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al-Sagar
January 7, 2011, 10:40 AM
Bangladesh have reduced their preliminary 30-man squad for the World Cup to 23. Nazimuddin, Shamsur Rahman, Sahagir Hossain, Mithun Ali, Nasir Hossain, Shuvogoto Chowdhury and Enamul Haque Jr are the players who have been left out. The remaining 23 players will be of a preparatory camp that begins on January 9 at the Sher-e-Bangla stadium in Mirpur.

All 14 teams participating in the tournament have to announce their final fifteen before January 19.

Preliminary Squad: Shakib Al Hasan, Mashrafe Mortaza, Tamim Iqbal, Mohammad Ashraful, Imrul Kayes, Junaid Siddique, Roqibul Hassan, Mushfiqur Rahim, Mahmudullah, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Rubel Hossain, Shafiul Islam, Abdur Razzak, Suhrawadi Shuvo, Shahriar Nafees, Jahirul Islam, Syed Rasel, Shahadat Hossain, Mahbubul Alam, Dolar Mahmud, Shabbir Rahman, Alok Kapali.


so 12 days to go and then we will have the final squad for the world cup.

rinathq
January 7, 2011, 11:24 AM
Good selection i guess... None of Nazimuddin, Sahmsur, Sahgir, Mithun, Nasir, Shuvogoto have experience to be considered for the WC squad. And we dont need enamul as our squads have the sufficient number of spinners.
Glad to see Shabbir and Alok made it though. Shabbir could be a surprise attack for WC and Alok Kapali could be our PP solution. However, chances of them making the final 15.
My 15,
Tamim, Imrul, Junayed, Sakib, Nafees, Mushfiq, Naeem, Riaydh, Razzaq, Shafiul, Rubel, Roqibul, Jahirul, Alok/Shabbir, Nazmul/ Mashrafee (Mash if he is fit)

ahms
January 7, 2011, 11:25 AM
Dear Players of Bangladesh,

This World Cup is time to consolidate our ability in the world. The World will be watching how much we are capable in our own turf. Goal of the team should be solid (as stone) batting from top to middle order, effective (as accurate line & length) bowling and tight (as wall) fielding. A game plan (methodical approach) for 100 overs. Execute those plan with 120% effort. Each player should stick to the team plan. Inshallah we will shine in every game.

wiseshah
January 7, 2011, 11:37 AM
Glad to see sabbir and alok in top 23

very soon-- mahbubul, dollar, rasel, shahadat, ashraful will be out

rinathq
January 7, 2011, 11:38 AM
^^^
I want Ash out too, but there is a BIG chance he will make the XI

wiseshah
January 7, 2011, 11:39 AM
All i want is sabbir in the team, he can replace shuvo, naeem, ash, rokib, jahirul any one

roman
January 7, 2011, 11:55 AM
Good to see Shabbir is still in the race. I hope he makes it into the XV. Alok/Ash (if selected) should be considered as a PP player.

al Furqaan
January 7, 2011, 12:07 PM
Good to see Shabbir is still in the race. I hope he makes it into the XV. Alok/Ash (if selected) should be considered as a PP player.

ditto.

as worthless as alok/ash are you don't leave them out of the world cup unless of course you want to lose to netherlands and ireland (both of whom i gurantee can bat better in PPs than we can). but our modon coach - who i have all the respect for - and modon management - who i think have been doing a pretty decent job since past 3 years - are going to concede to ashraful's demands and slot him at no 4.

ashraful should be told that he is no longer the player who can dictate terms to the rest of the team. he bats at 6 or 7, or he doesn't play at all. simple as that. let him choose. same story for alok.

perhaps we should let sabbir be this year's wildcard inclusion a la tamim.

rashed411
January 7, 2011, 12:19 PM
why is nasir not in it?

Jadukor
January 7, 2011, 12:22 PM
Naeem, Ryadh, Rokibul and Junaid are the players i am worried about..

Ryadh and Naeem both look like million dollar spinners against sides like Zimbabwe, NZ.. batters that are clueless against spin... and equally toothless against strong batting sides... they will get milked for runs while opposition keeps wickets in hand in the middle overs while the think tank will feel 10 overs 40 runs no wickets was an economical spell...
and on top of that during the powerplay they will bat like they are scared to hit the ball...

Junaid at no 3... is like a lottery... he might chip the ball to short midwicket for zero or he might score a fifty... what ever he does its not going to be a quick score...

Rokibul... or bepar e kisu bolar nai... the fact that he is in the squad makes me depressed

I am hoping for consistent performances from Mushfiq, Shakib, Tamim and Kayes... hopefully the rest can chip in... without Mashrafi... this current squad lacks fire power... Everybody seems to want to bat at no. 3! I can't see how we can chase down big scores with so many defensive minded players...

skhondoker
January 7, 2011, 12:27 PM
with the new salary structure of players, BCB just gave Ash A+ contract. Do you really think they would allow him to get kicked out of the final 15?
Imagine what a kick in their back that would be....award someone A+ contract for the year and he does not make the final 15 not due to injury but BAD form!! What a justification that the BCB is doing a hell of a job

roman
January 7, 2011, 12:36 PM
Mushy is in great form and deserves to bat at # 4. It would be a shame if he cant bat there because of Ash. We suck @ PP lets face it. Mushy/Riyad is not an answer. Ash/Alok is..

Cricmas
January 7, 2011, 12:42 PM
i know, at this moment, ASH is n0t in touch. so lots of talking going around about ASH. ami ASH er fan hoa sotte o bjte parci, j ore team e rakha thk hobe na. bt amar heart bole, ASH jodi WC er jonno selected hoy, nishchit amra abr amadr purono ASH k fire pabo. ei muhurte ASH er somalochona sob khane. bt as a fan, i just can wait n hope for ASH to do well.
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pagol-chagol
January 7, 2011, 12:43 PM
4 pacers
1.Shafiul
2. Rubel
3. Nazmul
4. Mashrafee (if fit)/another pacer.

100% sure
5. Mushfiq
6. Tamim
7. Shakib
8. Kayes

2 spinners
9. Razzaq
10. Shuvo (small chance for Naeem here)

9 batsmen fighting for 5 spots:

Mohammad Ashraful
Junaid Siddique
Roqibul Hassan
Mahmudullah
Naeem Islam
Shahriar Nafees
Jahirul Islam
Shabbir Rahman
Alok Kapali.

Jahirul/Alok/Shabbir have to be incredible in the camp to make it into the top 15.
Junaid has to do really bad to drop out of 15.
Probably two of Ash/Nafees/Riad/Naeem/Rakib will not make it.
The tension in camp will be intense.

godzilla
January 7, 2011, 01:33 PM
Mushy is in great form and deserves to bat at # 4.

You have a valid point here. If Mushy replaces Rock at # 4 then we can add someone extra for powerplay at # 6 or 7. Mushy is a bit slow during powerplay and always gets out when trying to clear the boundary. But he scores much faster then Rock and finds the gap easliy. Some one like ASH should be a good choice for # 6 or 7 (since he is getting that A+ contract might aswell use him somehow). Even a player like Sabbir might do good at that position and not to mention this also gives 1 extra part time bowler.

Catskills
January 7, 2011, 01:55 PM
I really want to see Sabbir making it to fianl XI. I have a good feeling about him.

ahms
January 7, 2011, 02:06 PM
My probable 15

1. Tamim
2. Kayes
3. Raqib/Nafees/Junaid (Junaid probably most suited here, he needs bit of luck in the beginning)
4. Shakib
5. Mushfiq
6. Ash/Mahmudullah (I will play Ash as one of the spinner for 1st 4/5 overs)
7. Shuvo
8. Razzak
9. Shafiul
10. Rubel
11. Shahadat
12. Mashrafee
13. Shabbir
14. Naeem
15. Jahurul

betaar
January 7, 2011, 02:06 PM
All you people asking for Shabbir based on what? Is it just based on his lone performance against Afgans in the Asia cup final? Even if he's doing really good in our domestic level, I don't think it warrants his inclusion in WC without any experience at the international level.

ahms
January 7, 2011, 02:08 PM
Any one has Shabbir's stat?

LateCut
January 7, 2011, 02:10 PM
Why waste a spot with Mashrafee? I also think Nafees has earned a spot.

Shaan
January 7, 2011, 02:28 PM
For me this batting order look solid and blasting:
1.Tamim
2.Imrul
3.Mushy
4.SN
5. Shakib
6.Ash
7.Alok
8.Shabbir
9.Razzak
10.Safiul
11.Rubel

Rabz
January 7, 2011, 02:33 PM
Nothing unexpected at this point.
But what is expected is some serious debate for the next few days for that coveted 15 spots.

ahms
January 7, 2011, 02:35 PM
For me this batting order look solid and blasting:
1.Tamim
2.Imrul
3.Mushy
4.SN
5. Shakib
6.Ash
7.Alok
8.Shabbir
9.Razzak
10.Safiul
11.Rubel

I just don't get why A lok, is that his good look or something? Shuvo, instead, just might complete this line-up.

wiseshah
January 7, 2011, 03:10 PM
Seems like wc squad will be like this


Tamim
kayes
junaed
mushfiq
mahmudullah
shakib
sabbir/ alok/ shuvo/naeem/ash
naeem/sabbir/alok/shuvo/ash
razzaq
shafiul
rubel

Cricket46
January 7, 2011, 03:25 PM
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4. Mushfiqur Rahim<o:p></o:p>
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7. Abdur Razzak<o:p></o:p>
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The above has 2 opening batsmen, 1 SLA spinning all-rounder, 1 wicketkeeper batsman, 2 pace bowlers and 1 specialist SLA bowler. So, I have 8 more to select. <o:p></o:p>
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I would take at least 3 more players who are specialized batsmen, or all-rounders who are primarily batsmen. That’s why all-rounders are more handy. At the risk of annoying a lot of people here, I would choose the first 5 from my Group B below. Junaid and Shahriar more or less select themselves. I still consider Ashraful to be someone who can win us an important match and hence the only gamble in my selection. Besides, this is not the playing XI. I select Jahirul not only because he is a good batsman, but also as a reserve wicketkeeper.<o:p></o:p>
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3. Mohammad Ashraful<o:p></o:p>
4. Jahirul Islam<o:p></o:p>
5. Roqibul Hassan<o:p></o:p>
6. Alok Kapali<o:p></o:p>
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So I have 3 more to complete my XV. <o:p></o:p>
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If Mashrafe was completely fit, of course he would be in my Group A, above. From Group C below, I am assuming Mashrafe is not fit. Then there is more reason to include Nazmul in the final 15. We need an offspinner and here we have to pick one of Naeem and Mahmudullah. Few months back, I would have chosen Mahmudullah, but my current pick is Naeem. I will complete my pick with Shuvo. His name came at the end, only because of the way I decided to pick the team. So if Mashrafe was fit, I would drop Nazmul from my XV.<o:p></o:p>
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Bowlers (primarily):<o:p></o:p>
1. Mashrafe Mortaza <o:p></o:p>
2. Suhrawadi Shuvo <o:p></o:p>
3. Naeem Islam<o:p></o:p>
5. Mahmudullah<o:p></o:p>
5. Nazmul Hossain<o:p></o:p>
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The main objection to my team would be why I did not select Alok. The only way that I could include him was by dropping Ashraful or Roquibul, which I am not doing. Among my Group D players below, I have to say that I don’t know much about Shabbir. Only other player that could make the XV is Rasel, as the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> pace bowler.<o:p></o:p>
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2. Shahadat Hossain <o:p></o:p>
3. Mahbubul Alam <o:p></o:p>
4. Dolar Mahmud<o:p></o:p>
5. Shabbir Rahman<o:p></o:p>
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So my team has 9 specialist batsmen (5 left-hand and 4 right-hand), 3 SLA spinners, 3 pace bowlers, 1 off spinner, 3 all-rounders and 2 wicketkeepers. <o:p></o:p>

Shehwar
January 7, 2011, 03:30 PM
Really want SN and Kapali to be in the final squad! Think it will make a considerable difference ...

22Yards
January 7, 2011, 04:05 PM
Seems like wc squad will be like this


Tamim
kayes
junaed/SN
mushfiq
mahmudullah
shakib
sabbir/ alok/ shuvo/naeem/ash
naeem/sabbir/alok/shuvo/ash
razzaq
shafiul
rubel

i hope this is how the team looks like. but the selectors would have to think out of their skin to come up with a team like this with so many changes.

Shaan
January 7, 2011, 04:21 PM
I just don't get why Alok, is that his good look or something? Shuvo, instead, just might complete this line-up.
Just for power hitting, good fielder too plus can bowl.

Shuvo is not good at hitting the balls besides we have already two left handed world class spinners.

WorldCup11
January 7, 2011, 04:29 PM
I can see everyone here making their 15 men squad by batting & bawling performances only. Some prefers all rounders above simply batsman or bowlers.

Please don't forget fielding is an important factor in our condition specially in ODI, Taking one tough catch or dropping an easy one could be the turning point of the game. Specially when matches played are low scoring, dropping one easy catch is like suicide (Ashraful ...... :mad: )

Nayeem, Raqibul, Shuvo are very good fielders in terms of taking catch & direct hit. I saw Shafiul also taking some good catches , Shuvo & Rubel work hard to save boundaries.

Now as Shafiul and Rubel already confirmed in our playing 11, lets keep other three (Nayeem, Raqibul, Shuvo) for replacement fielders. My point is , we are paying in our home ground , if anyone get injured we can replace them immediately with batsman or bowler without any delay but lets fill extra 4 (15-11 =4) positions with quality fielders who can turn the game ..... may be one or two of them can make playing 11.

If we can't decide whom to select in playing 11 , lets count who is a better fielder. I am sure Iceman knows his fielders and field placements very well. There is no value of a quality spinner if you can't take easy catches ...

cricket_pagol
January 7, 2011, 04:39 PM
How has shabbir performed during the league? Can anybody please update me...

Cricket46
January 7, 2011, 04:41 PM
You make a valid point about fielding - but unless someone is a really bad fielder, batting and bowling considerations must come before fielding. The other thing is this is World Cup, and to the best of my knowledge replacement player rules are the same for hosts and guests.

I can see everyone here making their 15 men squad by batting & bawling performances only. Some prefers all rounders above simply batsman or bowlers.

Please don't forget fielding is an important factor in our condition specially in ODI, Taking one tough catch or dropping an easy one could be the turning point of the game. Specially when matches played are low scoring, dropping one easy catch is like suicide (Ashraful ...... :mad: )

Nayeem, Raqibul, Shuvo are very good fielders in terms of taking catch & direct through. I saw Shafiul also taking some good catches , Shuvo & Rubel work hard to save boundaries.

Now as Shafiul and Rubel already confirmed in our playing 11, lets keep other three (Nayeem, Raqibul, Shuvo) for replacement fielders. My point is , we are paying in our home ground , if anyone get injured we can replace them immediately with batsman or bowler without any delay but lets fill extra 4 (15-11 =4) positions with quality fielders who can turn the game ..... may be one or two of these may already be in paying 11.:

WorldCup11
January 7, 2011, 05:06 PM
You make a valid point about fielding - but unless someone is a really bad fielder, batting and bowling considerations must come before fielding.

Off course we should consider batting and bowling before fielding, my point is if two batsman or bowler seems like equal in there capability then choose who is a better fielder. For example , our main concern is now batting order 3,4 and all rounders position 7,8 (that also play an important rule in batting power play)

Another Example, If selectors select Ashraful in #6 for batting power play , then replace him with Nayeem during fielding, this is the reason Nayeem have to be in 15 men squad. As I Mentioned earlier "Taking one tough catch or dropping an easy one could be the turning point of the game".

The other thing is this is World Cup, and to the best of my knowledge replacement player rules are the same for hosts and guests.

True, but if anyone of our 15 members get injured (I pray ,that do not happen), we can replace him quickly, without delaying for visa,travel time and tiredness, that was my point.

And for fielding experts I am talking about those 4 position outside playing 11. If there are 8 contenders for those 4 positions, you'll find their performance are almost same and difficult to choose one above other , that's the time consider "who is a better fielder?"

Naimul_Hd
January 7, 2011, 05:28 PM
I tell you, 15 men squad will be the same as during Zimbabwe series. I cant see any changes.

asdfjkl
January 7, 2011, 05:31 PM
i know, at this moment, ASH is n0t in touch. so lots of talking going around about ASH. ami ASH er fan hoa sotte o bjte parci, j ore team e rakha thk hobe na. bt amar heart bole, ASH jodi WC er jonno selected hoy, nishchit amra abr amadr purono ASH k fire pabo. ei muhurte ASH er somalochona sob khane. bt as a fan, i just can wait n hope for ASH to do well.
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sounds way too optimistic

WorldCup11
January 7, 2011, 05:37 PM
I tell you, 15 men squad will be the same as during Zimbabwe series. I cant see any changes.

১৯ জানুয়ারির মধ্যেই চূড়ান্ত স্কোয়াড আইসিসির কাছে পাঠানোর আগে ২৩ জনের এই দলকে পর্যবেক্ষণে রাখা হবে। নিউজিল্যান্ড ও জিম্বাবুয়ের স্কোয়াডই বিশ্বকাপ খেলবে বলে এক প্রকার নিশ্চিত হওয়ার পরও দুই-তিনটি পজিশন নিয়ে খোদ নির্বাচকরা চিন্তিত। প্রিমিয়ার লীগে বাকি ম্যাচগুলোতে ক্রিকেটারদের পারফর্মেন্স যাচাই করার পরই চূড়ান্ত স্কোয়াড ঘোষণা করবেন নির্বাচকরা। তার আগে লীগের খেলা এবং বিশ্বকাপের ক্যাম্পে কতটুকু ঢেলে দিতে পারেন ক্রিকেটাররা তার উপর নির্ভর করবে চূড়ান্ত স্কোয়াড। কোচ জেমি সিডন্সের সাথে আলোচনা করার পর নতুন ২৩ জনের এই দলটি তৈরি করা হয়েছে বলে জানালেন নির্বাচক জাহিদ রাজ্জাক মাসুম।


I think selectors are confused about batting order 3(Junaid) ,4 (Raqibul), 7 (Nayeem) & 8 (Shuvo)

Naimul_Hd
January 7, 2011, 05:51 PM
PA reports :

শুধু ২৩ জনের দল-ই নয়, প্রধান নির্বাচক জানালেন চূড়ান্ত দল করতেও খুব একটা বেগ পেতে হবে না। এখনো চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্ত হয়নি, তবে একটা ব্যাপার নিশ্চিত, বড় কোনো চমক থাকার সম্ভাবনা প্রায় নেই বললেই চলে ‘গত দুই সিরিজে যে দলটা খেলেছে, সেই দল থেকে খুব বেশি পরিবর্তনের সম্ভাবনা নেই। আমাদের দলটা এখন মোটামুটি দাঁড়িয়ে গেছে, সবাই নিয়মিত পারফর্ম করছে। পরিবর্তনের প্রয়োজনই তাই খুব একটা নেই।’

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-01-08/news/121755

Dhakablues
January 7, 2011, 06:02 PM
During the last world-cup, Farouque and company surprised all by dropping Khaled Mashud and including Mushfiqur Rahim who eventually did score those important runs against India. The Indian team had no idea of the trio of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur. Now they do know them and have already assigned probably 50 developers, strategists gathering all the statistical models on how to work on them. And they will after what happened last time.
There has to be a wild card surprise either by inclusion of a strategy or by a player who can upstage the in-form Indians.

The safest thing to do is to select the same 15 from the Zimbabwe squad and probably include Nafees.

But I think if Bangladesh team is really looking to outsmart the opponents, there has to be an Alok or Ashraful or some peculiar form players who can change the game in one over and electricute with their 22000 kilow watt thunder bolt batting...Alok probably won't get the shot because Siddons has really not seen him much and he really hasnt done that much in NCL. And Ashraful is a nuisance than winter Dhaka mosquito..But and and this is a wild-arsed But, if these two are selected and plays any game and if they click,,, they can do wonders, they can do something un-imaginable and turn Monika Bedi to sing bhawaiya song... Thats the risk that I dont know if our current selction team can dream of..One Ashraful can blast Australia to their ashes and one Alok can sink India to Keraniganj.. but for that an extra-ordinary risk needs to be taken like Faruque and team did back in the last world cup and these players will have to play their game like they always could've played but rarely did..:)

LateCut
January 7, 2011, 06:22 PM
I tell you, 15 men squad will be the same as during Zimbabwe series. I cant see any changes.

It means that you want to include Mashrafee even if you need a stretcher to bring him to the field.

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
January 7, 2011, 06:23 PM
Shabbir is in!!! woww

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
January 7, 2011, 06:43 PM
PA reports :

শুধু ২৩ জনের দল-ই নয়, প্রধান নির্বাচক জানালেন চূড়ান্ত দল করতেও খুব একটা বেগ পেতে হবে না। এখনো চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্ত হয়নি, তবে একটা ব্যাপার নিশ্চিত, বড় কোনো চমক থাকার সম্ভাবনা প্রায় নেই বললেই চলে ‘গত দুই সিরিজে যে দলটা খেলেছে, সেই দল থেকে খুব বেশি পরিবর্তনের সম্ভাবনা নেই। আমাদের দলটা এখন মোটামুটি দাঁড়িয়ে গেছে, সবাই নিয়মিত পারফর্ম করছে। পরিবর্তনের প্রয়োজনই তাই খুব একটা নেই।’

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-01-08/news/121755

But i really don't want "shuvo" in last 15 . Sabbir/ Kapali is far better option.

mehedi
January 7, 2011, 08:49 PM
During the last world-cup, Farouque and company surprised all by dropping Khaled Mashud and including Mushfiqur Rahim who eventually did score those important runs against India. The Indian team had no idea of the trio of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur. Now they do know them and have already assigned probably 50 developers, strategists gathering all the statistical models on how to work on them. And they will after what happened last time.
There has to be a wild card surprise either by inclusion of a strategy or by a player who can upstage the in-form Indians.

The safest thing to do is to select the same 15 from the Zimbabwe squad and probably include Nafees.

But I think if Bangladesh team is really looking to outsmart the opponents, there has to be an Alok or Ashraful or some peculiar form players who can change the game in one over and electricute with their 22000 kilow watt thunder bolt batting...Alok probably won't get the shot because Siddons has really not seen him much and he really hasnt done that much in NCL. And Ashraful is a nuisance than winter Dhaka mosquito..But and and this is a wild-arsed But, if these two are selected and plays any game and if they click,,, they can do wonders, they can do something un-imaginable and turn Monika Bedi to sing bhawaiya song... Thats the risk that I dont know if our current selction team can dream of..One Ashraful can blast Australia to their ashes and one Alok can sink India to Keraniganj.. but for that an extra-ordinary risk needs to be taken like Faruque and team did back in the last world cup and these players will have to play their game like they always could've played but rarely did..:)

perfect :notworthy::100:

shafayeen
January 7, 2011, 08:55 PM
^^^why shuvo's name in inverted commas ?

Bangladesh needs a third spinner for the world cup, kapali isnt dependant as a bowler. Shabbir i dont know. Shuvo equals kapali as a fielder. Again for Shabbir i do not know.

Dhakablues
January 7, 2011, 09:10 PM
I didn't plagiarize but seems like Shujon has a point to make: Check this out:

[বাংলা] অলককে বিশ্বকাপ দলের একাদশেই রাখতে চাই
[/বাংলা]
Source: http://dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Book&pub_no=394&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=5

amar11432
January 7, 2011, 09:58 PM
Why are people here vouching for sabbir? Which team in their right mind will select a uncapped player for World cup.

cricket_fanatic
January 7, 2011, 09:59 PM
If I had to choose today, I would go with a squad like this:

Tamim
Imrul
Junaed
Mushfiq
Shakib
Alok/Ash
Sabbir
Shuvo
Razzaq
Shafiul
Rubel

Nafees
Ash/Alok
Naeem
Najmul

I have assumed Mash, unfortunately, would not be fit in time to make the squad. Also I understand it is bit of a gamble to have proven deadwoods such as Alok/Ash @ 6 and an untested Sabbir @ 7 but, I really do not think they would do any worse than the incumbents eg. Riyad, Mushfiq/Naeem lower down the order.

Umar
January 7, 2011, 10:07 PM
All i want is sabbir in the team, he can replace shuvo, naeem, ash, rokib, jahirul any one

I'm with you bro.

I'd be really happy if selectors says we had to drop ASH for SHABBIR

Naeem should be dropped to make way for Alok as Its more likely that ALOK can slog in powerplay while Naeem will only slow things. UNLESS Naeem bats at 3/4 in place of Rakibul/Jahurul/Ash

Acura_tl88
January 7, 2011, 10:14 PM
tamim
imrual
nafees
mushfiq
shakib
ash
riad
alok
razzk
shaiful
Rubel

switch rubel with nazmul depnding on the performance.

cricket_king
January 7, 2011, 10:23 PM
A Bangladesh team without Ashraful during the biggest cricketing event just doesn't seem right...

Jadukor
January 7, 2011, 11:36 PM
I would like to see this team (although the chance of it happening is zero)

1. Tamim
2. Kayes
3. Junaid
4. Nafees
5. Mushfiq
6. Shakib
7. Alok
8. Shuvo
9. Razzak
10. Shafiul
11. Rubel

12. Nazmul
13. Ashraful
14. Shabbir
15. Naeem

top order of Junaid..tamim...Kayes should play the 20 powerplay overs... Nafees and Mushfiq is there to handle spin in the middle overs and pick the gaps for another 20 overs... and Shakib and Alok to do some carnage in the last 10....

Dilscoop
January 8, 2011, 01:14 AM
1) Tamim Iqbal 2) Imrul Kayes 3) Junaid Siddiqie 4) Jahurul Islam 5) Shakib Al Hasan 6) Mushfiqur Rahim 7) Naeem Islam 8) M Riyad 9) S Shuvo 10) Abdur Razzak 11) Shafiul Islam 12) Rubel Hossain 13) Nazmul Hossain 14) One more seamer 15) One uncapped player

M.H.Rubel
January 8, 2011, 01:25 AM
You have a valid point here. If Mushy replaces Rock at # 4 then we can add someone extra for powerplay at # 6 or 7. Mushy is a bit slow during powerplay and always gets out when trying to clear the boundary. But he scores much faster then Rock and finds the gap easliy. Some one like ASH should be a good choice for # 6 or 7 (since he is getting that A+ contract might aswell use him somehow). Even a player like Sabbir might do good at that position and not to mention this also gives 1 extra part time bowler.

You explained it well why Mushy should play at no 4.Most members in this forum also think that this is the right decision to play Mushy at #4 now my question is why the management is not implementing this?
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mishu
January 8, 2011, 01:28 AM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/inline/content/image/443685.html?alt=1
http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/117200/117223.jpg

Full name: Mohammad Sabbir Rahman
Born: 20th August 1991, Bangladesh
Current age 19 years 141 days
Batting: Right-hand batsman
Bowling: Leg-break
Biography: He is sometimes referred to on scoresheets by his nickname Rumon
Teams: Rajshahi Division (Main FC: 2008/09-2010/11); Rajshahi Division (Main ListA: 2008/09-2010/11); Barisal Division (Main Twenty20: 2009/10); Bangladesh Cricket Board Academy, Bangladesh Under-19s, Bangladesh Asia Cup team. Gazi tank.

First-Class

Batting average: 40.68 from 11 matches (19 innings). 5 wkt in around 60 overs. econ 2.98. 11 catches

List A

Batting average: 26.47 from 17 matches (16 innings). 8 wkt in around 30 overs. 13 catches

U 19 average ODI

Batting average: 30.20 from 26 matches (25 innings). 31 wkt in around 130 overs. 15 catches

cric info, cric archive

kalpurush
January 8, 2011, 01:40 AM
Why waste a spot with Mashrafee? I also think Nafees has earned a spot.
RBX and Saiful is enough to send the Indians for another holiday break...!!!;)

Dhakablues
January 8, 2011, 06:46 AM
RBX and Saiful is enough to send the Indians for another holiday break...!!!;)

If you recall, it was Mashfree taking those 4 wickets that sent India packing.. I don't think either Rubel or Shafiul has shown that kind of variations, brilliance or tricks yet that matches Mashrafee. Even the coach himselfs says that in his recent interview. But, it could be that they pull surprises the day that it matters...

iamreza
January 8, 2011, 10:22 AM
I can bet with this 11.here it is:1.tamim 2.imrul 3.junaed/nafees 4.rokibul/ashraful 5.shakib 6.mushfiq 7.shabbir/riad/nayeem 8.shuvo 9.razzak 10.shafiul 11.rubel .i have a good feeling about ash and shabbir(wild card entry) making playing 11.by the way i think at least 13 of these 15 players will make in the final 15.
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January 8, 2011, 10:23 AM
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lamisa
January 8, 2011, 11:03 AM
For me this batting order look solid and blasting:
1.Tamim
2.Imrul
3.Mushy
4.SN
5. Shakib
6.Ash
7.Alok
8.Shabbir
9.Razzak
10.Safiul
11.Rubel

ur lower middle order(6,7,8) looks too fickle.it's a gamble to play any one of them,let alone 3...specially when it's the WC

lamisa
January 8, 2011, 11:07 AM
shabbir has some very impressive stats behind him...

Tigers_eye
January 8, 2011, 12:49 PM
Kono bhabey'i AAA battery bad dewa jaitasey na!!!

It is like our version of energizer bunny!!

magic boy
January 8, 2011, 01:09 PM
[বাংলা]80তবে আমার কথা হলো, অ্যাশকে যেন অন্তত তিনটি ম্যাচ নির্ভার হয়ে খেলতে দেওয়া হয়। তাতে ও ব্যর্থ হলে ঝরে পড়বে একাদশ থেকে। তখন রকিবুল খেলবে চারে। টিম কম্বিনেশনের কারণে মুশফিকুর নেমে আসবে ছয়ে।[/বাংলা]
http://dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Book&pub_no=394&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=5


What a nonsensical thinking ! out of only 6 important matches Ash will given to play 3 consecutive matches whether he fails or not! ridiculous.such an experienced cricketer talking like this when we witnessed how Ashraful was dropped after just 1 game in last series and then we did well.I see Shakib has better cricketing brain than Khaled Mahmood Shujon the national ex-captain !!:ticking:

al Furqaan
January 8, 2011, 01:36 PM
ur lower middle order(6,7,8) looks too fickle.it's a gamble to play any one of them,let alone 3...specially when it's the WC

its no worse than riyad, naeem, shuvo at 6,7,8.

riyad i think is a solid test bat, but his ODI batting is terrible possibly selfish. we could use some selfishness in tests.

naeem is the only one who i would put in my WC XI because i still have faith in his hitting, and if not, then give him a top order spot.

shuvo shouldn't bat anywhere in the top 8 or even 9. and i'm not sure the better teams will succumb to his arm. but despite that he's been successful against NZ and ZIM so not fair to drop him, and i doubt he will get the axe.

ash/alok/shabbir...the three of them can combine for at least 20 quick runs even if one of them gets out for a duck. thats better than what naeem/riyad have provided the past year.

Shaan
January 8, 2011, 01:53 PM
its no worse than riyad, naeem, shuvo at 6,7,8.

riyad i think is a solid test bat, but his ODI batting is terrible possibly selfish. we could use some selfishness in tests.

naeem is the only one who i would put in my WC XI because i still have faith in his hitting, and if not, then give him a top order spot.

shuvo shouldn't bat anywhere in the top 8 or even 9. and i'm not sure the better teams will succumb to his arm. but despite that he's been successful against NZ and ZIM so not fair to drop him, and i doubt he will get the axe.

ash/alok/shabbir...the three of them can combine for at least 20 quick runs even if one of them gets out for a duck. thats better than what naeem/riyad have provided the past year.
That exactly was my point

Equinox
January 8, 2011, 02:18 PM
Tamim
Imrul
SN
Mushfiq+
Shakib
Ash
Naeem
Mashrafe
Shafiul
Razzak
Rubel/Shuvo

Zunaed
Jahirul
Shuvo
Shahadat

cricadda
January 8, 2011, 02:50 PM
My best xi will be.....

tamim iqbal [automatic choice]
imrul kayes [recent performance]
musfiqur rahim [capabal player]
roqibul [need someone to hold the wicket]
shakib al hasan [we all know]
mohammad ashraful [he is a capabal player of power play]
naeem islam [bowling and batting better than riad]
s...shuvo [set up for 3 spinner attack]
shafiul [new bowler breakthrow]
razzak [proven tomato ketchup]
rubel..[if mash not playing].

cricadda
January 8, 2011, 03:05 PM
World cup chaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, bas that's it....atotukueeeeeeeeeee. :flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::goal::g oal::floor::floor:

ahms
January 8, 2011, 03:27 PM
<fieldset> 'Nafees threat for Imrul, Junaed'

</fieldset> Sports Reporter
Jamie Siddons placed the onus on the competing batsmen ahead of the Tigers' World Cup training camp that begins today with 23 players.
The Tigers head coach arrived yesterday and spoke to the media at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur, praising the man in red-hot form and observing that the more the national players play competitive games, the better it will be.
Siddons said the runs Shahriar Nafees is making would put pressure on the likes of Imrul Kayes and Junaed Siddiqui, regulars in the squad for the last two years.
“I am impressed with Shahriar Nafees, he has got two hundreds and a couple of not outs and he is certainly putting pressure on Imrul (Kayes) and (Junaed Siddiqui) Imrose, that's for sure,” said Siddons.
“Rokibul (Hasan) got an 80-odd, (Mohammad) Ashraful got 90-odd and Imrul Kayes got 50 in very competitive matches.
“The game in Futullah was very close and the players were under pressure. We can't buy that and it is the best practice they can have, so we should let them play,” he added.
Siddons was however of the opinion that the final fifteen would more likely be made up of the same players who were part of the last two home series against New Zealand and Zimbabwe.
“Among the 23, most of them are obvious choices. I think we have got the best fifteen plus another eight, so I'm happy with them. But I am obviously happy with the 15 that won us the last two series.
“We will pick up the fifteen and that will be good for the World Cup,” said Siddons.
The 46-year-old Aus-tralian was also happy with the choice of captain and vice-captain of the national team, saying that the friendship between Shakib Al Hasan and Tamim Iqbal will work in their favour.
“I think the two are very good choices and the two guys will be around for a long time. They are pretty close friends and they will work pretty well out on the field together,” he said.

simon
January 8, 2011, 05:42 PM
My best xi will be.....

tamim iqbal [automatic choice]
imrul kayes [recent performance]
musfiqur rahim [capabal player]
roqibul [need someone to hold the wicket]
shakib al hasan [we all know]
mohammad ashraful [he is a capabal player of power play]
naeem islam [bowling and batting better than riad]
s...shuvo [set up for 3 spinner attack]
shafiul [new bowler breakthrow]
razzak [proven tomato ketchup]
rubel..[if mash not playing].

hmm,kochu.:-P
Nayeem as a batsman is no where near Ryad,the only significant innings I've seen from Naeem was against Zim.

rashed411
January 8, 2011, 07:00 PM
1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Imrul Kayes
3.Shahriar Nafees
4.Mushfiqur Rahim
5.Shakib al Hassan
6.Nayeem Islam
7.Shabbir Rahman
8.Shuowardi Shuvo
9.Abdur Razzak
10.Shafiul Islam
11.Rubel Hossain

firstlane
January 8, 2011, 07:12 PM
What a nonsensical thinking ! out of only 6 important matches Ash will given to play 3 consecutive matches whether he fails or not! ridiculous.such an experienced cricketer talking like this when we witnessed how Ashraful was dropped after just 1 game in last series and then we did well.I see Shakib has better cricketing brain than Khaled Mahmood Shujon the national ex-captain !!:ticking:

All our ex-cricketers & officials think like that. They think ashraful is a batting god or something. thats why ashraful kept getting chances.

kalpurush
January 8, 2011, 08:10 PM
1) Tamim Iqbal 2) Imrul Kayes 3) Junaid Siddiqie 4) Jahurul Islam 5) Shakib Al Hasan 6) Mushfiqur Rahim 7) Naeem Islam 8) M Riyad 9) S Shuvo 10) Abdur Razzak 11) Shafiul Islam 12) Rubel Hossain 13) Nazmul Hossain 14) One more seamer 15) One uncapped player
4) Ashraful 14) Mashrafee 15)Sharier Nafees

And now you have the final 15 men squad :)

* Rock might be in in place of Naeem

I am an old man, thus, know bridhdho Bagh mamar mostiskey ki ghurpak khachchhe!!!;)

M.H.Rubel
January 8, 2011, 09:40 PM
1.TMM
2.IK
3.SN/Zunayed
4.Mushy
5.SAH
6.Ash
7.Naeem/Riyad
8.S.Shuvo
9.Razzak
10.Shafiul
11.Rubel/Mash he fit
12.Rock
*If mash not fit then Nazmul.This is my 15 with batting order.
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M.H.Rubel
January 8, 2011, 09:43 PM
So SAH has discarded Mushy and took his best friend as his deputy?Hope Shak has taken the right person.Gorje otho tiger ra.
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22Yards
January 8, 2011, 11:05 PM
I tell you if you place Rock or Ash on that no 4 spot, we will witness another middle order collapse. Why cant the selectors see ? I wish i had stats to prove that that no 4 spot has been vulnerable to crumble than any other order in the team. Secure no 4, place mushfiq in there. PLEASE.

Jadukor
January 9, 2011, 12:30 AM
I tell you if you place Rock or Ash on that no 4 spot, we will witness another middle order collapse. Why cant the selectors see ? I wish i had stats to prove that that no 4 spot has been vulnerable to crumble than any other order in the team. Secure no 4, place mushfiq in there. PLEASE.

agree absolutely... we had so much time and yet we couldnt solve the problem of no. 3 and 4 positions and its disappointing. i am sure the stats would show the majority of times we are 4 wickets down by the time we reach 100 runs....

zainab
January 9, 2011, 07:02 AM
I dont think that Mash and Jahirul will make the final 15, but this depends on Mash's fitness to bowl 10 overs in a match. At the moment, he is just trying to recover, this will take probably until the end of the month, so it is likely that he will be in the squad. Feels very sorry for him, but the body can only take so much, and I fear that he will be following in Brett Lee's footsteps, who has been plagued with injuries since 2007.

lamisa
January 9, 2011, 10:05 AM
i think mash will be in the final 15 IF he thinks he is fit,regardless of whether he is ACTUALLy fit or not

Jadukor
January 9, 2011, 10:31 AM
i think mash will be in the final 15 IF he thinks he is fit,regardless of whether he is ACTUALLy fit or not

if Chaminda Vaas can be left out then so can Mashrafi... I hope Shakib will get the squad he wants and there wont be any influence of Lotus Kamal... i dont think Ashraful and Mash are Shakib or Siddon's favorite pick at the moment...

besides Worldcup is not a place to get back into fitness... squad should be selected from the people in the camp...

wiseshah
January 9, 2011, 01:28 PM
Team is almost fixed

tamim
kayes
shahriar nafees/ junaed
mushfiq
riad
shakib
alok/ sabbir/ ash
shuvo/naeem
razzaq
shafiul
rubel/ mash/ najmul/ shahadat

Jadukor
January 9, 2011, 01:42 PM
^^ how is it fixed when u have 18 players there?... slash diye toh arr shobaire WC e pathano shomvob na we need to arrive at 15 exactly...

but u r right on the positions up for competition...

Banglaguy
January 9, 2011, 05:42 PM
Bismillah.

I Know everyone is bashing over Ash and Alok, but hey, if you wanna be beaten by the Netherlands again, be my guest. But me, and every other sane person that allah has braced with any form of intelligence realises that is near suicide. Please realise, the players of old, no matter how much talent they have, they will always remain unconsistent.

When I met Naseer Hussein (He came to my school), he said ''If England had Tamim, he would be in the starting 11, along with Shakib. Now of he had ashraful with consistency, he would be captain''. So you see talent isn't a problem, they just have ''OLD BD'' Syndrome.

rashed411
January 9, 2011, 06:59 PM
Bismillah.

I Know everyone is bashing over Ash and Alok, but hey, if you wanna be beaten by the Netherlands again, be my guest. But me, and every other sane person that allah has braced with any form of intelligence realises that is near suicide. Please realise, the players of old, no matter how much talent they have, they will always remain unconsistent.

When I met Naseer Hussein (He came to my school), he said ''If England had Tamim, he would be in the starting 11, along with Shakib. Now of he had ashraful with consistency, he would be captain''. So you see talent isn't a problem, they just have ''OLD BD'' Syndrome.

i dont get your point... is it insulting Ash and Alok or complimenting them?

kalpurush
January 9, 2011, 09:08 PM
i think mash will be in the final 15 IF he thinks he is fit,regardless of whether he is ACTUALLy fit or not

4) Ashraful 14) Mashrafee 15)Sharier Nafees

And now you have the final 15 men squad :)

* Rock might be in in place of Naeem

I am an old man, thus, know bridhdho Bagh mamar mostiskey ki ghurpak khachchhe!!!;)
+1 :)

Ajfar
January 9, 2011, 10:41 PM
http://www.eprothomalo.com/contents/2011/2011_01_10/content_zoom/2011_01_10_22_7_b.jpg

taklima_naj
January 9, 2011, 10:52 PM
by reading todays newspaper it has been seen still Siddons is considering ASh for number 4 position, what the heck? mushy can play in no 4 position,if ash plays he should play in no 6. why dont they understand?

Ajfar
January 9, 2011, 11:09 PM
Siddon has no intention to play Mushy at number 4. According to NTV news report JS said Roqibul and Ash are pushing for Number 4, SN is pushing for position 1, 2 and 3. But he thinks Imroze is still our most successful number 3 batsman.

Tiger444
January 9, 2011, 11:27 PM
Siddon has no intention to play Mushy at number 4. According to NTV news report JS said Roqibul and Ash are pushing for Number 4, SN is pushing for position 1, 2 and 3. But he thinks Imroze is still our most successful number 3 batsman.

If its between Rock and Ash at #4 then I would rather have Rock in there even though Shakib should bat there. Zunaed should also bat at #3 since he's been there all year and has done well. To me he's been good enough to keep his spot.

22Yards
January 9, 2011, 11:36 PM
Siddon has no intention to play Mushy at number 4. According to NTV news report JS said Roqibul and Ash are pushing for Number 4, SN is pushing for position 1, 2 and 3. But he thinks Imroze is still our most successful number 3 batsman.

so its Either roqibul Or Ash for no 4 when we have better batsmen coming lower down the order in the names of naeem mushfiq and even riyad and guys sitting out like jahurul but no. My WC hopes are 10% down already.

and nafees can push all his life for no 1 but that position is cemented for Tamim Iqbal Khan.

He's better suited at 3 but I dont think thats also happening. Our think tank are so so reluctant to make a change that makes me pissed.

Ajfar
January 10, 2011, 12:11 AM
If its between Rock and Ash at #4 then I would rather have Rock in there even though Shakib should bat there. Zunaed should also bat at #3 since he's been there all year and has done well. To me he's been good enough to keep his spot.

It shouldn't be between Rock or Ash. It should be Mushy. Period. Mushy is the leading run scorer for this year's DPL. He scored 5 half centuries out of 7 matches. What more could we possibly want? If we put Mushy at 4, Shakib at 5, than we can have 2 all rounders (naeem, riyad, roman) for number 6 and 7. and rest tail enders.

If we are going to play Ash no matter what than I would switch his and Mushy's batting position.

Tiger444
January 10, 2011, 12:20 AM
It shouldn't be between Rock or Ash. It should be Mushy. Period. Mushy is the leading run scorer for this year's DPL. He scored 5 half centuries out of 7 matches. What more could we possibly want? If we put Mushy at 4, Shakib at 5, than we can have 2 all rounders (naeem, riyad, roman) for number 6 and 7. and rest tail enders.

If we are going to play Ash no matter what than I would switch his and Mushy's batting position.

I agree that should be neither Ash or Rock. Both of them have been average with the bat this year and we can't afford an unsettled #4. I disagree in that Mushy should be #4. I would put Shakib at #4. The reason is because he's just simply a much better batsman. He can rotate the strike at will and hit boundaries at ease. Mushy's also a good batsman but he does have his share of problems against pace. I believe he could be a good #5 for us. I also believe that we need our best batsmen to bat in the top 4. Having Tamim and Shakib in the top 4 would really be a good thing. When was the last time we had Tamim and Shakib batting together? That would be an unstoppable combo. If the team management really want Ash then he should at either #6 or #7 and have the license to hit.

wiseshah
January 10, 2011, 12:28 AM
i think if we dont perform in the world cup, the reason will be line up and player order.

ash should never bat above #7
mushy should bat at #4

siddons talk abt power play and he choose mushy, riad, shuvo in those position--what do u expect? they are not slogger, so they should find out immediate solution

Ajfar
January 10, 2011, 12:44 AM
Tiger444 number 5 is the perfect position for Shakib. Its right in the middle of the batting order. He is one guy you can always count on to perform. You don't want him batting too up the order because if he goes too quickly than that's a big gap, but than again you don't want him too low down the order you wanna be able to give him enough time to do something out there. I think for our unstable batting order Shakib at number 5 is the best option for everybody. Even though our batting might have improved a lot but that famous batting collapse is right around the corner, and who do you go to for the rescue act? Shakib. I think if he bats at number 4 there is a big possibility that he will come in to bat too soon and than he has to bat out the rest of the game, and not to mention lead the bowling attack as well.

Tiger444
January 10, 2011, 01:00 AM
Tiger444 number 5 is the perfect position for Shakib. Its right in the middle of the batting order. He is one guy you can always count on to perform. You don't want him batting too up the order because if he goes too quickly than that's a big gap, but than again you don't want him too low down the order you wanna be able to give him enough time to do something out there. I think for our unstable batting order Shakib at number 5 is the best option for everybody. Even though our batting might have improved a lot but that famous batting collapse is right around the corner, and who do you go to for the rescue act? Shakib. I think if he bats at number 4 there is a big possibility that he will come in to bat too soon and than he has to bat out the rest of the game, and not to mention lead the bowling attack as well.

Bangladesh_sy, you do make sense with that but to me since shakib is our 2nd best batsman, he should get maximum amount of time at the crease. If we had a very solid #4 then I wouldn't mind having shakib at #5 but the other batsmen including mushy seem a little too inconsistent to be at #4. The #4 in my opinion sets the tone for innings and its probably 1 of the most important positions in the batting lineup. I feel that we shouldn't play safe and have shakib up the order. I'm confident that he won't get out too early in the innings. He's been scoring so consistently for us. I feel it could make a big difference to our lineup.
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Jadukor
January 10, 2011, 01:01 AM
Choosing between Ash or Rockibul for no. 4 is like choosing to die by electricution or lethal injection.... both are unpleasent choices... We had two years to really sort out the batting order and yet we have not found a solution... its frustrating.

Mushy should have had a game at no. 4 but he didn't... so what happens if he does get pushed up the order and fails in the first WC game? Do we then shuffle him back to 6?... I dont think Siddons would take that chance... so it looks like both Junaid and Rockibul is sealed for 3 & 4...

Nafees also didnt get a game during the Zimbabwe series....if think tank was serious about playing him then they should have alteast played him in one game. Frustrating part is Junaid should have had two scores below 10 runs but luckily his easy catches were dropped...so now he has become a successful no. 3 ahead of Nafees.

I hope Junaid and Rockibul proves me wrong just like Cook did to his english critics... if those two fire then we will put up competitive scores...

jisaan
January 10, 2011, 01:08 AM
@wiseshah
Definitely.
Ash should not be considered for any position above # 6
again, putting him in at # 7 won't be a wise decision.
he is no Naeem who can hold one end up in distress situations. even mahmudullah is a much better option. it is more likely that ashraful will let us down in pressure situations because he will never care what the team or situation demands

my point is, if you are as dumb/brainless as ashraful, the highest place you can argue for is #12.

jisaan
January 10, 2011, 02:40 AM
[quote=Jadukor;1254771]Choosing between Ash or Rockibul quote]

or, for a girl, to choose between Ershad & Aziz Md. Bhai....

zainab
January 10, 2011, 06:52 AM
I honestly feel that Ash should be a N0 6 batsman, best place for him, because at NO4 if the top order collapses, he is under pressure and somehow, he cannot cope with pressure, He can bat freely at No 6, Probably, he will just be in the squad and only get one game, all depends on Sakib and Siddons.
Jahirul has not faced many international matches, should not be in and I would choose Naeem above Raqibul. With so many good players competing for the top 11, it is difficult to drop a good player, but I am sure tht they will choose the best 15 for the squad.

Only1raz
January 10, 2011, 07:45 AM
1 Tamim Iqbal
2 Imrul Kayes
3 Shahriar Nafees
4 Raqibul Hasan
5 Shakib Al Hasan
6 Mushfiqur Rahim
7 Alok Kapali
8 Mashrafe Mortaza
9 Suhrawadi Shuvo
10 Abdur Razzak
11 Shafiul Islam


12 Rubel Hossain
13 Nazmul Hossain / Shabbir Rahman
14 Junaid Siddique
15 Mohammad Ashraful (Let's face it he will be in the final 15 whether you want it or not)

taklima_naj
January 10, 2011, 11:56 AM
so its Either roqibul Or Ash for no 4 when we have better batsmen coming lower down the order in the names of naeem mushfiq and even riyad and guys sitting out like jahurul but no. My WC hopes are 10% down already.

and nafees can push all his life for no 1 but that position is cemented for Tamim Iqbal Khan.

He's better suited at 3 but I dont think thats also happening. Our think tank are so so reluctant to make a change that makes me pissed.

True, it is sad, and my hopes has gone down to 30%. Look at riyadh strike rate in leages match and positions for Nayeem also, they are top orders batsmen, not the hitters, that we need, oh i miss even aftab for no 6 position, who also helped us to win vs kardif at playing in no 6.

Dhakablues
January 10, 2011, 12:26 PM
1 Tamim Iqbal
2 Imrul Kayes
3 Shahriar Nafees
4 Raqibul Hasan
5 Shakib Al Hasan
6 Mushfiqur Rahim
7 Alok Kapali
8 Mashrafe Mortaza
9 Suhrawadi Shuvo
10 Abdur Razzak
11 Shafiul Islam


12 Rubel Hossain
13 Nazmul Hossain / Shabbir Rahman
14 Junaid Siddique
15 Mohammad Ashraful (Let's face it he will be in the final 15 whether you want it or not)


If they are in form, yes this is the ideal/fantasy team of Bangladesh. This team has the firepower to do anything and has all the variations.

Murad
January 10, 2011, 02:57 PM
I hope they don't select Ash for WC. If he fails, he will be out forever. Siddons should pick someone else for no.4.

roman
January 10, 2011, 03:22 PM
I hope they don't select Ash for WC. If he fails, he will be out forever. Siddons should pick someone else for no.4.

I cant believe its you who is saying this :)... Now I can imagine how reliable Ash is

Tiger444
January 10, 2011, 03:36 PM
I cant believe its you who is saying this :)... Now I can imagine how reliable Ash is

Haha I know right! Well murad bhai might be a big ash fan but he's not a blind 1. Even though I believe ash will never be out of the picture, it would do absolutely no good for his confidence if he bats at #4. He's just way too out of form and low in confidence to be batting at #4. Ideally he should not bat even at #6 or #7. Just keep him out of the picture and perform in the FC and List A leagues. Also he needs to play well in the A team in order to get back. Putting him in big pressure situations time and again will just destroy him.
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Murad
January 10, 2011, 04:05 PM
I cant believe its you who is saying this :)... Now I can imagine how reliable Ash is

:-D I said this many times. Apne hoito notice korennai :)

I'm one his big fans thats why I don't want to see him in this WC. If he fails, he will not get another chance to comeback for long long time. I didn't want to see him against the Zimbs as well. He needs to work on his confidence in domestic leagues for a year at-least. Even though he is scoring runs in the on-going league, his confidence level is same as before (Most likely).

Murad
January 10, 2011, 04:07 PM
Haha I know right! Well murad bhai might be a big ash fan but he's not a blind 1. Even though I believe ash will never be out of the picture, it would do absolutely no good for his confidence if he bats at #4. He's just way too out of form and low in confidence to be batting at #4. Ideally he should not bat even at #6 or #7. Just keep him out of the picture and perform in the FC and List A leagues. Also he needs to play well in the A team in order to get back. Putting him in big pressure situations time and again will just destroy him.
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Exactly what I wanted to say. :)

WorldCup11
January 10, 2011, 04:22 PM
I think it's quite harsh on Mahmudullah as many here completely ignored him in their 15 men list. I know he slowed down his batting and not a power play material. But look at his recent DPL performance, I believe he is a much better & talented than Raqibul to bat @ number 4 position.

If Siddons doesn't want to swap Mushfiq from his present #6, then Mahmudullah is a good option.

Ashraful should play in Batting power play where Mahmudullah/Nayeem playes (if for any reason he needs to be in the team), not in #4 for sure.

I'll choose either Junaid or SN for number 3, both of them should be in the 15, one as backup batsman

roman
January 10, 2011, 04:42 PM
Haha I know right! Well murad bhai might be a big ash fan but he's not a blind 1. Even though I believe ash will never be out of the picture, it would do absolutely no good for his confidence if he bats at #4. He's just way too out of form and low in confidence to be batting at #4. Ideally he should not bat even at #6 or #7. Just keep him out of the picture and perform in the FC and List A leagues. Also he needs to play well in the A team in order to get back. Putting him in big pressure situations time and again will just destroy him.

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Please keep in mind that Ash is too big of a STAR to miss out a world cup. Having said that I think #4 is just not for him. Mushy is in great form and he deserves to bat there. Having Ash to bat @ #4 will not do any good to his confidence level. Even though I cant stand Ash but I think Ash (and maybe Alok) is our ONLY soultion for BPP ATM. Ash should not be given any needless burden of building up an innings or something like that. Let him play his natural game like the way Siddons let Tamim play. Ash should be given a license to kill. (and only then may be we can see Ashraful er keramoti) And we all know how much of a pleasure it is to see an inform Ash bat....

Tiger444
January 10, 2011, 05:20 PM
Please keep in mind that Ash is too big of a STAR to miss out a world cup. Having said that I think #4 is just not for him. Mushy is in great form and he deserves to bat there. Having Ash to bat @ #4 will not do any good to his confidence level. Even though I cant stand Ash but I think Ash (and maybe Alok) is our ONLY soultion for BPP ATM. Ash should not be given any needless burden of building up an innings or something like that. Let him play his natural game like the way Siddons let Tamim play. Ash should be given a license to kill. (and only then may be we can see Ashraful er keramoti) And we all know how much of a pleasure it is to see an inform Ash bat....

I understand what your saying bro but honestly judging ash's form I feel he would struggle getting it going even batting at #6. I know he's shown in the past what kind of shots he could play and honestly he could be a very player for down the order but nowadays he's even slower then rock. I just feel he'll just block, block, block then have a brain fart and get out even at the end of the innings. He's just too low in confidence to be batting in the WC. I guess since the team management want him int lineup he should be put at a less pressure position and be at 7. The thing is its probably not happening and they'll try to put him at #4.
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ssaadi123
January 10, 2011, 07:58 PM
my 15 man for the world cup:

Shakib Al Hasan
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Junaid Siddique
Mohammed Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mahmudullah
Nazmul Hossain
Naeem Islam
Rubel Hossain
Shafiul Islam
Abdur Razzak
Suhrawadi Shuvo
Shahriar Nafees
Alok Kapali

Dhakablues
January 11, 2011, 05:34 PM
It won't be easy for selectors to go for Alok or Ashraful. It's easier for them to select the regulars from the 15 and keep the team solid. No reason to rock the boat. Yes, myself included, we are asking for that 'X Factor' player who can puzzle the opposition as all the regular 15 has been studied and strategized already by the opponent teams.. but I don't think that it will happen. Rafiqul and company are simply not that imaginative...

Besides, there is another side of the story.. all the members, 15 of them, of the squad may potentially get 1-5 lakh taka, flats, cars, money, stardome etc. during this world cup and once they get into the 2nd round. Why would you want to include who has not been part of the build up team? Hence, there will be politics involved, there will be tremendous pressure from the media, board, ex-captains, mobs for the selectors..

if Alok and Ashraful continues to score runs after the 15 is announced, the media and mob will pity their ineptness and call them morons!! But if they do select Ashraful and Alok and they fail to live up the hype (again), they media will ask for their heads after tearing them apart... which one is easier?

akabir77
January 11, 2011, 05:40 PM
so why is kapali in the 15 again? i mean what did he do?

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
January 11, 2011, 08:26 PM
i want sabbir/ kapali at no 7

Bugz
January 11, 2011, 09:57 PM
Kapali won't be in the WC team. Has done nothing for 2 years.

taklima_naj
January 12, 2011, 01:19 AM
It shouldn't be between Rock or Ash. It should be Mushy. Period. Mushy is the leading run scorer for this year's DPL. He scored 5 half centuries out of 7 matches. What more could we possibly want? If we put Mushy at 4, Shakib at 5, than we can have 2 all rounders (naeem, riyad, roman) for number 6 and 7. and rest tail enders.

If we are going to play Ash no matter what than I would switch his and Mushy's batting position.

period; cant anybody give this messages to siddonds and co,? as we dont have power hitter rather than riyad and nayeem we should at least try this way

Raynman
January 12, 2011, 11:13 AM
when is the squad reduced to 15?

Rifat
January 12, 2011, 11:21 AM
when is the squad reduced to 15?

before january 19th, January 19th is the last day.

Tiger Manc
January 12, 2011, 11:58 AM
Siddon has no intention to play Mushy at number 4. According to NTV news report JS said Roqibul and Ash are pushing for Number 4, SN is pushing for position 1, 2 and 3. But he thinks Imroze is still our most successful number 3 batsman.

Ridiculous to have Raqibul and Ash ahead of SN at #4 imo.

al Furqaan
January 12, 2011, 01:57 PM
I am starting to hate Siddons the ODI coach (have no problems with his test vision)....but he is causing our ODI team to be massive underachievers.

how idiotic must he be to keep insisting on mushy down the order with useless rock and idiotic ash in contention for #4? and junaid our most successful no.3, please. all he does is hit worthlessly slow 50s, the same kind ash hit at the same position.

we're not going to go very far with siddons bullshit lineup, written in stone no matter what the game situation is or the capablities of the players.

SS
January 12, 2011, 03:45 PM
This is what happens when you can not think outside the box...is he aiming for our batters to bat 50 overs full and score 200 runs...it worked w NZ and Zimb but it won't work in WC...how come Ash and Roqibul getting #4 spot when they are not performing

Banglaguy
January 12, 2011, 03:55 PM
i dont get your point... is it insulting Ash and Alok or complimenting them?

It's saying that they are good on thier day you know, but now we have players who are always performing consistently, we dpn't need ''Those days''.

roman
January 12, 2011, 03:57 PM
I am starting to hate Siddons the ODI coach (have no problems with his test vision)....but he is causing our ODI team to be massive underachievers.

how idiotic must he be to keep insisting on mushy down the order with useless rock and idiotic ash in contention for #4? and junaid our most successful no.3, please. all he does is hit worthlessly slow 50s, the same kind ash hit at the same position.

we're not going to go very far with siddons bullshit lineup, written in stone no matter what the game situation is or the capablities of the players.

Exactly...No matter how good a player performs, Siddons will always stick to his favorite players. Thats a disgrace!!

Dhakablues
January 12, 2011, 07:33 PM
I am starting to hate Siddons the ODI coach (have no problems with his test vision)....but he is causing our ODI team to be massive underachievers.

how idiotic must he be to keep insisting on mushy down the order with useless rock and idiotic ash in contention for #4? and junaid our most successful no.3, please. all he does is hit worthlessly slow 50s, the same kind ash hit at the same position.

we're not going to go very far with siddons bullshit lineup, written in stone no matter what the game situation is or the capablities of the players.

You forgot the interview last year where Siddons said that after keeping for 50 overs, Mushfique needs a bit rest before he can bat again. Moreover, he is down the batting lineup to help accelerate the tempo with the tail enders. Siddons has nothing against Mushfique and never considered anyone other than him for wicket keeping. He wanted to ensure that Mushfique is playing his right role without stressing him much.

akabir77
January 12, 2011, 07:59 PM
I am starting to hate Siddons the ODI coach (have no problems with his test vision)....but he is causing our ODI team to be massive underachievers.

how idiotic must he be to keep insisting on mushy down the order with useless rock and idiotic ash in contention for #4? and junaid our most successful no.3, please. all he does is hit worthlessly slow 50s, the same kind ash hit at the same position.

we're not going to go very far with siddons bullshit lineup, written in stone no matter what the game situation is or the capablities of the players.

so the coach who got was white wash is the most idiotic...

instead of giving names of the problems. give us the solution and put some money on it. who should bat at 3 and 4? SN and who? what if SN fails as his track record should that he fails against big teams? and what about number 4?

we r thinking our selves as number 2/3 team but we r number 9/8. so we need to plan like one it doesn't matter if you like it or not. u can make sabbir or any other player at 7/8/9 position's but what makes u think they will any better when players like nayeem, riyad r finding it hard?

22Yards
January 12, 2011, 08:59 PM
You forgot the interview last year where Siddons said that after keeping for 50 overs, Mushfique needs a bit rest before he can bat again. Moreover, he is down the batting lineup to help accelerate the tempo with the tail enders. Siddons has nothing against Mushfique and never considered anyone other than him for wicket keeping. He wanted to ensure that Mushfique is playing his right role without stressing him much.

Excuse me
but what is so special in keeping compared to fielding under whatever condition there may be ? Why mushfiq needs "bit of rest" exclusively and not Shakib, Tamim, Imrul or the guys who come in before him ? I do understand keeping needs extra concentration as you constantly have to catch the ball behind the stumps but really if you can't deal with that bit and require "bit of rest" after 50 overs of keeping then really you're not much of an athlete and therefore shouldn't be a sports person to begin with.

I wonder whats up with Gilchrist, Akmal, McCullum and the rest of the guys who keep 50 overs and come to open in batting. Plus he's not helping at all in accelerating the tempo with the tailenders towards the end of the innings thats the point. He is a good batsman and should play the role of an anchor (I mean with a good strike rate and someone who is able to rotate the strike in the middle overs). Trust me, he will do way better than Junaid, Roqibul and co.

Jadukor
January 12, 2011, 09:08 PM
u can make sabbir or any other player at 7/8/9 position's but what makes u think they will any better when players like nayeem, riyad r finding it hard?
this is exactly what annoys some of us fans the most... we had so many years to prepare for this worldcup, why haven't we at least tried one or two games with someone else? Maybe Nayeem and riyad is the maximum we can do... or maybe an impact player like tamim (who was discovered in 07 WC) is hidden somewhere... the thing is we will never know because we haven't tried anyone new in those positions in the NZ and Zimbabwe series.

wiseshah
January 12, 2011, 09:15 PM
we have 37 days to go and we dont have any international match coming up till then. why dont we make a tournament with national players vs top 5 clubs (mohamedan, abahoni, biman, Ghazi tank, kolabagan)

or national VS bangladesh A team match (it can be 5 match series and should have attractive award)

thats the way our players can have match practice. my two teams will be

national

tamim
kayes
junaed
mushfiq+
riad
shakib (C)
naeem
shuvo
razzaq
shafiul
rubel


bangladesh A

nazimuddin
shahriar nafees
shuvagoto Hom
alok kapali
jahurul islam+
ashraful (C)
sabbir
shahadat
enamul haq jr.
najmul
rasel

Murad
January 12, 2011, 09:41 PM
this is exactly what annoys some of us fans the most... we had so many years to prepare for this worldcup, why haven't we at least tried one or two games with someone else? Maybe Nayeem and riyad is the maximum we can do... or maybe an impact player like tamim (who was discovered in 07 WC) is hidden somewhere... the thing is we will never know because we haven't tried anyone new in those positions in the NZ and Zimbabwe series.

Siddons and co's mantra for WC: play the same team. NO need to experiment before the world cup. Be it against Kenya or Canada.

Whatmore was best in this regard. He gave us Tamim and Shakib before the WC.

wiseshah
January 12, 2011, 09:46 PM
Siddons and co's mantra for WC: play the same team. NO need to experiment before the world cup. Be it against Kenya or Canada.

Whatmore was best in this regard. He gave us Tamim and Shakib before the WC.

i think he just play safe, so no controversy. but whatever siddons and shakib does---seems like they are always right.

al Furqaan
January 12, 2011, 10:35 PM
so the coach who got was white wash is the most idiotic...

instead of giving names of the problems. give us the solution and put some money on it. who should bat at 3 and 4? SN and who? what if SN fails as his track record should that he fails against big teams? and what about number 4?

we r thinking our selves as number 2/3 team but we r number 9/8. so we need to plan like one it doesn't matter if you like it or not. u can make sabbir or any other player at 7/8/9 position's but what makes u think they will any better when players like nayeem, riyad r finding it hard?

it isn't just that. its the principle of the matter. namely, that our thinking is completely uni-dimensional...there is no alternative, no plan b, no sort of dynamism. that was what bashar's captaincy was like. but now it seems siddons is responsible for the managerial aspect or strategic aspect of our limited overs sides.

personally i dont care abotu T20, and we play it too rarely for anyone to relaly complain. and his Test vision is frankly doing very well. he has at least identified the best fits for our test side and been able to improve them.

but in ODIs, he's holding us back with his thinking. someone once said, it doesn't matter if we use our brains and arrive at the wrong conclusion. its better than not thinking at all and accidentally getting the right answer.

as for my lineup...i don't have all the answers but this is what i think is best:

1) tamim
2) imrul
3) mushy
4) SN
5) sakib
6) ash
7) jahirul
8) naeem/shuvo
9) razzak
10) shaiful
11) rubel

mortaza looks certian to miss out. but if he was healthy he'd be in place of naeem/shuvo. junaid and riyad would prolly be in my XV, but they're too sissy to start. same with rock.

Jadukor
January 12, 2011, 10:50 PM
Are people allowed to watch our squad practice in the camp? i wish we could have some photos of the practice sessions and details of the kind of routine they are currently going through....

wiseshah
January 12, 2011, 10:56 PM
so the coach who got was white wash is the most idiotic...

instead of giving names of the problems. give us the solution and put some money on it. who should bat at 3 and 4? SN and who? what if SN fails as his track record should that he fails against big teams? and what about number 4?

we r thinking our selves as number 2/3 team but we r number 9/8. so we need to plan like one it doesn't matter if you like it or not. u can make sabbir or any other player at 7/8/9 position's but what makes u think they will any better when players like nayeem, riyad r finding it hard?

thats why we have to try them and see if they are better or not. without trying, u cant compare. changing in line up is part of cricket, otherwise zaheer abbas would still bat instead of afridi.

india and england's recent success totally based on their experiment and thats how they got so many players.if u see their all 3 format--they tried most players in last 1 year. we have to follow their footsteps to be successful like them

because we believed in change in some points and we got shakib, tamim, shafiul.

wiseshah
January 12, 2011, 10:57 PM
Are people allowed to watch our squad practice in the camp? i wish we could have some photos of the practice sessions and details of the kind of routine they are currently going through....

great idea.

lamisa
January 13, 2011, 08:50 AM
this is no time to shuffle players around the lineup and speculate who clicks where.this should have been done during the zim series or when we already won the series against nz.stupid people,jahurul is the best option for number 4 and look what the selectors have done,not givn him enough chance to prepare and ofcourse he's out of the wc equation.bunch of morons...

AsifTheManRahman
January 13, 2011, 02:17 PM
I am starting to hate Siddons the ODI coach (have no problems with his test vision)....but he is causing our ODI team to be massive underachievers.

how idiotic must he be to keep insisting on mushy down the order with useless rock and idiotic ash in contention for #4? and junaid our most successful no.3, please. all he does is hit worthlessly slow 50s, the same kind ash hit at the same position.

we're not going to go very far with siddons bullshit lineup, written in stone no matter what the game situation is or the capablities of the players.
It's frustrating. Yet you'll see people come here and bicker about how fans must look stupid to the coaches. Well, results speak for themselves and the coaches can do what they want but obviously it isn't working out. We'll have to score big to win games in this WC and our best bet is for SN to play at 3 and Mushfiq at 4. Instead we'll get Ash and Raqibul; or Junaed, who can't score for the life of him in international ODs.

jam
January 13, 2011, 03:33 PM
Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Shahriar
Rokibul
Shakib
Ashraful (Other options Nayeem\Mahmudullah)
S Shuvo (Nayeem)
Shafiul
Razzak
Rubel

Zunaid
Nayeem
Mahmudullah
Nazmul

Openers - Automatic choice.

One down - Shahriar makes a lot of "Khocha" to be an opener or 1 down (not safe, when he has to face the pacers with the new ball). Mushfiq is in top form (DPL) to be in 3rd position.

4rth position - But, Shahriar has stroke in his hand. After putting two relatively slower batsmen (Imrul and Mushfiq), we need someone who can give us some quick runs. He can play spins as well. Expectation would be, first 3 batsmen will stay long enough so that Shahriar can avoid new ball swing.

5th batsmen - Rokibul is placed between two stroke players to bring some stability in the innings in case our batsmen are too hasty getting out. He can also play some nice strokes. We have seen that.

6th (First All Rounder) - Shak the iceman can bring stability in case of a collapse. Or bring some quick runs when he inherits a stabilized innings from the top order.

7th (Second All Rounder) - I picked Ashraful, as he lately picked up his bowling. He can bowl 4/5 overs in the middle, when needed. More so, when he comes in to bat at this position, 5 of our first 6 batsmen have already gone to the pavilion. So, Ash cannot affect their batting. We never could capitalize the batting PP. We are yet to see PP batting from Chhokka Nayeem or Mahmudulah. Why not then use Ash's stroke in this position to utilize batting PP. His strike rate is better than the other two. All 3 of these players could play in the WC practice matches (number 6, 7 and 8 positions) and whoever performs, gets the first 2 matches in WC. If the 1st can’t perform in the first 2 matches, the 2nd best from the practice matches comes in for the next games. This is a position where we can afford to change players often.

8th (Bowler 1) - S Shuvo or Nayeem. If the world cup wasn't here in the sub-continent, I would choose a pacer.

9th (Bowler 2) - Razzaq

10th (Bowler 3) - Shafiul

11th (Bowler 4) - Rubel

Note: There should be no rookies for the world cup.

roman
January 13, 2011, 04:23 PM
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৩০ জনের বিশ্বকাপ স্কোয়াড এখন ২৩ জনের। বিশ্বকাপের এক মাস আগে ১৫ জনের দল ঘোষণার নিয়ম থাকলেও বাংলাদেশ দল ঘোষণার সম্ভাবনা রয়েছে তারও আগে। বিসিবির একটি সূত্র জানিয়েছে, ক্রিকেট অপারেশন্স কমিটি ১৬ জানুয়ারির মধ্যে দল ঘোষণার জন্য নির্বাচকদের তাগিদ দিয়েছে। কথাটি স্বীকার করলেন নির্বাচকদের একজন। বললেন, মাশরাফির ইনজুরির রিপোর্ট পাওয়া যাবে ১৫ জানুয়ারি। এরপর আমরা নিজেদের মধ্যে একটু আলোচনা করব। তারপর দল ঘোষণা। সেটা ১৬ তারিখ হওয়ার সম্ভাবনাই বেশি। না হলে হয়তো বড়জোর ১৭ জানুয়ারি হতে পারে, এর বেশি নয়। ওই নির্বাচকের সঙ্গে আলাপচারিতায় বোঝা গেল, তাদের হাতে তৈরি রয়েছে দুটি দল_ একটি মাশরাফিকে নিয়ে, আরেকটি দেশের অন্যতম সেরা এই ক্রিকেটারকে ছাড়া। আর নির্বাচকদের কথাবার্তায় স্পষ্ট, মাশরাফিকে রেখেই ১৫ জনের দলটি বানানোর জন্য বেশ উৎসাহী তারা। কেন? উত্তর পাওয়া গেল এক নির্বাচকের কথায়। বললেন, মাশরাফি, মাশরাফিই। ওর মতো ফাইটার ক্রিকেটার দরকার। বিশেষ করে যখন দেশের মাঠে বিশ্বকাপের খেলা, সে কারণে দলে ওর প্রয়োজন আছে। সেই সঙ্গে দুই বিশ্বকাপ খেলার অভিজ্ঞতা তাকে অনেকটাই এগিয়ে রাখবে। মাশরাফির মতো নির্বাচকদের আস্থা দেখা গেল আশরাফুলের ওপরও আছে। দুই দলেই আশরাফুল আছেন ... এমন আভাসও পাওয়া গেল নির্বাচকদের সঙ্গে কথা বলে। এক নির্বাচক বললেন, ক্রিকেটারদের ক্যারিয়ারে 'বাজে সময়' থাকে ... আশরাফুলেরও তেমন সময় যাচ্ছে বলেই মনে হচ্ছে। তবে লীগের খেলাগুলোতে আমরা তার ওপর একটু বেশিই নজর রেখেছি। দেখলাম, বাজে সময় কাটিয়ে ওঠার চেষ্টায় সে অনেকটাই সফল। ১৫ জনের দলে তার না থাকার তেমন কোনো কারণ নেই বলেও মন্তব্য আরেক নির্বাচকের। ওদিকে শাহরিয়ার নাফীসকেও ১৫ জনের দলে রাখার প্রশ্নে নির্বাচকরা একমত বলেই জানা গেছে। নিউজিল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে সিরিজে দলে থাকলেও একসময় জাতীয় দলের অপরিহার্য শাহরিয়ার নাফীস বাদ পড়েছিলেন জিম্বাবুয়ের বিপক্ষে সিরিজে। এরপর ঘরোয়া লীগে তার নজরকাড়া পারফরম্যান্স নির্বাচকদের স্বস্তি দিয়েছে। সে কারণেই সে ১৫ জনের দলে থাকছে_ নিশ্চত করলেন এক নির্বাচক। অবশ্য ২৩ জনের স্কোয়াডে থাকা অলক কাপালির পারফরম্যান্স ততটা সন্তুষ্টি এনে দিতে পারেনি নির্বাচকদের। আপাতত ১৫ জনের স্কোয়াডে অলক কাপালির জায়গা হচ্ছে না বলেই আভাস পাওয়া গেল তাদের কথায়।
তো এবারের দল বানানোর কাজটা তো মনে হচ্ছে একটু বেশি সহজই? স্বাভাবিক আলোচনার ছেদ পড়ল এমন কথাতেই। ওই নির্বাচক বলতে থাকলেন, মনে হতে পারে সহজ, তবে অতটা সহজ নয়। দেখুন না, মাশরাফিকে না পেলেই তো বিকল্প চিন্তা করতে হবে আমাদের। মাশরাফি দলের গুরুত্বপূর্ণ সদস্য। তার বদলি চিন্তা করাটাই তো কঠিন। আর তা বাস্তবায়ন করাটা তো আরও কঠিন। তবে হ্যাঁ, নিউজিল্যান্ড ও জিম্বাবুয়ের বিপক্ষে সিরিজ দুটি আমাদের কাজ অনেকটাই সহজ করে দিয়েছে। এক-দেড় বছর ধরে একটি দলই খেলছে। প্রতিটি বিশ্বকাপের আগে একটি চমক থাকে ... নির্বাচকদের মধ্যে তারকা ক্রিকেটারকে দলের বাইরে রাখার একটা প্রবণতা দেখা যায় বিশ্বকাপ দল বানানোর সময়। এবারও কী তেমন কিছু থাকছে? মনে হচ্ছে না। জানালেন এক নির্বাচক। বললেন, আইসিএলের বিপর্যয়ের পর আর কখনোই আমরা দলে তেমন বড় পরিবর্তন আনিনি। বিশ্বকাপ স্কোয়াডেও বড় পরিবর্তনের সম্ভাবনা নেই বললেই চলে। তাছাড়া এখন ক্রিকেট এবং ক্রিকেটারদের পারফরম্যান্সের ওপর সবার নজর আছে, আছে পেশাদারিত্ব। আবেগতাড়িত হওয়ার কোনো জায়গা নেই। তাছাড়া দলের সদস্যদের গড়বয়স ২৪। সবাই তরুণ। সবাই তারকা, সবাই পারফরমার। সুতরাং আগের মতো সেই অর্থে তারকা বাদ পড়ার সুযোগও কম। ২৩ জনের দলের সবার পারফরম্যান্সের বাইরে ফিটনেসও দেখছেন নির্বাচকরা। সবমিলিয়ে জিম্বাবুয়ে ও নিউজিল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে দুটি সিরিজ, সেই সঙ্গে লীগের খেলায় দলে বা দলের বাইরে থাকা অনেকেরই পারফরম্যান্স অনেক ভালো। সুতরাং পুরো পেশাদারিত্বের দৃষ্টিকোণ থেকে ১৫ জনের দল বানানোটা বেশ সহজই বলতে পারেন।
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ssaadi123
January 13, 2011, 08:10 PM
I know selector won't pick up alok. Basically there would be no chnages from the team played agaisnt Zim except SN will coem in to fill up one extra spot that is 15th man.

akabir77
January 13, 2011, 08:42 PM
so the coach who got was white wash is the most idiotic...

instead of giving names of the problems. give us the solution and put some money on it. who should bat at 3 and 4? SN and who? what if SN fails as his track record should that he fails against big teams? and what about number 4?

we r thinking our selves as number 2/3 team but we r number 9/8. so we need to plan like one it doesn't matter if you like it or not. u can make sabbir or any other player at 7/8/9 position's but what makes u think they will any better when players like nayeem, riyad r finding it hard?

thats why we have to try them and see if they are better or not. without trying, u cant compare. changing in line up is part of cricket, otherwise zaheer abbas would still bat instead of afridi.

india and england's recent success totally based on their experiment and thats how they got so many players.if u see their all 3 format--they tried most players in last 1 year. we have to follow their footsteps to be successful like them

because we believed in change in some points and we got shakib, tamim, shafiul.

so u want to try out new players in WC!!!

SS
January 13, 2011, 11:38 PM
Just trying to think what could be difference if ...Mash and Ash in the squad...or their replacements (whoever) it is in the squad...how will Shakib use them or without them...

tanvir_nus
January 14, 2011, 06:19 AM
I don't understand how members of the press and this forum can leave out Junaid out of the final 11 and the number 3 position. For god's sake he has scored 500+ runs with an avg of 35+ this year. It just puzzles me and frustrates me to not see cricketing brain behind some of the decisions that people take sometimes. Yes, Shahriar Nafees is a good choice but not having played the Zim series and performing below par bowlers in the premier league with really no pressure whatsoever does not mean he deserves a place in the finall 11 on the 19th feb. Keeping him as a back up option if someone fails in the top order is fine but to play him instead of Junaid, my word, you guys sicken me.


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Baundule
January 14, 2011, 08:35 AM
Too much discussions about Siddons; but everybody is forgetting the most important one: Is his contract extended beyond the world cup?

beshideshi
January 14, 2011, 09:19 AM
I don't understand how members of the press and this forum can leave out Junaid out of the final 11 and the number 3 position. For god's sake he has scored 500+ runs with an avg of 35+ this year. It just puzzles me and frustrates me to not see cricketing brain behind some of the decisions that people take sometimes. Yes, Shahriar Nafees is a good choice but not having played the Zim series and performing below par bowlers in the premier league with really no pressure whatsoever does not mean he deserves a place in the finall 11 on the 19th feb. Keeping him as a back up option if someone fails in the top order is fine but to play him instead of Junaid, my word, you guys sicken me.


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Don't feel bad for Junaid, Imrul got[gets] similar treatment as well, despite being the 5th[or 6th?] highest run getter in ODIs this year. We fans tend to be attracted by flashy 20s rather than steady, unattractive 50s.
Junaid has performed against Eng in Eng and deserves the #3 spot. SN could be kept as a back up who will fill in when Junaid fails, but right now there should not be much doubt about the #3 position.

I believe its the same mentality that causes some of us to dislike the coach. Yes, for his slightly defensive attitude we will be 15-20 runs short in most games, but this is going to be much better for us in the long run. Remember how not so long ago we used to complain about lack of patience in our players? Now they are gaining the patience, soon we will have players who will be able to score 50 off 5 overs. It's a development process we are going through, without building a strong foundation, you can't raise a tall building.

roman
January 14, 2011, 01:12 PM
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ঘোষণা অচিরেই

মিথুন আশরাফ ॥ বিশ্বকাপ দল নিয়ে নানা জল্পনাকল্পনা চলছেই। ২৩ সদস্যের প্রাথমিক দল থেকে শেষ পর্যন্ত ১৫ সদস্যের চূড়ান্ত দলে সুযোগ পাবেন কারা? এ নিয়ে আলোচনা তুঙ্গে। বিশ্বকাপ দল বলে কথা। স্বপ্নের এই দলে থাকতে সবাই চান। কিন্তু ১৫ জনেরই কপালে জুটবে স্বপ্নে সত্যিকারভাবে বাস করার উপলৰ। আগামীকাল রবিবার অথবা পরের দিনই সেই স্বপ্নের দল ঘোষণা হয়ে যেতে পারে। সেই দলে অভিজ্ঞতা আর তারুণ্যের মিশেলই দেখা যাবে। আছেন মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল, শাহরিয়ার নাফীস ও অলক কাপালীর মতো অভিজ্ঞ ক্রিকেটাররাও! নির্ভরযোগ্য সূত্রে এমনই আভাস মিলেছে। যদিও কেউ এখনই দল নিয়ে মুখ খুলতে রাজি নন। তবে ১৫ সদস্যের দল যে চূড়ান্ত সেই তথ্য বিশেষ সূত্রে পাওয়া গেছে। শুধু আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণার অপেক্ষামাত্র। সেই অপেক্ষা মাশরাফির জন্যই।
বাংলাদেশ পেসার মাশরাফি বিন মর্তুজাকে নিয়েই যত ভাবনা। আজ শনিবার তার ইনজুরি সেরে ওঠা নিয়ে বিশদ আলোচনা আছে। এর পরই বিশ্বকাপ দলে মাশরাফি থাকছেন কি না তা চূড়ান্ত হয়ে যাবে। তবে এই দেশসেরা পেসারকে আপাতত ১৫ সদস্যের দলেই রাখা হয়েছে। শেষ মুহূর্তে যদি কাটা পড়ে যান, তার স্থানে পেসার নাজমুল হোসেন সুযোগ পাবেন। দুই ওপেনার তামিম ইকবাল ও ইমরুল কায়েসকে নিয়ে কোন হিসেবনিকেশ নেই। তিন নম্বরে জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিকীর স্থান টলানোর জন্য প্রস্তুত শাহরিয়ার নাফীস। এই অভিজ্ঞ ব্যাটসম্যান জুনায়েদের সঙ্গে আছেন। জুনায়েদ আবার প্রয়োজনে ওপেনিংয়েও খেলতে পারেন। চার নম্বর স্থান নিয়েও আলোচনার তুঙ্গে থাকা আশরাফুলের অভিজ্ঞতার মূল্য দেয়ার সিদ্ধান্ত চূড়ান্ত। আছেন রকিবুল হাসানও।
বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক শাকিব আল হাসান ও উইকেটরক্ষক মুশফিকুর রহীম থাকবেনই। ৭ নম্বরে মাহমুদুল্লাহ রিয়াদও নিশ্চিত। ৮ নম্বর স্থানটি নিয়ে আছে বিশদ আলোচনা। অলক কাপালীকে আবার দলে ভেড়ানোর সম্ভাবনা উজ্জ্বল। প্রথমত, লেগব্রেকার। আপাতত দলে এরকম বোলার নেই। সেই সঙ্গে পাওয়ার প্লের শক্তি হিসেবে কাপালীকে দলেরই প্রয়োজন। তার সঙ্গে নাঈম ইসলামও চূড়ান্ত দলে আছেন। তবে শেষ মুহূর্তে কোন হিসেবের অমিল না হলে এ দুইজনই এই স্থানের জন্য থাকছেন তা সূত্রমতে নিশ্চিত হওয়া গেছে। যদি অমিল হয় তাহলে সোহরাওয়ার্দী শুভও স্থান করে নিতে পারেন। সেই সঙ্গে কাপালী নয়ত নাঈমের যে কোন একজনকে বাদ দেয়া হতে পারে। ৯ নম্বরে মাশরাফি আছেন। তার অনুপস্থিতিতে নাজমুল আসবেন। ১০ নম্বরে আবদুর রাজ্জাকের বিকল্প নেই। আর ১১ নম্বরে রুবেল হোসেন ও শফিউল ইসলামকেই রাখা হচ্ছে। এই দুই তরুণ পেসার দলের নির্ভরযোগ্য এবং ভবিষ্যতে পেস এ্যাটাকের মজবুত ভিতও। এখন ২৩ সদস্যের দলে রয়েছেন ওপেনার হিসেবে তামিম, ইমরুল, টপ অর্ডারের ব্যাটসম্যান হিসেবে শাহরিয়ার, জুনায়েদ, আশরাফুল, রকিবুল, মুশফিকুর, নাঈম, অলক কাপালী, জহিরুল ইসলাম, সাবি্বর রহমান, অলরাউন্ডার হিসেবে শাকিব, রিয়াদ, স্পিনার হিসেবে আবদুর রাজ্জাক, সোহরাওয়ার্দী শুভ, পেসার হিসেবে মাশরাফি, নাজমুল, রুবেল, শফিউল, সৈয়দ রাসেল, শাহাদাত হোসেন রাজিব, মাহবুবুল আলম রবিন, ডলার মাহমুদ। এখান থেকেই ১৫ সদস্যের স্বপ্নের বিশ্বকাপ দল বাছাই করে নিতে হচ্ছে। এজন্য আলোচনারও শেষ নেই। প্রতিনিয়ত বিশ্বকাপ দল নিয়ে চলছে আলোচনা। কোচ জেমি সিডন্স, অধিনায়ক শাকিব আল হাসান, জাতীয় দল নির্বাচক কমিটির সদস্যরা এবং ক্রিকেট অপারেশন্স কমিটি আলোচনা করেই যাচ্ছে। দলও চূড়ান্ত। এর পরও শেষ মুহূর্তের যাচাইবাছাই চলছে। যেহেতু দেশের মাটিতে হবে বিশ্বকাপের খেলা, তাই দেশবাসীর চাহিদা পূরণ করাই মূল লৰ্য। সেই লক্ষ্যে এমন একটি দলই ঘোষণা করতে হবে, যা নিয়ে থাকবে না বিতর্ক। দলের ক্রিকেটাররাও একত্রিত হয়ে করতে পারবে নৈপুণ্য। এমন দলই ঘোষণা করার চিন্তা হচ্ছে।
বিশ্বকাপ শুরু হবে ১৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি। বাকি ৩৫ দিন। মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামে বাংলাদেশ-ভারত ম্যাচ দিয়েই দশম বিশ্বকাপ আসরের যাত্রা শুরু হবে। এর পর গ্রুপ পর্বে বাংলাদেশের অন্য প্রতিপক্ষগুলো হচ্ছে আয়ারল্যান্ড, ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ, ইংল্যান্ড, হল্যান্ড ও দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকা। বিশ্বকাপ শুরু হওয়ার দুই মাস আগে প্রাথমিক দল ঘোষণা করতে হয়। বাংলাদেশ সেটি করেছে। বিশ্বকাপের উদ্দেশ্যে অনুশীলনে নামার আগে ৩০ সদস্যের দল থেকে ৭ জন ছাঁটাইও হয়েছে। বিশ্বকাপের এক মাস আগে ঘোষণা করতে হয় চূড়ানত্ম দল। সেই হিসেবে ১৯ জানুয়ারির মধ্যে ১৫ সদস্যের চূড়ানত্ম দল ঘোষণা করতে হবে। বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) এর আগেই চূড়ান্ত দল ঘোষণা করবে। মাশরাফিকে নিয়ে ভাবনা দূর হওয়ার অপেৰা। 'নড়াইল এঙ্প্রেস'কে নিয়ে একটা সিদ্ধানত্মে আসতে পারলেই দল আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে ঘোষণা দিয়ে দেবে বিসিবি। আজ মাশরাফির অবস্থা বুঝবে সবাই। এর পর কাল অথবা পরশু দল ঘোষণা হতে পারে। এমনই জানা যায়।
সূত্রমতে, যদি কেউ ইনজুরিতে না পড়েন ১৫ সদস্যের বিশ্বকাপের সম্ভাব্য দলে রয়েছেন তামিম ইকবাল, ইমরুল কায়েস, শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিকী, মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল, রকিবুল হাসান, শাকিব আল হাসান, মুশফিকুর রহীম, মাহমুদুলস্নাহ রিয়াদ, নাঈম ইসলাম, অলক কাপালী, মাশরাফি বিন মতর্ুজা, আবদুর রাজ্জাক, রম্নবেল হোসেন ও শফিউল ইসলাম।
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http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=11&dd=2011-01-15&ni=45706

roman
January 14, 2011, 01:17 PM
^Rumman is not going to make it. And as I expected Ash is there and will bat at # 4. Really wanted Mushy to bat there.

Dhakablues
January 14, 2011, 01:21 PM
I don't understand how members of the press and this forum can leave out Junaid out of the final 11 and the number 3 position. For god's sake he has scored 500+ runs with an avg of 35+ this year. It just puzzles me and frustrates me to not see cricketing brain behind some of the decisions that people take sometimes. Yes, Shahriar Nafees is a good choice but not having played the Zim series and performing below par bowlers in the premier league with really no pressure whatsoever does not mean he deserves a place in the finall 11 on the 19th feb. Keeping him as a back up option if someone fails in the top order is fine but to play him instead of Junaid, my word, you guys sicken me.


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SN performing below par? Are you forgetting the fact that Nafees is one of the leading scorers of the league and has couple of match winning centuries? He has scored more runs than Tamim or Shakib.. And when did Zimbabwe become a better opposition than NZ?

roman
January 14, 2011, 01:26 PM
http://ittefaq.com.bd/content/2011/01/15/news0839.htm

As per Ittefaq, Kapali is not going to make it in the 15. These BD newspapers are so conflicting...

al Furqaan
January 14, 2011, 05:41 PM
It's frustrating. Yet you'll see people come here and bicker about how fans must look stupid to the coaches. Well, results speak for themselves and the coaches can do what they want but obviously it isn't working out. We'll have to score big to win games in this WC and our best bet is for SN to play at 3 and Mushfiq at 4. Instead we'll get Ash and Raqibul; or Junaed, who can't score for the life of him in international ODs.

we need 200 wickets. wickets where that is a good score. if we lay out flat decks, forget about beating India or SA. even england will be tough to be beat.

on a 200 wicket, we can beat anyone.

Dhakablues
January 14, 2011, 05:50 PM
Once upon a time there used to be that selected players will be divided into Bangladesh Lal and Banglaesh Shobuj team nd play competitive match for the selectors and players to evaluate each other.. Why don't we do that anymore? Why are we selecting players merely based on net practice where players like Ashraful, Rajin Saleh, Junaed always performs wonderfully? Can't we just have atleast one such match amongst the 23 players and find out who has the match fitness and corrected their 'back lift', 'delivery action','pull shot' etc. I mean its always easy to stand next to the coach and get advise against performing to win a place in a match against hungry players..

SS
January 14, 2011, 06:19 PM
Once upon a time there used to be that selected players will be divided into Bangladesh Lal and Banglaesh Shobuj team nd play competitive match for the selectors and players to evaluate each other.. Why don't we do that anymore? Why are we selecting players merely based on net practice where players like Ashraful, Rajin Saleh, Junaed always performs wonderfully? Can't we just have atleast one such match amongst the 23 players and find out who has the match fitness and corrected their 'back lift', 'delivery action','pull shot' etc. I mean its always easy to stand next to the coach and get advise against performing to win a place in a match against hungry players..

Agree where are those matches...atleast 23 players should have played few ODI first to see who performs...BD cricket just one step forward then two steps backward..what is the basis of selecting AA based on which experience!!! They are not fit for intl matches...on the other hand why didn't BCB organize more A team matches with these rejects...what were they doing...BCB is another perferct example of corrupted organization where money is spent in wrong way...

taklima_naj
January 14, 2011, 06:37 PM
this is no time to shuffle players around the lineup and speculate who clicks where.this should have been done during the zim series or when we already won the series against nz.stupid people,jahurul is the best option for number 4 and look what the selectors have done,not givn him enough chance to prepare and ofcourse he's out of the wc equation.bunch of morons...

true, now his confidence has gone down, he was the right person for no 4 as a consistent performer

Murad
January 14, 2011, 07:07 PM
^^^
If his confidence gone down because he wasn't selected against NZ/Zimbabwe, then he doesn't deserve a place in the national squad.

Tiger444
January 14, 2011, 08:09 PM
I like Jahurul Islam a lot but I just don't understand this talk about how he should've been our permanent #4. In my opinion, nobody has a permanent spot except Tamim and Shakib. I agree Rock hasn't been good either but honestly how great has Jahurul been? Just because he got a couple of 40s, it doesn't mean he should've be our permanent #4. Then Jahurul could've been in the Zim squad but averaged only a 20 in the NCL and has done little in the DPL. When you look at it at a deeper angle his List A avg is far from impressive. An average of a 25 with no centuries. That's just not good enough for a top order batsman. Also as a professional cricketer he should not be low in confidence because he got dropped. He's gotta pick himself up and start performing. I have faith that he'll be a great batsman for us in the near future but right now let him bat more consistently. Neither Rock nor Jahurul deserve the #4 in my opinion.

cricket_fanatic
January 14, 2011, 11:25 PM
From those newspaper reports, it looks as if 12 out of 15 spots are already decided. The open spots are of Masharfe's based on fitness while 2 from Naeem, Shuvo & Alok make up the 15.

rinathq
January 14, 2011, 11:30 PM
I agree with ppl about Jahiruls average.......... but i think we can fairly sure, he wont be playing for no.4 spot anytime soon. There is Roqibul, Ash and even Nafees for that spot.... If needed, Mahmudullah can play there. He is not an ideal finisher either, so i dunt see his use in the team..... he can be a potential test player, and we should save him for that format...... if we leave out jahirul i think the problem gets solved automatically

Tamim
Imrul
Junayed
Nafees
Shakib
Mushfiq
Naeem
Shuvo
Razzaq
Shafiul
Rubel

Mahmudullah (i dunt see the difference between Mahmudullah and SHuvo, on upside, he can atleast take "SOME" runs)
Nazmul (cause we need another pacer)
Alok Kapali/ Ash for PPs

Dunt forget, we need a strong spin attack......without that, we are weaker than Ireland!
Its upto the selectors, if they want to risk Kapali and see if it works or do they want to waste the slot Ash thinking he might bring Eid in February

Really feel bad for Mashrafee though, i am sure he will return to destroy the Aussies, Kiwis and many more :)

ahnaf
January 15, 2011, 12:00 AM
Don't feel bad for Junaid, Imrul got[gets] similar treatment as well, despite being the 5th[or 6th?] highest run getter in ODIs this year. We fans tend to be attracted by flashy 20s rather than steady, unattractive 50s.
Junaid has performed against Eng in Eng and deserves the #3 spot. SN could be kept as a back up who will fill in when Junaid fails, but right now there should not be much doubt about the #3 position.

I believe its the same mentality that causes some of us to dislike the coach. Yes, for his slightly defensive attitude we will be 15-20 runs short in most games, but this is going to be much better for us in the long run. Remember how not so long ago we used to complain about lack of patience in our players? Now they are gaining the patience, soon we will have players who will be able to score 50 off 5 overs. It's a development process we are going through, without building a strong foundation, you can't raise a tall building.

top post bhai..

MarvinDaMartian
January 16, 2011, 05:41 AM
Excuse me
but what is so special in keeping compared to fielding under whatever condition there may be ? Why mushfiq needs "bit of rest" exclusively and not Shakib, Tamim, Imrul or the guys who come in before him ? I do understand keeping needs extra concentration as you constantly have to catch the ball behind the stumps but really if you can't deal with that bit and require "bit of rest" after 50 overs of keeping then really you're not much of an athlete and therefore shouldn't be a sports person to begin with.

I wonder whats up with Gilchrist, Akmal, McCullum and the rest of the guys who keep 50 overs and come to open in batting. Plus he's not helping at all in accelerating the tempo with the tailenders towards the end of the innings thats the point. He is a good batsman and should play the role of an anchor (I mean with a good strike rate and someone who is able to rotate the strike in the middle overs). Trust me, he will do way better than Junaid, Roqibul and co.

To add, I think England in this world cup will definitely play Steve Davies (the wicket keeper) as an opener.

AsifTheManRahman
January 16, 2011, 09:15 AM
I don't understand how members of the press and this forum can leave out Junaid out of the final 11 and the number 3 position. For god's sake he has scored 500+ runs with an avg of 35+ this year. It just puzzles me and frustrates me to not see cricketing brain behind some of the decisions that people take sometimes. Yes, Shahriar Nafees is a good choice but not having played the Zim series and performing below par bowlers in the premier league with really no pressure whatsoever does not mean he deserves a place in the finall 11 on the 19th feb. Keeping him as a back up option if someone fails in the top order is fine but to play him instead of Junaid, my word, you guys sicken me.


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Sickens you? Lol.

Well Junaed hasn't really performed in the last couple of series. Although SN hasn't played against Zimbabwe, Junaed hasn't done anything notable against them. IMO SN should get the nod based on recent form. Plus we need more firepower in our top order, which Junaed is often unable to provide. We already have too many snails up there.
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crikss
January 16, 2011, 09:58 AM
Junaed / SN

Roq / Ash

Mash / Nazmul

Alok / Shabbir

Equinox
January 16, 2011, 11:24 AM
I thought the squad was to be announced today? What's going on?

riankhan
January 16, 2011, 11:30 AM
Junaed / SN

Roq / Ash

Mash / Nazmul

Alok / Shabbir

Thanks for the puzzle, but you forgot to provide the decryption key!

Junaed/SN ==> Coach's love is the key (though, both deserve places)
Roq/Ash ==> Ash syndrome is the key (none deserves a place)
Mash/Nazmul ==> Fitness is the key
Alok/Shabbir ==> '0' is the key, but in BD, zero becomes hero often!

Shehwar
January 16, 2011, 11:44 AM
Where is the squad? I'm getting so impatient!
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Tiger444
January 16, 2011, 11:59 AM
Sickens you? Lol.

Well Junaed hasn't really performed in the last couple of series. Although SN hasn't played against Zimbabwe, Junaed hasn't done anything notable against them. IMO SN should get the nod based on recent form. Plus we need more firepower in our top order, which Junaed is often unable to provide. We already have too many snails up there.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you Asif bhai on SN being our #3. He's barely played any international cricket in the last 2 years. He also hasn't batted at #3 yet in international cricket so it would be a very risky move to have him in at #3. Zunaed on the other hand has spent this whole year in both tests and ODIs as a #3. Not only that but he's had a good avg and decent SR. I agree in the NZ series he was poor but in the Zim series he did his job in 2 games. The 1st 50 he put together a solid partnership with rock which took the game away from zimbabwe and then the 2nd 50 he was a solid partner for tamim. I agree he wasn't very flashy but in those circumstances it wasn't necessary. He also has proved before that he could play some very nice power shots right away. SN deserves to be in the squad but he should serve as a backup. If zunaed and/or imrul fail then he could come in and play.
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Jadukor
January 16, 2011, 12:07 PM
I'm gonna have to disagree with you Asif bhai on SN being our #3. He's barely played any international cricket in the last 2 years. He also hasn't batted at #3 yet in international cricket so it would be a very risky move to have him in at #3. Zunaed on the other hand has spent this whole year in both tests and ODIs as a #3. Not only that but he's had a good avg and decent SR. I agree in the NZ series he was poor but in the Zim series he did his job in 2 games. The 1st 50 he put together a solid partnership with rock which took the game away from zimbabwe and then the 2nd 50 he was a solid partner for tamim. I agree he wasn't very flashy but in those circumstances it wasn't necessary. He also has proved before that he could play some very nice power shots right away. SN deserves to be in the squad but he should serve as a backup. If zunaed and/or imrul fail then he could come in and play.
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both of Junaid's 50s were due to easy dropped catches early in the innings... his tremendous luck has really hurt Nafees's chances here as selectors are also likely to see the scores only and not how they came...

Tiger444
January 16, 2011, 12:29 PM
both of Junaid's 50s were due to easy dropped catches early in the innings... his tremendous luck has really hurt Nafees's chances here as selectors are also likely to see the scores only and not how they came...

Can't really hold that against him completely though bro. He did end up scoring those 50s. Its not only those 50s but he did hit a 100 against ireland which was good considering it was in their conditions and also good knocks against pakistan and england with good SRs. He's done the job at #3 in my opinion.
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Shehwar
January 16, 2011, 01:11 PM
Any news about the squad?
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magic boy
January 16, 2011, 01:13 PM
Any news about the squad?
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will be officially announced on 17th January

Jadukor
January 16, 2011, 11:14 PM
Can't really hold that against him completely though bro. He did end up scoring those 50s. Its not only those 50s but he did hit a 100 against ireland which was good considering it was in their conditions and also good knocks against pakistan and england with good SRs. He's done the job at #3 in my opinion.
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well i hope you are right man... as far as think-tank is concerned Junaid seems set for no. 3... and I sincerely hope he proves my fears wrong and gives us that stability at the top of the order.

I would not have any doubts about him if the tournament was in English conditions... on flat, spinning tracks like bangladesh... scoring rate is very important and so is the ability to play spin... He doesn't convince me in either of those aspects...

Dhakablues
January 17, 2011, 12:36 AM
Honestly, between Junaed and Nafees, it isnt like a contrast comparison of Ashraful and Shakib. Meaning, its bayanno or teppanno..They both are lefties and usually gets out similiar ways 'fishing outside off'.. Nafees is no doubt much better with his experience and current form that is hard to ignore. The coach is definitely impressed with Nafees and unless he is hell bend over Junaed and Shakib is also mellow on that issue and the board completely agrees with him... Nafees will be out. My gut feel is he wont be out of the 15 because of his batting ability in 3-4.

My personal worry is who is that # 6/7 for powerplay that we are the most weakest at!!

Tiger444
January 17, 2011, 12:38 AM
well i hope you are right man... as far as think-tank is concerned Junaid seems set for no. 3... and I sincerely hope he proves my fears wrong and gives us that stability at the top of the order.

I would not have any doubts about him if the tournament was in English conditions... on flat, spinning tracks like bangladesh... scoring rate is very important and so is the ability to play spin... He doesn't convince me in either of those aspects...

I agree with you that he's not very convincing. SN though hasn't been any more convincing though which is why its just better to stick with what we have. I give credit to SN for playing well in the NZ series but his innings were chancy as well. In some instances he was lucky that he wasn't out. I'm hoping that zunaed can deliver once WC comes by.
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Jadukor
January 17, 2011, 01:00 AM
one thing is for sure... if we are to win against big teams we have to bat better than we did against NZ and Zimbabwe... We need to be able to get at least 40 runs from the batting power play...with team totals in excess of 250 every game...

NZ and Zim's poor batting might make our pitch look like a 220 wicket...but I have a feeling the big teams like SA, England, India all can score much more with the kind of firepower they have in their lineup. Toughest opposition would be the Indians who will use their feet and get to the pitch of the ball from the get go... we haven't seen that at all from NZ or Zim batters. it won't be easy for our spinners to get them out or control the scoring...

we have seen before also that our bowlers did well till the 40th over restricting opposition to about 4.5 runs per over only to get a hammering at the death by one of the power hitters... this is where Rubel becomes the key...he was hitting good lengths during the NZ series occasionally bowling those pin point yorkers... I hope he will get his rhythm back to the same level...

crikss
January 17, 2011, 01:18 AM
I think BCB will take safe route and the team will be like

TI
IK
JS
ROQ
Shak
Mushy
M.Riyad
Naeem
A.Razzaq
Shafiul
Rubel
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Ash
SN
Nazmul
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Shuvo/Shabbir

Jadukor
January 17, 2011, 11:07 PM
i wish we had a series against one of the big teams instead of Zimbabwe... that would have exposed some of our weaknesses which Zimbabwe obviously failed to exploit... South Africa for example would learn a lot about the quality of their reserve players like Ingram, Parnell..from this tough series against India... and so would England about the likes of Luke Wright, Yardy... by facing the aussies...
In our case since we never tried anyone new from the probable 23... the skeletons now remains buried in a shallow grave... waiting to be dug out by the sniffer dogs (read analysts) of the big teams...[ends with haunting piano music a la x-files]

PoorFan
January 17, 2011, 11:33 PM
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Jadukor
January 17, 2011, 11:51 PM
We need six bowling options in every game, that makes life difficult for Sabbir and Alok.

Six bowling options for example : Shafiul, Rubel, Shakib, Razzak, Mahmudullah, one of Nayeem/Shuvo/Nazmul [since we can not rely for full 10 overs on except Shakib and Razzak]. Not at all sure how much they [Sabbir, Alok] can contribute with ball, and also not sure about their fielding.

Tamim, Imrul, Mushi comes as auto choice, and that makes rest two form Nafees/Zunaid, Ash/Rock. Alok's only contender here is Rock but Rock's consistency and fielding makes him ahead I guess.

Mash's lack of fitness [both physical and game] makes him auto choice for TV watcher.

thats right... bowling combination wise Shabbir and Alok would find it tough to get into the final 11... but if alok/shabbir are in the squad.. then it gives shakib options in case Mahmudullah and Naeem fails in their respective positions....

I would have ash and alok/shabbir at 7,8 along with razzak, shafiul and rubel... even if ash and alok/shabbirs 10 overs go for 60 runs... still having them would mean that we would have batters who can win the match for us coming late down the order...

PoorFan
January 18, 2011, 12:30 AM
thats right... bowling combination wise Shabbir and Alok would find it tough to get into the final 11... but if alok/shabbir are in the squad.. then it gives shakib options in case Mahmudullah and Naeem fails in their respective positions....

I would have ash and alok/shabbir at 7,8 along with razzak, shafiul and rubel... even if ash and alok/shabbirs 10 overs go for 60 runs... still having them would mean that we would have batters who can win the match for us coming late down the order...
If Alok/Sabbir are to in the squad then someone has to sit out, who it could be? One of Mahmudullah/Nayeem? or is it one of Nafees/Zunaid? Nafees/Zunaid looks more solid choice as upper order, can we afford to drop them? If not then it has to be one of Mahmudullah/Nayeem/Shuvo/Nazmul I guess. Mahmudullah is in good form so he stays. Nazmul is a must reserve pacers so he also stays. Nayeem is a good fielder with better bowling options but lacks power batting. Shuvo is a better fielder with much better bowling options than Alok/Sabbir IMO, but really sucks in batting. So at the end its a tough call for Alok/Sabbir, though a gamble could be Alok in place of Shuvo. But for Sabbir its too early and too much of gambling I guess.

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 12:47 AM
If Alok/Sabbir are to in the squad then someone has to sit out, who it could be? One of Mahmudullah/Nayeem? or is it one of Nafees/Zunaid? Nafees/Zunaid looks more solid choice as upper order, can we afford to drop them? If not then it has to be one of Mahmudullah/Nayeem/Shuvo/Nazmul I guess. Mahmudullah is in good form so he stays. Nazmul is a must reserve pacers so he also stays. Nayeem is a good fielder with better bowling options but lacks power batting. Shuvo is a better fielder with much better bowling options than Alok/Sabbir IMO, but really sucks in batting. So at the end its a tough call for Alok/Sabbir, though a gamble could be Alok in place of Shuvo. But for Sabbir its too early and too much of gambling I guess.
Ditto Boroluk Fan bhai. And Alok lacks match practice and out of international cricket for too long IMHO. Even he didn't do well in the local league. I do not see any lights for both Shabbir and Alok for the WC 2011, though I like them both.

Shabbir has a bright future ahead though :)

Jadukor
January 18, 2011, 01:09 AM
If Alok/Sabbir are to in the squad then someone has to sit out, who it could be? One of Mahmudullah/Nayeem? or is it one of Nafees/Zunaid? Nafees/Zunaid looks more solid choice as upper order, can we afford to drop them? If not then it has to be one of Mahmudullah/Nayeem/Shuvo/Nazmul I guess. Mahmudullah is in good form so he stays. Nazmul is a must reserve pacers so he also stays. Nayeem is a good fielder with better bowling options but lacks power batting. Shuvo is a better fielder with much better bowling options than Alok/Sabbir IMO, but really sucks in batting. So at the end its a tough call for Alok/Sabbir, though a gamble could be Alok in place of Shuvo. But for Sabbir its too early and too much of gambling I guess.

good points man... take a look at this 15 and tell me what you think
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Nafees
4. Mushfiq
5. Shakib
6. Ashraful
7. Alok
8. Sabbir
9. Shafiul
10. Razzak
11. Rubel

12. Naeem
13. Roqibul
14. Junaid
15. Nazmul

Murad
January 18, 2011, 01:16 AM
Why is everyone choosing Alok? He is a failure in the on-going league. Hasn't doen anything for long time.

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:18 AM
^^^
because we need a power hitter..... Duh! We dunt need him to play stable, sensible, long innings......
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Jadukor
January 18, 2011, 01:28 AM
Why is everyone choosing Alok? He is a failure in the on-going league. Hasn't doen anything for long time.

because Naeem and Mahmudullah haven't done anything significant given the amount of chances they got over the past year....

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:38 AM
Guys words are coming, BCB have announced their squad,
No Nafees, Alok, Shabbir.......
Squad is,
Tamim
Imrul
Junayed
Roqibul
Shakib
Mushfiq
Naeem
Shuvo
Mashrafee
Razzaq
Shafiul
Rubel
Shahadat
Mahmudullah
Ashraful

:(
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Jadukor
January 18, 2011, 01:40 AM
exclusion of shabbir and alok is understandable... i would be disappointed but not shocked... but No Nafees!!!!... i will pull my hair out if that happens... this is a freakin TEST team!

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:42 AM
Yes..... They picked 4 pacers inluding Shahadat......
Little hope though, if Mashrafee doesn't play, nafees will replace him, but again that's equally bad
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Jadukor
January 18, 2011, 01:44 AM
Yes..... They picked 4 pacers inluding Shahadat......
Little hope though, if Mashrafee doesn't play, nafees will replace him, but again that's equally bad
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why four pacers when we can replace injured players during the tournament? We dont even use two pacers for their full quota of 10 overs most times in BD pitches!!!!

Zunaid
January 18, 2011, 01:47 AM
If true, will move #180 onwards to this thread:

The Bangladesh final 15 for the World Cup [Place holder] - waiting .... (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=35305) (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/images/BanglaCricket/misc/multipage.gif 1 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=35305) 2 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=35305&page=2) 3 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=35305&page=3) )

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:50 AM
Jadukor: dunt ask me......... They won't use the pacers much specially when our opponents are pace experts.... But I guess seeing how all of mash, Shafi, Rubel are partially injured they went for an extra one.......
Again, this is the rumor, dunno if it's true.... Hope not
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PoorFan
January 18, 2011, 01:56 AM
Nafees should be in the list instead of Mash or Shuvo.

AsifTheManRahman
January 18, 2011, 09:20 AM
I can't take this anymore. Need a smoke. And I don't smoke, never have.
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Equinox
January 18, 2011, 09:42 AM
So BCB included Mash and took out SN otherwise it's pretty much the selector's team. Imrul, Rokibul, Naeem and Mahmudullah in the same team. Sigh. Well at least it's the team Shakib and Siddons want. So they will have to be accountable if this team fails.

roman
January 18, 2011, 09:47 AM
NO SN???? Is it for real?