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Isam
December 29, 2010, 12:41 AM
hey guys

check out my year review of Bangladesh on CRICINFO (done before the Zimbabwe series)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/review2010/content/story/493320.html

Tigers_eye
December 29, 2010, 01:27 AM
Very nice read!! Keep up the excellent work.

Rizvi
December 29, 2010, 01:30 AM
^Ditto
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Night_wolf
December 29, 2010, 01:54 AM
its said in the article that BD is scheduled to tour Westindies in 2011..but we toured them in 2009..shouldn't they come and tour us this time around?

Murad
December 29, 2010, 01:59 AM
Nice article, Isam bhai. Its really nice to see articles in CI written by Bangladeshis.

its said in the article that BD is scheduled to tour Westindies in 2011..but we toured them in 2009..shouldn't they come and tour us this time around?

Yes thats a mistake. We are hosting them this time.

Zeeshan
December 29, 2010, 02:07 AM
I am probably the only odd man out but I found it textbook, almost an encyclopedia entry and very cut and dried. I am not saying all articles should be full off juice and fluffy but what's the point of writing if a Turing machine can manufacture a piece given initial seeds?

Razi's Ashraful pic on the other hand really made my day. I'd much rather read a "human" piece than an arbitrary permutation of some given formal strings on a refrigerator.

And no, I am not hating on you.

Ajfar
December 29, 2010, 02:09 AM
Nice read Isam bhai. Keep up the good work.

Nocturnal
December 29, 2010, 03:43 AM
Thanks for sharing Isam. Good read.

billah
December 29, 2010, 04:00 AM
I am probably the only odd man out but I found it textbook, almost an encyclopedia entry and very cut and dried. I am not saying all articles should be full off juice and fluffy but what's the point of writing if a Turing machine can manufacture a piece given initial seeds?

Razi's Ashraful pic on the other hand really made my day. I'd much rather read a "human" piece than an arbitrary permutation of some given formal strings on a refrigerator.

And no, I am not hating on you.

Correct.

What good is it without nuggets like "arbitrary permutation of some given formal strings on a refrigerator" eh?:saint:

simon
December 29, 2010, 04:06 AM
humm,bhalo laglo,thanks Isam bhai.:)

Rabz
December 29, 2010, 04:33 AM
Nice read Isam.
Great to see you making your way to cricinfo.
Keep up the good work.

May be the year end stats could be added.
Sakib became the top wicket taker of the year, I guess that should be mentioned.
Tamim's test batting average for the year.
3 of the top 5 ODI wicket takers are Bangladeshis.
Razzak's hattrick ( you wrote the article before, I know).

I feel like those achievements should be mentioned.

shakibrulz
December 29, 2010, 04:42 AM
Whatever Rabz said.

Ashfaq
December 29, 2010, 05:36 AM
I am probably the only odd man out but I found it textbook, almost an encyclopedia entry and very cut and dried. I am not saying all articles should be full off juice and fluffy but what's the point of writing if a Turing machine can manufacture a piece given initial seeds?

Razi's Ashraful pic on the other hand really made my day. I'd much rather read a "human" piece than an arbitrary permutation of some given formal strings on a refrigerator.

And no, I am not hating on you.

If I'm not wrong, Mr. Isam is a reporter. Their motto is to state the facts as cleanly as possible, draw no conclusion, spread no speculation.
From that perspective, this report/ review quickly tells us everything that happened this year in Bangladesh Cricket.

If you want a juicier one, I'd suggest you yourself produce it. There are few more suitable for the job than you. Besides, it's been a while since you did any writing. If you wrote a fluff piece on 2010 in BD cricket, I'm sure there are many interested.

Zeeshan
December 29, 2010, 05:37 AM
If I'm not wrong, Mr. Isam is a reporter. Their motto is to state the facts as cleanly as possible, draw no conclusion, spread no speculation.
From that perspective, this report/ review quickly tells us everything that happened this year in Bangladesh Cricket.

If you want a juicier one, I'd suggest you yourself produce it. There are few more suitable for the job than you. Besides, it's been a while since you did any writing. If you wrote a fluff piece on 2010 in BD cricket, I'm sure there are many interested.

But he is not a robot, is he?

Ashfaq
December 29, 2010, 05:40 AM
^^ Sometimes they have to be.

simon
December 29, 2010, 06:13 AM
Nice read Isam.
Great to see you making your way to cricinfo.
Keep up the good work.

May be the year end stats could be added.
Sakib became the top wicket taker of the year, I guess that should be mentioned.
Tamim's test batting average for the year.
3 of the top 5 ODI wicket takers are Bangladeshis.
Razzak's hattrick ( you wrote the article before, I know).

I feel like those achievements should be mentioned.

true,these achievements show our improvement.

riankhan
December 29, 2010, 06:15 AM
Thanks for the article. Are we getting WC previews soon?

shuziburo
December 29, 2010, 07:25 AM
Nice article. I don't think it was intended to be juicy. That might be coming. Right?

lamisa
December 29, 2010, 07:44 AM
great article,very well written!me likes :)

shakibrulz
December 29, 2010, 08:14 AM
But he is not a robot, is he?
Oh come on, lets stop being cynical, shall we? It's a fine article imo.

Zeeshan
December 29, 2010, 08:25 AM
Oh come on, lets stop being cynical, shall we? It's a fine article imo.

I expressed my opinion that's all. I can do well without your or anyone forcing me to like it.

And as for Ashfaq -who has elevated the author to "Mister" out of great devotion -albeit 'cultural' he'd justify--pointing out that a journalist's main objective should be to deliver facts straight and simple, well in that case, why not do away with the namesake of the author under the article heading and just write "staff reporter"? I mean after all we are only interested to hear the facts and not someone who comes hear posts some thread for self-promotion without partaking in any discussion.

Well excuse me if I sound like the bad guy here.

Ashfaq
December 29, 2010, 09:53 AM
Zee, your opinion being different than others doesn't make you a bad or good guy. If opinions didn't vary, we'd still be worshiping a flat earth around which the sun revolves.

I'm not justifying the authors creation, I'm just telling you why I think he wrote it that way.

The point I'm trying to make is that there are many way of looking at something. Some of them you won't like. So why don't you offer your own POV ?

I don't think Mr. Isam is a paid reporter of cricinfo. So staff reporter doesn't apply.

MarufH
December 29, 2010, 11:53 AM
Great Article Isam bhai...

good points made by Rabz bhai.. as always.

Isam
December 29, 2010, 01:14 PM
I expressed my opinion that's all. I can do well without your or anyone forcing me to like it.

And as for Ashfaq -who has elevated the author to "Mister" out of great devotion -albeit 'cultural' he'd justify--pointing out that a journalist's main objective should be to deliver facts straight and simple, well in that case, why not do away with the namesake of the author under the article heading and just write "staff reporter"? I mean after all we are only interested to hear the facts and not someone who comes hear posts some thread for self-promotion without partaking in any discussion.

Well excuse me if I sound like the bad guy here.

Ashfaq and Zeeshan

I should have responded earlier, but was too busy at the office. Year ending days, really crazy.

Anyways, it is definitely not an act of self-promotion and why I put my article here is to see the broader perspective. Honestly, and I say it from 10 years of mostly playing cricket in Bangladesh and also the reporting bit, nowhere else do people talk, discuss and care so much about Bangladesh cricket. This is a great place to get the pulse of the fans, and trust me, it is not the Bangladesh Cricket Board!

About the piece, there is a format I have to follow (given by those guys) and I thought it'd be best to go right to the point. Yes, I agree that a reporter's duty is to state the facts but I like to veer away from it at most times, just to make sure my articles is easy to read and makes sense.

A few days from now the Daily Star's year-ending specials will come out (one of the main newspaper and the editorial section) and there I wrote a piece on the three stars of this year. Do read it and let me know what you think of it. I hope it will please both you guys.

Zeeshan
December 29, 2010, 03:42 PM
Ashfaq and Zeeshan

I should have responded earlier, but was too busy at the office. Year ending days, really crazy.

Anyways, it is definitely not an act of self-promotion and why I put my article here is to see the broader perspective. Honestly, and I say it from 10 years of mostly playing cricket in Bangladesh and also the reporting bit, nowhere else do people talk, discuss and care so much about Bangladesh cricket. This is a great place to get the pulse of the fans, and trust me, it is not the Bangladesh Cricket Board!

About the piece, there is a format I have to follow (given by those guys) and I thought it'd be best to go right to the point. Yes, I agree that a reporter's duty is to state the facts but I like to veer away from it at most times, just to make sure my articles is easy to read and makes sense.

A few days from now the Daily Star's year-ending specials will come out (one of the main newspaper and the editorial section) and there I wrote a piece on the three stars of this year. Do read it and let me know what you think of it. I hope it will please both you guys.

Isam bhai thanks for the response and explanation. Much appreciated. :)

kalpurush
December 29, 2010, 04:11 PM
Ashfaq and Zeeshan

I should have responded earlier, but was too busy at the office. Year ending days, really crazy.

Anyways, it is definitely not an act of self-promotion and why I put my article here is to see the broader perspective. Honestly, and I say it from 10 years of mostly playing cricket in Bangladesh and also the reporting bit, nowhere else do people talk, discuss and care so much about Bangladesh cricket. This is a great place to get the pulse of the fans, and trust me, it is not the Bangladesh Cricket Board!

About the piece, there is a format I have to follow (given by those guys) and I thought it'd be best to go right to the point. Yes, I agree that a reporter's duty is to state the facts but I like to veer away from it at most times, just to make sure my articles is easy to read and makes sense.

A few days from now the Daily Star's year-ending specials will come out (one of the main newspaper and the editorial section) and there I wrote a piece on the three stars of this year. Do read it and let me know what you think of it. I hope it will please both you guys.

Isam bhai thanks for the response and explanation. Much appreciated. :)
Thank you all of the above^^^
Isam bhai - nice read, might not the like of Zee wanted, will be waiting for that one... :)

Kabir
December 29, 2010, 05:34 PM
About Shafiul - couldn't agree more. This guy is awesome, and will remain the same way if he continues like this.

max410
December 29, 2010, 11:02 PM
we have Tamim , SHakib , Razzak who are considered world class the others a re coming up SOON except as n fool he aint no world class he is khet class FLUKE

Baundule
December 30, 2010, 06:14 AM
Good article.

However, the organization of those info could be better. For example, I struggled to parse which info is related to which form of cricket. The info about Shakib's playing in the county cricket (is he the first one? or was it Ash?) is duplicated. I would also love to see some statistics and some comparison with past years that could show if we are improving or going backwards.

IMO, another (or, related to the organization) shortcoming of the article is it is not focused. Usually people do not read the full article at the first try. They look for the key information and then decide whether to read the full article or not. For this article one must read the complete piece to get it.

beshideshi
December 30, 2010, 06:36 AM
Good article and a very nice round up overall. But I would have to say[as someone already pointed out] the article feels less 'human' and more 'robotic'. A little more life could not have hurt, but no way am I saying it's a bad article. Great work Isam bhai.

BANFAN
January 3, 2011, 06:45 PM
Great review

Nafis 1718
January 4, 2011, 01:15 AM
Nice article

abu2abu
January 4, 2011, 05:20 AM
Good piece bhai. An informative read...

shuziburo
January 5, 2011, 01:57 PM
Good read, but I have come to expect great read from you.