filling up tamim's shoe quite nicely. I barely missed Tamim's batting since Nafees did what TAmim does all the way!!! On the other hand ... screw raquibul. He should have stayed in retirement -_-'

Ashfaq
October 11, 2010, 05:05 PM
Just read Sn's interview (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2010-10-12/news/100758)on PA. Looks like he really re-invented his outlook on life. From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat. Good for him.

shafayeen
October 11, 2010, 05:18 PM
Competiton can only be great for the team. if SN plays well, Imrul will play out of his sock to score well. If Imrul Scores well and so does SN, junaid and rok's place comes in jepordy. They will do their best too. At the same time, Jaharul will try to give his best at every oppurtunity he gets!!

Loving thiss!!

Murad
October 11, 2010, 05:26 PM
Just read Sn's interview (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2010-10-12/news/100758)on PA. Looks like he really re-invented his outlook on life. From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat. Good for him.

Thanks for the link.

He's definitely changed. He doesn't have the arrogance he had before. I don't know if he joined Tablig or not but he is following the path of Allah that's for sure.

shafayeen
October 11, 2010, 05:28 PM
From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat.

bhai, Where did u get this?? Just becuz somebody says alhamduililah, and is pious, doesnt mean he is "jaamaat." Theres a huge difference between being a good muslim and being a "jamati."

Please, dont generalize.

Nafees is looking at life differently. Alhamdulilah, that is great. May Allah Bless him.

Timtim
October 11, 2010, 06:00 PM
finally some justice to my avatar :)

Raynman
October 11, 2010, 06:30 PM
Maybe I've been partial to SN a bit because he is a fellow josephite but I've always felt that he is not done with the national team and has more to offer.

I'm not yet ready to pull out a told you so post yet though. A decent showing in the next two ODIs should give him a shot at the ZIM XI (lets see where in the order after Tamim returns) and then his WC possibility can be determined.

The new ZIM batting line up looks ominous so there will be a good opportunity for the BD batting line up to prove themselves.

Nasif
October 11, 2010, 06:46 PM
http://paloadmin.prothom-aloblog.com:8088/resize/maxDim/340x1000/img/uploads/media/2010-10-11-18-05-35-049371500-safeez.jpg http://content9.flixster.com/question/34/66/78/3466783_std.jpg

napoleonIV
October 11, 2010, 06:55 PM
[QUOTE=Ashfaq;1214894] From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat. QUOTE]

bhai, Where did u get this?? Just becuz somebody says alhamduililah, and is pious, doesnt mean he is "jaamaat." Theres a huge difference between being a good muslim and being a "jamati."

Please, dont generalize.

Nafees is looking at life differently. Alhamdulilah, that is great. May Allah Bless him.

Jamaat and Tablig jamaat are very very different things. :)

bujhee kom
October 11, 2010, 08:12 PM
Full respect and all the best wishes for Shahriar Nafees! I once wrote him off and I am sorry for that, he proved me worng and I am very glad that he is back and he is back to play a big strong part for the Tigers! Salaam Shahriar Nafees!

Ajfar
October 11, 2010, 08:23 PM
Good for him. The more competition at the top the better it will get.

Tiger444
October 11, 2010, 08:27 PM
Full respect and all the best wishes for Shahriar Nafees! I once wrote him off and I am sorry for that, he proved me worng and I am very glad that he is back and he is back to play a big strong part for the Tigers! Salaam Shahriar Nafees!

I wrote him off as well but he's giving some real competition now..he seems to have really worked hard on his batting and its paid off..

fishyguy
October 11, 2010, 08:48 PM
I was actually impressed with his technique especially on the front foot. I remember him having very little footwork before. When he came back earlier he looked like a complete fish out of water but a year outside the team may have allowed him to get his confidence back as well as improve his game technically.Its good to have healthy competition amongst the batters, too bad that's not the case with the fast bowlers.

beshideshi
October 11, 2010, 09:55 PM
No significant changes in his technique, still a see ball, get in a semi front foot position and hit ball player. But there is no way I will take away his deserving credit, he played really well today, commanding the opponent and toying with the field setting. But he never really had trouble in BD even against quality attacks, his weakness lies against quality swing bowling in testing condition and that is yet to be tested. I certainly hope he proves that he is not over yet

RazabQ
October 11, 2010, 10:27 PM
@beshideshi - hate to call you out buddy but you are wrong. I had a hunch yesterday and so just now went and checked old videos of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K8e6aZBnv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDHDvSKGXw

Compare that with yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbBmQArNns

You can clearly see that his stance is more side-on and his back-lift is straighter. In the two innings against Zim and Australia you can see that the bat points towards the slip and it's upward arc stops at about at 2 O-clock. Now it goes up straighter and more towards 1 O-clock. As such I think it is forcing him to walk towards the wider delivery (side-on will force that) as opposed slashing. At some point I remember reading that Siddons was working on his backlift and weakness outside off. So clearly the dude has, at least for now, tightened his technique.

Habib
October 11, 2010, 10:39 PM
^Atleast he wasn't getting squared up every now & then for a change. Good job Siddons mia.

RazabQ
October 11, 2010, 10:51 PM
@Habib - precisely. We can't just dismiss the NZ pacers. Southey & McKay are both fairly sharp and Mills get good bounce. McKay was shaping it in and Mills was seaming/swing it away from Nafees.

nobody
October 11, 2010, 11:00 PM
once a quisling always a quisling. I have not forgiven " ICL is the best thing that happened to me".

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 11:04 PM
^Atleast he wasn't getting squared up every now & then for a change. Good job Siddons mia.
Not only that, the players are now playing more proper cricketing shots than those airy fairy slogs - which is the biggest positive I see.

Thanks for the vids RQ, obviously there's a huge improvement in his footwork and balance. In those videos except for the slogs, he seems like a backfoot dominant player. But yesterday he played some great drives on the frontfood with perfect balance. Great improvement, I bet he toiled hard to correct this unlike Ash.

RazabQ
October 11, 2010, 11:06 PM
It's a misconception that Ash doesn't work hard - he is extremely hardworking. It's just that being a forest gump intellectual just doesn't cut it in International Cricket.

shakibrulz
October 11, 2010, 11:15 PM
It's a misconception that Ash doesn't work hard - he is extremely hardworking. It's just that being a forest gump intellectual just doesn't cut it in International Cricket.
It obviously doesn't reflect in his strokes - still keep for going for slogs and keeps on fishing around the offstump.

beshideshi
October 11, 2010, 11:31 PM
@beshideshi - hate to call you out buddy but you are wrong. I had a hunch yesterday and so just now went and checked old videos of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K8e6aZBnv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDHDvSKGXw

Compare that with yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbBmQArNns

You can clearly see that his stance is more side-on and his back-lift is straighter. In the two innings against Zim and Australia you can see that the bat points towards the slip and it's upward arc stops at about at 2 O-clock. Now it goes up straighter and more towards 1 O-clock. As such I think it is forcing him to walk towards the wider delivery (side-on will force that) as opposed slashing. At some point I remember reading that Siddons was working on his backlift and weakness outside off. So clearly the dude has, at least for now, tightened his technique.

Yup, epic fail there. In my defence, It's been a while since I last saw him bat :P But he still has a tendency to go half forward and then play the backfoot shots, but then again, every Bangladeshi/Indian player has that issue.
But I will still like to see him perform in swinging conditions before saying "yes, he is back" Right now, he is a good enough to play for Bangladesh, but he had potentials to become world class and after he gets a decent run in Aus/Eng/SA/NZ I will become a fan as well.
Also, one might think, why is it so hard for me to accept a better SN? He used to be my favourite batsman, my idol in many ways, but the way he left for ICL really hurt me, he may have already won many of you, but to win me over he still has to do a lot more.

mishu
October 12, 2010, 12:09 AM
So you have five lefty on top of the order. What happend to right hand batsmen in Bnagladesh.

lol left handed batsmen dominating + left handed bowlers dominating ... whats going on?

Ashfaq
October 12, 2010, 03:42 AM
^^ Bangladesh is becoming a Sinister team.

Ashfaq
October 12, 2010, 03:45 AM
From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat.

bhai, Where did u get this?? Just becuz somebody says alhamduililah, and is pious, doesnt mean he is "jaamaat." Theres a huge difference between being a good muslim and being a "jamati."

Please, dont generalize.

Nafees is looking at life differently. Alhamdulilah, that is great. May Allah Bless him.

Odd that you feel as if I have generalized. Where did I say That being pious equals being a jaamaati?

You know, I have a brain. Sometimes I hear something and associate that with some similar previous experience. It's called a hunch. That's what I posted. If you got a problem with that, well, that's your problem, isn't it?

Zunaid
October 12, 2010, 03:48 AM
^^ Bangladesh is becoming a Sinister team.

Heh. Would be happy if opposing teams fear us for both senses of the word.

Ashfaq
October 12, 2010, 04:05 AM
^^ True. It would be a nice change if our opponents start shaking in their boots thinking about how our team is so full of sinister people. Thanks for the quote fix.

ammark
October 12, 2010, 12:01 PM
Just read Sn's interview (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2010-10-12/news/100758)on PA. Looks like he really re-invented his outlook on life. From the sound of it, he may have joined Tablig jamaat. Good for him.

Indeed, very good and nuanced answers from him. I dont see what is the problem if Shahriar Nafees has become more introspective and "Niyotibadi". If thats what it takes to help him be less cocky and more hard-working, then hats off the the guy!

He has the mental fortitude and sharpness to be an excellent cricketer. He'll do well as long as he is willing to help himself improve and be a better cricketer - just as he has said that only his good performance is the key, not the outcome.

roman
October 12, 2010, 12:25 PM
bhai, Where did u get this?? Just becuz somebody says alhamduililah, and is pious, doesnt mean he is "jaamaat." Theres a huge difference between being a good muslim and being a "jamati."

Please, dont generalize.

Nafees is looking at life differently. Alhamdulilah, that is great. May Allah Bless him.


I couldnt have said it any better. Thank You

roman
October 12, 2010, 12:29 PM
I wrote him off as well but he's giving some real competition now..he seems to have really worked hard on his batting and its paid off..

So I was right then... :)

_Rafi_
October 13, 2010, 10:11 PM
Oops! Get smacked hardly.
Slight movement and SN gone for a Golden Duck:-):-):-)

hbk619
October 13, 2010, 10:16 PM
that was a good ball though, but he should be punished for not watching the ball closely.

crickwizard
October 13, 2010, 10:51 PM
may be we all appreciated too much...

Dhruvo
October 13, 2010, 10:59 PM
No, we didn't. He played a good innings last game. Yes he got out for a duck today, but that was a great ball, he should have done better but that's easier said than done. If we're gonna drop anyone for the next match, it should be rakibul, not SN.

crickwizard
October 13, 2010, 11:07 PM
SN won't be dropped this series because of this duck but SN needs to improve his technique outside the off stamp, he is weak (always been) in that area and NZ figured that out. If he can't fix it, he will have the same result in 4th game when ball swings in early overs

BANFAN
October 13, 2010, 11:19 PM
Should we have a depreciation thread ?

We really need more patience, before appreciation of a player; not just for a 50, neither depreciate with a '0'. it's no stock market. A player needs to show repeated performances. Wel, had it been a century, that's fine. Hundred is a hundred, not everyone can do it.

amar11432
October 14, 2010, 01:46 AM
Appreciation my a**!

goru
October 14, 2010, 01:56 AM
Today only proved that SN is still a minnow-basher.

lamisa
October 14, 2010, 01:59 AM
it's ok.he didn't get out on a bad ball...

One World
October 14, 2010, 02:01 AM
Cannot blame him, there was a lot of moisture and ball was basically swinging.

RazabQ
October 14, 2010, 02:16 AM
Any batsman would have been out on that. Jaffa

Zunaid
October 14, 2010, 02:27 AM
Any batsman would have been out on that. Jaffa

word

Tiger444
October 14, 2010, 07:13 AM
He's proved himself for sure but Imrul still should stay as the opener alongside Tamim..he's been consistent all year while SN just played 1 very good knock..he's definitely here to stay though and hopefully he can keep improving his skills and become a better batsman..

Kabir
October 14, 2010, 07:42 AM
Today only proved that SN is still a minnow-basher.

So basically, you mean to say that because he was out for a duck, he's bad.

Even Tendulkar can be out for a duck - not that I will compare the two.

Today you just proved that you cannot be taken seriously.

mona
October 14, 2010, 08:13 AM
Today you just proved that you cannot be taken seriously.

Who ever took him seriously?

As for SN, he better not blow it, that's all I'm sayin'.

PoorFan
October 14, 2010, 08:19 AM
SN won't be dropped this series because of this duck but SN needs to improve his technique outside the off stamp, he is weak (always been) in that area and NZ figured that out. If he can't fix it, he will have the same result in 4th game when ball swings in early overs
Well said, I hope he knows his weakness and work hard on it before last game.

Sohel
October 14, 2010, 09:20 AM
The first ball :duck: happens to the best of the best, and Abir ain't all that yet. Give him a break FPS! Learn the game.

shakibrulz
October 14, 2010, 09:27 AM
Should we have a depreciation thread ?

We really need more patience, before appreciation of a player; not just for a 50, neither depreciate with a '0'. it's no stock market. A player needs to show repeated performances. Wel, had it been a century, that's fine. Hundred is a hundred, not everyone can do it.
Whoa, hold on a sec. I just started this thread because I thought he'd fail miserably in the series, but he batted reasonably well to compensate tamim's loss. So just givin credits where it's due. Not that I think highly of him or something. He looked good while he batted though.

shakibrulz
October 14, 2010, 09:28 AM
There's no question of replacing kayes here, he's one of the key players for BD.
Rockybull should sit out though.

lamisa
October 14, 2010, 11:17 AM
^^^the problem with kayes is that he's too slow.he has fantastic chemistry with tamim and all that but he's still too slow.he should learn to rotate the strike...

magic boy
October 14, 2010, 12:04 PM
sometime we forget about the term Unplayable Delivery.SN was a victim of this lethal one today.nothing else to draw conclusion so early !

shakibrulz
October 14, 2010, 12:15 PM
^^^the problem with kayes is that he's too slow.he has fantastic chemistry with tamim and all that but he's still too slow.he should learn to rotate the strike...
Not too slow, he's alright given that he's scoring runs.

shakibrulz
October 14, 2010, 12:16 PM
sometime we forget about the term Unplayable Delivery.SN was a victim of this lethal one today.nothing else to draw conclusion so early !
Oh please, that was nowhere near unplayable, but it was a good delivery, can't blame SN too much for getting out for that.

simon
October 17, 2010, 02:08 AM
The BIG Question I wanted to ask after watching SN in these series,is he really back,is he really struggling when ever there is a slight mvmnt?or is he only capable of scoring in flat tracks?

yaseer
October 17, 2010, 02:09 AM
The BIG Question I wanted to ask after watching SN in these series,is he really back,is he really struggling when ever there is a slight mvmnt?or is he only capable of scoring in flat tracks?

These questions can be thrown to most Bangladeshi batsman.

Habib
October 17, 2010, 02:15 AM
But one thing is for certain that SN must not replace Imrul as Tamim's partner.

simon
October 18, 2010, 08:32 AM
after Sakib & Tamim, Imrul is the most reliable odi btsmn we hv.

_Rafi_
October 18, 2010, 10:10 AM
That was not lethal or unplayable ball. It was just a good ball. SN as an opener should have played the ball well. His late reaction made it lethal.

al-Sagar
October 18, 2010, 10:21 AM
SN may not replace Imrul, but i feel he is more than good enough to replace junaid or raqibul in 3 or 4

roman
October 18, 2010, 10:37 AM
Junaid and Nafees can share # 3 position. But we have to drop Rokib

RazabQ
October 18, 2010, 11:34 AM
Two lean scores, one due to an extremely useful, if not unplayable delivery, first up and the 2nd time to Nadir Shah's itchy-trigger finger. I'd say an incomplete so far. The technique is definitely tighter (refer to my video analysis above). Whether the occasional lazy footwork has completely gone remains to be seen.

Razi
October 18, 2010, 01:52 PM
Two lean scores, one due to an extremely useful, if not unplayable delivery, first up and the 2nd time to Nadir Shah's itchy-trigger finger. I'd say an incomplete so far. The technique is definitely tighter (refer to my video analysis above). Whether the occasional lazy footwork has completely gone remains to be seen.

Ditto.

cricket_pagol
October 18, 2010, 02:24 PM
Two lean scores, one due to an extremely useful, if not unplayable delivery, first up and the 2nd time to Nadir Shah's itchy-trigger finger. I'd say an incomplete so far. The technique is definitely tighter (refer to my video analysis above). Whether the occasional lazy footwork has completely gone remains to be seen.


Agree with you... but one good innings from SN does not deserve an appreciation thread!

But, on the bright side, his performance is putting pressure on Big Z. I love healthy competition in a team!!!

rinathq
October 18, 2010, 03:07 PM
As a lot of people mentioned,
His last dismissal was unfortunate, and it is possible that it wasnt even out.
Second, he will be given another chance for hsi techniques are much better and Siddons is pleased with him

But the best thing is, If Nafees gets in Raqib will be out makind out entire batting lineup much more aggressive.

zainab
October 19, 2010, 06:04 AM
Nafees will be no good on international tours, he is still not good to look at, and he still has problems with his footing, he may be mediocre at home.

BANFAN
October 19, 2010, 06:12 AM
As a lot of people mentioned,
His last dismissal was unfortunate, and it is possible that it wasnt even out.
Second, he will be given another chance for hsi techniques are much better and Siddons is pleased with him

But the best thing is, If Nafees gets in Raqib will be out makind out entire batting lineup much more aggressive.

Nafis will be better at # 3/4, because he still has that problem of inswinging new ball. If he is in the team after TI comes in.

SN basically played one good innings, under very low pressure chasing 174. Not well tested yet IMO

Jadukor
October 19, 2010, 06:49 AM
doesnt matter if he is good or bad... one thing is undeniable Nafees is Bradmanesque against Zimbabwe... I hope he will score loads of runs and secure his place...

lamisa
October 19, 2010, 09:43 AM
if SN replaces rokib in odis then where will omi play??he was left out even when he performed!

Holden
October 19, 2010, 12:08 PM
To me there should be no way SN replaces Imrul in ODIs, and I'm not even a big supporter of Imrul. The facts are there for all to see, Imrul has an overall average of 31.07 with a strike rate of 66.33, and the majority of these games have been against the G8 teams (his averages slightly higher but with a slightly lower strike rate against G8). Compared to this SN has an overall average of 33.49 with an strike rate of 70.82, whilst this may seem impressive, but once you break it down into against G8 and against minnows, then it tells another story.
He has played just over half his games against G8 with an average of 18.21and a strike rate of 65.18, which means his average and strike rate against minnows is 52.88 and 73.60 respectively, hence the reason why he is called a minnow basher.

We all know Imrul has his faults, mainly being that he is slow in strike rate and is poor at rotating the strike, which is even more frustrating as he bats in the initial batting powerplay. But he has his good points as well, he is in the top 3 most run scorers this year, which is a big achievement when you consider that he is a relative new comer to international cricket. Hopefully he will iron out his weakness and do even better as he gets more experience.
The only way we should even think about replacing him is if he loses form and someone better comes along who can average close to 30 or more and has a superior strike rate, including against G8 than Imrul. SN has to show he can perform consistently at a high level to replace Imrul.

shakibrulz
October 19, 2010, 12:14 PM
Did someone even say that SN should replace Imrul? :o

SN deserves his chance though, he can replace Rokibul at #4 and probably Rahim can sit out for Jahurul.

Fazal
October 19, 2010, 12:17 PM
Both SN and Emrul should stay for now, even when Tamim comes back. Sn can bat @ #3. Rakibuk should go for good, he is not bringing anything in DOI batting order. And even Junaid should sit give Jahirul some chance @4, even though Junaid should be part of the long term solution. For now he need to sit some games and give other players (Jahirul/Hom, etc) some chance.

crickwizard
October 19, 2010, 10:16 PM
yeah,
Tamim in, SN goes one down, ROK out
Johirul in, Junaid out

Also evaluate if Rahim should play ODI given Johirul is a better wkt keeping batsman.

Eshen
October 19, 2010, 11:27 PM
I am still not convinced SN is a good top order option. One good innings does not prove much. SN showed much better form against Aussies in 2006 but then fell on the wayside in subsequent matches.

However, he plays both pace (when ball is older or when medium pacers bowling) and spin well enough to be considered for the #4 slot.

It will be kinda amusing though if we go with 5 lefties for all five top batting positions (Tamim, Imrul, Zunaed, SN, Shakib).

Dilscoop
October 19, 2010, 11:38 PM
I would rather play Imrul Kayes than SN. He couldn't play the short deliveries even in these Bangladesh flat pitches. What will happen to him, if he goes to NZ, or Eng? At least Imrul Kayes kinda sorta fixed that problem and feels lot more comfortable

shakibrulz
October 19, 2010, 11:44 PM
yeah,
Tamim in, SN goes one down, ROK out
Johirul in, Junaid out

Also evaluate if Rahim should play ODI given Johirul is a better wkt keeping batsman.
Jahurul in Mushy out sounds better. When was the last time he scored a 50 in ODIs?

shakibrulz
October 19, 2010, 11:46 PM
It will be kinda amusing though if we go with 5 lefties for all five top batting positions (Tamim, Imrul, Zunaed, SN, Shakib).
Yeah that is a worry. Then I think Zunaid out Jahurul in but Junaid is one of the few batsmen who can get quick runs in this lineup

BANFAN
October 19, 2010, 11:51 PM
I am still not convinced SN is a good top order option. One good innings does not prove much. SN showed much better form against Aussies in 2006 but then fell on the wayside in subsequent matches.

However, he plays both pace (when ball is older or when medium pacers bowling) and spin well enough to be considered for the #4 slot.

It will be kinda amusing though if we go with 5 lefties for all five top batting positions (Tamim, Imrul, Zunaed, SN, Shakib).

Yes, # 4 sounds good for him & the team. Remove ROK from ODIs

Can't we have another 6 lefties to make it 11? :)