Why are we playing fewer Test matches each year?

[nura43]

Guys can u remember when BD team last played a test match? Most probably in June last year (if I am not wrong). And so far as I know BD team will play their next test match most probably in August/September this year. So there will be a gap of almost 14/15 months without any test match for BD team. What does it mean? Is it BCB who is not focusing on test matches? is it the ICC who is not willing to include test matches in BD's international schedule? Or its the other test playing countries who r reluctant to play test matches with BD?

Well.....whatever the reason is, it will be detrimental for BD's test status. I have a feeling that ICC is going to reassess BD's test status in a few years time. And if that happens then we might loose our test status because of our pathetic performance in test arena.

What do u think?

[revolver]

Its probably because knowone wants to play with us :(
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[auntu]

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[Night_wolf]

Its probably because knowone wants to play with us :(
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ditto

[Fazal]

We are sooo good that ora amader bhoi pai?

[MarufH]

Simple cause we are not good enough for test cricket.

[rinathq]

We suck in test do we? Lets see ANY non asian test nation face us in Chittagong for a test...... BCB should straight up challenge any non asian team and lets see if they can survive even 2 sessions of our spinners!

[F6_Turbo]

No one wants to play a crap team, especially one which all teams will lose money on if they invite us to tour their countries.

[Night_wolf]

We suck in test do we? Lets see ANY non asian test nation face us in Chittagong for a test...... BCB should straight up challenge any non asian team and lets see if they can survive even 2 sessions of our spinners!

u must mean Shakib...we dont have any other spinners in test

[rinathq]

u must mean Shakib...we dont have any other spinners in test

The entire spin attack. Razzaq looked very aggressive recently and he will be much more effective in tests now since last may i think!

We also have Mahmudullah and Naeem for leftys and they will be very effective as well. Last time we played in England where there was little for spinners thats why they couldnt shine upto their potential.
About Shuvo, i feel he has the ability to create pressure. He makes the batsman throw his wicket which can be huge in tests when the fielders are all close and batsmen cant rotate strikes.

So all in all, our spin attack is deadly against teams like Australia, South Africa, England and off course the Kiwis in tests IF Mirpur is converted to a turning wicket. And in Chittagong, we can beat Australia if our batsmen can guarantee and combines effort of 500 runs in 2 innings.

[Nafi]

u must mean Shakib...we dont have any other spinners in test

:floor: well said

Razzak isnt test calibre, though Riyad has potential.

I dont mind waiting to have tests, we need to find one partner for Shakib who is a genuine wicket taker. And he can be supported by Riyad. So that would be a spin attack of Riyad-Shakib- Specialist spinner.

This alongside two seamers, is a good bowling attack for a spinning pitch, (not a seamer's pitch, where you have to field three fast bowlers)

[Baundule]

Jamie Siddons should file a case against the ICC. He has made all those great improvements of the players and still we struggle to get matches. Also Zimbabwe should be given test status back so that we can improve our rating.

[Habib 420]

we are playing few Test match is becuase test playing nations dont want to waste the strength and energy playing someone like Bangladesh "simple". As days are going more people are realising that we can suprise people in ODI "upsets" but not in Test. So countries will accept ODI hence we play more One day Cricket.

[Raynman]

Its not just us. Even NZ rarely get more than 2 Tests when they visit someone. Pretty soon WI will face the same thing.

The problem is that the 'Elite' nations don't really care to see Test cricket expand at the fear of the quality suffering. For change to come around BD, ZIM, NZ, WI and maybe even PAK and SL need to unite with an agenda/plan. Problem is NZ and WI look down on us just as we do with ZIM or even supporting test status for lets say IRE and AFG.

All the major records will stay secure to IND, ENG and AUS as no other players will ever get a chance to play enough matches to break them (probably with the exception of Muralis)

[zainab]

I feel that India, Australia, SA, England and SL will play more test matches in the next FTP, The bottom five teams will play about 4 test matches per year, and may play each other more.
I believe that the ICC will pay more attention to 20/20 matches, because the public is losing interest in Test matches, much too long for a result.

[Asif68]

We suck in test do we? Lets see ANY non asian test nation face us in Chittagong for a test...... BCB should straight up challenge any non asian team and lets see if they can survive even 2 sessions of our spinners!

:facepalm: England beat us last year at Chittagong in a test match........ Bangladesh are not ready to play test matches with anyone except maybe West indies

[Jadukor]

We suck in test do we? Lets see ANY non asian test nation face us in Chittagong for a test...... BCB should straight up challenge any non asian team and lets see if they can survive even 2 sessions of our spinners!
you only have to go as far back as march 2010 for that man... when England thrashed us in Chittagong
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bdeshveng2010/engine/match/426423.html

we don't have a bowling unit which can take 20 wickets... winning is out of the equation when you can't bowl sides out twice. So the best we can do is hope for a draw which will also be difficult with the current batting form. I am happy we are not playing tests at the moment...

[Tiger444]

We played 8 tests last year and now this year we're playing 5. I'm happy with that to be honest. For a struggling test team like us, that's a good amount of matches. Once we start winning then countries will be more willing to play us. I believe that we should worry about winning ODIs against test playing nations on a consistent basis then about tests. If we can do that then we can start thinking about playing more test matches.

I really wished that we could play Zimbabwe in 2 tests this year because we need to have some wins against anyone to boost our confidence at this level. Getting wins against Pakistan or even the WI will be tough to get. First things first though as Jakudor bhai keeps on reiterating, we need a bowling attack that can take 20 wickets. If you can't do that then teams don't feel the pressure and you cannot win matches. Simple as that. Right now Shahadat is our only test level pacer in our team. Shafiul and Rubel have the potential to be good test bowlers but have some ways to go before they can consistently take wickets at this level. Don't see any other pacer breaking in to tests so these 3 will do for now in our pace department. Our spin department is weak as well. The only test level spinner we have is Shakib. Razzak is not a test bowler and needs to go. Time to try another SLA. Shuvo should be given an extended run in tests. Riyad has been impressive in tests with his bowling. If he can keep working hard on his bowling then he could be a good wicket taking option. Naeem has the potential to be a good test player as well. He impressed against England in BD but struggled mightily in England. He has to work on his batting a lot. His bowling could be handy in tests.

It's also important to select the right batsmen for our test team. Players like Ash and Aftab should be an afterthought for our test team. Tamim, Zunaed, Shakib, Riyad, and Mushy have all shown that they have the ability and temperament to play tests. The spots we have to worry about is the opener and the #4. While Imrul has been consistent in ODIs, he's still struggling in tests and his FC average is poor. We could try SN out since he has done well in tests before and has good potential to be a solid test batsman. And then Rokibul has also showed his struggles at the test level. He is the only bangladeshi to score a triple century so it shows he's got great temperament but still has to sort out his technique in order to play well at the test level. Jahurul was decent in tests but also has some ways to go but definitely another option to look at the #4.

We have the pieces to be a successful test team still the players have got to develop and mature further in order to be good.

[rinathq]

:facepalm: England beat us last year at Chittagong in a test match........ Bangladesh are not ready to play test matches with anyone except maybe West indies

you only have to go as far back as march 2010 for that man... when England thrashed us in Chittagong
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bdeshveng2010/engine/match/426423.html

we don't have a bowling unit which can take 20 wickets... winning is out of the equation when you can't bowl sides out twice. So the best we can do is hope for a draw which will also be difficult with the current batting form. I am happy we are not playing tests at the moment...

guys, the Chittagong condition is more spin friendly than last year. Our team has become stronger since. Specially our pace attack is much more improved because of Pont. if you notice, the tigers managed to score around 300 in both innings and took 7 wickets for 207 in the second innings. With our improved bowling attack, we should be able to take 20 wickets. If our batting doesnt dramatically fail, trust me, we can bring out a much closer match even a draw...........

[max410]

BD plays 7 tests in a year looses 4 by innigns which is bad for test cricket and also bad for BD the players dont have enough skills and temperament to play test cricket , our domestic frist class league is like picnic all Dhaka based players playing for rajshahi and chittagong etc.. just to show the Icc that we have first class structure How many cricket matches are played outside Dhaka nowdays there is no competition at all.. Things have changed a lot.
Other associate nations are Improving in fast rate look at Ireland Netherlands and AFganistan , I wotn be surprised within 1-2 years if IReland gets test status and beats us in test match ... its a shame for BD test status ... we got it when we were not even ready we should know that and try to fix it...

[Ahmed_B]

Link (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=31566&highlight=test+match+schedule+ftp)

[Jadukor]

guys, the Chittagong condition is more spin friendly than last year. Our team has become stronger since. Specially our pace attack is much more improved because of Pont. if you notice, the tigers managed to score around 300 in both innings and took 7 wickets for 207 in the second innings. With our improved bowling attack, we should be able to take 20 wickets. If our batting doesnt dramatically fail, trust me, we can bring out a much closer match even a draw...........
I admire your spirit and faith in our bowling attack and hopefully we will put up some brave performances Tests or at least in the ODIs so that people take us seriously just like any team would when they face Ireland after this worldcup.

As far as that England vs BD test match is concerned... we were able to take 7 wickets in the second innings because England at that point had already amassed a huge lead and were searching for quick runs

[M.H.Rubel]

We played 8 tests last year and now this year we're playing 5. I'm happy with that to be honest. For a struggling test team like us, that's a good amount of matches. Once we start winning then countries will be more willing to play us. I believe that we should worry about winning ODIs against test playing nations on a consistent basis then about tests. If we can do that then we can start thinking about playing more test matches.

I really wished that we could play Zimbabwe in 2 tests this year because we need to have some wins against anyone to boost our confidence at this level. Getting wins against Pakistan or even the WI will be tough to get. First things first though as Jakudor bhai keeps on reiterating, we need a bowling attack that can take 20 wickets. If you can't do that then teams don't feel the pressure and you cannot win matches. Simple as that. Right now Shahadat is our only test level pacer in our team. Shafiul and Rubel have the potential to be good test bowlers but have some ways to go before they can consistently take wickets at this level. Don't see any other pacer breaking in to tests so these 3 will do for now in our pace department. Our spin department is weak as well. The only test level spinner we have is Shakib. Razzak is not a test bowler and needs to go. Time to try another SLA. Shuvo should be given an extended run in tests. Riyad has been impressive in tests with his bowling. If he can keep working hard on his bowling then he could be a good wicket taking option. Naeem has the potential to be a good test player as well. He impressed against England in BD but struggled mightily in England. He has to work on his batting a lot. His bowling could be handy in tests.

It's also important to select the right batsmen for our test team. Players like Ash and Aftab should be an afterthought for our test team. Tamim, Zunaed, Shakib, Riyad, and Mushy have all shown that they have the ability and temperament to play tests. The spots we have to worry about is the opener and the #4. While Imrul has been consistent in ODIs, he's still struggling in tests and his FC average is poor. We could try SN out since he has done well in tests before and has good potential to be a solid test batsman. And then Rokibul has also showed his struggles at the test level. He is the only bangladeshi to score a triple century so it shows he's got great temperament but still has to sort out his technique in order to play well at the test level. Jahurul was decent in tests but also has some ways to go but definitely another option to look at the #4.

We have the pieces to be a successful test team still the players have got to develop and mature further in order to be good.

Dean Tiger some of my questions to you:
1.Do you really think that bowling of Naeem will be effective in test level?
2.Though SN has some good record in test but i dont think he ll be a good choice as the partner of Tamim.I think he ll be good choice at middleorder.
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[Tiger444]

Dean Tiger some of my questions to you:
1.Do you really think that bowling of Naeem will be effective in test level?
2.Though SN has some good record in test but i dont think he ll be a good choice as the partner of Tamim.I think he ll be good choice at middleorder.
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Well I'm not really sure yet about Naeems bowling at the test level. He needs to get more matches to see whether he could be a good bowler. I was impressed with him in the WC so we'll see. And regarding SN, he has batted in the middle order before in tests and considering the fact that he struggles initially with the new ball, and his strengths playing spin, it might be better for him to play at #4.
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[lamisa]

why can't we get nz to play test matches against us?

[nura43]

Our test status was entirely an output of cricket beurocracy. Whats the point of having the status if we can't do anything to accomplish real test playing ability? its been 11 years since we have achieved test status and still we are in "shall do", "will do" state about developing our FC structure. In a few years, teams like Ireland, Netherlands and Afganistan will achieve test status with their abelity in the field and will laugh at us after wining test matches against us.......we will still be in "shall do", "will do" state in those days. We achieve something and then start ignoring that achievement....thats the bitter truth about us. I am utterly frustrated about the future of our cricket.

[zainab]

With Zim returning to the test fold, the ICC will never grant test status to other Associate nations, they will not make the same mistake as they made with Bangladesh who did not have the cricketing infrastructure for test cricket, and the mindset to beat other teams.

[Raynman]

With Zim returning to the test fold, the ICC will never grant test status to other Associate nations, they will not make the same mistake as they made with Bangladesh who did not have the cricketing infrastructure for test cricket, and the mindset to beat other teams.

The mistake was not admitting Bangladesh but the exclusivity they try to preserve. If ICC forced the more 'powerful' nations to adhere to a more fair calendar and match distribution things could have been different.

MMW : Once India starts going downhill after the retirement of ST, VVS, Dravid etc., the interest in Test cricket will fade to a point where it will not be financially viable. Australia and England may try to maintain the Ashes but that will be the extent of it. Either Test cricket will switch to one-off matches vs. full series' or it will perish.

[amar11432]

The mistake was not admitting Bangladesh but the exclusivity they try to preserve. If ICC forced the more 'powerful' nations to adhere to a more fair calendar and match distribution things could have been different.

MMW : Once India starts going downhill after the retirement of ST, VVS, Dravid etc., the interest in Test cricket will fade to a point where it will not be financially viable. Australia and England may try to maintain the Ashes but that will be the extent of it. Either Test cricket will switch to one-off matches vs. full series' or it will perish.

nonsense, what about league-style Test Championship. Plus countries like SA, Eng, Aussie, India...heck every single country manages to find competent people to replace the retirees EXCEPT Bangladesh.

[Leafs PWN]

nonsense, what about league-style Test Championship. Plus countries like SA, Eng, Aussie, India...heck every single country manages to find competent people to replace the retirees EXCEPT Bangladesh.

That would be like watching paint dry. Boring as hell.

No one wants to play us I guess. We need to play at least 10 test a year.

[zainab]

Has the ICC planned the next FTP after 2011? It will be interesting to see that the lesser teams will be restricted to a few test matches, but will play more 20/20s and ODI's.
England, Australia, India, and South Africa will be the teams who will play a minimum of 8 to 10 test matches per year. The rest will have the crumbs thrown at them by this new ICC admin. who seems to be controlled by BCCI, CA and ECB.

[max410]

ICC has no plans to let us play test we keep on losing by innings to everyone which is bad for cricket and also for fans.. i bet BD will loose first class matches against any other first class teams on ranjy trophy india and others.. WE don't have the temperament yet to play test matches we need to play less test matches against lower ranked test teams and practice more first class matches against first class team the last thing i wants it loosing by innings every time we can play test againt new zealand, west indies , and Maybe pakistan not against the top 5 it will create bad results..

[Banglaguy]

^^^ I think we are ready for tests now, I mean, If we don't beat Zim and atleast one against WI and Pak, then we are not.

[aniksh1]

We are not good enough and hav to admit its fair that way...we are not even able to play all 5 days and draw test..came close couple of times...lets take this opportunity to improve ourselves in domestic then invite INDIA...

[max410]

we need to invite first class teams from india sri lanka and pakistan to participate in our first class leagues in order ti improve our first class league we haven't improved at all in test matches . It will be easier to invite first class ranjy trophy team of Assam and west bengal to participate in our first class tournament maybe some associate team like Afghanistan, ireland will be useful as well.

[jashan83]

we need to invite first class teams from india sri lanka and pakistan to participate in our first class leagues in order ti improve our first class league we haven't improved at all in test matches . It will be easier to invite first class ranjy trophy team of Assam and west bengal to participate in our first class tournament maybe some associate team like Afghanistan, ireland will be useful as well.

Inviting Ranji teams would be the most reasonable proposal at it would be most cost efficient. Since we are inviting the teams we would have to bear the costs. The Ranji teams of Bengal, Assam, Orrisa or Tripura would be most suitable.

However what incentive so have Afg or Ire have to play in our domestic circuit. Ireland have already refused the much better level county cricket and instead allows its player to take part in it directly. Ire also get to play with Test Teams so why to go for a low quality domestic league
Afghanistan are too looking to play Test Nations. They want to play BD and not in its domestic league. Ask their fans and they feel they will defeat BD 4 out of 10 times. And if they want they will push to play in Pakistan or India where they will get some benefit.

We presently have 6 teams in our first class and play 15 league matches. We can invite 2 teams say Bengal and Tripura and go for a 2 pool 8 team tournament. This will have 12 pool matches but will give exposure for our players against better first class sides. Imagine the furor if both Ranji teams reach the final. This will make our FC player to push hard and give them a purpose to play. Also if we want we have have some willing teams like UAE, PNG or Malaysia to participate in the tournament with cost sharing with them.