Fault lies in the BCB not the coach-BD doesn't even have full time batting coach

[1212]

Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.

[One World]

You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.

[1212]

You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.

So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.

[1212]

What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.

[al-Sagar]

Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.

SIDDONS himself said a lot of time he is manly a batting coach. the team management deals with the tactical and strategy issues and he is a small part of that.

anyway SIDDONS was also responsible for the security of players and food of security personnel

[1212]

SIDDONS himself said a lot of time he is manly a batting coach. the team management deals with the tactical and strategy issues and he is a small part of that.

anyway SIDDONS was also responsible for the security of players and food of security personnel

Siddons coaches more than batting. A head coach has a much much bigger role than batting. They're responsible for scouting opposition teams, coming up with plans for certain games, tracking batting order and etc. You can't expect a head coach to replace the role of a batting coach.

[munnabhai]

No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. Only Shakib is world class, less said about others the better. Why blame BCB or Coach? BCB has done a lot so far, bringing in Ian Pont and Julein Fountain, they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.

[M.H.Rubel]

To me all responsibility goes to:
1.Corrupt BCB with its president.
2.Failure or Head coach/Batting Coach
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[max410]

Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.
well said bro :notworthy:

[Katman]

so if sid not using the right players for the right place why blaming bcb? Sid coached 2 t20 also. What the results were we know well. Our domestic is now more stronger...players from the domestic are doing well like imrul, shuvo, shafiul, mahmudullah, nazmul...but we r not giving them enough chances. We are relying more on the young boys. First of all think the facts first then make ur view dear friend..in 2007 we qualified both t20 and 50 over wc with vangachora team...coz coach & selectors planed well. So blame goes only to sid and rafiq...no one else.

[Katman]

so if sid not using the right players for the right place why blaming bcb? Sid coached 2 t20 alsao. What the results were we know well. Our domestic is now more stronger...players from the domestic are doing well like imrul, shuvo, shafiul, mahmudullah, nazmul...but we r not giving them enough chances. We are relying more on the young boys. First of all think the facts first then make ur view dear friend..in 2007 we qualified both t20 and 50 over wc with vangachora team...coz coach & selectors planed well. So blame goes only to sid and rafiq...no one else.

[Raynman]

So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.

So its Siddons' credit when we win and progress but posting all time lows within a span of 4 games is the players' fault?

Even in the India match, the 370 was the bowlers' fault but the 283 that was all Siddons.

[KaaL-PurusH]

Siddons chewing gum...chibaite vari moja...chibao bangali
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[lamisa]

eki topic niye ar koto discussion cholbe?it's decided that siddons will leave.bcb is already looking for a new coach i am sure and siddons must alo be looking or has probably found a new job.

[max410]

Look at West indies they scored only 112 in our pitch i guess the pitch is cursed
its not the players fault as well this wicket is cursed
hahahahhahahahhahahaha

[Tintin]

You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.

"58 me once, shame on you" - so it was West Indies fault that Bangladesh was out for 58 :)

[MarvinDaMartian]

কোচের রকমফের আছে, কিন্তু আমাদের খেলোয়ারদের আরো অনেক বেশী পরিশ্রম করতে হবে।
Ian, in his posts, hinted about the 'sport culture' of Bangladesh being different and by different he meant to say players needed to work much more harder to compete at this level.

[MarufH]

What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.

BCB Has paid Siddons thousands of $$$$$$$$ to do that work. You make it sound like Siddons was doing it for free. Look where he has got us.

He is the specialist batting coach. He got bowling fielding coaches... so back off man.

[BANFAN]

What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.

& BCB has brought Siddons and kept him for 4 years, who is greater? ;)

[One World]

"58 me once, shame on you" - so it was West Indies fault that Bangladesh was out for 58 :)

Sometimes interpretation becomes an art.
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[Fazal]

Ok... ta na hoi manlam its all BCB's fault.

Kintu Musolmaaner ek kotha..."Taklu Da must go!!"

If Siddon has indeed done a great job, he shouldn't have any problem getting even better and bigger job elsewhere. Tamim can give a recoomendation letter.

So in that case I see its a WIN WIN situation. Sometimes even a great coach need a break and need to move somewhere else and have a new start. It'same with team. Siddon repeatedly said his players doen't follow his game plan and his players are making same mistakes repeatedly. He also said this set of players should b eplaying 4 more years and will grow.

That means, even if the message is good (which is highly debatable), the messenger need to be changed for the players to follow the message, as messenger is becomming ineffective.

[Baundule]

^ Siddons may get the BCCI job. Good for him, better for us.

[bdtiger]

we never had a coach on whom we were satisfied. BCB and fans always made the coaches
as escape goats. But is the problem with our coach? or is it with the BCB and mentality
of our players? I am not a big fan of Siddons. I don't care wehether we fire him or keep
him. My concern is when BCB will admit its faults and limitations! Is it going to happen ever?
Can we have a dynamic BCB before we have a foreign coach?

[Fazal]

^ Siddons may get the BCCI job. Good for him, better for us.


wow !!!! that will be great !!!! Shaap o marlam...Lathi o bhanglam na.

[simon]

No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. Only Shakib is world class, less said about others the better. Why blame BCB or Coach? BCB has done a lot so far, bringing in Ian Pont and Julein Fountain, they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.

all I wanted to say!:up:

[HereWeGo]

To me all responsibility goes to:
1.Corrupt BCB with its president.
2.Failure or Head coach/Batting Coach
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We have the tendency to throw this word without even thinking twice....

Well BCB might be generalized for not being competent but where did u see corruption? I did not read abt any such accusation on media.

[thebest]

So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.
So could you please what lies on coach. You are either Siddons or a pupil of Siddons who learned the trick of blaming others for his fault

[Avik]

fault maybe lies in with BCB for having no batting coach. but the thing that annoyed/amazed me most about siddons is this, when his xi for the world cup was set, he said to the other players: "you are the back up player, i dnt have time for you".

evabe bola uchit na kono player kei. that is a big fault indeed!

[SS]

fault maybe lies in with BCB for having no batting coach. but the thing that annoyed/amazed me most about siddons is this, when his xi for the world cup was set, he said to the other players: "you are the back up player, i dnt have time for you".

evabe bola uchit na kono player kei. that is a big fault indeed!

The question is whether he said it that way..or player are saying it to the media...or media is saying it coating it with their usual way of overhyping ...so it would be wise not to rely of one published interview article published on a daily...We are going away from the actual fault to very minor problems...though minor problems need to be addresses...but we have bigger problems to fix...BCB deals with bigger problems so we need to concentrate on that...

[Raynman]

The question is whether he said it that way..or player are saying it to the media...or media is saying it coating it with their usual way of overhyping ...so it would be wise not to rely of one published interview article published on a daily...We are going away from the actual fault to very minor problems...though minor problems need to be addresses...but we have bigger problems to fix...BCB deals with bigger problems so we need to concentrate on that...

Head Coach running a team for his own ego and not in the best interest of the team IS A MAJORE ISSUE.

There are other issues to be tackled with BCB but using that to shield the Head Coach issue is not acceptable.

[reyme]

No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.

Well then! Then we need a lot more coaches. Start coaching kids from age 5. After 10 years of coaching they are bound to become good players. I actually think we need Ian/Fountain type coaches at the academy level, so we can first sharpen players with skills.


Cant we have major in cricket coaching and earn degree followed by some jobs in traning academy? We are a cricket mad nations, we should not have problem with sponsorship.

[affan_ayan]

Who is the nater guru, Siddons or BCB? - Answer: BCB
Who brought Siddons as head coach but not batting coach? ANswer: BCB
Who is responsible for our domestic infra-structure,so poor: ANswer: BCB (it started from Faruk/Lobi to Loitta/Rafiq)
For whom Nannu/Bulbul prematurely droped from test for young kids and end up being 2003 WC: Answer: BCB

Ultimate credit goes to BCB, if we do great, and blame also goes to BCB, if we do bad.

But, BCB is also human (lol) and the hind sight, they got our cats to make them tiger.

[Katman]

look what john wright has done with NZ...our domestic is much competetive now...blaming bcb is just a foolishness., though jamie's appointment was a huge mistake...look at our premier league many world class players are coming to play here...we've better infrastructure than srilanka or pakistan... The main problem is last 4 or 5 years our domestic is much stronger but jamies did'nt do any scouting at all..shuvo, shafiul, imrul they r all from our domestic..they r performing well..but when our coach used to play test, odi, t20 with the same team so blame goes to jamie.

[SS]

look what john wright has done with NZ...our domestic is much competetive now...blaming bcb is just a foolishness., though jamie's appointment was a huge mistake...look at our premier league many world class players are coming to play here...we've better infrastructure than srilanka or pakistan... The main problem is last 4 or 5 years our domestic is much stronger but jamies did'nt do any scouting at all..shuvo, shafiul, imrul they r all from our domestic..they r performing well..but when our coach used to play test, odi, t20 with the same team so blame goes to jamie.

kinda disagree with few statements but blame goes to both...sticking with non performers and also not taking care of the rejects, overall there were many mistakes...but world class players are not coming as they used to (why they will come when they go to ipl) and also lanka got a better structure and Pak got more talents.

[cricket_pagol]

Collapsing from 108-2 to 172 all out on quarter final game... kind of unforgivable! Can we forgive a team team like that?

[Katman]

kinda disagree with few statements but blame goes to both...sticking with non performers and also not taking care of the rejects, overall there were many mistakes...but world class players are not coming as they used to (why they will come when they go to ipl) and also lanka got a better structure and Pak got more talents.

i can agree with some points here, pak has more talents coz they're playing cricket from the 60's so time matters, imran khan also created the history after winning wc...srilanka got better after winning wc...so whatever ur structure is A national team has to believe, we have to do something special what whatmore+ranatunga did, what imran+intikhab did...so we badly need a legendary captain &inteligent coach...But the investment we did in this wc will make us better test playing nation...

[LBW103]

Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.

JS is the batting coach. What are you talking about?

Coaching staff
Team Operations Manager : Tanjib Ahsan Saad
Head Coach & Batting Coach : Jamie Siddons
Bowling Coach : Ian Pont
Fielding Coach : Julien Fountain
Strength and Conditioning Coach : Grant Trafford Luden
Team Physiotherapist : Michael Lawrence Henry
Team Psychologists : Dr. Soumendra Saha & Dr. Srilekha Saha
Computer Analyst : Nasir Ahmed Nasu
Media Manager : Rabeed Imam

[zainab]

Have to disagree about Sri lanka and pakistan infrastructure, they are much better than Bangladesh, no comparison, they also find new talent all the time and train them properly.What does BD do? Stick with the same players and dont train and give other players a chance.
Also, Sri lanka Cricket Board under Arjuna and Ranatunga pays a decent salary to even the squad of the A team, in all, they have 90 members on the payroll, even the U19 players get some money for their Kits. BD does not bother to pay anyone, except the top national players.
HoW do these cricketers from the A team and other teams earn money? Would someone on this forum enlighten me?