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ahnaf
December 2, 2010, 02:30 AM
I hate to say this, but BD wouldn't have lost this game if Rakibul had played yesterday instead of Ashrafool.

how???
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shakibrulz
December 2, 2010, 02:36 AM
how???

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Because from whatever I've seen, the guy doesn't run out his partners, drop dollies, and get out scoring a single digit score in every match.

ahnaf
December 2, 2010, 03:25 AM
Because from whatever I've seen, the guy doesn't run out his partners, drop dollies, and get out scoring a single digit score in every match.
heres ur answer
I'd beg to differ there..
Zunaed was running to the danger end, so it was his call.

Ash pushed the ball for a single, once he was few steps of the crease, both him and Zunaed looked at each other and then Z took off, responding to Ash's call.

The rule is, Z was running to the danger end, so he has to ascertain his own danger and call that shot. He had the right to say NO to that single and make Ash return back. But once he ran, he never bothered to even stretch or jump for the crease while he was approaching to the keeper's end and it was getting a tight call.

This is not the first time I've seen Zunaed running himself out by responding to the other batsman's danger call. He should learn to stand his own ground or else end up running himself out.
nd about dropped catch.. Did any of them score big??
Nd what u'll choose between
15 from 54 ball
6 from 10??

shakibrulz
December 2, 2010, 04:08 AM
heres ur answer

nd about dropped catch.. Did any of them score big??
Nd what u'll choose between
15 from 54 ball
6 from 10??
Yesterday, his 15 from 54 because Shakib just needed someone to stay at the other end. Runrate was never out of reach with Shakib at the other end. And oh, this is not the first time Ash has run out his partners. Stupid of Zunaid to trust this clown and run, I admit. And his score mattered as Zimbabwe won by a very narrow margin.

Slow batting+Excellent fielding+Putting a price on his wicket>>>Brain farts+Running partners out+Pathetic fielding - was that so hard?

ahnaf
December 2, 2010, 04:25 AM
Yesterday, his 15 from 54 because Shakib just needed someone to stay at the other end. Runrate was never out of reach with Shakib at the other end. And oh, this is not the first time Ash has run out his partners. Stupid of Zunaid to trust this clown and run, I admit. And his score mattered as Zimbabwe won by a very narrow margin.

Slow batting+Excellent fielding+Putting a price on his wicket>>>Brain farts+Running partners out+Pathetic fielding - was that so hard?

do u get what i tell? It was junaeds call not ash.. Its all mistake of junaed...
ash isnt a bad fielder.. Ya..he is not so good but he is ok... Nd another thing rokibul didnt play yesterday.. I was talking about raqibs 2nd odi vs nz.. Nd i think u didnt watch last odi..

Zunaid
December 2, 2010, 05:01 AM
moved out from another thread as this sub-thread was off topic... carry on here

Nadim
December 2, 2010, 05:05 AM
None!

Boss, Poll hoile bhalo hoito :)

crikss
December 2, 2010, 05:14 AM
None....both pissed me off!! But lately ash sucks big time than Rock

Brit-boy
December 2, 2010, 05:34 AM
none of the should be in the ODI squad. to me.. Ashraful mybe in twenty20s, raqibul in test, thats it. BD need to change things, some players cant play certain format well, so therefor...basicly have differnt teams for TESTs, ODIs AND TWENTY20s..
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tuf41
December 2, 2010, 05:47 AM
none of the should be in the ODI squad. to me.. Ashraful mybe in twenty20s, raqibul in test, thats it. BD need to change things, some players cant play certain format well, so therefor...basicly have differnt teams for TESTs, ODIs AND TWENTY20s..
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I agree with you 100% brit boy, if bangladesh looses the next match i am calling hortal, ''BNP and Co move aside!!''

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

Time for Cricket Revolution.

Baundule
December 2, 2010, 06:42 AM
None. Bring Jahurul or Shahriar Nafees.

cricket_king
December 2, 2010, 06:48 AM
Both of them are crap in their own way. But if I had to choose, even Ashraful would be a better choice over Rakibul. I can't stand that guy.

shakibrulz
December 2, 2010, 06:52 AM
do u get what i tell? It was junaeds call not ash.. Its all mistake of junaed...
ash isnt a bad fielder.. Ya..he is not so good but he is ok... Nd another thing rokibul didnt play yesterday.. I was talking about raqibs 2nd odi vs nz.. Nd i think u didnt watch last odi..

I was talking about ash's drop catch. I dont want to see both either, but my point is rokibul sucks less compared to ash.
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Night_wolf
December 2, 2010, 07:03 AM
ash or rock?...my god!...where has our cricket come!...now we have 2 make this suicidal decision!

simon
December 2, 2010, 07:19 AM
Rock is way better.
First of all his average is a lot better than Ash,secondly he is a much better fielder than Ash too.
Ash is no more a quick scorer,if u look at his last innings he was very slow too.
And the way Ash gets out(often gets the non striker out too) is too ridiculous,atleast Rakib won't run some1 out & he doesn't get dismissed in any awkward fashion.

M.H.Rubel
December 2, 2010, 07:23 AM
It seems to me if Rock was in the yesterdays team we would have win the match.But ultimately in current status i like none of Ash or Rock.IMO in #4 Mushy is the best option.
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simon
December 2, 2010, 07:41 AM
It seems to me if Rock was in the yesterdays team we would have win the match.But ultimately in current status i like none of Ash or Rock.IMO in #4 Mushy is the best option.
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ya Mushy did really well previously at 4.
I get the feeling that we get the best of Mushy when he plays the major role but he fails when he has to play a supporting role.
He shld be promoted.

Tiger444
December 2, 2010, 08:03 AM
Well both are pretty out of form right now. That said though I would take rock over ash. His batting has been poor but at least his fielding is better then ash. He commits himself on the field even when he's not scoring runs whereas ash was just not mentally in to it. We gotta stop living in the past guys. Ash is not a hard hitting batsman anymore. He bats even slower then rock now. He just blocks every ball and then has a barin fart to get out. Rock may not be the prettiest batsman to watch but he at least puts a price to his wicket and doesn't throw his wickets away like ash. His overall avg is also a lot better. Rocks rookie season and last year he batted very well. Last year rock averaged a 35 while ash averaged a 24 despite playing mostly minnows. He at least shows some kind of consistency and form whereas ash never is in form. Also he builds a lot of good partnerships with tamim and mainly shakib. With ash its either a match winning innings or a single digit score and for the most part he gets single digit scores. On top of that rock averages a 43 against zimbabwe while ash averages only a 20. Rock even has a high average against the test playing nations then ash. So I would pick rock.
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wiseshah
December 2, 2010, 09:42 AM
Ash is like herpes, never goes away.Let him play only 2020.

capslock
December 2, 2010, 09:51 AM
Combine the two, and you get a "Rash".

wiseshah
December 2, 2010, 10:19 AM
Combine the two, and you get a "Rash".


lol.

sujon
December 2, 2010, 11:59 AM
None. Bring back Nannu and Akram khan in the middle Order. Oh, how I miss them. Nannu was a master of rotating the strike, none of our current crop has that ability. These guys only think 4/6 matters. I wish Nannu and Akram got the chace to play international cricket regularly.

Umar
December 2, 2010, 12:07 PM
If I were to give one good reason for RAKIB...it would be his partnership making ability with Shakib. Ash sucks in making partnership instead he runs them out. That one reason is GOOD ENOUGH for Rakib to come in instead of ASHDAMORONFOOL

dolcevita
December 2, 2010, 12:36 PM
Anyone will do better than ashfool
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_Rafi_
December 2, 2010, 12:50 PM
Rock is no better than Ash in batting but he is far ahead in fielding. And Ash is a bad influence in the team atm so better leave him out from team. Any jodu/modu will be a better choice than him under current circumstances.

Murad
December 2, 2010, 01:22 PM
Naeem Islam. Play him at 4 or 6/7

Move Mushy up to 4

1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Junaed
4. Mushy/Naeem
5. Shakib
6. Naeem/Mushy
7. Riyad (bowled well in the last game)
8. Shuvo
9. Mash
10. Shafiul/Rubel
11. Razzak

Tiger Manc
December 2, 2010, 01:52 PM
Neither! I want Shahriar Nafees!!

Raynman
December 2, 2010, 02:17 PM
This should be our line up:

1. Omar
2. Kayes
3. Saleh
4. Rokibul
5. Bashar
6. Mushy
7. Riyad
+ the bowlers

Fazal
December 2, 2010, 02:38 PM
Hmmm... only two choice? Nim Patar Jucie naki Corollar Juice?
I would rather have Daaber Juice.

Dilscoop
December 2, 2010, 02:45 PM
Ans is Jahurul Islam!

rinathq
December 2, 2010, 02:54 PM
answer is Shariar nafees

roman
December 2, 2010, 03:31 PM
What a joke!!One looser goes out another looser gets in. Whats wrong with these idiotic bunch @ BCB?

wiseshah
December 2, 2010, 03:48 PM
my first choice is jahurul islam. if not i will take rokib over ash.

22Yards
December 2, 2010, 08:04 PM
Everytime i see ashraful i feel like the only big legit problem he has is with shot selection, I dont know if jamie siddons ever talked to him personally and said for the LOVE OF GOD play with a straight bat at least once in his life in a entire match and see the outcome. I'm sure he did but i guess ashraful is more concerned with being overly "cheeky"(which btw ends up making a total fool out of himself) than trying to see himself lift his game up.

Tigers_eye
December 2, 2010, 09:09 PM
Nadim

ehtasum_
December 2, 2010, 09:49 PM
Ashraful over Roq ANYDAY.

ehtasum_
December 2, 2010, 09:51 PM
Because from whatever I've seen, the guy doesn't run out his partners, drop dollies, and get out scoring a single digit score in every match.


Well roq will probably replace Ashraful today. I want to see what he does.

Both of them are stupid. No doubt. But I rather have Ashraful over Roq. I don't know what Roq tries to do blocking every single ball. I rather have Ashraful for the " what if" factor.

ehtasum_
December 2, 2010, 09:53 PM
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Are you serious? Ashraful lost us the game? LOL. Why didn't Mushfiq stay longer

shakibrulz
December 3, 2010, 04:02 AM
Rock>Ash.

simon
December 3, 2010, 04:34 AM
Offcourse Ash is better :-D,I want Ash back:-p nahole khela jomena.:(

FagunerAgun
December 3, 2010, 07:19 PM
none of the should be in the ODI squad. to me.. Ashraful mybe in twenty20s, raqibul in test, thats it. BD need to change things, some players cant play certain format well, so therefor...basicly have differnt teams for TESTs, ODIs AND TWENTY20s..

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well said, specially Ash's run out was unacceptable.

shakirshuvo
December 5, 2010, 12:00 PM
People so easily forget that Ashraful is responsible for almost all the wins for BD before 2010. He's not consistent but he should be given more chances. He has the shots to play good innings, unlike some BD players (eg, Rokibul). Take a lesson from what Pak did with Afridi. Rokibul is good for test matches but with his strike rate BD can easily lose a winning ODI game. Watching him bat makes me wanna beat up someone.

Tiger444
December 5, 2010, 01:03 PM
People so easily forget that Ashraful is responsible for almost all the wins for BD before 2010. He's not consistent but he should be given more chances. He has the shots to play good innings, unlike some BD players (eg, Rokibul). Take a lesson from what Pak did with Afridi. Rokibul is good for test matches but with his strike rate BD can easily lose a winning ODI game. Watching him bat makes me wanna beat up someone.

Your living in thje past man. Ash won games for us a long time ago. When has he won us a match recently? An average of an 18 and sr of a 58 for this year is just inexcusable for a top order batsman. He has the shots but throwing away wickets the way he does is just not acceptable anymore. At least with rock he can protect his wicket and as he showed in the last game can play a lot of shots. What more do you need then? Top order batsmen need to be consistent with their play and not put their team in jeopardy. I agree roqibul is not the most consistent player but he's a hell of a lot more consistent then ash. Roqibuls got a future with bd cricket but I can't say the same for ash. Ash just needs a long break from intl cricket and play with the a team and domestics. If he can prove to consistent for a long period of time then he should be called back. He should really try to be like afridi and become a specialist finisher and bowl better. Since we lack a good hard hitter down the order ash should practice this part of the game.
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real123
December 5, 2010, 01:14 PM
My observation is Ash is the quickest runner in the BD team and none cap cope with him. In many occasions I also thought why he ran other out but later found out that he always made it to the other end but the partner he always had could never.
In this case, Zunayed was very very lazy and sluggish.

I think we are deploying too many slow players or innings builder but we will need stroke-players like Tamim, Shakeeb and Ash or Kapali so that it is a mix. Otherwise, we can not win against big teams like India or South Africa. With our bowling attack, if they score 240+, then it will be tough with giving too many dot-balls.

This is my personal feeling, experts might defer :):D

heres ur answer

nd about dropped catch.. Did any of them score big??
Nd what u'll choose between
15 from 54 ball
6 from 10??

real123
December 5, 2010, 01:16 PM
Bedsides, I think he should not come at no 4, he should come after Shakeeb or at Riyad's place so that he can best use of the batting power play.

My observation is Ash is the quickest runner in the BD team and none cap cope with him. In many occasions I also thought why he ran other out but later found out that he always made it to the other end but the partner he always had could never.
In this case, Zunayed was very very lazy and sluggish.

I think we are deploying too many slow players or innings builder but we will need stroke-players like Tamim, Shakeeb and Ash or Kapali so that it is a mix. Otherwise, we can not win against big teams like India or South Africa. With our bowling attack, if they score 240+, then it will be tough with giving too many dot-balls.

This is my personal feeling, experts might defer :):D

Awla
December 5, 2010, 01:48 PM
Rock>>Ash
Rock is Rock Solid
Ash...Better keep him in ASHTRAY
No hard feelings.......

mhj007
December 5, 2010, 02:04 PM
ashraful disappointed me big time in the 1st odi..an identical dimissal like the asiad final played 2-3 days earlier points out his certain incapability : to learn from mistakes..very ordinary stuff indedd..bt raqibul is opposite iof him..his strike rate is below par and also roqibul cant rotate strike frequently or play innovative shots..so, i woould like to see both of them out of playing xi in the world cup..and bring sn or promote mahmudullah up the order..ashraful may get his chance if he can play the hitter role at 7 and bowl occasional off spin..

Nadim
December 5, 2010, 03:39 PM
Roqibul keen to pay back Sakib

Batsman Roqibul Hasan is determined to pay back his captain’s trust and promised to become a more aggressive player in his bid to cement a place in the unstable number four slot of the Bangladesh team.
Roqibul made a surprise entry in the second ODI, at the cost of experienced Mohammad Ashraful, largely due to a support of his skipper Sakib al Hasan, who against the custom critcised the team selection.
His poor performance in the New Zealand series, in which he scored only 51 runs in four matches at an agonising 40.47, drew a sharp criticism forcing the team management to overlook him for the first game.
The failure of Mohammad Ashraful opened up the door for the right-hander and he grabbed it with both hands by becoming the highest scorer of the second game with his 65 runs.
His strike rate was not so bad as he faced only 79 balls in the innings. He entertained the holiday crowd at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium hitting a six off Prosper Utseya, which also completed his fifty.
His six fours in the innings have also evidenced his stroke-playing ability, something which earned praise from Sakib after the game. It also gave a befitting reply to his critics who often raise questions about his strike rate, which is hovering over sixty in his 47-match ODI career.
‘Actually, I am not worried about my strike rate,’ Roqibul told reporters on Monday. ‘I think I have already improved my strike rate and I am working on it. I am already feeling a change in my play,’ said Roqibul.
Roqibul was confident that Bangladesh would maintain the form of their second match, which they convincingly won by six-wicket to square the series 1-1.
‘Obviously after winning the last match our confidence level is high, we will try to continue this winning habit,’ said Roqibul.
http://www.newagebd.com/2010/dec/06/spt.html

Night_wolf
December 5, 2010, 11:16 PM
^and trying that he got out today

Raynman
December 6, 2010, 12:23 AM
People so easily forget that Ashraful is responsible for almost all the wins for BD before 2010. He's not consistent but he should be given more chances. He has the shots to play good innings, unlike some BD players (eg, Rokibul). Take a lesson from what Pak did with Afridi. Rokibul is good for test matches but with his strike rate BD can easily lose a winning ODI game. Watching him bat makes me wanna beat up someone.

Care to elaborate. In major wins (leaving out the WI whitewash and ZIM and associate wins) here are the match winners. Granted Ash had half centuries in the 2006 SL and 2008 NZ win but his inconsistency is the exact reason why he shouldn't be given more chances when we have capable players who are showing promise of being so.

2005 vs. AUS : Ash mom
2006 vs. SL : Aftab mom
2007 vs. IND : Mash mom
2007 vs. SA : Ash mom
2008 vs. NZ : Junaid mom
2009 vs. SL : Shakib mom

Take into account the other wins vs. WI, ZIM, KEN, IRE, SCO then Ash practically disappears minus the UAE match. Shakib and Nafees become the top dogs.

Our most consistent team efforts (series sweeps of WI, NZ, IRE, SCO, ZIM, KEN) have all come without any major contribution from him.

Sohel
December 6, 2010, 03:09 AM
Neither!

reyme
December 6, 2010, 09:56 AM
When was the last time Ash scored 40+? I forgot. Does he hVe back to back 30+
in last 2 years? Indeed he is tue most experinced in this team of 15
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