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Tanjim
December 4, 2010, 02:25 AM
Masrafe is not performing well. In the other hand we have a very good fast bowler in hand like Rubel.So Masrafe should be rested for a match and Rubel should get a chance.
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Habib
December 4, 2010, 03:43 AM
Rubel has injury & Mash has just come back from injury. Mash deserves a couple more chances if not three. If he can prove himself, then Rubel must come in place of Shafiul. All depend on Mash's performance though.

M.H.Rubel
December 4, 2010, 05:29 AM
It would have been better if it was a pool.i think Rubel should get a chance.
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jisaan
December 4, 2010, 08:05 AM
abaaar jigaaaaaaay!

MarufH
December 4, 2010, 09:04 AM
Masrafe is not performing well. In the other hand we have a very good fast bowler in hand like Rubel.So Masrafe should be rested for a match and Rubel should get a chance.
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Let Mash play one more match at least. I mean we can really use in form Mash... he has proven his worth over and over... especially against India... and who are we playing first game of WC again?

roman
December 4, 2010, 09:52 AM
Let Mash get some match practice and help him to get his form back. If Ash can get so many opprtunities so can Mash. Besides Rubel has injury

al-Sagar
December 4, 2010, 10:01 AM
when a player is out of injury, he should always come in after playing some lower level cricket and gaining match fitness. we did not do it with mash and now he is suffering in the main team.

we should replace him with either rubel (there are some rumours if him being unfit) or nazmul.

kalpurush
December 4, 2010, 11:18 AM
. If Ash can get so many opprtunities so can Mash.
Kopali
Aftab
Nazimuddin
Farhad
Rajin
Nafees

^^^ and you have brought happyness to their life!!! :)


I wish and hope Mash gets to play the whole series and have a chance to prove himself that he is a true fighter.

Odhora
December 4, 2010, 11:22 AM
রুবেল কি অসুস্ত নাকি? শাফিউল কে বাদ দিয়ে রুবেল কে নেওয়া উচিত।

m.islam
December 4, 2010, 11:38 AM
Mashrafee still seems very rusty. Although he is an asset to the national team, he needs to get back his form playing in domestic matches.

Night_wolf
December 4, 2010, 11:44 AM
i think rubel and sofi develops a good partnership...u need to have partnership in bowling just like batting...on basis of this rubel should be chosen..

Razi
December 4, 2010, 11:50 AM
[বাংলা]পেস বোলিং নিয়ে হতাশ ইয়ান পন্ট

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ঢাকা: সুদূর বিলেত থেকে আনা হয়েছে ইয়ান পন্টকে। উদ্দেশ্য বাংলাদেশের পেস আক্রমণের চেহারা খোল-নলচে পাল্টে ফেলা। দু’মাসেরও বেশি হয় মাশরাফিদের নিয়ে কাজ করছেন। কিন্তু উন্নতির লক্ষ্যণ নেই। যরপরনাই পেসারদের ওপর বিরক্ত ইয়ান।

পেসারদের কড়া সমালোচনাও করেছেন ইয়ান,“প্রত্যেকেই নেটে ফাটিয়ে ফেলেন। কিন্তু খেলায় ধার নেই।”

অবশ্য চোট থেকে ফেরায় মাশরাফি কিছুটা ছাড় পেয়েছেন। কোচের দৃষ্টিতে প্রথম ম্যাচে সুবিধা করতে না পারলেও তুলনামূলক দ্বিতীয় ম্যাচে ভালো বল করেছেন সাবেক অধিনায়ক। আশার কথাও শোনান কোচ,“মাশরাফি বাংলাদেশের সেরা পেসার। আশা করি খুব শিগগিরই সে নিজেকে ফিরে পাবে।”

জিম্বাবুয়ের বিপক্ষে ছন্দ রেখে বোলিং হয়নি। ফলে অনায়াসে খেলছে প্রতিপক্ষ ব্যাটসম্যানরা। ইয়ানের মতে,“পেস বোলিংয়ে ছন্দ এবং সময়ের সমন্বয় গুরুত্বপূর্ণ। এর ব্যতিক্রম হলে আত্মবিশ্বাস হারাবে। নেটে দুই হাজার বার বোলিং করে কেউ বলতে পারে না মূল উইকেট ভালো করবে।”

শুধু পেসারদের নয়, বোলিং কোচ হিসেবে এখন পরিচয় দিতে স্বচ্ছন্দ বোধ করেন ইয়ান। বিশেষ করে স্পিনারদের প্রশংসায় পঞ্চমুখ এই ইংলিশ কোচ,“স্পিনাররা দারুণ করছে। পৃথিবীর কোন দলে এক সঙ্গে তিনজন বাঁহাতি বোলার খেলেনি। যাদের প্রত্যেকেই বিশ্বমানের। স্পিনারদের পারফরমেন্সে আমি খুশি। কারণ আমি বোলিং কোচ।”

বোলিং কোচের ভাষায় সাকিব আল হাসান অনেক বড় মাপের অধিনায়ক। বিশেষ করে বোলিংয়ে পরিবর্তন দেখে খুশি,“ প্রয়োজন মুহূর্তে কী সুন্দর বোলিংয়ে পরিবর্তন আনে সাকিব। সে খুবই মেধাবি একজন অধিনায়ক।”

সাবেক অধিনায়ক মাশরাফিও স্পিনারদের প্রশংসা করেছেন। তবে পেস বিভাগ নিয়ে তার মধ্যেও কিছুটা হতাশা কাজ করছে,“ বোলিংয়ের সুযোগই পাচ্ছি না। মাত্র কয়েক ওভার করে বল করার সুযোহ পেয়েছি। চোট থেকে ফেরায় সবকিছু আগের মতো হচ্ছে না। একটু সময় লাগবে। অনেকগুলো ম্যাচ খেলার দরকার ছিলো। তা সম্ভব হয়নি। এখান থেকেই আমাকে ফিরতে হবে।”

খেলার পরের দিন বলে ঐচ্ছিক অনুশীলন হয়েছে। তবুও চার পেসারকে নিয়ে আলাদা কাজ করেছেন বোলিং কোচ। সাকিব আর হাসান মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামে এসেছেন জিন্স টি-শার্ট পড়ে। অনুশীলনের প্রশ্নই আসে না। তামিম ইকবাল সেন্ট্রাল উইকেট মজা করে ব্যাটিং প্র্যাকটিস করেন। গ্রাউন্স ম্যানদের বোলিংয়ে চার-ছক্কা হাঁকিয়েছেন। অবশ্য ক্যাচ আউট হলে বোলার এবং ফিল্ডারকে পাঁচশত করে টাকা দেবেন তামিম নিজেই।

এছাড়া আগের ম্যাচের সর্বোচ্চ ৬৫ রান করা রকিবুল হাসান, মুশফিকুর রহিমও অনুশীলন করেছন। প্রধান কোচ জেমি সিডন্স ছিলেন তাদের পাশে।[/বাংলা]

Roni_uk
December 4, 2010, 11:55 AM
I bet Tanjim is Rubel in disguise, so YES :)

wiseshah
December 4, 2010, 11:57 AM
after 3rd match--- i want both najmul and rubel play last 2 matches. we should rest shafiul and mash

shuziburo
December 4, 2010, 12:49 PM
If Mash does not play well in the 3rd ODI and Rubel is fit, Rubel should play. If the selectors want to give Mash all 5 ODI to get back to form, Rubel can come in place of Shafiul.

Haru-party
December 4, 2010, 12:51 PM
after 3rd match--- i want both najmul and rubel play last 2 matches. we should rest shafiul and mash

good idea

Eshen
December 4, 2010, 12:57 PM
I strongly feel so. Right now we are too dependent on Shakib and Razzak to take wickets. What if on a day those to can't deliver their bests? What if on a day Taylor and Taibu find their rhythm against spinners?

simon
December 4, 2010, 01:52 PM
so how fit is Rubel now?i didnt even know he was unfit.

AsifTheManRahman
December 4, 2010, 01:54 PM
Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul should all play. Mashrafe shouldn't.

Habib
December 4, 2010, 02:00 PM
Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul should all play. Mashrafe shouldn't.

Nazmul shouldn't play either. His pace is sloow & even Afghan batsmen found it dudh vaat.

AsifTheManRahman
December 4, 2010, 02:02 PM
Nazmul shouldn't play either. His pace is sloow & even Afghan batsmen found it dudh vaat.
Nazmul is actually a pretty good bowler in home conditions. If he's picked, he should only be picked at home. He's a pretty good death over bowler too.

We always seem to play an extra batsman/all rounder. It's about time the people in the top order pull their pants up so that we can have more bowling options.

Ajfar
December 4, 2010, 02:12 PM
Nazmul shouldn't play either. His pace is sloow & even Afghan batsmen found it dudh vaat.

miya bhai gulli maren slow, speed diya amra ki korum. beshi jore ball korte giya jodi ek ek jon ek bar off stumper dosh hath baire ar arekbar leg stump dosh hath baire ball kore taile ar ki kora.

rinathq
December 4, 2010, 08:19 PM
I would love to see Rubel given some chances. But Mash wasnt given enough chances yet. He bowled 6 overs at first ODI and 3 at 2nd. 9 Overs of opening bowling is not enough to come to a conclusion. Nor its enough for Mash to try his techniques and fix his problems. He has not been unsuccessful. Agreed. However, this wicket isnt really a pace friendly wicket is it? Also Mash only bowled at opening overs. Who knows? he could have been better at a later point in the game....Plus there hasnt been a huge difference between Shafi and Mash in the last 3 matches........ except 1 wicket which was thrown away.
Although seeing how pace attack isnt crucial here, if i were the coach, i would switch these 3 pacers around to give all 3 of them some match practice.

Also Mash had some pretty good deliveries. If he can produce those more consistently than he can be very effective. Also, if u look at his deliveries.... he is getting the swing, his pace isnt bad, his length is good too..... if he can just release those legside deliveries right outside the off stump........ the batsman has nowhere to go :)

Tigers_eye
December 4, 2010, 08:29 PM
Mashrafe is a great bowler in BD context. Even with 4 knee operations. However, he lacks match practice. To get in to a rythem he has to play/bowl longer spells. It is just that International matches can not be considered as practice any more. With the way pitches and captain is playing him he should sit out immediately. I would hope he gets his groove on in the domestic tournaments. 2/3 matches there will do him a world of good. So, yes, he needs to sit out and give Rubel his rightful place for now.

cricket_pagol
December 5, 2010, 12:36 AM
I think mashrafee deserves more opportunity, and rubel deserves match practice before the world cup.

Our three pacers need to be rotated so that everybody gets equal opportunity.

jisaan
December 5, 2010, 01:30 AM
Mash would be much better should he be able to stop those leg-stump deliveries.
it may be a matter of confidence.
So it's better for him to get back to domestic cricket, gain some confidence and come back hard in the World Cup.

ATM, we may be better off playing Rubel & trying Nazmul in a few games.
it's hard to keep your MoM of the last major win out for so many matches. :((He can replace shafiul, too)
Shafiul's economy rate is still a big concern for me....:mad:

beshideshi
December 5, 2010, 02:08 AM
Its quite clear that Mashrafe is part of our WC plan, and this series is the 'warm up' series for world cup, so it only makes sense if we are trying to sharpen one of our main weapon. If he is bound to be in the XI in WC, then we should give him as many games as possible and let him find himself.

That being said, If I were the selector, I would close my eyes and pick Shafi and Rubel.

Dilscoop
December 5, 2010, 02:32 AM
'I need time to get my rhythm back' - Mortaza (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-zimbabwe-2010/content/current/story/490483.html)

Give him a break. Plus we can afford to play around with him vs the Zims. But even vs the Zims he is not feeling very confident

I am happy as long as he comes back hard and goes well in WC.

napoleonIV
December 5, 2010, 07:02 AM
We need him for Sehwag :).

Rifat
December 5, 2010, 07:05 AM
Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul should all play. Mashrafe shouldn't.

:up:

although if Rubel is not 100% fit, then I wouldn't consider risking an injury. I would wait for his 100% recovery.

Rubel should be one of our secret weapons for the world cup ;)

view360
December 5, 2010, 07:32 AM
Rubel might come in for Shafi for the 3rd ODI just to show the world how good these two are in sharp contrast to Mash. Then Mash must perform in the 3rd ODI.

Sohel
December 5, 2010, 07:44 AM
Yes. The national team, no matter who happens to be the opposition or what Sid has to say about this, is no place for anyone to get his "form", "match fitness" and "rhythm" back. Then again, I'm actually FROM this country and care about such things.

crickwizard
December 5, 2010, 07:46 AM
Bangladesh should bat first if win the toss in 3rd ODI, score a hefty 275 and give Mash a full chance to bowl 10 overs. Only bowling 9 overs in 2 matches doesn't get an injured bowler back anywhere in the world. Be patient, even Ian Pont says Mash is the best bowler in BD side...so what gets?

simon
December 5, 2010, 07:50 AM
let's not be so harsh on Mash,let himm play all matches in this series & if Rubel is 100% fit let him replce Shafi.As simple as that.

mij
December 5, 2010, 08:04 AM
Bangladesh should bat first if win the toss in 3rd ODI, score a hefty 275 and give Mash a full chance to bowl 10 overs. Only bowling 9 overs in 2 matches doesn't get an injured bowler back anywhere in the world. Be patient, even Ian Pont says Mash is the best bowler in BD side...so what gets?

What that will do? He didn't look fit to bowl even last 9 overs.

Haru-party
December 5, 2010, 08:10 AM
We need him for Sehwag :).

yes :D

Haru-party
December 5, 2010, 08:11 AM
shobai mile ekta sunglass invent kori jetate mash shob batsmanre shewag dekhbe...bes tarpor dekhen ki khel shuru hoy :D

safa
December 5, 2010, 08:28 AM
Assalamu walaikum brothers
Play with 3 pacers for the 3rd match mortaza,shafiul,rubel.The spin attack is very good lets give oppurtunity for the pacers to perform their skills and show their talents.The WC is nearing,this would be a good preparation for them to attack.

godzilla
December 5, 2010, 08:30 AM
Inform Mash > inform Rubel + Saiful + rest of the fast bowling deparment we have in our arsenal ... If bringing the old Mash back means giving him all the matches in the Zim series then I say we do it ... Either way we got our spinners to win the matches for us so Mash needs all the practice before the WC.

M.H.Rubel
December 5, 2010, 08:32 AM
So Ian Pont is giving full support to Mash and he thinks the he needs time to come back.Pont also believes that he ll come back.I also think Mash will come back.But now question is will it be wise to give chance in next match?
I never liked Rubel as a bowler.But it seems that this guy is improving in recent times.As the 3rd ODI is very important for us for series win i am an favour of Rubel in place of Mash.But Mash should get atleast another match in this series.But i have a feeling that our selectors may take another batsman come bowler(Riyad) is place of Mash to overcome vulnarable batting lineup.
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Equinox
December 5, 2010, 08:53 AM
Mash should play all the games. There are no other matches going on where he can regain his form. And Pont, who I'd think knows fast bowling a tiny bit better than us, says Mash is still one of our better fast bowlers. It is not an emotional decision at all rather it's a logical one. If giving Mash a few games means than we can have three fit, in-form pacers for the World Cup then by all means Mash should play.

And I also think for the last two games we should play three pacers. We have to get out of our comfort zone.

Green Tea
December 5, 2010, 09:17 AM
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lamisa
December 5, 2010, 09:41 AM
well come to think of it from rubel's point of view,or becharar ki dosh chilo?y did he have to be drooped after being the MOM in the last match he played?

rinathq
December 5, 2010, 11:42 AM
They should play 3 pacers after we win the series. This way the pacers gets chance and we take no risk.
Mash won't be dropped.... They will play him all 5 ODIs. It is my guess, that pint will tell Sakib to give mash a second spell, starting spells are always confusing.
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simon
December 5, 2010, 01:52 PM
So according to Banglavision news Mash might be replaced by Rubel,not confirmed but....
I wld prefer Rubel rplce Shafi.

crickwizard
December 6, 2010, 03:18 AM
What that will do? He didn't look fit to bowl even last 9 overs.

hopefully impatient dudes got the answer today what he could do? Be patient, that is the key in cricket (doesnt have to be as much with Ash though)

Zunaid
December 6, 2010, 03:18 AM
Mash is coming back fast

al Furqaan
December 6, 2010, 05:48 AM
well come to think of it from rubel's point of view,or becharar ki dosh chilo?y did he have to be drooped after being the MOM in the last match he played?

he was injured with back spasms...

Nadim
December 6, 2010, 06:20 AM
I would like to bring in Rubel in place of shuvo.

He needs few games before WC

nahaz
December 6, 2010, 06:49 AM
They should play 3 pacers after we win the series. This way the pacers gets chance and we take no risk.
Mash won't be dropped.... They will play him all 5 ODIs. It is my guess, that pint will tell Sakib to give mash a second spell, starting spells are always confusing.

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Take out Shuvo and put in Rubel for the last two games...Naeem seems to be finding form with the bat so he stays...Shafi has hit form but needs to keep going.

Honestly, if we go to the World Cup unable to bowl 30 overs of pace without expecting to get walloped, we cannot make it to the second round. Spin only is very one-dimensional. And don't forget, our pacers are all injury-prone, so all three pacers should have some match practice and confidence under their belt before the World Cup (and even their back-up(Nazmul?) in the warm-up just b4 WC)

Mashrafee also mentioned that we need to stop relying so heavily on spinners.

lamisa
December 6, 2010, 09:24 AM
yea,i say we play with the safiul,rubel,mash trio in the last match if we go out and win the next one...shuvo or naeem can get the axe,preferably shuvo since naeem has outshone him in the batting department