Reality Check

[Isnaad]

As simple as it can be- We have gone downward. period.
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[Rabz]

One more game and we do need some break.
Seems like our boys are not mentally matured enough to deal with pressure situation.
World cup cooked them over and they are yet to recover from it.
Now the hangover is still lurking around.

[al-Sagar]

we are the same place with some improvements ...... they way recovered from being 5 down to 230 was some improvement. the main problem is way seldom get the best of most of the players. today perhaps mushfiq played his best, shahriar nafees tried hes best, and mahmudullah but others failed and we got 230, which is 70 runs short of what we could have got if we got everything right.

and when somebody like watson plays his best ..... no attack in the world can stop him. if we had the best bowlers in the world we could not have defended it

today we were down by magical innings and we could not have done anything

[simon]

actually before the WC it has been a blend of our improvment and our opposition's poor performance,
NZ played very poor cricket & Zim are weaker than us,Eng in WC were struggling ,lost to Ireland.

For us to win against good oppositions we need them to play bad cricket,as simple as that.

But for now I agree with Rabz that we need a break & we will get it looks like.

[Maysun]

the guys are mentally worn out! they need a break from cricket. regroup, hit the nets, sort out all the problems. hasty decisions will get us no where!

[amar11432]

One more game and we do need some break.
Seems like our boys are not mentally matured enough to deal with pressure situation.
World cup cooked them over and they are yet to recover from it.
Now the hangover is still lurking around.

Then I guess every game against G8 team is a "pressure situation" cause BD showing no improvement

[Abirz]

What the **** did we all just witness?! I'm still in shock, almost feels surreal to watch that kind of hitting, felt like I was playing stick cricket with Watson
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[max410]

u have to understand we just we never a good team we dont have good domestic cricket structure to become and world class test team we got the status because of Sabehr hossain and Dahlmiah
soon ICC will take our status away then we will realize what mistakes we made

[Isnaad]

u have to understand we just we never a good team we dont have good domestic cricket structure to become and world class test team we got the status because of Sabehr hossain and Dahlmiah
soon ICC will take our status away then we will realize what mistakes we made

That is going to be even more humiliating.
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[Rabz]

Then I guess every game against G8 team is a "pressure situation" cause BD showing no improvement

I was merely referring the World cup situation.
Our team playes bilateral/tri series tournament on a regular basis.
But the weight of expectation during the World Cup was too much for them to bear and it shows.
Being the host nation and also our back to back series win prior to the world cup lofted our expectation to a new height and that cooked the players off.
They are still recovering from that.

[mar umpire]

"We are champions boys"

[amar11432]

I was merely referring the World cup situation.
Our team playes bilateral/tri series tournament on a regular basis.
But the weight of expectation during the World Cup was too much for them to bear and it shows.
Being the host nation and also our back to back series win prior to the world cup lofted our expectation to a new height and that cooked the players off.
They are still recovering from that.

Only school boys should have those sort of hangover not Professional sportsmen who makes are making millions $$$.

[Asif68]

Icc should take test, odi and even t20 status away and make these fools play street cricket

[al-Sagar]

What the **** did we all just witness?! I'm still in shock, almost feels surreal to watch that kind of hitting, felt like I was playing stick cricket with Watson
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i actually expected SN to play an innings like Watson

[bd fan]

Batting line up for next match:

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Imrul Kayes
3.Shariah Nafees
4.Mahmudullah
5.Shakib Al Hasan
6.Mushfiqur Rahim
7.Shuvo
8.Alok Kapali/ Shuvagoto Hom
9.Shafiul Islam
10.Abdur Razzak
11.Rubel Hossain

12th man Shuvagoto Hom/Alok Kapali- play them when razzak is not bowling. Razzak is fat and hopeless at fielding.

[Sakib]

still believe? ^_-

[cricket_king]

When you have players like Rakibul Hasan in the team, it's hard to move forward.

[Baundule]

We need a big change in mentality from the players, the team management and fans. Excuse culture must be got rid of. Look at Shane Warne. That old guy wins matches with no names in his side. We need a motivator like him as our head coach. The players (not those XV only) have the physical ability; it they are handled properly, we can fight against any oppoisition and win regularly.

[Baundule]

When you have players like Rakibul Hasan in the team, it's hard to move forward.
Actually it is not Roq's fault. When he played that match-losing innings in the practice match, I wanted to drop him. In cricket attitude is a very important thing. When he was selected ahead of Alok and Hom based on this innings, he got the wrong message from the selectors that he can play for saving his own a## than for the team.

[Akib]

Only school boys should have those sort of hangover not Professional sportsmen who makes are making millions $$$.

They aren't the only people who have this hangover. Many professional athlete's can succumb to the pressure.


Anyways, I think the players need a rest. They are mentally worn out after an up and down couple of months. I wish this series was delayed to allow for some rest.

[BangladeshFan]

Bd basically needs to stop playing cricket. The taklu needs to be thrown out of coaching and Sakib needs to resign from captaincy. Scrap all their tours for a year. If we dont , ICC would anyway.

This watson could have scored 300 today.Man is this embarrassment or what??

[Shaan]

Actually it is not Roq's fault. When he played that match-losing innings in the practice match, I wanted to drop him. In cricket attitude is a very important thing. When he was selected ahead of Alok and Hom based on this innings, he got the wrong message from the selectors that he can play for saving his own a## than for the team.
exactly..The brainless selectors, they have cowdung in their brain. The should have played Alok and Hom in place of Rakib and Razzak. Too many left arm spinners are too much predictable. And rock 29 balls run one is killing us, taking us nowhere..

[BangladeshFan]

They aren't the only people who have this hangover. Many professional athlete's can succumb to the pressure.


Anyways, I think the players need a rest. They are mentally worn out after an up and down couple of months. I wish this series was delayed to allow for some rest.

Australia played longer than Bd in WC and they are touring not Bd. How come they are not worn out??

Our hopeless crap team needs to be thrown out from everything, and save from embrassment.

[ahnaf]

One more game and we do need some break.
Seems like our boys are not mentally matured enough to deal with pressure situation.
World cup cooked them over and they are yet to recover from it.
Now the hangover is still lurking around.

im feeling the same.. They need a break from cricket..

[beshideshi]

I think the boys played reasonably well today, coming from 88-5 to score 229 against an Australian team is no mean feat. And I don't think there is anything the bowling side can do when a batsman plays as well as Watto played today, the way he was clearing the boundary was absolutely unreal.

I think it would be extremely unfair to say that we have not developed/improved. Most of the batsmen are now technically better compared to any previous team, the mental strength has also increased. if you look at the number of close games Bangladesh has pulled off, you would understand that. The bowling unit, specially the pace unit is better than ever before.

But the reality is, still we are quite a way behind the big 6 teams, we still need heaps more consistency from our batsman to become a real force in world cricket, and you meant this by "reality check".

[Night_wolf]

still believe? ^_-

yes..dunia ultay geleo ai forum er belief jabena....but we really really need a good domestic structure..i mean how even we dared to win the WC with this domestic crap!

[Night_wolf]

But the reality is, still we are quite a way behind the big 6 teams, we still need heaps more consistency from our batsman to become a real force in world cricket, and you meant this by "reality check".

with this mentality and this domestic cricket and "Vaat" fitness these Batswomen would never become world class

[Zeeshan]

One more game and we do need some break.
Seems like our boys are not mentally matured enough to deal with pressure situation.
World cup cooked them over and they are yet to recover from it.
Now the hangover is still lurking around.

if you cant handle the heat get out of kitchen.

the fact is we suck. amra choli patay patay tara choley shiray shiray. or is it the other way around. they got nothing to lose. for them cricket is more than life. for us it's a chore. they got balls, we are sissy. we are lacklustre shaky in our approach, they are strong determinant and showed INTENT. by they i mean the likes of sehwag, mcullum, watson. they set the bar that high, we are satisfied with mediocrity. they live to leave their names on world records, we play just to get by. teams are at completely different level. they are hardworking, ambitious, we are sissies and easily satisfied.

hope that's good for a comparative analysis.

btw i am not venting at you...just countering the fact our teams should stop pulling excuses after excuses... just suck it up, accept it that you (i mean the team) sucks, and WORK HARDER, strive, and meet your goals. :)

[AsifTheManRahman]

if you cant handle the heat get out of kitchen.

the fact is we suck. amra choli patay patay tara choley shiray shiray. or is it the other way around. they got nothing to lose. for them cricket is more than life. for us it's a chore. they got balls, we are sissy. we are lacklustre shaky in our approach, they are strong determinant and showed INTENT. by they i mean the likes of sehwag, mcullum, watson. they set the bar that high, we are satisfied with mediocrity. they live to leave their names on world records, we play just to get by. teams are at completely different level. they are hardworking, ambitious, we are sissies and easily satisfied.

hope that's good for a comparative analysis.

btw i am not venting at you...just countering the fact our teams should stop pulling excuses after excuses... just suck it up, accept it that you (i mean the team) sucks, and WORK HARDER, strive, and meet your goals. :)
Exactly. UK giye Netherlands er kase baash khawar por break. World Cup e 6ta game khele break. Taile khelar e ba dorkar ki? Boshay boshay beton dilei hoy.

[BANFAN]

im feeling the same.. They need a break from cricket..

If you really feel that, then we arent fit to play at this level. That's the reality.

Look at Aus, India, SA .... they are playing without any break for last 6 months and yet up for performing in ICL or Ausies against us.

I don;t know what's the actual problem. When the head coach has problem with focus and in chosing the right strategy, you can expect the team to behave like headless chickens.

If they look stressed, that doesnt mean they need a break, they just need a kick to rise up to play at this level. A slight motivation and toughness amongst the team management would make the team tougher.

[BANFAN]

Exactly. UK giye Netherlands er kase baash khawar por break. World Cup e 6ta game khele break. Taile khelar e ba dorkar ki? Boshay boshay beton dilei hoy.

Perfect

[SMHasan]

I was merely referring the World cup situation.
Our team playes bilateral/tri series tournament on a regular basis.
But the weight of expectation during the World Cup was too much for them to bear and it shows.
Being the host nation and also our back to back series win prior to the world cup lofted our expectation to a new height and that cooked the players off.
They are still recovering from that.

Rabz, I understand that it was really difficult for the team to digest what happened at the WC and they need some time to realize what really went wrong. As supporters we are a bit of tired too after seeing so much disasters at our own backyard. But it's the professionalism that counts. These players are professional enough to take this. For example if we have a bad at the office then do we take a day off after that normally? No, we still go to the office and try to make thins right.

Player life is same, it's a job, more than a job to be honest. And there should be no excuse that we failed miserably.

Yes all of them should go back and have some rest and try to think from out of the box 'if' they can. But I don't think they ever think about their game at all. They don't learn much, they don't study much about the game of cricket .

[zainab]

From what I have read, it seems that the national players will be playing in domestic cricket after this Aussie series, no international matches for a few months which is good for them. BTW, when is the next international series?

[Banglatiger84]

Yes we need a reality check, but why does Bangladesh attract so much vitriol from fans of other countries? Do we play with bad sportsmanship? Are our players prone to cheat or throw matches?

Every Cricinfo article on Bangladesh attracts a whole boatload of fans, mostly from a couple of countries who are hellbent on claiming we are the worst country to play cricket.

Barring Tamim Iqbal occassionally, and Shakib (though tagging him as the best allrounder in the world is a BIG joke), they don't have a single player good enough to play street cricket. And I have real doubts on the brains of ICC...they retain teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe ever as permanent members, but the likes of Ireland and Netherlands bite the dust. To be honest, teams like BAN should not be allowed to play anything other than t20, that too against sides like Afghanistan, where the chances of occassional upsets are more. Watching Bangladesh play is a pain, and all they do is provide a platform where opponents can make records. Period.

[beshideshi]

with this mentality and this domestic cricket and "Vaat" fitness these Batswomen would never become world class

We still need lots of improvement in every department to compete against big teams regularly.
The main problem I think is, we don't have a sporting culture at all. Barring cricket, no other sport even guarantees the top 50 players with a stable income. We can only hope more money is spent in sports to develop a culture, as more and more people will take sports seriously, the issue with fitness will slowly disappear.

And about the quality of domestic, I think it will take time. Heaps more time. Say right now the first class comp is going on with say top 30 players of the nation. Still teams are batting out 100+ overs with ease. I know the bowling isn't threatening, but the patience of our batters are increasing. There is no alternates of having more games to improve the quality of domestic. Maybe start a second first class comp, or have two seasons[each season is 3 month long anyways] of first class cricket.

Yes, I am still very optimistic. But if you are not, you shouldn't be in this forum :p go to icf/man U forums :P

[beshideshi]

Yes we need a reality check, but why does Bangladesh attract so much vitriol from fans of other countries? Do we play with bad sportsmanship? Are our players prone to cheat or throw matches?

Every Cricinfo article on Bangladesh attracts a whole boatload of fans, mostly from a couple of countries who are hellbent on claiming we are the worst country to play cricket.

Barring Tamim Iqbal occassionally, and Shakib (though tagging him as the best allrounder in the world is a BIG joke), they don't have a single player good enough to play street cricket. And I have real doubts on the brains of ICC...they retain teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe ever as permanent members, but the likes of Ireland and Netherlands bite the dust. To be honest, teams like BAN should not be allowed to play anything other than t20, that too against sides like Afghanistan, where the chances of occassional upsets are more. Watching Bangladesh play is a pain, and all they do is provide a platform where opponents can make records. Period.

Just go on ANY youtube video of a Pakistani bowling/Indian batting or even a Pakistani music video and you will thousands of such comments. Don't give too much attention to them, these people are just unhappy with their lives and want to belittle others to make themselves look/feel better. Also known as internet trolls.

[lamisa]

i still believe...one day...morar age ekbar bd world champion hobe dekhe jaite chai

[Night_wolf]

We still need lots of improvement in every department to compete against big teams regularly.
The main problem I think is, we don't have a sporting culture at all. Barring cricket, no other sport even guarantees the top 50 players with a stable income. We can only hope more money is spent in sports to develop a culture, as more and more people will take sports seriously, the issue with fitness will slowly disappear.

And about the quality of domestic, I think it will take time. Heaps more time. Say right now the first class comp is going on with say top 30 players of the nation. Still teams are batting out 100+ overs with ease. I know the bowling isn't threatening, but the patience of our batters are increasing. There is no alternates of having more games to improve the quality of domestic. Maybe start a second first class comp, or have two seasons[each season is 3 month long anyways] of first class cricket.

Yes, I am still very optimistic. But if you are not, you shouldn't be in this forum :p go to icf/man U forums :P

haha...i am not that optimistic i agree!:)...But regardless or not BD cricket structure and its players fitness level needs change..its a shame calling this bunch professional athletes..Just being optimistic and believing and doing nothing wont do any good

[simon]

i still believe...one day...morar age ekbar bd world champion hobe dekhe jaite chai

tbh,I don't mind if i never get to see us lifting the trophy,I would just love to see us among the top 5 odi teams .

[nadim 98]

i still believe...one day...morar age ekbar bd world champion hobe dekhe jaite chai

Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!


But i would be happy to see if you can go to top 4 in both Test and ODI before i die :)...kintu...hower songkha kom....2012 beshi dure nai...:waiting: :-p

Joy Bangla!!!:fanflag:

[Isnaad]

i still believe...one day...morar age ekbar bd world champion hobe dekhe jaite chai

Bangladesh? World Champion? Hobe na. :(. I don't believe.
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[One World]

Boycott has the same wish for England.

[Isnaad]

Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!


But i would be happy to see if you can go to top 4 in both Test and ODI before i die :)...kintu...hower songkha kom....2012 beshi dure nai...:waiting: :-p

Joy Bangla!!!:fanflag:

2012 e jodi prithibi destroy hoye jay, then all my property is yours. Howzaat?
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[Isnaad]

Boycott has the same wish for England.

England atleast won a t20 and football world cup....:sigh:
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[Night_wolf]

England atleast won a t20 and football world cup....*sigh*
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u know if u just write : : instead of * * then it shows a smiley!:-p

[Isnaad]

u know if u just write : : instead of * * then it shows a smiley!:-p

Disadvantage of using a cellphone as it doesnt give u the pile of smileys. :/
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[Isnaad]

Ok now thats better. Thnx bro. :)
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[pial]

Reality check.. What is you expectation from #9 with #1 ?

[Isnaad]

Reality check.. What is you expectation from #9 with #1 ?

A fight. Troubling the superior with moments of pride and glory. Earning the praises of the Aussies. Are these too much to ask for? Jaatir bibeg er kachhe amar proshno.
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[pial]

A fight. Troubling the superior with moments of pride and glory. Earning the praises of the Aussies. Are these too much to ask for? Jaatir bibeg er kachhe amar proshno.

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Why uplifting pride and glory is the sole responsibility of the Cricket team only? Why don't we ask for it for other parts of the society to earn some respect from the superior nations? Because they can't and our cricketers has done it several times in past. Therefore we try to find consolation win from the cricketers while losing in almost all other aspects of life.

[Isnaad]

Why uplifting pride and glory is the sole responsibility of the Cricket team only? Why don't we ask for it for other parts of the society to earn some respect from the superior nations? Because they can't and our cricketers has done it several times in past. Therefore we try to find consolation win from the cricketers while losing in almost all other aspects of life.

Well, exactly! Cricket can only give that to us for the present. It definitely isnt too much to expect. :(
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[Baundule]

When the term 'reality' appears in any BC thread, I always remeber Anisul Haque. Does he write those 'belive' articles any more?

[Isnaad]

When the term 'reality' appears in any BC thread, I always remeber Anisul Haque. Does he write those 'belive' articles any more?

Yes, I saw a few in Prothom Alo during wc.
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[Baundule]

Why uplifting pride and glory is the sole responsibility of the Cricket team only? Why don't we ask for it for other parts of the society to earn some respect from the superior nations? Because they can't and our cricketers has done it several times in past. Therefore we try to find consolation win from the cricketers while losing in almost all other aspects of life.
So, it is like when AL does something bad, then bringing BNP did something worse.

Here we are talking about cricket and the poster is asking for the minimum of fight from the team. It does not mean that he is happy with every other aspect of our social life. Is it so difficult to comprehend?

In reality, you can not do well in every aspect of life. But you have to capitalize on things you are good at. We have a set of corrupted politicians, we have a huge population, we are poor etc. etc. But we are one of the best 10 cricket teams in the world and therefore, we have to capitalize on this. Being poor does not mean we should not fight to win a cricket match. Simple, isn't it?

[Isnaad]

So, it is like when AL does something bad, then bringing BNP did something worse.

Here we are talking about cricket and the poster is asking for the minimum of fight from the team. It does not mean that he is happy with every other aspect of our social life. Is it so difficult to comprehend?

In reality, you can not do well in every aspect of life. But you have to capitalize on things you are good at. We have a set of corrupted politicians, we have a huge population, we are poor etc. etc. But we are one of the best 10 cricket teams in the world and therefore, we have to capitalize on this. Being poor does not mean we should not fight to win a cricket match. Simple, isn't it?

:up:
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[Zunaid]

I always say this: The reality is that we are in the TOP 10 as a cricketing power. In what other arena can we say this?

[Sohel]

I always say this: The reality is that we are in the TOP 10 as a cricketing power. In what other arena can we say this?

MashAllah bro. Now that's what I call a conversation-stopper :)

[Zunaid]

MashAllah bro. Now that's what I call a conversation-stopper :)

But it is always good to have a reality check. How appropriate is this article by me from 2004? I should have read this myself before the WC. :)

http://www.banglacricket.com/html/article.php?item=170

Almost exactly 7 years ago.

[Isnaad]

I always say this: The reality is that we are in the TOP 10 as a cricketing power. In what other arena can we say this?

The reality check I was trying to talk about is the fact that our spirit, performance and everything regarding these have gone down. Its undeniable.
I just hope the tigers prove me wrong. I believe. Theyre capable.
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