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Fazal
January 18, 2011, 04:14 PM
He is indeeed selected.

al Furqaan
January 18, 2011, 05:10 PM
LOL, great thread. even better title: something for everyone.

While one cannot really argue against his exclusion, I think it will be a bad move, and if the likes of Junaid, Rock, and Riyad all get selected or even if any 2 of those 3 get selected (100% likely), mark my word Bangladesh will struggle in the batting powerplay. 250 totals will become 220. 280 totals will become 240.

Disclaimer: if ash gets picked and is slotted in #4...all bets are off.

Anher
January 18, 2011, 05:14 PM
Ash never lose. Never. He is our Chuck Norris. Dont fk with chuck. Finger crossed for tomorrow.

Nadim
January 18, 2011, 05:15 PM
Fazal Mamuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu:fire:

etodin chilen koi?
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Aahiyan
January 18, 2011, 05:18 PM
He will make it guys. We need him.

Tokai
January 18, 2011, 05:19 PM
If prothom-alo's speculation is true, and there is actually a talk about dropping Ash to make room for Alok, it WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY OF BANGLADESH CRICKET.

I do not care much about Ash getting a chance or not, but comparing him with Alok is like comparing Boltz with lula pagla.

hoodlum
January 18, 2011, 05:43 PM
Whatever it is...tired of seeing this fool over and over again...certainly want to see Alok in the team in place of ash...dont care if it's a sad day of our cricket or not..

Aahiyan
January 18, 2011, 05:49 PM
If prothom-alo's speculation is true, and there is actually a talk about dropping Ash to make room for Alok, it WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY OF BANGLADESH CRICKET.

I do not care much about Ash getting a chance or not, but comparing him with Alok is like comparing Boltz with lula pagla.

Agree with u.

al Furqaan
January 18, 2011, 05:54 PM
If prothom-alo's speculation is true, and there is actually a talk about dropping Ash to make room for Alok, it WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY OF BANGLADESH CRICKET.

I do not care much about Ash getting a chance or not, but comparing him with Alok is like comparing Boltz with lula pagla.

that would be more retarded than Ash's batting. no idea how alok comes into the equation.

RazabQ
January 18, 2011, 06:20 PM
Al, actually on the few innings I've seen of both of late, Alok is playing more correctly. He makes a conscious attempt to play straight initially and his strokes pack more power. Plus he will be mentally more ready to play at a 6 or 7 compared to Ash. I believe longer term this might be the best thing for Ash. He'll realize that just dominating local leagues and then trying cutesy dabs and paddles will NOT work for him. He'll realize he has to develop SOME form of batting plan.

SS
January 18, 2011, 06:29 PM
Al, actually on the few innings I've seen of both of late, Alok is playing more correctly. He makes a conscious attempt to play straight initially and his strokes pack more power. Plus he will be mentally more ready to play at a 6 or 7 compared to Ash. I believe longer term this might be the best thing for Ash. He'll realize that just dominating local leagues and then trying cutesy dabs and paddles will NOT work for him. He'll realize he has to develop SOME form of batting plan.

Words from the sage RazabQ...to the point ....the batting plan he never developed even after we all changed our expectations from him...he was relieved from the duty, from the main batting task, from the change bowler...still the bad patch continued...in this world people generally do not get that many chances...who will dissect his brain!

Tiger444
January 18, 2011, 06:31 PM
Al, actually on the few innings I've seen of both of late, Alok is playing more correctly. He makes a conscious attempt to play straight initially and his strokes pack more power. Plus he will be mentally more ready to play at a 6 or 7 compared to Ash. I believe longer term this might be the best thing for Ash. He'll realize that just dominating local leagues and then trying cutesy dabs and paddles will NOT work for him. He'll realize he has to develop SOME form of batting plan.

Great post as always razab bhai. I feel the problem that ash has is that he bats with no plan in domestics and then goes in to international cricket doing the same. He needs to try and implement some different strategies in domestics and try those things in int cricket. All our batsmen should try to play different types of innings in domestics soi they can be successful in int cricket.
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SS
January 18, 2011, 06:34 PM
Great post as always razab bhai. I feel the problem that ash has is that he bats with no plan in domestics and then goes in to international cricket doing the same. He needs to try and implement some different strategies in domestics and try those things in int cricket. All our batsmen should try to play different types of innings in domestics soi they can be successful in int cricket.
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He actually has plans drafted by his mentors...but he is not a good executor with brain...talent is there but no thinking of how to utilize the talent which results this fate

al Furqaan
January 18, 2011, 06:58 PM
Al, actually on the few innings I've seen of both of late, Alok is playing more correctly. He makes a conscious attempt to play straight initially and his strokes pack more power. Plus he will be mentally more ready to play at a 6 or 7 compared to Ash. I believe longer term this might be the best thing for Ash. He'll realize that just dominating local leagues and then trying cutesy dabs and paddles will NOT work for him. He'll realize he has to develop SOME form of batting plan.

always seems to be something wrong. first its the airey cover drives and now its the paddle/dabs. frustrating as hell to watch.

nonetheless, alok hasn't done anything at either NCL or DPL level to warrant a call up. in the NCL his average was lower than aftab's! and had a poorer strike rate. why not call aftab up for lower middle order as no one can match his big hitting power?

alok - for his middle overs strike rotation and PP abilities - is a good fit down the order, but not ahead of ash.

but maybe ur right. this might be the lesson for ash that he can't just use a few domestic knocks to wiggle back into the team. although i'm almost certain he could win us a big game next month if selected. can't say that i have the same expectation for alok.

beshideshi
January 18, 2011, 07:18 PM
Choosing between Ash and Alok is like picking between two rotten bananas. The difference is, one has been rotten for 6 months and the other was never edible to begin with.

AsifTheManRahman
January 18, 2011, 07:23 PM
Jahirul wouldn't be a bad reserve option for #4. If we play Mushy there, we don't have to pick Raqibul.

Ash should be replaced by a pacer. We're a tad short in that department.

Some of the guys in the lower order need to man up and hit. I don't think Alok's done enough to be in the team, but if he's picked and batting at #6/#7, he might actually come in pretty handy. Plus he's got his leggies too.

mafizraju
January 18, 2011, 07:25 PM
No matter how big of a fan I am of Alok, I cannot accept the interference of BCB 'Technical committee' in team selection. On principle this is absolutely ridiculous. Selectors have to be free to choose their team. And once the team is chosen it should be upto the team management to decide whom to play in the final 11. There is absolutely no reason why technical committee needs to decide on this. Both Kalerkantha and Prothom-alo report mentioned about these interference. Lotta and his board members are making a mess !!! And this is not the first time !

AsifTheManRahman
January 18, 2011, 07:28 PM
No matter how big of a fan I am of Alok, I cannot accept the interference of BCB 'Technical committee' in team selection. On principle this is absolutely ridiculous. Selectors have to be free to choose their team. And once the team is chosen it should be upto the team management to decide whom to play in the final 11. There is absolutely no reason why technical committee needs to decide on this. Both Kalerkantha and Prothom-alo report mentioned about these interference. Lotta and his board members are making a mess !!! And this is not the first time !
Ideally, yes. But if it helps us field the best possible XI, then I'm all for it. The selectors and the management don't seem to know what's best for the team anyways.

mafizraju
January 18, 2011, 07:32 PM
And the great Chacha is saying that Mash is not in the team since Captain and some members of the coach do not like him ? I mean wth? This is just a tournament. We all agree including Mash that he does not have much career left in him if he gets injured again. So it is normal that you will want to give him enough time to be rehabilated and get well, get his rythm and fitness back. Right before the latest injury he was just about to come back to the form, and that is after few games. We do not really have that options here. It is not that we are going to win the world cup. a 70 percent Mash is no better than a 100% Rubel. So it is more pragmatic to wait for mash to get well, that will serve in the long run, instead of putting so much pressure on him to get well!!

mafizraju
January 18, 2011, 07:35 PM
Ideally, yes. But if it helps us field the best possible XI, then I'm all for it. The selectors and the management don't seem to know what's best for the team anyways.


Come on Asif ! So their freedom is conditional, and more interestingly, conditional upon our (or technical committee's) approval of their supposed rightness !! If they are not good enough why keep them at the first place? this is really absurd. Alok has done nothing that justifies his place! Although ideally I would love to see him in that position.

AsifTheManRahman
January 18, 2011, 07:45 PM
Come on Asif ! So their freedom is conditional, and more interestingly, conditional upon our (or technical committee's) approval of their supposed rightness !! If they are not good enough why keep them at the first place? this is really absurd. Alok has done nothing that justifies his place! Although ideally I would love to see him in that position.
LOL yeah, this is Bangladesh, not many people deserve unconditional freedom. Everyone must be *whipped* on a regular basis. A dedicated dictator is what we need to be able to solve most of our problems. But that's a different issue for a different thread.

I don't think Alok has done enough either, which is why I suggested what I did a few posts ago. I'd rather have the best players represent us and couldn't care less about the freedom of the selectors/management. This is the world cup and everyone must be *whipped* until we win it.

Tiger444
January 18, 2011, 07:47 PM
Jahirul wouldn't be a bad reserve option for #4. If we play Mushy there, we don't have to pick Raqibul.

Ash should be replaced by a pacer. We're a tad short in that department.

Some of the guys in the lower order need to man up and hit. I don't think Alok's done enough to be in the team, but if he's picked and batting at #6/#7, he might actually come in pretty handy. Plus he's got his leggies too.

Jahurul hasn't done enough to be called in to the WC in my opinion. So I wouldn't have him in there. I agree on having an extra pacer in there instead of ash. Since our pace attack isn't the strongest we should have some depth there. I would rather have shabbir there though instead of alok. He's done better then him in domestics and he bowls leggies as well. Wouldn't be a bad wildcard to have in the team.
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Purbasha T
January 18, 2011, 07:50 PM
What time?

wiseshah
January 18, 2011, 08:19 PM
Jahurul hasn't done enough to be called in to the WC in my opinion. So I wouldn't have him in there. I agree on having an extra pacer in there instead of ash. Since our pace attack isn't the strongest we should have some depth there. I would rather have shabbir there though instead of alok. He's done better then him in domestics and he bowls leggies as well. Wouldn't be a bad wildcard to have in the team.

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agree with everything.

wiseshah
January 18, 2011, 08:27 PM
if ash plays at number 7, then i want him in the team, otherwise not

i think if we drop shuvo (whose bowling is ok, but he doesnt have batting position--he is like javed omar in power play)--may be sabbir (offspin) or alok (leg spin) can replace him

in my opinion, we should drop either junaed or rokibul to reduce the squad and make it 15
mash should be in the team, if he doesnt appear fit, then we can replace him with either shahadat or najmul

so my XV


tamim
kayes
shahriar nafees (junaed)
mushfiq +
riad
shakib
naeem
ashraful (sabbir)
razzaq
shafiul
rubel (mash-if he is fit/najmul)

extra: either rokibul/shuvo (only one)

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 08:57 PM
If prothom-alo's speculation is true, and there is actually a talk about dropping Ash to make room for Alok, it WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY OF BANGLADESH CRICKET.

I do not care much about Ash getting a chance or not, but comparing him with Alok is like comparing Boltz with lula pagla.

that would be more retarded than Ash's batting. no idea how alok comes into the equation.

And if the news is true, I QUIT (watching) Bangla cricket, period









Please don't request me to stay!

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 09:13 PM
Jahirul wouldn't be a bad reserve option for #4. If we play Mushy there, we don't have to pick Raqibul.

Ash should be replaced by a pacer. We're a tad short in that department.

Some of the guys in the lower order need to man up and hit. I don't think Alok's done enough to be in the team, but if he's picked and batting at #6/#7, he might actually come in pretty handy. Plus he's got his leggies too.
Being agreed, I do NOT see any reason why Alok should be picked inplace of Ash. Ash could play at #6 and could be more effective than Alok who knows!?

Though, per recent performance, Ash do NOT deserves a place in the kool 15, IMHO .

Zeeshan
January 18, 2011, 09:14 PM
lol yeah, this is bangladesh, not many people deserve unconditional freedom. Everyone must be *whipped* on a regular basis. A dedicated dictator is what we need to be able to solve most of our problems. but that's a different issue for a different thread.

i don't think alok has done enough either, which is why i suggested what i did a few posts ago. I'd rather have the best players represent us and couldn't care less about the freedom of the selectors/management. This is the world cup and everyone must be *whipped* until we win it.

we demand that thread!

Night_wolf
January 18, 2011, 09:19 PM
talent can take u to this far..and sir ash has reached that boundary

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 09:19 PM
Alok has done nothing that justifies his place! Although ideally I would love to see him in that position.
Ditto. If Alok gets a call so should Ash. Though, both of them do NOT deserve to be in the final 15

roman
January 18, 2011, 09:30 PM
I would take Ash/Alok in place of Rokib. Rokib is not suitable for ODI. Why is it so difficult to understand....

Zobair
January 18, 2011, 09:36 PM
Howz Alok's leg-spin coming along? A specialist leggie who is a handy bat at 6/7 would add variety to our spin contingent. India appears to have done the same by including Piyush Chawla in their squad even though Chawla hasn't featured in ODIs for quite a while.

Tiger444
January 18, 2011, 09:38 PM
I would take Ash/Alok in place of Rokib. Rokib is not suitable for ODI. Why is it so difficult to understand....

I don't understand how either should be in there bro. Ash will bat at #4 if he's in the team no matter what. Over the last 2 years he's been worse then rokib in avg and this year in SR even. Alok also with his domestic peformance should not be included in the squad. Some of the innings he's played are just embarrassing in the DPL. Rock should not be in the playing XI either but ash/alok should definitely not be there.
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roman
January 18, 2011, 09:46 PM
I don't understand how either should be in there bro. Ash will bat at #4 if he's in the team no matter what. Over the last 2 years he's been worse then rokib in avg and this year in SR even. Alok also with his domestic peformance should not be included in the squad. Some of the innings he's played are just embarrassing in the DPL. Rock should not be in the playing XI either but ash/alok should definitely not be there.

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Bro I dont want none of them for #4 position. I want Mushy to bat there which I have been stating for the last few days in different threads. Our top order will be ok if we can just remove Rok with Mushy. Ash/ Alok if selected should only be considered for BPP . But lets all wait till we get the final XV. who knows maybe both Ash and Alok will be out of the final 15..

Tiger444
January 18, 2011, 09:57 PM
Bro I dont want none of them for #4 position. I want Mushy to bat there which I have been stating for the last few days in different threads. Our top order will be ok if we can just remove Rok with Mushy. Ash/ Alok if selected should only be considered for BPP . But lets all wait till we get the final XV. who knows maybe both Ash and Alok will be out of the final 15..

Ya let's wait and see who gets in. I agree that mushy should bat at #4 instead of rock. I would rather have shakib batting at #4 though.
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pial
January 18, 2011, 10:27 PM
Agree with u.

Ditto

kalpurush
January 18, 2011, 10:31 PM
Ditto
Pial - upni ki Mohammadpur Govt. High School er chhatro?

iamreza
January 18, 2011, 10:56 PM
No matter how big of a fan I am of Alok, I cannot accept the interference of BCB 'Technical committee' in team selection. On principle this is absolutely ridiculous. Selectors have to be free to choose their team. And once the team is chosen it should be upto the team management to decide whom to play in the final 11. There is absolutely no reason why technical committee needs to decide on this. Both Kalerkantha and Prothom-alo report mentioned about these interference. Lotta and his board members are making a mess !!! And this is not the first time !

Totally agree with you.
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ahnaf
January 18, 2011, 11:13 PM
I'm already shocked... If ash dont play at Wc may be i wont a watch a single full match.. I cant even dreamed of a Wc squad without ash nd mash.. WTH is going on?? Why this alok coming in the scene? He cant even perform in domestic league... Stupid bcb...

sadi
January 19, 2011, 12:26 AM
Haha... funny how some people will not see the world cup matches if Ashraful is not there... obviously they haven't been watching ash play in recent years or else they wouldn't be such a hardcore fan.

Murad
January 19, 2011, 12:33 AM
I'm already shocked... If ash dont play at Wc may be i wont a watch a single full match.. I cant even dreamed of a Wc squad without ash nd mash.. WTH is going on?? Why this alok coming in the scene? He cant even perform in domestic league... Stupid bcb...

Lolz. I'm a big fan of Ash but still I don't want to see him in the squad. He doesn't deserve it. He needs to work on his batting and mental weaknesses in the domestic cricket. He needs to see a psychiatrist.

Alok doesn't deserve to be in the A-team at the moment. He performed very poorly in NCL and also in DPL so far.

We can't stop watching our country play just because our favorite player not selected.

Night_wolf
January 19, 2011, 12:37 AM
I'm already shocked... If ash dont play at Wc may be i wont a watch a single full match.. I cant even dreamed of a Wc squad without ash nd mash.. WTH is going on?? Why this alok coming in the scene? He cant even perform in domestic league... Stupid bcb...

ash isn't bigger then Bangladesh right?..think about what u said bhai..Bangladesh cricket team needs our support regardless ash is there or not

Ajfar
January 19, 2011, 12:41 AM
Ahnaf tumi ki Bangladesher khela dekho Ashraful ke support korar jonno naki Bangladesh cricket team ke support korar jonno?
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tail-ender
January 19, 2011, 01:20 AM
i wont mind if ash dont get selected but if alok is selected instead of him it'll b a big joke.what has he done to earn his place?
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Rabz
January 19, 2011, 01:30 AM
Ash has to be there.
Ash needs to be there.
Ash should be there.
Without Ash, we have absolutely no chance of going beyond the ordinary in the world cup.
Alok et all are not match winners, they are just contributors.
They can win jacks*** for us.

I'd be absolutely gutted if Ash doesnt make it.
Half of my fun for this world cup would be gone.

ahnaf
January 19, 2011, 02:19 AM
Lolz. I'm a big fan of Ash but still I don't want to see him in the squad. He doesn't deserve it. He needs to work on his batting and mental weaknesses in the domestic cricket. He needs to see a psychiatrist.

Alok doesn't deserve to be in the A-team at the moment. He performed very poorly in NCL and also in DPL so far.

We can't stop watching our country play just because our favorite player not selected.
sorry bhaiya..
i was frustrated.. Bt ata mante partechina.. Amar mone hoy na ata ash r jonno bhalo hbe.. Jodi or cheye better performer k nito den ok.. Bt alok? Thats not fair.. Ash k team e nao.. Dorkar hole khelio na akta match o.. Bt 15 joner moddhe na rakhata thik na..

ahnaf
January 19, 2011, 02:20 AM
ash isn't bigger then Bangladesh right?..think about what u said bhai..Bangladesh cricket team needs our support regardless ash is there or not

im sorry bhai.. Mon bhalo chilo na.. Bt alok k neya ata mana jay na..

ahnaf
January 19, 2011, 02:22 AM
Ahnaf tumi ki Bangladesher khela dekho Ashraful ke support korar jonno naki Bangladesh cricket team ke support korar jonno?
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sorry bhai.. I was frustrated..

irampool
January 19, 2011, 02:37 AM
Al, actually on the few innings I've seen of both of late, Alok is playing more correctly. He makes a conscious attempt to play straight initially and his strokes pack more power. Plus he will be mentally more ready to play at a 6 or 7 compared to Ash. I believe longer term this might be the best thing for Ash. He'll realize that just dominating local leagues and then trying cutesy dabs and paddles will NOT work for him. He'll realize he has to develop SOME form of batting plan.

Agree! Moreover, I would say, Sabbir Rahman can also be a good option in this case, but then again it's understandable if the selectors don't want to experiment him in a big event like WC. So, Alok's experience can certainly come ahead. Having said that, Alok hasn't really done a great deal in the Premiere League so far, so that's something to think about too!

Nadim
January 19, 2011, 02:47 AM
Sir is in
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RazabQ
January 19, 2011, 02:49 AM
Ok, this is surely Ash's last call salon ... do things right Motin miya!

cricman
January 19, 2011, 02:50 AM
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PoorFan
January 19, 2011, 02:54 AM
And legend Fazal get lost again ...

al Furqaan
January 19, 2011, 02:55 AM
sanity prevails...no surprises in this squad. best available squad despite the presence of the sissy trio.

i hope riyad, naeem, ash can get us some PP joys.

cricman
January 19, 2011, 02:58 AM
sanity prevails...no surprises in this squad. best available squad despite the presence of the sissy trio.

i hope riyad, naeem, ash can get us some PP joys.

They have to use him the right way tho

Zeeshan
January 19, 2011, 02:59 AM
i feel like cryin bay-by bay-by bay-by

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bujhee kom
January 19, 2011, 03:12 AM
Ashraful! Ashraful! Babooshkaa! Baambino!

hoodlum
January 19, 2011, 03:13 AM
If prothom-alo's speculation is true, and there is actually a talk about dropping Ash to make room for Alok, it WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY OF BANGLADESH CRICKET.

I do not care much about Ash getting a chance or not, but comparing him with Alok is like comparing Boltz with lula pagla.

Now this the SAD DAY of bangladesh cricket to see ash in the sqaud

BANFAN
January 19, 2011, 05:44 AM
[Place holder] until the announcement is made.

Place holder complete koren na?

jisaan
January 19, 2011, 06:17 AM
Ash has to be there.
Ash needs to be there.
Ash should be there.
Without Ash, we have absolutely no chance of going beyond the ordinary in the world cup.
Alok et all are not match winners, they are just contributors.
They can win jacks*** for us.

I'd be absolutely gutted if Ash doesnt make it.
Half of my fun for this world cup would be gone.

the selectors read ur mind, it seems.
best of luck

jisaan
January 19, 2011, 06:33 AM
now we have someone to bash during wc.
thanks selectors

Rabz
January 19, 2011, 06:37 AM
the selectors read ur mind, it seems.
best of luck

They didnt have to listen to me.
It was the right call, given the contenders in his place.

parvez
January 19, 2011, 07:42 AM
They didnt have to listen to me.
It was the right call, given the contenders in his place.
Thats true, he played well in National league, currently playing awesome in premier league. He just played one ODI match in last couple of months against ZIM. So he deserved the place in 15th men squad. Everyone should pray for his success in WC not the criticism.

BanCricFan
January 19, 2011, 07:45 AM
From now on Ashraful (Asharful/AshDaFool) will be known as the TopCat. A normal cat has nine lives but this CAT has unlimited lives.

Night_wolf
January 19, 2011, 08:12 AM
ashrafool konodin Bangla cricket e morbena..se omor

Tiger-ess
January 19, 2011, 08:36 AM
Not sure what to make out of his inclusion in the WC squad. I know for a fact had he not been in the sqaud I'd be screaming into my pillow or howling away somewhere..I mean Worldcup just isnt the same without Ash. Yet somehow im not too ecstatic...maybe coz It's no surprise. arrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhh see what Ashraful does?? confuses the s*** out of people:-|

One thing I know for sure this time. If he does fail us now I'll be happy willing for him f*** off forever:-D

Haru-party
January 19, 2011, 08:40 AM
i feel like cryin bay-by bay-by bay-by

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can you pls change ur avatar vai.....that barber makes me sick

MarufH
January 19, 2011, 11:20 AM
Good for him.. hope he does well... perhaps his last chance.. after this he will be Tushar Imran...

Baundule
January 19, 2011, 11:41 AM
If they did not pick Ashraful, I was going to Boycott the world cup. A great decision by the selection panel. :D

On a serious note, Ashraful is ruined by our team management.

Aahiyan
January 19, 2011, 12:58 PM
If they did not pick Ashraful, I was going to Boycott the world cup. A great decision by the selection panel. :D

On a serious note, Ashraful is ruined by our team management.

vai, amio. :)

DJ Sahastra
January 19, 2011, 06:09 PM
Shakib made a big mistake by not letting Ashraful play a few matches against Zimbabwe (i think Ash was dropped after 1 game).

If Ash had played 3-4 matches, it would have proved conclusively whether he should get a ride to World Cup or not. Dumping him after 1 match made it difficult to judge and for good or for bad, Ash is back.

My hunch - it is for good. On his day, Ash can win a match and every probability and stats indicate that he is not too far away from 'his' day. He has already played like 500 matches without contributing anything, so a big one is around the corner :)

Purbasha T
January 19, 2011, 06:47 PM
Eid Mubarak in advance people ;)

LateCut
January 19, 2011, 07:01 PM
Problem is that he lost all his confidence. He does not have it: period. He either plays to cautiously or stupidly agreesive. In either case, he departs after scoring in the mid teens in a good day or earlier in a bad day. Dring the WI world cup, one my friends asked him why is that he tries stupid shots at the wrong moment. He very respecfully answered " আমিতো বুঝি সেটা, কিন্তু সব গোলমাল হয়ে যায় মাঠে।" After that he went back to checking his email in the public computer of the hotel.

al Furqaan
January 19, 2011, 09:52 PM
Problem is that he lost all his confidence. He does not have it: period. He either plays to cautiously or stupidly agreesive. In either case, he departs after scoring in the mid teens in a good day or earlier in a bad day. Dring the WI world cup, one my friends asked him why is that he tries stupid shots at the wrong moment. He very respecfully answered " আমিতো বুঝি সেটা, কিন্তু সব গোলমাল হয়ে যায় মাঠে।" After that he went back to checking his email in the public computer of the hotel.

can u translate the part in bangla please?

Zunaid
January 19, 2011, 09:58 PM
Problem is that he lost all his confidence. He does not have it: period. He either plays to cautiously or stupidly agreesive. In either case, he departs after scoring in the mid teens in a good day or earlier in a bad day. Dring the WI world cup, one my friends asked him why is that he tries stupid shots at the wrong moment. He very respecfully answered " আমিতো বুঝি সেটা, কিন্তু সব গোলমাল হয়ে যায় মাঠে।" After that he went back to checking his email in the public computer of the hotel.

can u translate the part in bangla please?

I do know that, but it all gets messed-up in the field.

iDumb
January 19, 2011, 10:22 PM
Shakib made a big mistake by not letting Ashraful play a few matches against Zimbabwe (i think Ash was dropped after 1 game).

If Ash had played 3-4 matches, it would have proved conclusively whether he should get a ride to World Cup or not. Dumping him after 1 match made it difficult to judge and for good or for bad, Ash is back.

:)

yes some of us had the foresight to have said this. the reaction after first ODI loss to zimbabwe was too much.

anyways I am glad ash is here.

bujhee kom
January 19, 2011, 10:27 PM
At the end of the day...

Ash - 1
Fazli mamu - Jheeroo - Bolwed out by deadly leg-spin!


And Fazal mamu taar ahoto pachate aste aste haat bulate bulate dhirey dhirey ekti ahoto nekre-er moto abar taar shei purano Gooha-e lookate firey gelen!

akabir77
January 19, 2011, 10:47 PM
yes some of us had the foresight to have said this. the reaction after first ODI loss to zimbabwe was too much.

anyways I am glad ash is here.

I think that was done intentionally. selectors wanted to pick him for wc. so they took him out so that we would not know what is his status of his form...

Sohel
January 19, 2011, 10:57 PM
Phashtobol I iscore phipti, I pele phasht raund. I iscore tu phipti, I pele 2000-ilebhen.

kazis2007
January 20, 2011, 12:06 AM
I am sure ash will bounce back in this wc and he is gonna shut everyone's mouth.
if it's wrong then good bye to ash forever.

BANFAN
January 20, 2011, 04:16 AM
vai, amio. :)

Aihai, eto Ashraful fan kothaye chilo etodin? Moydane to kauke dekha jaye na :)

Eta ki, "Boro Prem shudhu kachei tane na dureo shorie daye? " ;)

zainab
January 20, 2011, 06:34 AM
I think if Ashraful is chosen in the first eleven, he should bat at N0 6 or 7, not at 3 or 4, his off spins will come in handy too. Mushy should be the No 4 batsman, but I think that Ash will not be chosen for the India match.

Aahiyan
January 20, 2011, 06:59 AM
Aihai, eto Ashraful fan kothaye chilo etodin? Moydane to kauke dekha jaye na :)

Eta ki, "Boro Prem shudhu kachei tane na dureo shorie daye? " ;)

sobay tou dekhi ASh er against e, jara or supporter chilo tarao nai ekhon.

riankhan
January 20, 2011, 08:38 AM
sobay tou dekhi ASh er against e, jara or supporter chilo tarao nai ekhon.

There are a lot who support Ash in this forum mate (though I belong to Ash Hater).
The likes of Zainab Apa, Murad, Bond, Ahnaf, Rabz (pls add vais) and many more support Ash.
But our Ash bashers club is strong as well (Fazal vai is the shovapoti)....we should have a match someday ;)

shuziburo
January 20, 2011, 08:45 AM
He will make it guys. We need him.

Even if we need him, will he deliver when we do? The history is not good.

shuziburo
January 20, 2011, 08:47 AM
Jahirul wouldn't be a bad reserve option for #4. If we play Mushy there, we don't have to pick Raqibul.

Ash should be replaced by a pacer. We're a tad short in that department.

Some of the guys in the lower order need to man up and hit. I don't think Alok's done enough to be in the team, but if he's picked and batting at #6/#7, he might actually come in pretty handy. Plus he's got his leggies too.

I seldom agree with anyone 100%. But, here I do.

shuziburo
January 20, 2011, 08:51 AM
I'm already shocked... If ash dont play at Wc may be i wont a watch a single full match.. I cant even dreamed of a Wc squad without ash nd mash.. WTH is going on?? Why this alok coming in the scene? He cant even perform in domestic league... Stupid bcb...

Aren't you being irrational? Just a little bit may be? Has Ash performed in the international matches even on a semi-regular basis?

shuziburo
January 20, 2011, 08:54 AM
From now on Ashraful (Asharful/AshDaFool) will be known as the TopCat. A normal cat has nine lives but this CAT has unlimited lives.

How about InfiniCat?

shuziburo
January 20, 2011, 08:57 AM
There are a lot who support Ash in this forum mate (though I belong to Ash Hater).
The likes of Zainab Apa, Murad, Bond, Ahnaf, Rabz (pls add vais) and many more support Ash.
But our Ash bashers club is strong as well (Fazal vai is the shovapoti)....we should have a match someday ;)

Me, I was a strong Ash supporter and now a strong Ash non-supporter...

lamisa
January 20, 2011, 09:49 AM
dhur,abar kon chipa diya dhuika porlo teame.

riankhan
January 20, 2011, 11:12 AM
Me, I was a strong Ash supporter and now a strong Ash non-supporter...

Though the transfer season ended a while ago, we can arrange a special registration.
Besides, we always needed a solid Umpire teasing/Leg 'Breaking' Bowler in our (ash basher's team)...:)

Fazal
January 20, 2011, 11:46 AM
Now that Ash is in the team and assuming he is going to play, here is the question for all Ash fans and non-fans.

What is your criteria for Ash to be considered a success?

1. Batting Average? ( For me: 35+ if he bats #3 or #4; 25+ if he bats #6 or #7)

2. Strike Rate? (For me: SR 85+ if he bats #3 or #4; SR 95+ if he bats #6 or#7 )

3. Missed Caches? ( For me: less than 1 per game)

4. Any run outs he will be involved in? (For me: less 1 per game)

5. Bolwing? (For me: if he plays #6 or #7 he bowls 4+ overs per game with an Econ Rate 4.50 or less; if he plays #3 or #4, any bowling is a plus)

mali007
January 20, 2011, 11:48 AM
Feb. 19, inaugural match of WC , BD vs IND. Tigers won the toss and elected to bat.
Score 60 for 2 in 14 overs. New batsman Ashraful ----- 8 dot balls , next ball pushed to cover and started running and suddenly stopped --- non striker Tamim responded his call
and eventually got run out!! Ash was out out next scoring 7 in 25 balls and we lost that match. Ash was selected for the next match too !! BD could not make 2nd round of WC !!!!

riankhan
January 20, 2011, 12:01 PM
Now that Ash is in the team and assuming he is going to play, here is the question for all Ash fans and non-fans.

What is your criteria for Ash to be considered a success?

1. Batting Average? ( For me: 35+ if he bats #3 or #4; 25+ if he bats #6 or #7)

2. Strike Rate? (For me: SR 85+ if he bats #3 or #4; SR 95+ if he bats #6 or#7 )

3. Missed Caches? ( For me: less than 1 per game)

4. Any run outs he will be involved in? (For me: less 1 per game)

5. Bolwing? (For me: if he plays #6 or #7 he bowls 4+ overs per game with an Econ Rate 4.50 or less; if he plays #3 or #4, any bowling is a plus)

Well aware of the first 4 facts.
He can give us minimum negative impact playing at #6/7.
Finally, this is what we have to live with, and my 100% wish/prayer/Asha-Vorosha is with the current lot.

lamisa
January 21, 2011, 04:54 AM
if ash is allowed to bowl,he should bowl atleast 3 overs because though he's expensive and stupid most of the time,he does manage to pick up wickets

Eshen
January 21, 2011, 05:16 AM
I hope this time around Siddons has a definite plan for Ash, I hope he won't make the stupid mistake of wasting the #4 slot on Ash again (like he did in the match we lost to Zimbabwe). If he plans to use Ash for #7, I am all for it. Ash can be a much better choice there instead of Riyad or Naeem.

firstlane
January 21, 2011, 08:00 AM
Feb. 19, inaugural match of WC , BD vs IND. Tigers won the toss and elected to bat.
Score 60 for 2 in 14 overs. New batsman Ashraful ----- 8 dot balls , next ball pushed to cover and started running and suddenly stopped --- non striker Tamim responded his call
and eventually got run out!! Ash was out out next scoring 7 in 25 balls and we lost that match. Ash was selected for the next match too !! BD could not make 2nd round of WC !!!!

'Kufa' naam e ekta bangla shobdo ase, jaanen?

mali007
January 21, 2011, 11:31 AM
KAPALI should have been there !! Watch the Youtube link below about Kapali's ability to hammer INDIA ( In Asia Cup before joining ICL) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYMaat7MpI