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_Rafi_
January 13, 2011, 07:47 AM
Seems like former captains start influencing selector to pick Ash in WC cup squad. Already Faruk, Akram, Bashar, Rokibul joined to support Ash inclusion in various media interview and writing. So far no expert said anything against Ash. Surely Baghmama and co reading these interviews and going to play safe by including Ash in the squad.
Do u BCites agree with our so called cricket experts?

_Rafi_
January 13, 2011, 07:54 AM
[বাংলা]ফারুক আহমেদের অভিমত
বিশ্বকাপে আশরাফুলের অভিজ্ঞতার প্রয়োজন রয়েছে (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-01-13/news/123232)[/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]‘দেশের হয়ে দেড়শর বেশি ওয়ানডে খেলা কোনো খেলোয়াড়ের অভিজ্ঞতা একেবারেই হেলাফেলার বিষয় নয়। তাই আসন্ন বিশ্বকাপে আশরাফুলের মতো অভিজ্ঞ খেলোয়াড়ের বাংলাদেশ দলে প্রয়োজন রয়েছে।’ যাকে দলে নেওয়া না নেওয়া নিয়ে এ মুহূর্তে চারদিকে বিতর্কের ঝড় সেই মো. আশরাফুল সম্পর্কে এমনই মূল্যায়ন বাংলাদেশের সাবেক অধিনায়ক ও প্রধান নির্বাচক ফারুক আহমেদের।
প্রথম আলো অনলাইনের সঙ্গে একান্ত আলাপচারিতায় ফারুক বলেন, ‘আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে আমাদের প্রত্যাশা অনেক। এটা ঠিক যে সে তাঁর প্রতিভা অনুযায়ী ধারাবাহিকতার সঙ্গে কখনো খেলতে পারেনি। তবে বিশ্বকাপ ক্রিকেটের মতো আসরে আশরাফুলের অবশ্যই দলে থাকা উচিত। আমাদের ক্রিকেট এখনো সেই পর্যায়ে পৌঁছায়নি যে হুট করে দেড়শ ওয়ানডে খেলা একজন খেলোয়াড়কে আমি বাদ দিয়ে দেব। তাহলে তো ওর প্রতি ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের যে বিনিয়োগ তার পুরোটাই অপচয় হবে।’
আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে নিজের সহানুভূতি থাকলেও দর্শক সমর্থকদের অনুভূতির ব্যাপারটিও আশরাফুলকে মাথায় রাখতে হবে বলেও মনে করেন ফারুক।
সাবেক প্রধান নির্বাচক হিসেবে বর্তমান নির্বাচক কমিটির মূল্যায়ন করতে গিয়ে ফারুক বলেন, ‘২০০৭ সালে আমরা যে পর্যায়ে দলকে রেখে এসেছিলাম, সেই পর্যায়ের তুলনায় প্রথম দিকে বর্তমান কমিটির কাজকর্ম একটু অগোছালো ছিল। হতে পারে, আইসিএল একটা সমস্যা সৃষ্টি করেছিল সে সময়। তবে এ মুহূর্তে সেই সমস্যা থেকে রফিকুল আলমের নেতৃত্বাধীন কমিটি অনেকটাই বেরিয়ে এসেছে।’ এই ধারাবাহিকতা ধরে রাখতে পারলে ভবিষ্যতে বাংলাদেশ আরও ভালো করবে বলেই ফারুক বিশ্বাস করেন।
বর্তমান নির্বাচক কমিটি ঠিক পথে এগোলেও নতুন তারকা তৈরির ক্ষেত্রে এই কমিটি বেশ পিছিয়ে আছে বলে মনে করেন ফারুক। তবে দল হিসেবে শক্ত ভিত্তির ওপর দাঁড় করাতে হলে অতিরিক্ত পরিবর্তন কাম্য নয় বলেই তিনি মনে করেন।
তামিম ইকবালের সহ-অধিনায়ক হিসেবে নিয়োগ পাওয়া চমত্কার একটি সিদ্ধান্ত বলেই মানছেন ফারুক। তিনি মনে করেন, ক্রিকেটে সহ-অধিনায়কের ভূমিকাটা একজন সিনিয়র খেলোয়াড়ের মতোই। তাই তামিমের মতো খেলোয়াড় এই ভূমিকায় দলকে দারুণ সাহায্য করতে পারবে বলে মনে করেন তিনি। ফারুক আরও বলেন, একজন উদ্বোধনী ব্যাটসম্যান প্রথমে মাঠে নেমে ম্যাচের মেজাজটা অন্য যেকোনো খেলোয়াড়ের চেয়ে অনেক ভালো বোঝে। সেই হিসেবে তামিম দলকে ভালোই সাহায্য করতে পারবে।
সাকিবের অধিনায়ক হওয়া নিয়ে কোনো বিতর্ক নেই বলে মনে করেন ফারুক। তিনি বলেন, সাকিবের রেকর্ডই বলে দেয় অধিনায়ক হিসেবে সে অবশ্যই ‘অটোমেটিক চয়েস’।
মাশরাফি বিশ্বকাপে খেলতে পারবে বলে আশাবাদ ব্যক্ত করেন ফারুক। ফারুকের মতে, মাশরাফি খেলতে না পারলে তা হবে দলের জন্য একটা বড় আঘাত।
নিজে বাংলাদেশের প্রথম বিশ্বকাপ দলের অংশ হতে পারায় দারুণ গর্ব অনুভব করেন ফারুক আহমেদ। ফারুক তাঁর বিশ্বকাপ অভিজ্ঞতা বর্ণনা করতে গিয়ে বলেন, ‘নিরানব্বইয়ের বিশ্বকাপে খেলতে গিয়ে প্রতিটি মুহূর্তই দারুণ উপভোগ করেছি। স্কটল্যান্ড আর পাকিস্তানকে হারানো মধুরতম অভিজ্ঞতা[/বাংলা]

Baundule
January 13, 2011, 07:56 AM
A big NO with his current form. He is not emotionally strong enough to overcome the Siddons effect and not able to play confidently. So, he will just waste a position in the batting line up.

iamreza
January 13, 2011, 08:14 AM
I think he should play at number 6 and mushfiq at 3.
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Aahiyan
January 13, 2011, 08:26 AM
Yes

_Rafi_
January 13, 2011, 08:32 AM
50:50
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shakibrulz
January 13, 2011, 08:34 AM
No freaking way.

lamisa
January 13, 2011, 08:41 AM
are u crazy?it's the WC we are talking about,we can't play the match with 10 players when the opposition are playing with 13!(11+2umpires!)

Naimul_Hd
January 13, 2011, 08:50 AM
'না' ভোট !

খেলতে না পারলে অভিজ্ঞতা ধুইয়ে কি পানি খাব নাকি ? কনফিডেন্স লেভেল এর তলানি তে যেয়ে ঠেকছে এমন খেলোয়ার দরকার নাই !!!

alibangali
January 13, 2011, 09:07 AM
Yes but as a backup player.

shuziburo
January 13, 2011, 09:11 AM
He probably is the least accomplished cricketer in history among the ones playing 150+ ODIs. I would include Jaharul in his place in a heartbeat! Ex-captain-der sobar matha kharap hoichhe!!!

Zeeshan
January 13, 2011, 09:11 AM
Quoting myself from elsewhere:

Mohammad Ashraful has lately gone down the queer street as a journeyman. He may not be dazzling in their last encounter scoring only 8 runs but he was the chief architect in one of the subsequent World Cup match against South Africa. He has been kissing the canvas ever since but unlike the way he did so in Cardiff. However, cognizant of all the above mentioned worries, the temptation to not to use Ashraful - keeping knuckles crossed for an Eid innings- is just too great. He gets the cut if anything just for the intimidation factor and he comes down the order during Power Play overs.

roman
January 13, 2011, 09:14 AM
We need Ash but only if he bats at # 6-7. Big NO if they make him bat at #4. So I voted Yes...

ahnaf
January 13, 2011, 09:23 AM
Confused

shakibrulz
January 13, 2011, 09:27 AM
We need Ash but only if he bats at # 6-7. Big NO if they make him bat at #4. So I voted Yes...
Ash won't bat at 8. And his pathetic fielding and running itself might cost bd games.
He can carry drinks at best, and I'm feeling generous today.

Kabir
January 13, 2011, 09:29 AM
Is anyone else sick and tired of this same question over and over again? It's getting boring now. Ash chapter should have closed months ago.

al-Sagar
January 13, 2011, 09:39 AM
he could be a useful 12th man

magic boy
January 13, 2011, 09:50 AM
in an interview to ATN News shown today


Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

do the sum

mhj007
January 13, 2011, 09:52 AM
being 12th man he may start crying and use his tears as drinks for others..thats the most useful thing he is capable of doing right now..:-|

cricket_king
January 13, 2011, 10:02 AM
If it's between Rakibul and him, then I'm all for Ash.

Tiger444
January 13, 2011, 10:16 AM
in an interview to ATN News shown today


Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

do the sum

That's the reason why he should not be in the team. he just does not understand what's best for him and just wants to bat wherever he will have the chance to score the most. If he really understood his own game then he would try to revert to a #7 role by playing power shots and practice his bowling more. He still thinks after all these years he can bat in the top order still.
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irteja
January 13, 2011, 10:34 AM
Answer is HELL NO. Please for love of GOD No More Ashraful. Reason? here is some from the readers of Prothom_alo.

i m not agree with ur comment. just look at india they ignor to take dravid and irfan due to their present performance. Even Aftab is better choice than Ashraful. Actually he has given enough chance. No more we want Ashraful in the national team.

Experience doesn't mean just playing matches;experience means learning from mistakes.Ashraful has made the same mistakes everyday, every time. Even in the recently concluded Zimbabwe series, he played same

it would be very hard for bangladesh team to win if ASRAFUL is in the squad. bye ASRAFUL . . .. .

[বাংলা]ঠিক আছে। ফারুক যদিও দলের প্রয়োজনে আকরাম খানের মতো সামনে থেকে কখনোই নেত্বত্ব দেননি, তবুও তার মতামত গুরুত্বের সাথে নিতে হবে কারন তিনি অনেকদিন জাতীয় দলের অধিনায়ক ছিলেন, তার অভিজ্ঞতা অনস্বীকার্য। কিন্তু আশরাফুল কে নিয়ে তার মতামত কি সত্যিই বাস্তবসম্মত? আজ মাশরাফিকে যে কারনে দলে অন্তর্ভুক্ত করার দ্বিধা, সেই একই দ্বিধা আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে নেই কেন? আমাদের দেশে আশরাফুল সম্পর্কে একটি প্রবচন মিডিয়ার কোন কোন অংশ প্রচার করেন যে, "আশরাফুল খেললে দল জেতে"। আশরাফুল কে ছাড়া অনেক গুরত্বপূর্ন জয় বাংলাদেশের আসেনি? কেন বর্তমানে আত্মবিশ্বাস ঠিকরে বেরোনো বাংলাদেশ দলের উইনিং কম্বিনেশন ভেঙ্গে odd man আশরাফুল কে নিতেই হবে? যেহেতু বাংলাদেশে সকল নীতি নির্ধারনে কিছু পর্দার আড়ালের ঘটনা থাকে, তাই ক্রিকেট থেকে প্রায় অপসৃত আশরাফুলকে নিয়ে নতুন করে মাতামাতি কেন হচ্ছে তা নিয়ে আমরা সন্দিগ্ধ। কোন ক্ষমতাবান আশরাফুলকে রেসের ঘোড়া বানিয়ে বাজি ধরেছে?[/বাংলা]

I totally DISAGREE with the former captain of Bangladesh regarding the selection of Ashraful in world cup team or any other match. I admit only one thing that experience is a big asset for any game specially for world cup but you have to understand who can capitalize this experience or not. Ashraful got lot of opportunities in past but didnt learned that much. I believe any other batsman in the recent time can achieve more if he'd get the chance. The problem with Ashraful is lack of commitment, temperament and confidence(or sometimes over confident as he doesn't know what he is, as a result he threw his wicket). Hopefully the Selecting committee will shade some lights regarding this matter and exclude him from world cup and any other important match. BCCB should realize by now that he is a bad investment for the Bangladesh Cricket Team

Out of 7 matches he will score one half century and rest of the matches around 7-12 each. This type of experience is last thing Bangladesh team needs. Have seen enough of him.Get over it. He is nothing but bad news, besides current captain never wanted him in, lets not create problem at this stage.Keep him out. Thank you

It will be a big big mistake if he is in the world cup team. I guarantee Bangladesh team will perform very poorly if he is in the team. We have seen enough of him. We don't want to waste a position for another good player just for Ashraful. Don't take him, he will be a burden for the team.

We want Performer (And he must consistent) not an experienced campaigner...... Please Say NO to Ashraful.........

[বাংলা]আমি বলব ফারক ভাই, এবার আমাদের মুক্তি দিন। সেই সাথে বেচারা আশরাফুলকেও মুক্তি দিন। আশরাফুলের প্রতিভা আর অভিজ্ঞতার বস্তা পঁচা গুণকীর্তন আর শুনতে চাই না। আশরাফুলকে দলে রাখার পক্ষে যদি যুক্তি হয় দেয় শতাধিক ম্যাচ খেলার অভিজ্ঞতা তবে ৪৪৪ ম্যাচ খেলার অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পন্ন সনাৎ জয়সুরিয়া বিশ্বকাপ স্কোয়াড থেকে বাদ পড়ার ব্যাখ্যা আপনি কি দেবেন? কি দেবেন চামিন্ডা ভাস দল থেকে বাড় পড়ার ব্যাখ্যা?

আমাদের অভিজ্ঞতা আর প্রতিভার প্রয়োজন নেই। অভিজ্ঞতা আর প্রতিভার গল্প গত ১০ বছর শুনতে শুনতে আমরা ক্লান্ত। আমরা এবার পারফরমেন্স দেখতে চাই। প্রতিভাধর ও অভিজ্ঞ আশরাফুলের ১০ রানে আউট হওয়া থেকে প্রতিভা ও অভিজ্ঞতাহীন রকিবুলের ৩০ রান আমাদের জন্য অনেক গুরুত্বপূর্ণ। বিশ্বকাপের মতো বড় আসরে তাই আশরাফুলকে রেখে জুয়া খেলার কোন মানে নাই।[/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]হয়ত আশার ফুল ১০ মেচ জিতিয়েচে তবে ১৫০ মেচ খেলার পর![/বাংলা]

people who want ashraful should just read the logical things people have wrote against the inclusion of ash and deliver logical counterpoints instead of saying ash will win us the cup.inclusion based on consistent performance will take bangladesh to the next stage.ashraful will only hold the team back with his inconsistency.bangladesh won 4-0 without ashraful in the squad and we lost against holand with him in the team we lost against ireland under his captaincy.with ashraful in the squad the team seem to have a very negative week attitude and without him there is a great positive transformation.based only on results alone ashraful just is not good enough for the new bangladesh team.

Completely disagree with Mr. Faruque Ahmed. With all due respect, Mr Ahmed, experience of playing 150 matches brings along the responsibility of playing sensibly and with complete control, rather than throwing his wicket away. Look at his batting average as well. I don't know why in Bangladesh we consider him as a talented player.......talent should also reflect in his performance and in some cases, statistics, too, helps that claim. He is more of a fluke who occasionally plays well, not a talent. There is a huge difference between fluke and talent. Keeping him in the side means another easy wicket for the opponents. I would rather play Rakibul, who is a rather stable and level-headed, confident middle-order batsman than Ashraful. Or, we could always try Alok Kapali..........he is the one who can really slog in the power-plays towards the end, and his skills with part-time leg-spin might play a big role, specially against teams like West Indies, South Africa on a given day! I think at least for the World Cup, we should be thoroughly realistic rather than being emotional and making the same mistake of keeping Ashraful even in the squad. Look at SL team, they already got rid of time-test players like Jayasuriya and Vaas, which means, WC is serious business..........no time to show sympathy and emotions that will bring no result. :)

[বাংলা]ঠাট্টা নয়, সিরিয়াসলি বলছি, একটি জনপ্রিয় পত্রিকার পাতাতেই যদি আশরাফুলের প্রয়োজনীয়তা নিয়ে এই তীব্র বিরোধিতা দেখা যায়, (এখানে সবাই যে ক্রিকেট-অজ্ঞ তাতো হতে পারেনা), তাহলে মাঠে নেমে যদি খোদা-না-খাস্তা আশরাফুল পারফর্ম না করতে পারে, তাহলে যে কী হবে আমি ভাবতেও পারছিনা। যারা ভিভ রিচার্ডসের উক্তি ব্যবহার করে ক্লাস ইজ পার্মানেন্ট বলছেন, তাদের একথাও স্মরণ করিয়ে দিতে চাই, পেশাদারি ক্রিকেট জীবনে যদি পারফর্ম না করতে পারতো, তাহলে ভিভ তার সেই অননুকরণীয় ভঙ্গিতে এত বড় কথা বলতে পারতোনা। যেসব পাঠক বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট দলে প্রমানিত পারফর্মার ভেড়াতে পরামর্শ দিচ্ছেন, আমিও তাদের সাথে একমত। পারবে-পারবেনা-পারবে-পারবেনা জপতে জপতে কাউকে মাঠে নামানো খুব অন্যায় হবে। আমি আরেকটি কথা পরিষ্কার করে বলতে চাই, আমরা যারা আশরাফুলকে দলে নেয়ার বিরোধিতা করছি, তাদের কারোরই আশরাফুলের বিরুদ্ধে ব্যক্তিগত কোন ক্ষোভ নেই, অতএব, আশরাফুল যদি, বাই চান্স, আমাদের মন্তব্যগুলি পড়েন তবে আশা করি তা ব্যক্তিগত ভাবে নেবেন না (এর আগে দলে তাকে দ্বাদশ ব্যক্তি করায় তিনি যে আচরণ করেছিলেন তাতে, যে অভিজ্ঞতার ভিত্তিতে তাকে দলে নেয়ার কথা হচ্ছে, সেই অভিজ্ঞতা দেখা যায়নি)। প্রথম আলো কর্ত্বপক্ষের উচিৎ আশরাফুলের পক্ষে তাদের ষ্ট্যান্ড পরিবর্তন করা। [/বাংলা]

Habib
January 13, 2011, 10:37 AM
in an interview to ATN News shown today


Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

do the sum

What? His current position is no.3, isn't it?

Shehwar
January 13, 2011, 10:41 AM
Should he be in the squad? No
Do I want him in the squad? Yes
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abu2abu
January 13, 2011, 10:43 AM
No, he should be replaced by Kapali or Nafees. If we are going to have one of the previous lot in the side, it may as well be someone who has not had a decent run in the side.

Ash has had too many "second" chances and has proved nothing except his own inconsistency...

ahms
January 13, 2011, 10:50 AM
Ash should be given chance for warm-up matches until he develops some confidence before put him against any test team. Hence, I will pick him as 1 of 15, not necessarily as main XI.

magic boy
January 13, 2011, 10:57 AM
What? His current position is no.3, isn't it?

true that but bit confusing. his last 4 innings were at 4 , 6 , 6 , 4 position .though lets assume that as his role at 6/7 which he doesn't like to do ,instead interested to play at no-4.(according to TV interview)

mishu
January 13, 2011, 11:03 AM
No.

dolcevita
January 13, 2011, 11:20 AM
He should be included as a water boy
he is awful as a cricketer
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Night_wolf
January 13, 2011, 11:27 AM
no thanks

roman
January 13, 2011, 12:04 PM
Ash won't bat at 8. And his pathetic fielding and running itself might cost bd games.
He can carry drinks at best, and I'm feeling generous today.

I know he wont bat at #8 and he doesnt even deserve to be a waterboy but keep in mind we dont have a big hitter of the ball in our team. Ash MIGHT be a solution for our PP. And on top of that he is too big of a star to miss out a WC. Trust me, the selectors will be crucified if they dont pick Ash. Since they will pick him anyway might as well use him. But only for # 6-8

Habib
January 13, 2011, 12:24 PM
^Ashraful does not pocess the power to be a big hitter. Anyhow he could be used as a slogger, but even then he might be inconsistent.

dolcevita
January 13, 2011, 12:27 PM
I think he will be selected then fail in warm up , and shakib and tamim will not select him on playing 11
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Dilscoop
January 13, 2011, 12:35 PM
I voted NO. But if he bats at 6 or 7 in place or Riyad and Naeem, then yes. I don't want The Drama Queen or him at 4. I want Jahurul Islam or Rahim at 4. Shakib 5, 1 of Riyad/Naeem 6, Ash 7, Shuvo and the bowlers.

If Naeem plays Ash should bat at 6, if Riyad plays, Ash should bat at 7.

pagol-chagol
January 13, 2011, 12:37 PM
Evey one should shut up and let Shakib pick 15, 11 and coaches. He got more brain than all others combined,

Nadim
January 13, 2011, 12:48 PM
poll and discussion koira kuno luv na....duniya ultaia geleo Ash WC squad e thakbe and will be even in the starting 11 against India.
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Shamim Mia
January 13, 2011, 12:48 PM
why bangladesh fan dont like RaQibul Hasan, to me he is a great performer, much better than ashraful. do you want someone to be out scoring 10 runs or less or someone to stay in the crease and face 50 delivers and score 20 runs? i prefer 50 balls, do forget people him and shakib play reall well togerther, shakib does not like ashraful

al Furqaan
January 13, 2011, 12:59 PM
what does he mean by "current position (7)"...has siddons told him to bat at 7? siddons just said that rock and ash are battling for no.4 (horrible idea whoever wins).

if at 7, yes i fully support ash, since he has a better shot than anyone of putting up some quick runs. we'll need it because rock will likely be playing at 4.

i have a feeling our batting order will cost us heavily this world cup and it will be all siddons' fault.

Rabz
January 13, 2011, 01:23 PM
...and Ash still continues to reign supreme on the fans.
Like him or hate him, he is still the biggest star amongst the fans.
6 hours into this thread, already we are hitting 39 replies !!

Shocky
January 13, 2011, 02:21 PM
Faruk ashrafooler ki kono personal relation ase?
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AsifTheManRahman
January 13, 2011, 04:46 PM
Most of our ex-captains are douchebags. Losers. Sissies who used to lose to associates even at home.

No, Ashraful shouldn't be picked. We have better players now.

godzilla
January 13, 2011, 05:11 PM
I say yes at # 7. Either way he is still going to be selected in the 15 man squad regardless of what fans think. Him batting at 7 will let Rahim bat at Rock's place (eliminating the slow run rate when both Z and Rock are batting together). Addition of Ashraful also gives an extra part time bowler. Since Ryad and Naeem is not doing anything better in that position so might aswell push them at #6 and let ASH do (TRY) his hitting at #7.

Haru-party
January 13, 2011, 05:26 PM
:big_hug:why bangladesh fan dont like RaQibul Hasan, to me he is a great performer, much better than ashraful. do you want someone to be out scoring 10 runs or less or someone to stay in the crease and face 50 delivers and score 20 runs? i prefer 50 balls, do forget people him and shakib play reall well togerther, shakib does not like ashraful

Dilscoop
January 13, 2011, 06:03 PM
face 50 delivers and score 20 runs?

That's not a great way to defend Drama Queen imo. It's not gonna help his case. Specially in ODI

Dhakablues
January 13, 2011, 06:12 PM
He is being discussed because of pathetic batting powerplay execution Bangladesh team has shown in the recent games. Naeem was abysmal at best and absolutely clueless, forgot that fans used to call him Chokka Naem.. we better forget that beloved title. Riad was also slow and out of touch against quality and no-quality international bowling. He is performing now better and most likely will be in the 15 but again if you are thinking of a batting powerplay.... we have zero, I mean literally NO player who can play shots, find the gaps or hit clean like those moron As, (Al-Shahrier, Ashraful, Alok, Aftab). Naem/Riad can be 'useful' players but they are by none of them can play shots like the Alok/Ashraful and none of them has a game attached to them at world stage that can be recalled at Youtube..

One World
January 13, 2011, 06:34 PM
Most of our ex-captains are douchebags. Losers. Sissies who used to lose to associates even at home.

No, Ashraful shouldn't be picked. We have better players now.

Not in his position otherwise the question will not arise.

Tigers_eye
January 13, 2011, 06:55 PM
obhiggota'r proyojon asey!! Hahaha!!! De Villiers would refuse to play BD just because he is forever coined as Ash's bunny!!

I wish Ash well. Go get married. That is what is needed. The team would be fine in his absence. He wasn't there in NZ series. Now he was in the 3 wins against Zim.

I don't want other batsmen getting out because of him.

Rifat
January 13, 2011, 07:30 PM
Ashraful is doing o.k. in the current DPL, had a decent start but couple of bad scores ruined it and then again against Mohammedan he scored 88. so there is still that glimmer of hope people.

I tell ya what folks:

January 19th is the deadline for submitting final 15. cricket coaching school(the team Ashraful plays for still has a couple of matches before then, if he scores two 50+ innings i say he is in, if he flops in both matches then there is no point crying over spilled milk, he had his share of chances to get his form back!

Even if he is in, No way, No way he should be batting at #4/5...

He was only given one chance against Zimbabwe and that too against Shakib's(current influencial selector) decision. Before he was picked he had a good run in the NCL. So I am not gonna use that against him. However, had he played in all of the four matches against Zimbabwe he played and failed then there is no way I would include him back in the squad for the world cup, not even carrying drinks.

#7 is the ideal position for him

I voted no. I highly doubt he will deliver in the next two matches in DPL before the deadline.

cricadda
January 13, 2011, 08:37 PM
I think he should play at number 6 and mushfiq at 3.
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:100:% agreed...

cricket_pagol
January 13, 2011, 09:02 PM
World cup is the not place to experiment with team combination. So I don't see any place for Ashraful in the top order.

cricadda
January 13, 2011, 09:12 PM
i think he will be in 15 men squad.....i guess.

akabir77
January 13, 2011, 09:17 PM
nothing to guess he will be in 15.

munshi33
January 14, 2011, 12:19 AM
jayasuria and chaminda vass was dropped from srilankan wc squad bcoz they are not old bcos they are not in the form, so i would say a big no coz he is not in the form, i would rathar pic alok coz he is a big boost aganist INDIA also indian bowlers now him as crezy hiter from icl, so they will be always afraid to bowl him,and he can take advantage of it, any he is always very good aganist india, we need alok instead of ash and jahurul instead of raqibul, sabbir istead of mamudullah, naeem os ok

wasi90lkv1
January 14, 2011, 12:49 AM
bangladesh does not need ashraful at this point.

the playing xi should be like this:

tamim
imrul
junaed
shakib
mushfiqur
naeem
mahmudullah
shuvo
abdur razzak
shafiul
rubel.

i do not want raqibul in the team, mahmudullah may be a better option. mahmudullah can also bowl.

asdfjkl
January 14, 2011, 01:35 AM
Faruk Ahmed sounds like a loving mother, talking about all her children
No one can be discarded. One way or other everyone has to be accommodated.

ma_o_mati
January 14, 2011, 02:20 AM
Ashraful is no Shakib or Tamim, but he is much better one day player than Nayeem/Riyadh or Rokibul...we are so overawed by NZ Banglawash, but it was Shakib that became the difference between the two sides, nafees and shuvo played well, rubel/shafiul were good...but the rest of them were below par...

It's world cup and we need players who won us matches...I don't remember when was the last time that riyadh/ naeem/ or rokibul won us matches against tough opponents...

In the last t20 wc, ashraful nearly won us the match against pakistan...

I say play him at No. 07, down at the end...use him, dont waste him...if you plan to play him in the top order then don't play him...but he should be included instead of Naeem or Riyadh

ma_o_mati
January 14, 2011, 02:48 AM
Most of our ex-captains are douchebags. Losers. Sissies who used to lose to associates even at home.

No, Ashraful shouldn't be picked. We have better players now.

with all due respect to your personal opinion, I don't think that most of our ex-captains are douchebags....i think they know a bit more about our cricket than most of us here...

anyway, it is wise to know your strengths as well your weaknesses...

like you said, we've better players now...that's the problem....to be honest, except Shakib or Tamim, we don't have better players who can win us matches...

Imrul, I find him shaky, vulnerable against quality seam bowling....he will be tested against Zaheer, Steyn, etc....

Zunaid, a very good player but fails to play down the ground and gets caught...but this guy has a great level of maturity and might surpass Tamim one day

Raqibul...you talk about sissie, loser mentality...this guy is the perfect example...i donno what the hell is he doing in the team...and why they dont take Jahurul....how beautifully Jahurul batted against England

Riyadh or Nayeem...both are supposed to take advantage of the powerplays, but failed so many times....It really sucks to see blocking balls after balls during powerplays..

Mushfiq...he is doing fine with the bat...he can rotate strike, hit boundaries, build partnerships...

There are many problems with our batting...But Shakib's great performance hid the failure's of others...

If Shakib/ Tamim fails, then i dont think rokibul/ riyadh or nayeem can win us matches but with ashraful u never know...

Night_wolf
January 14, 2011, 03:37 AM
great post ma o mati vai but the prob is ash has mental fatigue..he will just go down and with him take the team...just take the instance of the 1st odi vs zim..got someone(zunaid may be) runout and after that got himself out immediately..and when it comes to rokibul believe me i am a rokibul hater myself but with due respect he is an awesome fielder..our fielding unit looks totally different with he and nayeem in the field..and on top of that shakib bats freely with him and wants rokib instead of ash in the team..Sakib isn't always right but most of the cases i saw he is more or less right..so i think we'll have to trust our best cricketer in this..

lamisa
January 14, 2011, 03:53 AM
ashraful squade thakbe eita ami likhe dilam

Night_wolf
January 14, 2011, 03:55 AM
^eta to amra sobai e jani:)

M.H.Rubel
January 14, 2011, 06:00 AM
1.Tamim
2.Ik
3.SN/JUNAID
4.Rock
5.SAH
6.Mushy
7.Naeem/Riyad
8.Shuvo
9.Razzak
10.Shafiul
11.Pacer
_ _ _ _ _
14.Pace
So still i can see a place is vacant.It ll be replaced either by pacer or by a batsman.So why not Ash?
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_Rafi_
January 15, 2011, 07:35 AM
Khaled Mahmud's view- (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-01-15/news/123704)
[বাংলা]গত বৃহস্পতিবার প্রথম আলো অনলাইনের সঙ্গে আলাপচারিতায় বাংলাদেশের সাবেক অধিনায়ক ও প্রধান নির্বাচক ফারুক আহমেদ বিশ্বকাপ দলে মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুলের অভিজ্ঞতার প্রয়োজনীয়তার ওপর গুরুত্বারোপ করেছিলেন। আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে ফারুকের সঙ্গেই গলা মেলালেন খালেদ মাহমুদ। তিনি বলেন, ‘আমি ফারুক ভাইয়ের সঙ্গে একমত। কোনো সন্দেহ নেই আশরাফুল বাংলাদেশের অন্যতম সেরা খেলোয়াড়। একজন অভিজ্ঞ খেলোয়াড়। তাঁর বিশ্বকাপ দলে থাকা উচিত।’ খালেদ মাহমুদ মনে করেন, আশরাফুলকে ব্যাটিং পজিশনের চার নম্বরে না খেলিয়ে ৬ নম্বরে খেলানো উচিত। এর ব্যাখ্যা হিসেবে তিনি বলেন, ‘আশরাফুলকে চাপমুক্ত করে, নিজের খেলাটাই খেলতে দেওয়া উচিত। চার নম্বরে ব্যাটিংয়ে নামলে ও সব সময় চাপে থাকে। কিন্তু ছয় নম্বরে নামলে সে তাঁর নিজের খেলাটা খেলতে পারবে। ছয় নম্বর ব্যাটসম্যান সাধারণভাবে ২৫ ওভারের পর মাঠে নামে। সে সময় নতুন বল নেওয়া হয়। বল শক্ত থাকে। মারতে সুবিধা হয়। তা ছাড়া সে সময় পাওয়ার প্লেরও সম্ভাবনা থাকে।[/বাংলা]’

Purna
January 15, 2011, 07:51 AM
Nahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii........................ .........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Banglaguy
January 15, 2011, 08:27 AM
I think ash should go play baseball...

Ashfaq
January 15, 2011, 09:23 AM
Ashraful is no Shakib or Tamim, but he is much better one day player than Nayeem/Riyadh or Rokibul...we are so overawed by NZ Banglawash, but it was Shakib that became the difference between the two sides, nafees and shuvo played well, rubel/shafiul were good...but the rest of them were below par...

It's world cup and we need players who won us matches...I don't remember when was the last time that riyadh/ naeem/ or rokibul won us matches against tough opponents...

In the last t20 wc, ashraful nearly won us the match against pakistan...

I say play him at No. 07, down at the end...use him, dont waste him...if you plan to play him in the top order then don't play him...but he should be included instead of Naeem or Riyadh


Dude, everybody is entitles to their opinion when it comes to Ashraful and his relative worth to the side. But to to forget the contribution of Riyad or Naeem or Roqibul is a tad ungrateful.

Let me refresh your memory. Naeem is the only Bangladeshi player who can claim to have reclaimed a match completely single-handedly. Remember his 71* against Zim? That was the first time I saw a BD XI coming back from the dead.

Also, I remember Riyad led us to win against the Windies in the second-third ODI and who can forget his fifer in the second innings of the first test ? Lastly, if it weren't for Roqibul we might have lost the first test against Windies too.

I don't particularly like Roqibul or Naeem, But they are a greater contributor than Ashraful that's for sure.

akabir77
January 15, 2011, 07:02 PM
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I don't particularly like Roqibul or Naeem, But they are a greater contributor than Ashraful that's for sure.

sorry they are not. showing some test stat doesn't make these players better odi players...

What ash did was far far better then what they did... remember the win we got after 4/8 years was also because of his quick fire... beside when he scored runs rest of the bd players were still in diapers. so don't say some runs against WEEK WI and ZIMBABWE is better that score against Australia, SA, Full strength Zimbabwe and so on... show respect where due.

Rifat
January 15, 2011, 07:16 PM
To some of the new members here:

perhaps (re) visiting this article/thread would serve as a reminder to everyone, how much of an IDOL this Ashraful guy was back in 2007 :)

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=22157&highlight=flag+bearer

Tiger444
January 15, 2011, 07:24 PM
sorry they are not. showing some test stat doesn't make these players better odi players...

What ash did was far far better then what they did... remember the win we got after 4/8 years was also because of his quick fire... beside when he scored runs rest of the bd players were still in diapers. so don't say some runs against WEEK WI and ZIMBABWE is better that score against Australia, SA, Full strength Zimbabwe and so on... show respect where due.

Agreed. Let's not compare Ash with Rock/Riyad/Naeem in terms of match winning innings. Ash has played match winning innings against top quality opposition. Let's not forget also the match winning innings against WI who are a very dangerous T20 side. Those innings did get us on the cricket map for sure. Those innings were also not lucky by any means. He batted wonderfully. So wonderfully that it just blew away not only our fans but cricket fans in general.

That's why I just get frustrated with Ash as all of us are. He has so much potential and such great ability but he just has not been successful for a lot of reasons. It's either a very impressive score or a single digit score that makes the innings completely collapse. As we all know he fails a lot more then succeeds. We need more consistent players then Ash. You just can't simply have a top order batsman that's so inconsistent.

Rock/Naeem/Riyad still are not match winners at this level and still have a ways to go before they can be match winners. They are however more consistent. So that's something to build on. They have played some good innings as well in their career. We have to be patient with these players and hope that they can turn out to be good players for us.

Ananna
January 16, 2011, 12:02 AM
sorry they are not. showing some test stat doesn't make these players better odi players...

What ash did was far far better then what they did... remember the win we got after 4/8 years was also because of his quick fire... beside when he scored runs rest of the bd players were still in diapers. so don't say some runs against WEEK WI and ZIMBABWE is better that score against Australia, SA, Full strength Zimbabwe and so on... show respect where due.

I completely agree.
Although I am not sure at this point whether Ash should be included in the team or not but there is no denying about Ashs' contribution for the team (even though they were in the distant past). How can we forget those innings against Australia and SA?

Naimul_Hd
January 16, 2011, 01:16 AM
To some of the new members here:

perhaps (re) visiting this article/thread would serve as a reminder to everyone, how much of an IDOL this Ashraful guy was back in 2007 :)

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=22157&highlight=flag+bearer

time changes my friend, so does people's perception. Now we all are going gaga over Shakib/Tamim. Who knows, 5 years down the road we wont ask for their head... :smug:

Naimul_Hd
January 16, 2011, 01:18 AM
বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটে যুগ-সন্ধিক্ষণের কাণ্ডারি হাবিবুল বাশার আরও বলেন, ‘অনেক দর্শক-সমর্থকই আশরাফুলের দলে অন্তর্ভুক্তি নিয়ে নানা রকম সমালোচনা করলেও তাঁদের একটু নিরাবেগী হতে হবে। ঠান্ডা মাথায় চিন্তা করে দেখতে হবে দলে একজন অভিজ্ঞ খেলোয়াড় হিসেবে আশরাফুলের প্রয়োজনীয়তা। অতীতে অভিজ্ঞ খেলোয়াড়দের বাদ দিয়ে আমরা অনেক আফসোস করেছি, আর করতে চাই না। বাংলাদেশের বর্তমান দলটি খুব ভালো হলেও এতে বিশ্বকাপ খেলা খেলোয়াড় মাত্র তিনজন। আশরাফুল দুটি বিশ্বকাপ খেলেছে। বিশ্বকাপের মতো বড় আসরে আশরাফুলের অভিজ্ঞতা খুবই প্রয়োজন।’

প্রথম আলোকে হাবিবুল বাশার (http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-01-16/news/123974)

ahnaf
January 16, 2011, 01:42 AM
To some of the new members here:

perhaps (re) visiting this article/thread would serve as a reminder to everyone, how much of an IDOL this Ashraful guy was back in 2007 :)

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=22157&highlight=flag+bearer
somoy koto taratari shob bodle dey..

crikss
January 16, 2011, 02:32 AM
NO................Ashraful is history

lamisa
January 16, 2011, 10:06 AM
^^^he still has a lot of criket left in him but sadly enough,not enough brains...

ma_o_mati
January 17, 2011, 12:50 AM
Dude, everybody is entitles to their opinion when it comes to Ashraful and his relative worth to the side. But to to forget the contribution of Riyad or Naeem or Roqibul is a tad ungrateful.

Let me refresh your memory. Naeem is the only Bangladeshi player who can claim to have reclaimed a match completely single-handedly. Remember his 71* against Zim? That was the first time I saw a BD XI coming back from the dead.

Also, I remember Riyad led us to win against the Windies in the second-third ODI and who can forget his fifer in the second innings of the first test ? Lastly, if it weren't for Roqibul we might have lost the first test against Windies too.

I don't particularly like Roqibul or Naeem, But they are a greater contributor than Ashraful that's for sure.

ok, i won't refer to you as Dude...Sir Ashfaq, if you read my post, I clearly mentioned tougher opponents....and we are talking about world cup not any test series....so pointing toward test stats doesn't make any sense....

but you ended the argument when you said roqibul and naeem are greater contributor than Ashraful...Really?...as everyone already knows, Ashraful won us matches against Australia, South Africa, West Indies(t20 full strengthened squad), Sri Lanka...

Riyadh and naeem are both bits and pieces player and we have lost so many games from a good position for Riyadh's selfishness batting and Naeem's inability to hit the ball during the powerplay...

Had it not been for Ashraful's fearless batting...we might not have seen this new generation of players such as Tamim, Shakib, Shuvo...

If Naeem, Riyadh, Rokibul were that good, we wouldn't be in this debacle or having this conversation...

I hope they prove me wrong, as I wish them the bestest success

Jadukor
January 17, 2011, 01:41 AM
i share the same sentiments with ma_o_mati

Riyad/Naeem have not done anything to cement their place... we have too many players who can play secondary to a great player but cannot take control of the game on their own... Kaes can play supporting role to Tamim if Tamim fires... can he push the run rate himself to 5-6 an over?
Riyad, Naeem both can rotate the strike given that Shakib is with them to hit the boundaries... Can either of these two do it on their own? These are the question that bugs me... Naeem's last notable performance was that match winning innings against zim...but that was long ago and he hasn't reproduced anything significant since... his ugliest performance was against the afghans where our national pride was at stake after the comments made by Rashid Latif... Thankfully we had a kid named Shabbir with some balls...and he rescued us from a hopeless position.

BANFAN
January 17, 2011, 05:30 AM
If this is a comparison between Nayeem, Riyad, Johirul, Rokibul, Junaid, Alok ......... and Ash.
It's uneven and unfair comparison. Ash is way way ahead from anyone of them.

Problem is Nayeem's 20 makes people happy and Ash needs a century to match that. Why?
Get your anti Ash minds out for the interest of the team.

I'm not yet sure if Ash will be in the team in every combination, so just waiting to see the list coming out.

irteja
January 17, 2011, 05:36 AM
There is no place for Ashraful and Rokibul in the team.

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line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:Vrinda; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> 1. Tamim Iqbal,

2. Imrul Kayes,

3. Shahriar Nafees,

4. Mushfiqur Rahim,

5. Shakib Al Hasan,

6. Mahmudullah,

7. Naeem Islam,

8. Abdur Razzak,

9. Mashrafe Mortaza,
10. Shafiul Islam,

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akabir77
January 17, 2011, 12:55 PM
There is no place for Ashraful and Rokibul in the team.

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you forgot to say in irteja's team:D

Rabz
January 17, 2011, 01:42 PM
I dont see any point of this debate.
He will be there, Inshallah.
Period.

auntu
January 17, 2011, 02:46 PM
Most of our ex-captains are douchebags. Losers. Sissies who used to lose to associates even at home.

No, Ashraful shouldn't be picked. We have better players now.
Can't agree more.

view360
January 17, 2011, 03:09 PM
ইতিহাস বলে যে ,এক আকস্মিক বজ্রপাত ব্যতিত মতিন মিয়ার খেলা কেউ আটকাতে পারবে না। সে অমর।

dolcevita
January 17, 2011, 03:22 PM
He will be selected , hope shak don't select him in playing 11
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Dhakablues
January 17, 2011, 04:36 PM
And that moron just scored another 85!! He always does that,,whenver he is out of the team, he will start scoring runs and gets back into the team with his performance and starts to contemplate on his batting techniques in slow motion whilst bowler is bowling real-time...!!

PoorFan
January 17, 2011, 11:58 PM
Sometime I wonder if that moron gets some special favor from local umpires.:-p

Murad
January 18, 2011, 12:06 AM
And that moron just scored another 85!! He always does that,,whenver he is out of the team, he will start scoring runs and gets back into the team with his performance and starts to contemplate on his batting techniques in slow motion whilst bowler is bowling real-time...!!

He was in good form in domestic league before the Zimbabwe series. But he got only one chance against them which was really unfair.

When you let someone make a comeback, you give him at-least two games to prove him.

munnabhai
January 18, 2011, 12:17 AM
Ashraful will be selected whether you like it or not. I voted No.

munnabhai
January 18, 2011, 12:19 AM
Ashraful will be selected whether you like it or not. But, it will create problem in Shakib's performance, the captain doesn't want Ashraful in the side, he has made his intentions very clear, he prefers Rakib over Ashraful, he has every right to have his say in team selection. If Ashraful comes back, Tamim will get out cheaply, have you guys forgotten the runouts Ashrafool caused. Please Bring Ashraful, take one wicket and get the other free. Opposition would love to have a ball at him.

max410
January 18, 2011, 12:28 AM
That's the reason why he should not be in the team. he just does not understand what's best for him and just wants to bat wherever he will have the chance to score the most. If he really understood his own game then he would try to revert to a #7 role by playing power shots and practice his bowling more. He still thinks after all these years he can bat in the top order still.
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As if he is educated enough to understand this statement he may have played 150+ matches but who gave him all these chances BCB gave him most chances compared to other players BCb has been very kind to him to give him chance he is just taking advantage to make money . He is not a talented player at all FLUKE win can happen in cricket. Better Give Rokibul a chance or even Jahurul islam a chance BD is a much better team without Ashraful.
Why is BCB doing so much lobbing its not helping the team anyways.
ASH should retire so he can hold his so called glory and honor among the fans.
I hope shakib does not take him in the squad this is going to be huge mistake he will play the first match and throw his wicket and he will have nothing to do but retire.

max410
January 18, 2011, 12:33 AM
Ashraful will be selected whether you like it or not. But, it will create problem in Shakib's performance, the captain doesn't want Ashraful in the side, he has made his intentions very clear, he prefers Rakib over Ashraful, he has every right to have his say in team selection. If Ashraful comes back, Tamim will get out cheaply, have you guys forgotten the runouts Ashrafool caused. Please Bring Ashraful, take one wicket and get the other free. Opposition would love to have a ball at him.

all ash needs to do is throw his wicket like he does in the first match and loose the match for BD that's it then he is gone no more *** ever . There is a saying in English No matter how much u lie u have to keep on lying to cover the truth but one day people will definitely know the truth.
The Truth is ASH ain't a good player at all neither he is talented. If dav whatmore taught me how to bat and if i get chances to play 150+ odi's i can do better than ASH too in fact anyone who has brains to understand proper cricket can do it.

PoorFan
January 18, 2011, 12:49 AM
He was in good form in domestic league before the Zimbabwe series. But he got only one chance against them which was really unfair.

When you let someone make a comeback, you give him at-least two games to prove him.
In that one chance he contributed single digit runs + one run out ... And he has done it umpteenth time. ... that is called 'really unfair' to the team.

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:00 AM
He was in good form in domestic league before the Zimbabwe series. But he got only one chance against them which was really unfair.
Murad has scored 100/100 :up:



When you let someone make a comeback, you give him at-least two games to prove him.
0/100 as "that someone" should get at least 3 games, preferably 5 games to prove ...

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:05 AM
Now, per performance, does Ash deserves a seat in the cool 15? No (IMHO, though I am fan of the fool!) :-p

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:09 AM
Obviously by now he knows he is in the squad, he should start prepping for power play style batting.....
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Murad
January 18, 2011, 01:12 AM
In that one chance he contributed single digit runs + one run out ... And he has done it umpteenth time. ... that is called 'really unfair' to the team.

Well you should blame the selectors for that. He wasn't ready to make a comeback but the selectors thought otherwise. He was/is very low in confidence. And he doesn't deserve a place in the world cup squad as well.

This is what I believe, when you give someone a chance to make a comeback, then give him at-least two chance. Be it Ashraful/Kapali/Faisal or whoever it is.

PoorFan
January 18, 2011, 01:13 AM
Now, per performance, does Ash deserves a seat in the cool 15? No (IMHO, though I am fan of the fool!) :-p
Unfortunately he does, a fair system we should live with. I dont like to see him in cool 15, but yet I have to say, yes. He earned it again.

Murad
January 18, 2011, 01:14 AM
Murad has scored 100/100 :up:



0/100 as "that someone" should get at least 3 games, preferably 5 games to prove ...

Tar mane ami fail korsi? ;) First game e century 2nd game e :duck: lolz

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:19 AM
Obviously by now he knows he is in the squad, he should start prepping for power play style batting.....

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It all depends on the team MGT how Ash might perform in the WC - certainly Ash is not suitable for two or three down, but for five or six down accroding to recent performances. If he bats lower, he might able to creats some magical performances in the WC :)

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:24 AM
Well you should blame the selectors for that. He wasn't ready to make a comeback but the selectors thought otherwise. He was/is very low in confidence. And he doesn't deserve a place in the world cup squad as well.

This is what I believe, when you give someone a chance to make a comeback, then give him at-least THREE chance. Be it Ashraful/Kapali/Faisal or whoever it is.
Smart men think alike!!!;)

rinathq
January 18, 2011, 01:24 AM
Well u can't really create " magic" in 6, 7th position.... He just needs to hit confidently that's all.... If he can score anything above 25, over 100 strik rate, it will boost our chances of winning match... Also he can be used 2-3 overs of bowling if needed
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kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:25 AM
Tar mane ami fail korsi? ;) First game e century 2nd game e :duck: lolz
Murad, upni to India rey hariye 100 marchhen, er ki chai!?

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 01:28 AM
Well u can't really create " magic" in 6, 7th position.... He just needs to hit confidently that's all.... If he can score anything above 25, over 100 strik rate, it will boost our chances of winning match... Also he can be used 2-3 overs of bowling if needed

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Yes, I ment winning matches and then the cup. :)

WarWolf
January 18, 2011, 01:39 AM
It's funny that we talk these days about keeping him pressure less. We talk about experience because experience allows someone to take pressure easily. On the contrary we want to keep our most senior batsman pressure less so that he can score some runs.