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amar11432
January 2, 2011, 08:19 PM
50 days to go: India’s unknown enemy is UDRS



India’s reluctance to use the umpiring review system is a well-known and well documented fact. What is equally well known is the proposed big use of UDRS in the upcoming mega event and India, we all know certainly do not start as favourites in that department. If anything, India are expected to severely struggle using the referral system since they are not trained to do so. Recently, many were talking about the need to have a toss coach and/or to send someone other than Dhoni to the middle before the spin of the coin. Agreed toss is about the rub of the green of which UDRS is not about and we have seen that in recent days.

The Ashes was a classic example. Both Australia and England certainly looked well versed with the usage of UDRS. Alastair Cook was a great example in the MCG test. When field umpire Aleem Dar gave him out, he wasted not even a single second in signalling for a TV referral. This was because Cook was 100% sure he had got an inside edge to the ball. Even in the Durban test, South Africans were bitterly disappointed at not being able to use the UDRS since the dismissals of AB de Villiers and Mark Boucher certainly looked doubtful and would have been reversed if the TV was used.

The point here is not whether UDRS is good or not. It is about learning something which you have to follow whether you like it or not. This is like getting a child admitted to a school. You will face resistance from the kid on the first couple of days but that doesn’t mean you stop the admission. The World Cup is round the corner and the ICC has made it clear that the UDRS will be used.

This certainly leaves India in a tight spot since none of the players actually know how to use it effectively. It is one thing to use a referral system and something else to use it to one’s advantage. India had an extremely bitter pill to swallow the only time they used it. That was during India’s tour of Sri Lanka in 2008. India’s success rate with UDRS in that tour was less than 10% while Sri Lanka enjoyed a success rate of nearly 70%. We all know the outcome of the series. It was plain and simple. India just didn’t know how to use the UDRS.

http://sports.in.msn.com/cricket/2011CricketWorldCup/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4753850

amar11432
January 2, 2011, 08:20 PM
Hope we use UDRS to our advantage. :up:

ashraful1
January 2, 2011, 08:40 PM
^ Indians all ways get lucky and the better decisions from the umpire like the south Africa test so if this udrs system comes into play for the world cup we can change these lucky decisions, that's the idea n let's be honest we do get hard done by sometimes.
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shakibrulz
January 3, 2011, 12:59 AM
Hope we use UDRS to our advantage. :up:
No UDRS in group stage matches, I think. And when don't have much experience with UDRS either anyways.

lamisa
January 3, 2011, 07:24 AM
udrs should be used!i am sick and tired of decisions going against us all the timE!

BANFAN
January 3, 2011, 06:32 PM
If you talking about the use of UDRS, we are as much weak as the Indians in it. Its simple, if you are sure / have doubt that the decision was wrong, challenge it.

Even we dont know the best use of it, yet it will benefit us, atleast when Ashoka gives LBW after a big bat and pad, the batsman should instantly know, that it was bat first or pad first. it is a bit difficult to challenge LBW decisions when we are bowling, but I think the Wk is the best person to see if the ball pitched in line, or not. So it doesnt need much to be able to use UDRS to ones' advantage.

Any way, I want UDRS. I won't mind genuinely losing to a better team, it hurts when we lose due to Ashoka/Moni isk decisions.

jisaan
January 4, 2011, 01:19 AM
If you talking about the use of UDRS, we are as much weak as the Indians in it. Its simple, if you are sure / have doubt that the decision was wrong, challenge it.

Even we dont know the best use of it, yet it will benefit us, atleast when Ashoka gives LBW after a big bat and pad, the batsman should instantly know, that it was bat first or pad first. it is a bit difficult to challenge LBW decisions when we are bowling, but I think the Wk is the best person to see if the ball pitched in line, or not. So it doesnt need much to be able to use UDRS to ones' advantage.

Any way, I want UDRS. I won't mind genuinely losing to a better team, it hurts when we lose due to Ashoka/Moni isk decisions.

Well said... i am with you!

lamisa
January 4, 2011, 07:39 AM
^^^me 2!

Kabir
January 4, 2011, 09:58 AM
If you talking about the use of UDRS, we are as much weak as the Indians in it. Its simple, if you are sure / have doubt that the decision was wrong, challenge it.

Errrr...the type of umpiring blunders that we have to face is so ridiculous that even the local kauwas can refer them. Thick inside edges leading to the pad are given out...by those Ashoka and Moni morons. These don't happen to Eendia, and that makes it all that difficult for them. I'm fine with umpiring mistakes if they are marginal (ie. the ones Eendia has to face). I'm not fine with major blunders. So no - it'll be better for us to have the UDRS than them.

cricket_king
January 4, 2011, 05:31 PM
Errrr...the type of umpiring blunders that we have to face is so ridiculous that even the local kauwas can refer them. Thick inside edges leading to the pad are given out...by those Ashoka and Moni morons. These don't happen to Eendia, and that makes it all that difficult for them. I'm fine with umpiring mistakes if they are marginal (ie. the ones Eendia has to face). I'm not fine with major blunders. So no - it'll be better for us to have the UDRS than them.

Agreed. I can't believe some people have jumped the Indian bandwagon of not having the UDRS in play. Seriously, have you guys seen some of the decisions against us? A good few were just ridiculous. Doesn't matter how inexperienced we are with the system, I'm sure we'll have the common sense to refer the blunders Kabir bhai has been talking about.

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
January 4, 2011, 06:29 PM
But the question is do Bangladeshi players know the use of UDRS well enough?!

mij
January 4, 2011, 06:48 PM
But the question is do Bangladeshi players know the use of UDRS well enough?!

We better just start leaning how make use of it before World cup.

reyme
January 4, 2011, 07:06 PM
Sooner we start using UDRS, better it is for us.

kalpurush
January 4, 2011, 11:50 PM
India 1/2 dead (:sorry:) before the match even starts on February 19th!!!

Jadukor
January 5, 2011, 12:09 AM
UDRS will be a blessing for us... especially against Anamul Huq Mony, Ashokha and co...
Ashes test is a prime example of how UDRS can help sort out correct decisions... when technology is there for the taking why not use it

harrypotte
January 5, 2011, 04:51 AM
UDRS will be a blessing for us... especially against Anamul Huq Mony, Ashokha and co...
Ashes test is a prime example of how UDRS can help sort out correct decisions... when technology is there for the taking why not use it

absolutely right...most of the time umpiring is killing us.UDRS is blessing for us if we can use it properly...though you mentioned already but i have to say again..this ASHES series have proven UDRS can easily be the turning point of a match...

lamisa
January 5, 2011, 09:42 AM
some people argue that using UDRS is disrespectful for the umpires on the field....(like i give a damn about moni or ashoka or shaikots' ijjots!)

Kabir
January 5, 2011, 09:54 AM
Doesn't matter how inexperienced we are with the system, I'm sure we'll have the common sense to refer the blunders Kabir bhai has been talking about.

Although I do think that some of our top order players won't be able to use it properly, players like Tamim and Sakib are going to use it to their advantage. I hope one of these two are out in the middle for most of the game to be able to assist the other end.

shuziburo
January 5, 2011, 01:58 PM
Hope we use UDRS to our advantage. :up:

But, we don't have experience in using it either.

amar11432
January 5, 2011, 07:44 PM
But, we don't have experience in using it either.

Learniing about USDS is not rocket science, there is still time to learn about it b4 WC'11. As a weaker team, we have always been in the wrong side of an umpire decision.

Night_wolf
January 6, 2011, 05:18 AM
i am sick and tired of decisions going against us all the timE!

i am sick and tired of decisions going for india all the timE!

harrypotte
January 6, 2011, 05:33 AM
i am sick and tired of decisions going for india all the timE!

same here..:-))
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Baundule
January 6, 2011, 07:37 AM
UDRS also favors the on-field umpires. And it's usage is not usually mechanical, it still allows to go with umpiring biasness.

Against weaker teams it does not help much as we get the umpiring advantage anyway. And against teams like India, WI or England we have to use it properly. Everything depends on the captain and Shakib is intelligent.

Night_wolf
January 6, 2011, 10:20 AM
UDRS also favors the on-field umpires. And it's usage is not usually mechanical, it still allows to go with umpiring biasness.

Against weaker teams it does not help much as we get the umpiring advantage anyway. And against teams like India, WI or England we have to use it properly. Everything depends on the captain and Shakib is intelligent.

this settles our argument with UDRS

shuziburo
January 6, 2011, 12:56 PM
i am sick and tired of decisions going for india all the timE!

India is a superpower and BCCI has the money/financial backing. Get used to it! Unless off course, we can become a superpower.

lamisa
January 7, 2011, 06:25 AM
^^^we don't have that much mone and never will!look at that country's size!unless we are floating on oil or gold.....

Night_wolf
January 7, 2011, 07:01 AM
^^^we don't have that much mone and never will!look at that country's size!unless we are floating on oil or gold.....

we r floating on gas..and we have sat rajar dhon beneath the bay of Bengal(which india and barma is trying to get hold of)..unfortunately we can not utilize any of this...why?..u know the ans..