Shakib Al Hasan Vs Mashrafi Bin Mortaza “Captains Battle”

[Habib 420]

People who have watched Shakib play will most probably say that he is the best Captain of Bangladesh. I do not look at what people are saying, I look at the facts. If you look at the captains of the top 8 Test and ODI playing countries, they have a average age near 27. Examples of captains and age: Ms Dhoni (29) India, Kumar Sangakkara (33) Sri Lanka, Graeme Smith (30) South Africa, Shahid Afridi (31) Pakistan, Darren Sammy (27) West Indies, Micheal Clarke (30) Australia. I would think that making someone like Shakib Al Hasan (24) captain is very illogical. This might ruin the career of such a talented all rounder, captain is a different level job. Some captains are successful where others are destroyed. The captain position has destroyed a lot of players in Bangladesh such as Mohammed Ashraful and Habibul Bashar. The fact that I believe the best captain for Bangladesh is Mashrafi Bin Mortaza (27) is that he has experience, he is our leading seam bowler, excellent in battling power-play. This guy has been unfortunate due to injury to lead Bangladesh to a better and bigger success. At this moment we can not compare Mashrafi and Shakib as captains because Shakib played more games as captain then Mashrafi.

Who do you think should be the captain and why?

Will Shakib perform better as being a all-rounder but not a captain?

What quality should a captain have and why?

[Habib 420]

your views please

[LBW103]

Captain should be Shahriar Nafees.

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

This is what makes him simply the very best candidate.

[Zunaid]

Captain should be Shahriar Nafees.

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

This is what makes him simply the very best candidate.

You are speaking like one of our favorites - ex-U-19 and HP coach Richard McInnes. He also had glowing reviews about SN, especially his cricketing intelligence. I hae also heard from mutual friends that SN is also extremely guile-less.

[AhmedN]

Just follow India.....they have so many best performers who are not the captain. And they have no captaincy problems at least not coming in the media now.

We sould not have any problem with captaincy.

Just keep it simple and perform.

[cricket_king]

Captain should be Shahriar Nafees.

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

This is what makes him simply the very best candidate.
The guy ditched the team to join the ICL league. He betrayed us big time for his own selfish reasons. How is he unselfish? Definitely a media hound after that ridiculous show. Finally, "good, solid" batsmen don't edge 50% of swinging balls. Certainly can't seen him being captain with his attitude.

[cricket_dorshok]

Captain should be Shahriar Nafees.

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

This is what makes him simply the very best candidate.

trustworthy and ICL???

[firstlane]

There is no battle at the moment. Shakib is doing fairly well.

[lamisa]

i would always take mash over shakib if he's fully fit

[Baundule]

Some people are living in the stone age and they never grow up! SN should not be the captain because he is not trustworthy because he played in the ICL!!!! I wonder what would happen if these people were in charge of the BCB. They would have procecuted Alok, Bashar, Rafique, Nafees, Dhiman and the likes simply by hanging and by burning them in fire.

Any of Mash and Shakib is fine with me. Both have the quality, if the coach does not create problems in their decision making. As long as Mash is around with full fitness, he can be a better choice and Shakib can focus on his performance. Tamim is not a captaincy material. He overestimates even his own performance let alone judging the team. SN has to be regular in the team first. He has not done anything extra-ordinary yet after his return to be a regular member in the team.

[freeman]

I will only ask u to think before u write anything. Ask Mas to prove his place in the side then we will think about making him captain or not. He is definitely not the old Mas we know and to me he is the third choice pace bowller we have at the moment. Shafiul and Rubiel should be our first choice. A captain should lead from the front and Shakib showed us this time and time again. You guys say he is young! What is the average age in our squad and who is the most aged player we have and how old is he? I am sure if u look for all this answers u will see for yourself. Stop making stupid comments and think bigger picture. Shakib is our next generation captain and we should plan for next world cup around him right now. Don't suggest that we become another Pakistan team again!! So stop all this nonscence talk please.

[shakibrulz]

i would always take mash over shakib if he's fully fit
Lollers

[rinathq]

Some people are living in the stone age and they never grow up! SN should not be the captain because he is not trustworthy because he played in the ICL!!!! I wonder what would happen if these people were in charge of the BCB. They would have procecuted Alok, Bashar, Rafique, Nafees, Dhiman and the likes simply by hanging and by burning them in fire.

Any of Mash and Shakib is fine with me. Both have the quality, if the coach does not create problems in their decision making. As long as Mash is around with full fitness, he can be a better choice and Shakib can focus on his performance. Tamim is not a captaincy material. He overestimates even his own performance let alone judging the team. SN has to be regular in the team first. He has not done anything extra-ordinary yet after his return to be a regular member in the team.


Prosecute ICL Players? Yea I definitely see ur dictatorship ideology. U related to Gaddafi, Stalin or Hitler anyway?
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[AsifTheManRahman]

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

But then who in the team isn't all of the above?

[rinathq]

There should be a settlement here. If Mash is fit, he should lead the ODI side and Shakib can lead test squad. The reason is simple,
Mashrafe is a crucial and experienced player for ODI and should lead the squad to relieve Shakib of this overwhelming pressure. On the other hand, there is really no match for Shakib in tests and I don't see Mash playing test anytime soon anyways. This should make both of them happy and end this dispute between them. Incase of Mash getting injured, Shakib should have no problem acting as a temporary captain because he is already leading the test side.
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[crikfreak]

if only Mashrafe was fit.. i'd choose him over shakib any day.. any moment...

[magic boy]

Shakib al Hasan

Because,


Consistent performance - Only Bangladeshi cricketer who has been consistent enough since debut. Beyond him I would like Ashraful as captain but moronic inconsistent performance doesn't allow neither Ashraful nor Mashrafe.

Respectable & Arrogant - He has already shown his arrogance but also succeeded to achieve respectability. Unless others he shows guts for the game not for himself(hint- Tamim's economy class air ticket incident/Mash's WC).

Because he has a positive mindset & goal- He always wanted to lead Bangladesh team for long time that's why he denied captaincy before for a series only. He believes he can. He has the capability of serving Bangladesh cricket for 10-12 more years.

about Shahriar Nafees, He has to perform consistently. He is still out of form in international level what he used to be. Same goes for Tamim after the end of world cup

lol @ Abdur Razzak lala

[shakibrulz]

Wonder what people see in Mash to pick him over Shakib 'anyday'.

[Habib 420]

Wonder what people see in Mash to pick him over Shakib 'anyday'.

They have seen the Greatest cricketer of Bangladesh, He was and still is the hero of Bangladesh. Shakib just came into the frame recently from 2007, but Mashrafi was already a legend back then. injury has stoped him from showing you guys who is the best shakib or mashrafi, this is why u say shakib is best. you guys have grown up by seeing shakib, i have grown up seeing mashrafi.

[Baundule]

prosecute icl players? Yea i definitely see ur dictatorship ideology. U related to gaddafi, stalin or hitler anyway?

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[One World]

you guys have grown up by seeing shakib, i have grown up seeing mashrafi.

But then also I have grown up almost along with Sachin, watching Waqar, Ambrose, Lara, Aqib, McGrath, Warne and so on.

There are few reasons why Mash's captaincy is a necessity. It is not only performance.

[One World]

:d ..

Few fans are really pathetic, like the one who directly accused Mash for demolishing team chemistry right before world cup and opened a thread on that. Almost six years in BC and still cannot get stop bemused by certain knee-jerks.

"Bangalee koreche vagwan re --- "

[shakibrulz]

They have seen the Greatest cricketer of Bangladesh, He was and still is the hero of Bangladesh. Shakib just came into the frame recently from 2007, but Mashrafi was already a legend back then. injury has stoped him from showing you guys who is the best shakib or mashrafi, this is why u say shakib is best. you guys have grown up by seeing shakib, i have grown up seeing mashrafi.
Oh really? Not that any of these really has got to do anything with captaincy in first place. But still.

Aamer could've been next Akram or Bond could've been better than steyn for all we know. But those are just mere speculations aren't they? And Shakib has done enough to place him higher than Mashrafe. It's not his fault he wasn't born back then is it? Shakib has won you the first test series, and 2 odi series against 2 test playing nations. He's by far the best test bowler, and has topped the ODI allrounder rankings for ages which no other BD player could dream about. He's also the best ODI batsman by far.

[Habib 420]

Oh really? Not that any of these really has got to do anything with captaincy in first place. But still.

Aamer could've been next Akram or Bond could've been better than steyn for all we know. But those are just mere speculations aren't they? And Shakib has done enough to place him higher than Mashrafe. It's not his fault he wasn't born back then is it? Shakib has won you the first test series, and 2 odi series against 2 test playing nations. He's by far the best test bowler, and has topped the ODI allrounder rankings for ages which no other BD player could dream about. He's also the best ODI batsman by far.

when mashrafe was in from did u know he was ranked above Zaheer Khan of India, The strike bowler!!! Zaheer is for india, Mashrafe for Bangladesh!!! Mashrafi played 118 ODI taking 146 wickets, Shakib played 108 ODI and has taken 137 wickets. so its interesting that they both might be playing togerther again. let the contest begin
Shakib is the best all rounder i agree, and he should focus on that and mashrafe being captain will ease any pressure he has.

[napoleonIV]

They have seen the Greatest cricketer of Bangladesh, He was and still is the hero of Bangladesh. Shakib just came into the frame recently from 2007, but Mashrafi was already a legend back then. injury has stoped him from showing you guys who is the best shakib or mashrafi, this is why u say shakib is best. you guys have grown up by seeing shakib, i have grown up seeing mashrafi.

Mashrafee is great...the best fast-bowler we have produced so far. But legend?? We make legend out of our players too easily. We have really set the bar too low.

[Habib 420]

Mashrafee is great...the best fast-bowler we have produced so far. But legend?? We make legend out of our players too easily. We have really set the bar too low.

he is a legend becuase of his love for cricket, and the love he shows to play for bangladesh!!!

[Rifat_02]

IF Shakib's performances start to decline then we have to find another captain. I feel the burden of captaincy might affect him, he is an allrounder so he has lot on his mind anyway. We need his runs more
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[napoleonIV]

he is a legend becuase of his love for cricket, and the love he shows to play for bangladesh!!!

Wow. Interesting definition of identifying a cricketing "legend" :). I never knew that love for the game and country, while very commendable, are the main criterion for labelling a player as legend.

[rinathq]

Oh really? Not that any of these really has got to do anything with captaincy in first place. But still.

Aamer could've been next Akram or Bond could've been better than steyn for all we know. But those are just mere speculations aren't they? And Shakib has done enough to place him higher than Mashrafe. It's not his fault he wasn't born back then is it? Shakib has won you the first test series, and 2 odi series against 2 test playing nations. He's by far the best test bowler, and has topped the ODI allrounder rankings for ages which no other BD player could dream about. He's also the best ODI batsman by far.

Um yea he won us a test and ODI test series against a second string West Indies...... What an achievement!
His only achievement remains the Bangla wash last year but even then against a team that got destroyed by Sri Lanka and India"s team without all the key players!
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[magic boy]

Um yea he won us a test and ODI test series against a second string West Indies...... What an achievement!

It was more than just an achievement. If he wasn't there to captain instead of Mashrafe our test status would have been taken away by ICC already for losing to a second string WI team..Therefore He is one of the biggest saviors of Bangladesh cricket I must admit personally. we should give credits where its due.

His only achievement remains the Bangla wash last year but even then against a team that got destroyed by Sri Lanka and India"s team without all the key players!
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Since no other captain or cricketers who performed and lead from the front to achieve test series win & Banglwashing the semifinalist of 2011 WC no way you can underrate Shakib`s contribution and achievement :)

[FaHiMa]

I would pick Mash over Shak only because then maybe Shak can focus on his batting/bowling more. If only Mash was fully fit. But he`s going through enough as it is with his personal life. So maybe Shak, he's not so bad.

[shakibrulz]

when mashrafe was in from did u know he was ranked above Zaheer Khan of India, The strike bowler!!! Zaheer is for india, Mashrafe for Bangladesh!!! Mashrafi played 118 ODI taking 146 wickets, Shakib played 108 ODI and has taken 137 wickets. so its interesting that they both might be playing togerther again. let the contest begin
Shakib is the best all rounder i agree, and he should focus on that and mashrafe being captain will ease any pressure he has.
Shakib has better average, and economy rate. And in test arena, there's no competition.

Zaheer was never the bowler he is now in the past. It's only recently he has emerged into a world class bowler. So not a big deal. Also shakib is the first bowler to get into the top 10 test bowler rankings as well. That's a hell lot of achievements if you ask me.

[shakibrulz]

Um yea he won us a test and ODI test series against a second string West Indies...... What an achievement!
His only achievement remains the Bangla wash last year but even then against a team that got destroyed by Sri Lanka and India"s team without all the key players!

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And how about Netherlands and Ireland beating under Mash's captaincy? Atleast Shakib has almost single handedly led you to those series wins.

[rinathq]

And how about Netherlands and Ireland beating under Mash's captaincy? Atleast Shakib has almost single handedly led you to those series wins.

Well that was after he brought us our first ever victory against England AT England! Their loss was because they were exhausted and lost the toss on a rain stricken game.
But so what? I would rather lose to Netherland rather than getting allout for 58 and 78 at HOME!
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[Shaan]

Shakib anytime.. !!

[shakibrulz]

Well that was after he brought us our first ever victory against England AT England! Their loss was because they were exhausted and lost the toss on a rain stricken game.
But so what? I would rather lose to Netherland rather than getting allout for 58 and 78 at HOME!

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Well, they played 2 back to back series before world cup as well, so can we blame it on exhaustion as well? And funny how you think NZ and WI win is nothing special at all, and still say that it's okay to lose to the associates.

And no, losing to Ned and Ireland on a single tour is far worse than losing 2 games to test playing nations even by a huge margin. These kind of freak innings happen. Especially on BD pitches. See what happened to WI against Pakistan?

[simon]

During Eng tour Mash looked ok as a capt,so if he is fit I wld like to see how he does,not saying he is bttr than Sak but we didn't get the oppurtunity to see much of captain Mash.
But Sakib on the other hand looks good as a captain,did extremely well in WI & during the "Banglawash",so I don't see any competitor for him at the moment.

BTW,how abt Mushy!:-D

[shakibrulz]

Only scenario Mash is taking over is if the pressure of captaincy gets the better of Shakib. Mash is not bad at all, but you need a guy who can lead for some time, you don't want to change captain series after series. And Mash is too injury prone for that.

[Equinox]

I'd prefer Mash but doubt that even he himself is thinking about captaincy anymore. Neither are ideal captains TBH. Shakib is fine as an on-field captain. I can only hope that he becomes more presentable off the field.

[roman]

Can we not leave all these ICL thing behind? Lets move on...

I would prefer a fit Mash as captain. Shak Is our #1 bowler, #1 batsman. He has enough on his shoulder. Let Shak perform freely. That will only benefit BD team...

[AhmedN]

trustworthy and ICL???
:floor::floor::floor:

[Tigers_eye]

Shakib Al Hasan is Bangladesh Cricket right now. He is the only one who walks in to the team because of his performance. If he wants it, noone, I mean noone should even be considered. If he walks out of BD cricket we are doomed. On his back, (determination, adamant, will) we won a test series and two ODI series who are ranked higher than us. No BD player can say that.

[Zunaid]

Let's face it - you don't have to be the best player in the team to be the captain, you need to be in the team and have the best cricketing brain. Unfortunately, in our "class" based society, it is almost an anathema for some to consider someone else to be their leader for a variety of reasons - "He is my junior, why should I listen to him", "He is just a 'mofossholer pola", "I am a degree pass he is not", "He is from Hapani, I am from Modon" and what not.

Not that I am rooting for anyone else to be captain. I don't know them personally to determine who sharp they are. From having seen them lead and make decisions at the helm, this is how I would rank the captains/ex-captains I can rank (I am putting in some old names for context)

Shakib > Sujon> Mash > Ash > Bashar

The above is purely my subjective opinion.

[Night_wolf]

I will only ask u to think before u write anything. Ask Mas to prove his place in the side then we will think about making him captain or not. He is definitely not the old Mas we know and to me he is the third choice pace bowller we have at the moment. Shafiul and Rubiel should be our first choice. A captain should lead from the front and Shakib showed us this time and time again. You guys say he is young! What is the average age in our squad and who is the most aged player we have and how old is he? I am sure if u look for all this answers u will see for yourself. Stop making stupid comments and think bigger picture. Shakib is our next generation captain and we should plan for next world cup around him right now. Don't suggest that we become another Pakistan team again!! So stop all this nonscence talk please.

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[Murad]

Shakib Al Hasan is Bangladesh Cricket right now. He is the only one who walks in to the team because of his performance. If he wants it, noone, I mean noone should even be considered. If he walks out of BD cricket we are doomed. On his back, (determination, adamant, will) we won a test series and two ODI series who are ranked higher than us. No BD player can say that.

He is Bangladesh Cricket? Hahaha. Hashailen Mijan bhai.

[BANFAN]

Mash shouldn't be even discussed for captaincy at all. He can do a better job mentoring the upcoming pacers, being with them if fit.

There is no reason to disturb Shakib, by bringing up these issues. let Shakib have a long run as a captain. Our problem isn;t captaincy, it's with our skills. So lets focus on the right thing.

[Tigers_eye]

He is Bangladesh Cricket? Hahaha. Hashailen Mijan bhai.
Why would I want joke? Please ask Vettori. When someone leads in batting and bowling stats in a series he is the MAN. When was the last time someone did that before? Yes, captaincy did not bear a burden then. He is the coolest cat BD has ever produced.
Just against NZ:
Most runs 213, Averaging 71, SR 97.7. 2nd man from both teams 137. Does this stat still make you laugh?

Most wickets with 11, Averaging 15.9, SR 20.1, Econ 4.72.

No Full babu, no Boom Boom Tamim, no Mash. Yet winning? When did that happen?
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Okay I concede. He is not BD cricket. But can you tell me then who is?

Ashraful jindabad. 22 average.

[CricFreaky]

Tamim Iqbal got only one vote ; So , he needs get married to get a few more :)

[beshideshi]

Shakib Al Hasan is Bangladesh Cricket right now. He is the only one who walks in to the team because of his performance. If he wants it, noone, I mean noone should even be considered. If he walks out of BD cricket we are doomed. On his back, (determination, adamant, will) we won a test series and two ODI series who are ranked higher than us. No BD player can say that.

I agree with your points, but I think you went a bit overboard by saying Shakib is Bangladesh cricket. He is the heart, the soul, the lungs, the liver, the oesophagus, but not everything. In NZ series, if Rubel/Razzak/SN didn't shine at the right moments we would have ended on 2-2 or even 1-3.

Cricket is a team game, and no matter how well an individual performs, unless he has backing of his team mates, the team wont win. Prime example would be Tamim Iqbal against England, scored at will but made no impact on the results.

[bujhee kom]

Just voted for Shakibul! It's like a simple choice for me! Like Bodda Tigers_eye dada said!

[al-Sagar]

Why would I want joke? Please ask Vettori. When someone leads in batting and bowling stats in a series he is the MAN. When was the last time someone did that before? Yes, captaincy did not bear a burden then. He is the coolest cat BD has ever produced.
Just against NZ:
Most runs 213, Averaging 71, SR 97.7. 2nd man from both teams 137. Does this stat still make you laugh?

Most wickets with 11, Averaging 15.9, SR 20.1, Econ 4.72.

No Full babu, no Boom Boom Tamim, no Mash. Yet winning? When did that happen?
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Okay I concede. He is not BD cricket. But can you tell me then who is?

Ashraful jindabad. 22 average.

NZ was actually SHAKIBWASHED ..... in the third ODI shakib scored that brilliant century...... what an innings that was.

[Haru-party]

khida lagse? ki khaiba? NUN DIA SADA VAT NAKI MOROG POLAO?

[BANFAN]

I agree with your points, but I think you went a bit overboard by saying Shakib is Bangladesh cricket. He is the heart, the soul, the lungs, the liver, the oesophagus, but not everything. In NZ series, if Rubel/Razzak/SN didn't shine at the right moments we would have ended on 2-2 or even 1-3.

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What's remaining Bbeshideshi bahi? Any vital organ missing downwards must belong to Ash ... :)

[Baundule]

What's remaining Bbeshideshi bahi? Any vital organ missing downwards must belong to Ash ... :)
uh hu, Tamim.
Ash is the proud owner of the BRAIN. :D

[Jadukor]

I look at the facts. If you look at the captains of the top 8 Test and ODI playing countries, they have a average age near 27. Examples of captains and age: Ms Dhoni (29) India, Kumar Sangakkara (33) Sri Lanka, Graeme Smith (30) South Africa, Shahid Afridi (31) Pakistan, Darren Sammy (27) West Indies, Micheal Clarke (30) Australia.

Graem Smith is 30 now but i believe he was a lot younger when he was given the captaincy

[Zunaid]

Graem Smith is 30 now but i believe he was a lot younger when he was given the captaincy

He was only 22 years and 82 days and in fact his debut captaincy was against us.

[Zunaid]

Trivia (related) questions:

Who was the youngest captain ever for either a Test or ODI?

[shakibrulz]

Taibu. Shakib is 5th youngest of all time.

[Isnaad]

I still dont understand...Shakib is fine...why dont you all like him as (c)? Is it because of his arrogance? Then I must say, its good that he has some arrogance in him.
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[One World]

Note: Those who are voting for Mash, do not necessarily dislike Shakib or his performance. Most top allrounders are not leading their team. Look at Yuvi, Dilshan, Watson, Kallis. That does not mean they lack in strategy or cannot render viable inputs when needed.

[beshideshi]

What's remaining Bbeshideshi bahi? Any vital organ missing downwards must belong to Ash ... :)

Koekta baki ase, chokh, nak, kaan, gola. And as baundule bhai said, we have "Ash" as our brain.

[Habib 420]

Oh no.. Mashrafe losing to Shakib, Guys wake up.... 3/4 wickets with India in 2007 world cup, how many wickets did shakib take against them recently? If Mash was their against India in the world cup things would have been different and Most likely we would have qualified for Quarter -finals my gut feelings.

[Neel Here]

a captain first of all has to be a sure-shot selection in the team, mash is quite a bit away from being that. while shakib might not be the best in tactical sense, he is a good leader which is very important. if BD gets a decent coach high chances shak will learn on the job. if mash comes back and plays for the team for a year without injury problems I think he should get back the captaincy, but not before.

[roman]

Note: Those who are voting for Mash, do not necessarily dislike Shakib or his performance. Most top allrounders are not leading their team. Look at Yuvi, Dilshan, Watson, Kallis. That does not mean they lack in strategy or cannot render viable inputs when needed.

Exactly. Those who want Mash to captain do not hate Shakib. Lets clear out this confusion. Actually we should not hate any cricketers let it be Ash or Mash or anyone....

That being said, I think Shak is our captain till the end of this year. We have achieved many success under him. He is THE most successful BD captain. So Lets get behinid him. There is no point of arguing about who is or who could be the best captain as this will only divide the unity. Together we are stronger....

[Baundule]

Oh no.. Mashrafe losing to Shakib, Guys wake up.... 3/4 wickets with India in 2007 world cup, how many wickets did shakib take against them recently? If Mash was their against India in the world cup things would have been different and Most likely we would have qualified for Quarter -finals my gut feelings.
Do you think, you are a Mash fan/friend? If so, Mash does not need any enemy.

[Naimul_Hd]

Mash ke ekhon captaincy deya ulta dikey hatar moto obostha hobe...no need to change shakib. But if he thinks captaincy is a burden then its another case. Otherwise, No need to change captaincy.

[M.H.Rubel]

I hate the idea of giving captaincy to players bellow 25.A fit Mash is always better than Shakib to me.But as he is not fit.So i dont want him now.I want Shakib our captain in the next world cup but not now.So cant vote anybody.
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[lamisa]

if only mushy lived upto his promise...

[Murad]

Why would I want joke? Please ask Vettori. When someone leads in batting and bowling stats in a series he is the MAN. When was the last time someone did that before? Yes, captaincy did not bear a burden then. He is the coolest cat BD has ever produced.
Just against NZ:
Most runs 213, Averaging 71, SR 97.7. 2nd man from both teams 137. Does this stat still make you laugh?

Most wickets with 11, Averaging 15.9, SR 20.1, Econ 4.72.

No Full babu, no Boom Boom Tamim, no Mash. Yet winning? When did that happen?
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Okay I concede. He is not BD cricket. But can you tell me then who is?
Mijan bhai,

He is just another player who is performing much better than everyone else in the team for last 2 years or so. Sachin is considered god of cricket in India but is he Indian cricket? In the NZ series, he did better than everyone else in both batting and bowling but he didn't win the series all by himself. Other bowlers contributed as well.

The Test series you are talking about, Riyad & Tamim also performed very well in that series. Riyad won us one game.

And what did he do in the WC? Couldn't win a single game with his performance. Went to a wedding party in the eve of SA game which was a day game. Came to the hotel so late. Both him and Tamim looked sleepy in the field that day.

He is the best cricketer we have ever produced and I have a great respect for him as a player and on-field captain. I'm a big fan of his cricket. But he is no Bangladesh cricket. No one is. No one will be. No one is above the team.
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Ashraful jindabad. 22 average.

Lol What is Ash doing in this argument? You had to mention it because I'm one one of his biggest fan, tai na? ;)

[F6_Turbo]

This thread :lol:

Being injured is the best thing that could have ever happened to Mashrafi. Without playing regular cricket in the last how many years he has now become

- a legend
- a great captain
- a brilliant innovator
- better than Zaheer Khan
- biggest patriot since the brave people who joined the muktibahini

:lol:

I await his return to the side against a full strength opponent.

[kalpurush]

I like Mash
I love Ice Man

[crikss]

poor Mash didn't even get enough opportunity...Mushfique is a good candidate for Captain but his performance is really bad

[Raynman]

Shakib : Best option at the moment considering everything
Mash : Should not be in the discussion till he is back to match fit without fear of injury
Tamim : NO
Nafees : Not a bad option if he becomes a regular in the squad. He was being groomed after Bashar at one time
Razzak : Maybe
Mushy : NO

[AsifTheManRahman]

Shakib : Best option at the moment considering everything
Mash : Should not be in the discussion till he is back to match fit without fear of injury
Tamim : NO
Nafees : Not a bad option if he becomes a regular in the squad. He was being groomed after Bashar at one time
Razzak : Maybe
Mushy : NO
I agree with all of the above.

[Tigers_eye]

Mijan bhai,

He is just another player who is performing much better than everyone else in the team for last 2 years or so. Sachin is considered god of cricket in India but is he Indian cricket? In the NZ series, he did better than everyone else in both batting and bowling but he didn't win the series all by himself. Other bowlers contributed as well.

"Daat thaktey amra daat'er morjada bhujhi na."

Michael Jordan didn't win those rings (Championships) by himself. Yet he is the face, the heart and the soul of Chicago Bulls basketball till now. The only reason is, before him, there was nothing to say about Chicago Bulls accomplishment. After him, well there may be success (if it happens) but not that calibre for sure.

In NBA, one is judged by his performance and winning championships. In cricket, you must win series or tournaments. BD won one tournament before that was ICC trophy. That is why Akram Khan and K Mashud are so highly recognized. Zim's series victory, to the extent WI victory doesn't count that much. NZ series success in undoubtedly the best performance by BD Cricket team in our short cricketing history. I have never seen a boy with that much toughness that Shakib has. Starting from his debut. He is a different breed all together. First there was talk he is selfish, second too young, then his performance will dip, so on so forth.
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Sachin comparison is so wrong in so many departments.
1. Before Sachin played for India, India already have won the WC, had the highest run scorer, highest centurion, highest wicket taker in the world.

2. When Sachin came to play for India, there were already established world class players in the team and several of them.

3. Sachin is known for his batting in which he has surpassed all his peers. He is not an alrounder and has never was the highest wicket taker in a series.

The only similarity those two have is their name starts with S.
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2 years consistent with ball and bat which BD player performed liked that? Habibul Bashar could do only with bat in one format.

In my book, he is BD cricket right now. Just like Michael Jordan is Chicago Bulls. You can disagree with me and that is just fine.

[auntu]

Captain should be Shahriar Nafees.

He is intelligent, not a media hound, he is a team player, not selfish, a good, solid batsman, understands tactics, is not naive, has no favourites... plus he is someone trustworthy who gives 100% for BANGLADESH and not himself.

This is what makes him simply the very best candidate.
SN was well in line to be the BD captain. But only he is to blame for not being selected so far. After Bashar he was the most promising and potential one undoubtedly but ICL saga changes everything. Other wise he would've easily been selected as BD captain before Mash.

[LBW103]

SN was well in line to be the BD captain. But only he is to blame for not being selected so far. After Bashar he was the most promising and potential one undoubtedly but ICL saga changes everything. Other wise he would've easily been selected as BD captain before Mash.

I have to correct you.

SN did 'his time' for going to the ICL and we have all moved on. He is starting to find some form again after being isolated since the NZ series and made a stand by player for the WC, but only being played because everyone else had failed.

The board seem to have a habit of trying to select a captain only based on them being the 'star' player, which is quite wrong. You have to have a captain with understanding of the game and knowledge of how to get the best from others.

SAH is only interested in getting ready for the IPL which is why he is only now, starting to have regular hard batting practice. Mash was only interested in Mash playing in the WC and as others have pointed out tried everything to keep himself in the spotlight.

Most international captains are students of the game with a thirst and knowledge for improvement. It looks like both Mash and SAH have said some pretty ordinary things in the media and spoken out of turn on too many occasions instead of just getting on with playing and winning. Too many excuses.

It's time for a professional captain and not one who is only interested in how much the fans can idolise them. Both Mash and SAH play on this. They understand that they can turn the emotion of the fans into their support. Sometimes tough decisions are harder to make than being popular with the supporters. SN has come back into the fold and should be leading the team. If he was we would see some discipline and respect return to this side.

[Raynman]

Dhoni & Kirsten made it quite clear that the captain/coach need to be in sync.

We need to move past Siddons, finalize a new head coach, let him spend some time with the team and based on his vision/input recommend the next captain.

[Fazal]

I would make make Ashraful as the captain.

I don't see any option.

Why this discrimination against Motin?

[Avik]

its a no brainer to be exact, shakib al hasan is bangladesh's best ever captain, and he shud continue without a shred of doubt.

[Avik]

the biggest problem with mashrafe, maybe the only real problem is, he caves under pressure. if the pressure is on, mashrafe's game plan is gone! remember brendan taylor 6 off the last ball? remember IPL last over giving away 26 runs? caving under match pressure is the worst quality to have in a captain.

other than that, he has been our best fast bowler, by thousand miles, but pressure handling is a premier quality expected of a captain. shakib does that quite well.

[munnabhai]

Shariar Nafees

[Tendulkar_Mcgrath]

Its not about captaincy....sakib or mashrafee whoever will, he will do good. Problem is around International standard temperament

[cricket_pagol]

Shakib's decison making on the field has been stellar, i don't understand why people would want to change captaincy?

[Sohel]

Do read up on what cricket captaincy involves in real-life, not fantasy or EA Sports Geecket.

Shakib all the way. Mashrafe's clueless, docile and sissy one-slip TEST captaincy with the new ball after a couple of overs in West Indies still makes me cringe. His injury soon afterward brought Shakib into captaincy and we had our first test and ODI BanglaWash against a test playing nation.

He needs to be in disciplined environment devoid of Sid-like nepotism and double standards as he will be soon thank GOD, and he will prosper as captain InshAllah.

Rex and Tamim??? Are you freaking serious???? We have many Loitta-Bagh Mama-Etc 2.0s in this forum for sure!

[One World]

I would recommend keep the competition healthy, for Mash he is not really tested as captain too long. Even when he had a chance was able to demolish England in their own backyard.

[riajul]

shakib er aachoron valo na.
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[Beamer]

Does Sakib has room for improvement? Obviously. But, there is no comparison between him and Mash. I like Mash as a player and individual, but as an on field general, he has nothing on Sakib. One thing Sakib needs to improve upon is his man management skills. That will come. But, Sakib is the present, the future, and the long term future.

[kalpurush]

Does Sakib has room for improvement? Obviously. But, there is no comparison between him and Mash. I like Mash as a player and individual, but as an on field general, he has nothing on Sakib. One thing Sakib needs to improve upon is his man management skills. That will come. But, Sakib is the present, the future, and the long term future.
Spot on Beamer bhai. Nothing else to add here for me :)

[kalpurush]

He needs to be in disciplined environment devoid of Sid-like nepotism and double standards as he will be soon thank GOD, and he will prosper as captain InshAllah.

I think so too Sohel bhai. Also, as Beamer bhai said, he needs to improve his man management skills with a course on Media MGT and PR :)

[Habib 420]

Great News Source:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2011/engine/current/match/501198.html

Gambhir: "We tried our best, 150 was a par score and we should have chased it .. But this is what T20 is all about, you set a platform, but things can change. It is a long tournament, long way to go. Holding myself back was just one of those strategies we tried, but it did not work. We can take a lot of confidence from this game, our attack will only get better when Lee and Shakib come."

[Fahim]

our kapten shud be alok kapali