View Full Version : Stuart Law or Mick Newell ?!?
M_R_H
June 14, 2011, 03:27 AM
There was a thread over Barnes and Law selection...However, things have shortened up between Law and Newell now...anyone of them will be our probable Head Coach.
I personally go for Mick Newell...please state your choice and reasons.
Sakib
June 14, 2011, 03:58 AM
coaches are overrated anyway. so meh....
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 06:02 AM
As long as the coach can speak English, hold a ball and try to win, then we're okay.... not.
abu2abu
June 14, 2011, 06:05 AM
I'm not sure. Newell has good coaching pedigree, but the only representative side he has ever coached is England Under 19s.
Law at least has been involved in international cricket with Sri Lanka. Vincent Barnes would have been a good choice.
I think Law will get it, but Newell might be the better appointment...
samircreep
June 14, 2011, 08:02 AM
You dont need to play the game 'at the highest level' to be a great coach.
I have never been a CEO of even the local cha er dokan, but I can guarantee you that I can do a better job than Loitta as BCB prez.
Avik
June 14, 2011, 08:05 AM
who ever doesnt want to ditch our cricket team during IPL. that person will give their 100%, not thinking about how to earn quick buck during IPL.
abu2abu
June 14, 2011, 09:06 AM
You dont need to play the game 'at the highest level' to be a great coach.
I have never been a CEO of even the local cha er dokan, but I can guarantee you that I can do a better job than Loitta as BCB prez.
I'm not sure who that was aimed at.
To clarify my post, I wasn't referring to playing at the highest level but rather noting that Newell has never coached a representative side before.
By that I mean, as far as I am aware, he has never coached an 'A' team or national side (either as coach or assistant coach).
Siddons had been on the Australian coaching staff in 2005, Law was with Sri Lanka as was Dav Whatmore.
He could still be a good choice, but Newell has only ever coached first class counties and England Under 19s....
Rabz
June 14, 2011, 09:14 AM
Obostha ja darachche, tate jake pawa jae tatei khushi.
khankm
June 14, 2011, 09:18 AM
Newell worked with 'England Lions', which is basically the England 'A' Team. Some newspapers have been misreporting saying that he coached the under 19 English side.
firstlane
June 14, 2011, 09:49 AM
Newell has only ever coached first class counties and England Under 19s....
County teams still beat us comfortably. If he is a proven coach at the county level we should take him.
Ian Pont
June 14, 2011, 11:16 AM
Newell worked with 'England Lions', which is basically the England 'A' Team. Some newspapers have been misreporting saying that he coached the under 19 English side.
He has coached both sides so the reports are correct.
On another subject, you guys need to end this "he has not been involved as a coach at this level before' nonsense.
Ottis Gibson (WI), John Buchanan (AUS), Gary Kirsten (IND), Stuart Law (SL), Tom Moody (SL), Mickey Arthur (SA), Andy Flower (ENG), Waqar Younis (PAK), Dav Whatmore etc etc etc etc etc, all first time international coaches when they took their jobs.
A world class or first class coach is a coach regardless of the level of the team he coaches. It is probably desirable if that coach has coached and worked with players at development level, too - helping bring players through from beneath international cricket. This means he understands what needs to happen to improve teams and is not just a show pony.
darkFalgun
June 14, 2011, 11:26 AM
Ottis Gibson (WI), John Buchanan (AUS), Gary Kirsten (IND), Stuart Law (SL), Tom Moody (SL), Mickey Arthur (SA), Andy Flower (ENG), Waqar Younis (PAK), Dav Whatmore etc etc etc etc etc, all first time international coaches when they took their jobs.
A world class or first class coach is a coach regardless of the level of the team he coaches. It is probably desirable if that coach has coached and worked with players at development level, too
I expressed similar opinion in another coach-related thread. And from what i've seen in some forums, he is being considered as the future England HC. He also does not have temporary want-aways during ipl or big bash. so my vote: NEWELL in a heart beat.
reyme
June 14, 2011, 12:11 PM
I think Pont has summarized it nicely! I would love to see the coach work with his passion, wants to win at any cost from any situation. Coaching is not a part time job. Like the players, the more they practice the better they get, same with the coach the more time they spend on coaching, teaching, preparing and working on gameplans etc. the they better off they will be. Any please work with 30+ players, not just playing 11...
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 12:15 PM
People need to realise that being a top-class int'l player does not automatically make you a good coach :)
nakedzero
June 14, 2011, 12:35 PM
There was a thread over Barnes and Law selection...However, things have shortened up between Law and Newell now...anyone of them will be our probable Head Coach.
I personally go for Mick Newell...please state your choice and reasons.
Share the source please.
MohammedC
June 14, 2011, 12:47 PM
We need a poll.
My vote would have gone to Stuart Law but without the IPL/Big Bash option. So at this moment I will go for Mick Newell.
deshimon
June 14, 2011, 01:15 PM
I don't have any objection about those two coaches of their capability or skills. But I cann't understand on which basis BCB want to choose a coach and which skill they give preference selecting a coach?
MarvinDaMartian
June 14, 2011, 01:51 PM
I don't have any objection about those two coaches of their capability or skills. But I cann't understand on which basis BCB want to choose a coach and which skill they give preference selecting a coach?
A general job description was posted on newspapers when BCB advertised the post of head coach. I guess BCB have a list of more specific requirements for the coach. the advert stated something like experience in coaching test/first class team, and playing test/first class.
deshimon
June 14, 2011, 02:40 PM
BCB waits for green signal
Sports Reporter
Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) is awaiting confirmation from the impending head coach of the national cricket team.
BCB CEO Manzur Ahmed, who confirmed last week that they will confirm the deal within their target timeline of June 15, told the Daily Star Sport yesterday that the confirmation can come any time.
"We are waiting everyday for the confirmation because it is now a matter of time. We get it and it can come any time," said Manzur, without elaborating on anything when inquired about the timeline.
BCB has finalised the whole thing regarding appointment of the new coach for the Tigers but they were not ready to disclose the name until receiving confirmation from their desired man.
It is all but confirmed that Australian Stuart Law, who is now accompanying the Sri Lanka team in England as an interim head coach, is going to take the helm of the Tigers if everything goes smoothly but it may take few more days.
The third and final Test between England and Sri Lanka is from June 16 to 20.
www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=190061
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 02:42 PM
^^^ And I will laugh at BD newspapers if it is not Law.
And I can't beleive a week has passed. This is a sign of Akhira. I can't believe I thought a week would be long.
Fazal
June 14, 2011, 02:50 PM
So we are waiting for his decision then?
He would look nice with green outfit..
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/yw/2002/10/26/images/2002102600050201.jpg
Catskills
June 14, 2011, 02:57 PM
I wish BCB appoints soomeone from South Africa.
deshimon
June 14, 2011, 03:20 PM
They said coach would be appointed untill 15 June and today will cross the dateline.
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 03:22 PM
They said coach would be appointed untill 15 June and today will cross the dateline.
Well tomorrow is the deadline. If they don't, I will have lost complete trust in BCB. I will support Ireland.
Lol, pfffft, like I'll ever do that?
deshimon
June 14, 2011, 03:31 PM
You have trust in BCB yet?
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 03:32 PM
You have trust in BCB yet?
Well after seeing them hiring people life Pont and Fountain, I'm thinking why can't they do something like that again :)
MarufH
June 14, 2011, 03:51 PM
He has coached both sides so the reports are correct.
On another subject, you guys need to end this "he has not been involved as a coach at this level before' nonsense.
Ottis Gibson (WI), John Buchanan (AUS), Gary Kirsten (IND), Stuart Law (SL), Tom Moody (SL), Mickey Arthur (SA), Andy Flower (ENG), Waqar Younis (PAK), Dav Whatmore etc etc etc etc etc, all first time international coaches when they took their jobs.
A world class or first class coach is a coach regardless of the level of the team he coaches. It is probably desirable if that coach has coached and worked with players at development level, too - helping bring players through from beneath international cricket. This means he understands what needs to happen to improve teams and is not just a show pony.
Ian, would you shed some light on Mick, please? Have you ever worked with him... how is he as a person? Like Chappel/Siddons/ or Gary?
Thanks
Fazal
June 14, 2011, 03:54 PM
This June 15 is a self imposed date from CEO. Yes it would be nice if they can meet their self imposed deadline.
But it’s more important that at the end up getting a decent coach whether it by tomorrow or by one month from now. Meeting self imposed deadline is less important to me, getting the best optioned coach based on reality is more important to me.
It’s not a must meet deadline, it’s a self imposed targeted deadline which I really liked (instead of no target deadline). It ok to me to miss the dead line by few weeks as long as they make best used of that time to find a decent coach.
So no rush from my end, I am willing to wait a little longer and give them the benefit of doubt.
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 04:02 PM
This June 15 is a self imposed date from CEO. Yes it would be nice if they can meet their self imposed deadline.
But it’s more important that at the end up getting a decent coach whether it by tomorrow or by one month from now. Meeting self imposed deadline is less important to me, getting the best optioned coach based on reality is more important to me.
It’s not a must meet deadline, it’s a self imposed targeted deadline which I really liked (instead of no target deadline). It ok to me to miss the dead line by few weeks as long as they make best used of that time to find a decent coach.
So no rush from my end, I am willing to wait a little longer and give them the benefit of doubt.
And who will coach them in the follow up to the Zimbo series?
Fazal
June 14, 2011, 04:06 PM
And who will coach them in the follow up to the Zimbo series?
One week here and there is not going to change anything even the outcome of ZIM series.
Its more important that we get the right guy who will lead us for next 4+ years.
Ian Pont
June 14, 2011, 04:16 PM
Ian, would you shed some light on Mick, please? Have you ever worked with him... how is he as a person? Like Chappel/Siddons/ or Gary?
Thanks
I played cricket with him and against him as a player - and he is widely regarded in UK coaching as one of the best head coaches in first class cricket here. My personal view is he would be an outstanding candidate and has been to Bangladesh before so does know Dhaka.
Mick is a solid batting coach and has a really nice 'easy going' style, which can be somewhat different to the Australian outspoken approach. I think a foreign coach has to somehow embrace Bangladesh and not try to change it. Give players their space and get them to take responsibility themselves instead of forcing them and threatening them.
However I feel all this talk of Mick Newell is irrelevant as I cannot see the board getting past Stuart Law as the next head coach.
I think the people making the decision have set their mind on Stuart Law regardless. All that probably remains is working out how much time the board will allow him to go to the IPL or the Big Bash, as coach there.
The thing about coaching is most of it is done BEFORE a series and not during, so if the deal is to allow a coach to go off and work elsewhere 'because there is no series' then the coach would be leaving at the very time coaching is needed most.
So I would be starting to prepare for Stuart Law guys. Three Australian head coaches in a row...... good luck!
Banglaguy
June 14, 2011, 04:25 PM
I played cricket with him and against him as a player - and he is widely regarded in UK coaching as one of the best head coaches in first class cricket here. My personal view is he would be an outstanding candidate and has been to Bangladesh before so does know Dhaka.
Mick is a solid batting coach and has a really nice 'easy going' style, which can be somewhat different to the Australian outspoken approach. I think a foreign coach has to somehow embrace Bangladesh and not try to change it. Give players their space and get them to take responsibility themselves instead of forcing them and threatening them.
However I feel all this talk of Mick Newell is irrelevant as I cannot see the board getting past Stuart Law as the next head coach.
I think the people making the decision have set their mind on Stuart Law regardless. All that probably remains is working out how much time the board will allow him to go to the IPL or the Big Bash, as coach there.
The thing about coaching is most of it is done BEFORE a series and not during, so if the deal is to allow a coach to go off and work elsewhere 'because there is no series' then the coach would be leaving at the very time coaching is needed most.
So I would be starting to prepare for Stuart Law guys. Three Australian head coaches in a row...... good luck!
Ian, if Law accepted, would he leave for BD immediately and leave SL, or would he have to finish the tour first?
Ian Pont
June 14, 2011, 04:31 PM
Ian, if Law accepted, would he leave for BD immediately and leave SL, or would he have to finish the tour first?
Not sure. According to reports he is contracted until November so I have no idea what notice period he has to serve. If he has a job to go to (Bangladesh) I guess he can just go from one job to the other financially, so could in theory go when he wanted to if the contract allows. If however, he has a 30-day, 60-day or whatever period notice he would have to serve that.
Then again if someone wants to leave this type of post it is unusual for en employer to make them stay. Particularly if they are meant to be running things. No one wants an unhappy head coach.
MarufH
June 14, 2011, 04:41 PM
I played cricket with him and against him as a player - and he is widely regarded in UK coaching as one of the best head coaches in first class cricket here. My personal view is he would be an outstanding candidate and has been to Bangladesh before so does know Dhaka.
Mick is a solid batting coach and has a really nice 'easy going' style, which can be somewhat different to the Australian outspoken approach. I think a foreign coach has to somehow embrace Bangladesh and not try to change it. Give players their space and get them to take responsibility themselves instead of forcing them and threatening them.
However I feel all this talk of Mick Newell is irrelevant as I cannot see the board getting past Stuart Law as the next head coach.
I think the people making the decision have set their mind on Stuart Law regardless. All that probably remains is working out how much time the board will allow him to go to the IPL or the Big Bash, as coach there.
The thing about coaching is most of it is done BEFORE a series and not during, so if the deal is to allow a coach to go off and work elsewhere 'because there is no series' then the coach would be leaving at the very time coaching is needed most.
So I would be starting to prepare for Stuart Law guys. Three Australian head coaches in a row...... good luck!
Thanks Ian... but oh mannnnnn.... I was hoping for Mick....I rather have experienced first class coach then 2 game international player... arggghhh...
betaar
June 14, 2011, 05:27 PM
Three Australian head coaches in a row...... good luck!
Is that sarcasm I hear or am I hearing things, Ian? :-p
Would you consider coming again for a stint with yet another OZ coach?
M_R_H
June 14, 2011, 08:58 PM
Nice response from everyone...looks like most of us are in for Nick...good luck to all of us lol...!
M_R_H
June 14, 2011, 08:59 PM
Share the source please.
It has been mentioned in newspapers for a while now bro...please check them. Some have been posted in BC as well...
M_R_H
June 14, 2011, 09:03 PM
We need a poll.
My vote would have gone to Stuart Law but without the IPL/Big Bash option. So at this moment I will go for Mick Newell.
Lets just wait and see somehow...! I wish BCB showed even an atom-size interest in our polls...
Crickbang
June 15, 2011, 12:38 AM
We won't be getting a coach anytime soon. Sarwar Imran or Shujan could be the interim coach for ZIM tour, according to Noya Digonto (sports section).
http://www.dailynoyadigonto.com/
Dhakablues
June 15, 2011, 01:11 AM
We won't be getting a coach anytime soon. Sarwar Imran or Shujan could be the interim coach for ZIM tour, according to Noya Digonto (sports section).
http://www.dailynoyadigonto.com/
Not that I trust that source either but it is a good decision. I support having a recognized coach to get things rolling than hoping that 'conditioning' will win matches without any batting or bowling.. Both these coaches have experience working for the national team and both should be appointed to help the team.
Let the hirning decision take its own course and let it happen when it does. I am also happy that Turner was not appointed as the interim coach. We all know what happened to Shawn Williams and we lost a great Game Development Manager all together by asking him to become a national coach when he was not hired to do so..
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 02:33 AM
Not that I trust that source either but it is a good decision. I support having a recognized coach to get things rolling than hoping that 'conditioning' will win matches without any batting or bowling.. Both these coaches have experience working for the national team and both should be appointed to help the team.
Let the hirning decision take its own course and let it happen when it does. I am also happy that Turner was not appointed as the interim coach. We all know what happened to Shawn Williams and we lost a great Game Development Manager all together by asking him to become a national coach when he was not hired to do so..
I mentioned this previously elsewhere, but Grant Luden is a Level 3 coach and would be able to take the reins as an interim coach if needed. Grant has experience as a head coach at lower level sides and been successful in senior cricket (not first class) BUT he still understands the role. It could be that he could simply keep things going until a HC was appointed.
Grant has been with the team for three years now and knows what is what. Now that Jamie has gone we also see how well he is doing as 'his own man' and being allowed to run the training properly.
Grant doesn't want the job of HC and is a seriously talented conditioning coach, but in the short term he could really keep everything on an even keel. That's because he coaches well and understands the game at this level. We could do worse than having him.
abu2abu
June 15, 2011, 03:54 AM
He has coached both sides so the reports are correct.
On another subject, you guys need to end this "he has not been involved as a coach at this level before' nonsense.
Ottis Gibson (WI), John Buchanan (AUS), Gary Kirsten (IND), Stuart Law (SL), Tom Moody (SL), Mickey Arthur (SA), Andy Flower (ENG), Waqar Younis (PAK), Dav Whatmore etc etc etc etc etc, all first time international coaches when they took their jobs.
A world class or first class coach is a coach regardless of the level of the team he coaches. It is probably desirable if that coach has coached and worked with players at development level, too - helping bring players through from beneath international cricket. This means he understands what needs to happen to improve teams and is not just a show pony.
It's a question of perception Ian. I don't think Newell will be bad coach and I've said that in all my posts on this thread. In fact I suspect he'd be better at the job than Law.
However, the guys who appoint the coach (and in particular the President of the BCB) are obssessed with having a big name. This is either someone with huge coaching pedigree (like Moody etc) or a big name cricketer like Warne or Jonty Rhodes.
For this reason I think it's more likely that Law will get the job. That's just my opinion, who knows what will happen?...
fuzzy
June 15, 2011, 04:06 AM
this is confusing me now. who is it to be?
abu2abu
June 15, 2011, 04:14 AM
this is confusing me now. who is it to be?
80% chance it'll be Law.
However, he may not start until after the Zim series so there is speculation that Shujon will be coach for that series only until Law can start...
Banglaguy
June 15, 2011, 04:27 AM
I think they should leave Grant Luden as the intern coach up until the Zimbabwe series.
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 05:39 AM
It's a question of perception Ian. I don't think Newell will be bad coach and I've said that in all my posts on this thread. In fact I suspect he'd be better at the job than Law.
However, the guys who appoint the coach (and in particular the President of the BCB) are obssessed with having a big name. This is either someone with huge coaching pedigree (like Moody etc) or a big name cricketer like Warne or Jonty Rhodes.
For this reason I think it's more likely that Law will get the job. That's just my opinion, who knows what will happen?...
I understand that. But Stuart Law is not a 'big name' in that context - either on the coaching or playing side. He is just better known.
Newell is a planner, good coach, great organiser and knows development. He works with Mike Hussey, Andre Adams, Stuart Broad and many other internationals.
The 'big name' idea was started by the IPL owners who don't understand cricket coaching. It's a dangerous game to gamble with the development of an entire country's cricket.
nsd3
June 15, 2011, 05:44 AM
Shujan being a non level 3 coach becomes HC and Grant (level 3) coach remains there ... How's that?
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Equinox
June 15, 2011, 06:38 AM
I understand that. But Stuart Law is not a 'big name' in that context - either on the coaching or playing side. He is just better known.
Newell is a planner, good coach, great organiser and knows development. He works with Mike Hussey, Andre Adams, Stuart Broad and many other internationals.
The 'big name' idea was started by the IPL owners who don't understand cricket coaching. It's a dangerous game to gamble with the development of an entire country's cricket.
Stephen Fleming, Graeme Swann, Samit Patel.
Without a shadow of a doubt it's Mick Newell for me. I don't want a coach who is throwing tantrums even before he has been appointed. I can't believe some people are giving Law preference just because he is interim coach of Sri Lanka. Newell has been coach of Notts, one of the top teams in the County circuit and the current holders of the County Championship, for 10 years. He has seen talent come through with the England Lions and the U19s. And all that against half a series of being head coach? And besides when you have Sangakkara, Jayawardene and Dilshan in your team the role of the head coach is minimised. It will be a travesty if Newell is actually interested and he is shunned in favour of Law. But unfortunately I can see Law bluffing his way in and fooling the BCB into giving him a big contract on his terms.
Equinox
June 15, 2011, 06:42 AM
This is what Stephen Fleming, one of the greatest captains of all-time, had to say about Newell:
The Nottinghamshire captain Stephen Fleming praised coach Mick Newell as the man responsible for helping him lead the side to their first English county title for 18 years.
After watching Andrew Harris complete the job with a season's best six for 76 to bowl Kent out for 205, Fleming drew attention to the contribution of Notts stalwart Newell who was a member of the team which won the last title in 1987.
"Mick is a very good manager. He is great behind the scenes with the players, making sure everything is in place. He has worked hard to create this side, and I have come in at the end - which is great."
Fleming was also full of praise for the reliability of his side in all departments. "It is a signature of this team that our bowling unit each have around 50 wickets, and the batsmen are very consistent too," he said. "When you get confident cricketers like we have there is always a good chance you might go and do something and maybe win a trophy."
http://www.espncricinfo.com/nottinghamshire/content/story/219528.html
Equinox
June 15, 2011, 06:44 AM
And why are the idiots at BCB imposing deadlines which they know they can't meet. No one cares when we get a coach as long as we get the right man for the job at the end.
akabir77
June 15, 2011, 07:43 AM
what i have heard it is not s law. i don't know where the media gets their info from... I will be very surprised if bcb hires law. Cause last time i talked with the ceo neither the s african or law was the contender. Now i hope its the English guy (after reading stuff). He didn't give me the name but said its a third person who was not mentioned in the media...
Banglaguy
June 15, 2011, 07:46 AM
what i have heard it is not s law. i don't know where the media gets their info from... I will be very surprised if bcb hires law. Cause last time i talked with the ceo neither the s african or law was the contender. Now i hope its the English guy (after reading stuff). He didn't give me the name but said its a third person who was not mentioned in the media...
God knows where the Bengali media gets it sources from.
beshideshi
June 15, 2011, 08:02 AM
I have just decided to disregard all the speculations/rumors/new reports. Will just wait till the name is announced, that way my brain will be saved from explosions.
MarufH
June 15, 2011, 08:52 AM
So... 15th is officially finished in Bangladesh... no news yet. Well.. I rather wait and get the best possible coach than make a quick decision and not get the best. Mick Newell seems like a good option.. but who is listening?
Fazal
June 15, 2011, 08:58 AM
.. but who is listening?
I am.
So now its between....
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aM7CoVBF2PI/S5ugEw46pPI/AAAAAAAAASw/dIqzp5KunKA/s320/143555__stuart_l.jpg
and
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/images/wiki/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Mickey_Mouse.svg/250px-Mickey_Mouse.svg.png
roman
June 15, 2011, 09:51 AM
what i have heard it is not s law. i don't know where the media gets their info from... I will be very surprised if bcb hires law. Cause last time i talked with the ceo neither the s african or law was the contender. Now i hope its the English guy (after reading stuff). He didn't give me the name but said its a third person who was not mentioned in the media...
I hope its true. Please do share with us if you hear anything else....
abu2abu
June 15, 2011, 09:54 AM
I understand that. But Stuart Law is not a 'big name' in that context - either on the coaching or playing side. He is just better known.
Newell is a planner, good coach, great organiser and knows development. He works with Mike Hussey, Andre Adams, Stuart Broad and many other internationals.
The 'big name' idea was started by the IPL owners who don't understand cricket coaching. It's a dangerous game to gamble with the development of an entire country's cricket.
That's a bit harsh on Law. Sure he's no Warne or Moody, but he was consistently one of the highest run scorers in English county cricket and is widely regarded as being unlucky not to have been played for Aus more...
But this is all moot, it'll be Law.
MarufH
June 15, 2011, 10:19 AM
That's a bit harsh on Law. Sure he's no Warne or Moody, but he was consistently one of the highest run scorers in English county cricket and is widely regarded as being unlucky not to have been played for Aus more...
But this is all moot, it'll be Law.
People that are unable to score in international level are called mediocre. He played 54 matches with an average of 26.89. Reminds me of Tushar Imran.. who does well in first class and screws up at international level.
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 10:22 AM
That's a bit harsh on Law. Sure he's no Warne or Moody, but he was consistently one of the highest run scorers in English county cricket and is widely regarded as being unlucky not to have been played for Aus more...
But this is all moot, it'll be Law.
Law has played just ONE test match for Australia and an ODI average of just 26, so hardly makes him a big name is the point I was making. And he has been assistant to SL as his very first coaching job, so again hardly a big name in coaching.
My point was he isn't a super star player or coach. If the BCB want either a super star player to be 'coach' or actually amazing coach with massive coaching credentials, then Stuart Law is neither.
Tiger444
June 15, 2011, 10:23 AM
I don't know where the media is getting this information but I read somewhere that Law said he wants to stay in Sri lanka and he believes they have a chance to be a world power in cricket. He was also quoted saying these things. I just have a hard time believing that he'll leave Sri Lanka, where he's already the interim coach for BD. Also Sri Lanka is already a well set test nation who are already competing with the best while we are still a struggling test nation. So I believe it'll be unlikely Law will be our coach.
Tiger444
June 15, 2011, 10:25 AM
Law has played just ONE test match for Australia and an ODI average of just 26, so hardly makes him a big name is the point I was making. And he has been assistant to SL as his very first coaching job, so again hardly a big name in coaching.
My point was he isn't a super star player or coach. If the BCB want either a super star player to be 'coach' or actually amazing coach with massive coaching credentials, then Stuart Law is neither.
I think you also would agree with this coach that it really doesn't matter if you played at the international level or not does it? In my opinion, I believe player credentials and coaching credentials should be kept separate.
roman
June 15, 2011, 10:31 AM
Mr Ian,
Based on your experience on working with our team, do you think our players got the capability to get the best out of a coach specially when language is a huge barrier? I am sure you did face some language issues...
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 10:32 AM
I think you also would agree with this coach that it really doesn't matter if you played at the international level or not does it? In my opinion, I believe player credentials and coaching credentials should be kept separate.
Of course I agree!!!!
I was pointing out that law doesn't qualify as a BIG NAME, which was in response to someone who said I was being harsh for saying that, that's all.
You guys don't read posts properly do you? :up:
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 10:37 AM
Mr Ian,
Based on your experience on working with our team, do you think our players got the capability to get the best out of a coach specially when language is a huge barrier? I am sure you did face some language issues...
Yes, no problem. The issue is taking responsibility themselves and accepting blame for what they do.
You have already had head coaches who appeared to want to blame others. And some players try to do the same. But a great player accepts responsibility for developing himself and his actions on and off the field. This means also training properly and being self-motivated.
In fact I am still amazed any coach at international level would have to even say those things to players. You say those things to players who are juniors and learning, not internationals who should really understand all this anyway.
If everyone understands what needs to be done then great progress can be made. Anyone should always look in the mirror each day and ask if they have done the best they can. It's only by truthfully answering 'yes' that they can sleep well.
Tiger444
June 15, 2011, 11:05 AM
Of course I agree!!!!
I was pointing out that law doesn't qualify as a BIG NAME, which was in response to someone who said I was being harsh for saying that, that's all.
You guys don't read posts properly do you? :up:
Lol. Ya I actually read that post. I just wanted to hear your opinion about that. Because a lot of people I see just want to look up coaches career statistics as a player when in reality, it is not relevant at all.
Ian Pont
June 15, 2011, 11:38 AM
Lol. Ya I actually read that post. I just wanted to hear your opinion about that. Because a lot of people I see just want to look up coaches career statistics as a player when in reality, it is not relevant at all.
I am a case in point... very, very average first class player but completely different as a coach. Being a coach is about how you well you educate, understand your area of expertise, what you understand about delivering skills to players and being a leader in the development of your discipline. I have written two books on my subject as a coach, but not a single word as a player!
Banglaguy
June 15, 2011, 11:43 AM
Then why is Law regarded as a big name? Is it because he's an aussie?
Dhakablues
June 15, 2011, 11:46 AM
Ian:
In total agreement with you. Grant is an honest guy and I am glad that atleast he is available for now.. Having additional help of Imran or Shujon, if that news was ever tru, can allow Grant to expand his planning to include things beyond conditioning. Because, I feel some key players still need 1:1 attention on their bowling, batting and fielding techniques..
Crickbang
June 15, 2011, 11:48 AM
Guys it's Stuart Law. Mick Newell finishes second.
as of now
এক সপ্তাহ’র মধ্যে ক্রিকেট কোচ!
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স্পোর্টস করেসপন্ডেন্ট
বাংলানিউজটোয়েন্ট ফোর.কম
ঢাকা: ‘কোচ কোথায়? এখনো যে এলো না। বেলা বয়ে যাচ্ছে চুক্তি করতে হবে না।’ জাতীয় ক্রিকেট দলের কোচের নিয়োগ নিয়ে রাস্তাঘাটেও মুখরোচক আলোচনা হয়। কোচের নিয়োগ নিয়ে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) কর্মকর্তারা রীতিমতো হাস্যকর হয়ে উঠেছেন।
এই হচ্ছে, হবে করতে করতে পছন্দসই কোন কোচ এখনো নিশ্চিত করতে পারেনি ক্রিকেট বোর্ড। যদিও বিসিবি প্রধান নির্বাহী মঞ্জুর আহমেদ দাবি করছেন এই মাসের মধ্যেই কোচের নিয়োগ সম্পন্ন হবে। বলছিলেন,“কয়েকটা দিন মাত্র, ধৈর্য ধরেন। আশা করি সাতদিনের মধ্যেই কোচ পেয়ে যাবো।”
তা হলে কি স্টুয়ার্ট ল? হয়তো হবে। এক সপ্তাহের মধ্যেই শ্রীলঙ্কা ইংল্যান্ড অভিযান শেষ হবে। তাদের অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন কোচ ‘ল’ সেক্ষেত্রে চলে আসতে পারেন বাংলাদেশে। যদিও কোচের নাম গোপন রেখে এগোচ্ছে বিসিবি। তবে সিইও‘র বলার ধরণ দেখে ধারণা করা যায় ল‘কে নিশ্চিত করে ফেলেছে বিসিবি।
সম্প্রতি তিনজন কোচের নাম শোনা গেছে। প্রথম জন হলেন ল, দ্বিতীয় এবং তৃতীয় জন হলেন মিক নিউয়েল ও ডেভ নখওয়ার্দী। প্রথম জন না হলে পরের দুইজনের মধ্য থেকে একজনকে নেওয়া হবে বলে জানা গেছে। শেষপর্যন্ত সেপথে হাঁটতে হচ্ছে না। প্রথম জনকেই নিশ্চিত করে ফেলেছে বিসিবি।
Crickbang
June 15, 2011, 11:48 AM
Guys it's Stuart Law. Mick Newell finishes second.
as of now
এক সপ্তাহ’র মধ্যে ক্রিকেট কোচ!
স্পোর্টস করেসপন্ডেন্ট
বাংলানিউজটোয়েন্ট ফোর.কম
ঢাকা: ‘কোচ কোথায়? এখনো যে এলো না। বেলা বয়ে যাচ্ছে চুক্তি করতে হবে না।’ জাতীয় ক্রিকেট দলের কোচের নিয়োগ নিয়ে রাস্তাঘাটেও মুখরোচক আলোচনা হয়। কোচের নিয়োগ নিয়ে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) কর্মকর্তারা রীতিমতো হাস্যকর হয়ে উঠেছেন।
এই হচ্ছে, হবে করতে করতে পছন্দসই কোন কোচ এখনো নিশ্চিত করতে পারেনি ক্রিকেট বোর্ড। যদিও বিসিবি প্রধান নির্বাহী মঞ্জুর আহমেদ দাবি করছেন এই মাসের মধ্যেই কোচের নিয়োগ সম্পন্ন হবে। বলছিলেন,“কয়েকটা দিন মাত্র, ধৈর্য ধরেন। আশা করি সাতদিনের মধ্যেই কোচ পেয়ে যাবো।”
তা হলে কি স্টুয়ার্ট ল? হয়তো হবে। এক সপ্তাহের মধ্যেই শ্রীলঙ্কা ইংল্যান্ড অভিযান শেষ হবে। তাদের অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন কোচ ‘ল’ সেক্ষেত্রে চলে আসতে পারেন বাংলাদেশে। যদিও কোচের নাম গোপন রেখে এগোচ্ছে বিসিবি। তবে সিইও‘র বলার ধরণ দেখে ধারণা করা যায় ল‘কে নিশ্চিত করে ফেলেছে বিসিবি।
সম্প্রতি তিনজন কোচের নাম শোনা গেছে। প্রথম জন হলেন ল, দ্বিতীয় এবং তৃতীয় জন হলেন মিক নিউয়েল ও ডেভ নখওয়ার্দী। প্রথম জন না হলে পরের দুইজনের মধ্য থেকে একজনকে নেওয়া হবে বলে জানা গেছে। শেষপর্যন্ত সেপথে হাঁটতে হচ্ছে না। প্রথম জনকেই নিশ্চিত করে ফেলেছে বিসিবি।
M_R_H
June 15, 2011, 11:51 AM
Lool...sounds fishy. One time its says it could not finalize the coach. Then in the end, they say "confirming" that its Law...anyone who read this article with attention will catch that....BD News24 after all...!
Murad
June 15, 2011, 11:53 AM
lolz @ cricbang
Bangladeshis(most): When its time to give, they will always wait till the last moment. But when its time to get something, they won't wait for a minute.
roman
June 15, 2011, 12:03 PM
Vai ra lets just wait till they come up with a name. This is just too much. At first they said coach issue will be solved by the 5th(?) then by the 15th. And now they want one more week. Newspapers are saying that Law will be our coach and CEO is saying something different.Etto drama kore keno shob kisu te?
MarufH
June 15, 2011, 12:47 PM
errr.....
fuadomar
June 16, 2011, 12:30 AM
Well thought out :-) , Stuart Little vs. Micky Mouse :-)
I am.
So now its between....
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aM7CoVBF2PI/S5ugEw46pPI/AAAAAAAAASw/dIqzp5KunKA/s320/143555__stuart_l.jpg
and
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/images/wiki/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Mickey_Mouse.svg/250px-Mickey_Mouse.svg.png
Crickbang
June 16, 2011, 01:15 AM
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One thing I don't understand is why can't we look past Australian coaches? Is there any mandatory rule in the BCB that says we should shut our minds off to other coaches from different countries and just hire Australians no matter how good or bad they are as coaches? So Narrow minded. Anyway, we can't do anything now. It will be Stuart Law regardless of our personal choices or opinions.
Jadukor
June 16, 2011, 01:50 AM
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One thing I don't understand is why can't we look past Australian coaches? Is there any mandatory rule in the BCB that says we should shut our minds off to other coaches from different countries and just hire Australians no matter how good or bad they are as coaches? So Narrow minded. Anyway, we can't do anything now. It will be Stuart Law regardless of our personal choices or opinions.
Don't understand what you are talking about... We had West Indian, Subcontinental coaches in the past for our team and we did approach Klusner, Barnes, Ford and Mick Newell... So its not only aussies we are after. Besides the aussies have produced great cricketers and have dominated world cricket for more than a decade so it's not a bad idea to bring in the coaches from their system.
The reality is that the cricket system and standard in Australia, England and South Africa is really good and have been for many years running. They have a larger pool of well known qualified coaches which we can approach.
Crickbang
June 16, 2011, 02:46 AM
What I am trying to say is this: Yes we did contact coaches from SA and Eng, but ultimately they are not going to be hired by the BCB. Recently, BCB is a bit too much attracted to Australian coaches, compared to those from England or South Africa. It's like they have a crush on Australian coaches or maybe it's a genetic attraction between them. I don't know. I would've liked to have a different personality with a different philosophy. A fresh set of eyes so to speak. Australians are the almost the same. We already had 2 of them as our coaches in succession(soon to be 3). Some of them make some minor changes. However, it's not going to be any different for BD players. Yes, the Aussies are good coaches and I have nothing against then, but it's time we should move on with someone from England or South Africa down the road. For now, Stuart Law is fine, considering the fact that we really had to sweat it out for more than 2 months to get ANYONE to coach the team. So Congratulations in Advance to Stuart and I wish he can coach our team for many many years with great success. Good Luck Coach :)
Rabz
June 16, 2011, 04:19 AM
ল এর ব্যপার টা নিয়ে দেখি পুরা হ জ ব র ল অবস্থা !!!
বার্নস তো পুরিয়েই দিল।
মিকির খেল এখনো বাকি ।
LBW103
June 16, 2011, 05:43 AM
TREVOR BAYLISS if he was ever a candidate, now isn't http://cricketnsw.com/news-display/Trevor-Bayliss-to-coach-the-Sixers/25003
The Sydney Sixers today appointed Trevor Bayliss as the Head Coach for the next two seasons.
Bayliss, the former Sri Lankan Head Coach, was in charge during the narrow loss to India in the recent World Cup final. In addition he was Head Coach of the RTA SpeedBlitz Blues up until 2005, where he oversaw a victorious 2004-05 Pura Cup campaign, as well as a domestic one-day trophy. Bayliss was chosen because of his proven track record in coaching, and as a player where he played 58 First class matches for New South Wales.
Sydney Sixers General Manager, Stuart Clark was delighted to have a coach of Trevor’s experience on board with the new T20 team. “Trevor is a high quality coach with a huge amount of success domestically and internationally. His ability and respect amongst the playing group provides the foundation to have a successful winning culture.”
Bayliss himself was also looking forward to the challenge of coaching the inaugural T20 team based at the home of cricket, the SCG. “NSW has plenty of talented T20 cricketers and when you potentially add in a couple of international stars, the blend of youth, ability and experience makes for a very exciting prospect. I am really looking forward to working with the Sydney Sixers at the SCG over the next few years.”
Banglaguy
June 16, 2011, 05:46 AM
Oh well, can't people just wait until it's announced or some ****?
Rabz
June 16, 2011, 06:51 AM
^^ We are waiting, its the media that's fueling all the rumors.
Banglaguy
June 16, 2011, 06:57 AM
Like Ian applying... What BS man. Getting me happy as well.
Dhakablues
June 16, 2011, 10:33 AM
When regional/county/Academy teams are getting all these high-profile coaches,,, I wonder what is it that BCB has in their contact ( or who is contacting these coaches) that is making them DIS-interested in being a national coach of a Test playing country... When previous administration of Saber/Loby was able to get coaches like Gordon Grinidge, Eddie Barlow, Dav Watmore... and we cannot even entice coach like Barnes, Law, who ( with all due respect) are not even national coach of their respective teams? I am not sure whether IPL is to blame or our moron negotiators..
Banglaguy
June 16, 2011, 10:36 AM
It does not matter where you have coached before, it is about how clear you can plan, organize and fundamentally teach. You can say that Ian Pont is no good because he used to coach the Netherlands.. Which is clearly wrong. So be it high profile, or low profile coach, they have to be good at it. End of.
M.H.Rubel
June 16, 2011, 03:42 PM
4 Aussi in a row will not be a good idea at all.As none of the previous 3 Aussies were able to fulfill the need of BCB
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Avik
June 16, 2011, 06:21 PM
Mick Newell with his experience should have been the logical pick.
rinathq
June 16, 2011, 06:43 PM
Mick Newell with his experience should have been the logical pick.
since when did BCB start thinking logical?
Night_wolf
June 16, 2011, 11:01 PM
i want newell
Jadukor
June 16, 2011, 11:07 PM
i want newell
for now i am even happy with an announcement....
deshimon
June 17, 2011, 04:18 AM
We need a coach now even a interim coach because Zim series is knocking at the door. It won't be good taking long time for selecting a coach. If they think they need more time. Now BCB can hire a coach only for Zimbabwe tour.
Banglaguy
June 17, 2011, 05:04 AM
Grant Ludner is the best to have as a interim coach. . . Just look at the job he's doing now.
MarufH
June 17, 2011, 08:59 AM
I say try Bulbul if possible until we get a full time coach.
roman
June 17, 2011, 09:20 AM
I sometimes just dont get BCB. Few months ago Lotus said that we are definitely having Lance as our bowling coach, and then came Mr. Pont. Few days ago BCB made a commotion about not hiring an Australian as HC and now it looks like BCB is all over Law. Then there was that date turmoil. Why cant they just stop all the pechal and just show us the result. Ei Loitta natok sara kisu bujhe na....
Banglaguy
June 17, 2011, 09:21 AM
It's the BCB. You can't believe anything until it was done. It IS done.
lamisa
June 17, 2011, 10:29 AM
^^^ u still can't believe it sometimes!
Banglaguy
June 17, 2011, 10:48 AM
Lol, after they got Ian (in England, he is quite highly respected by the people I know), I thought it was a joke by my friend when he said we got him :D
darkFalgun
June 17, 2011, 12:55 PM
I wish Law would somehow get a permanent post as SLHC following the England tour so BCB can go for their 'alleged' 2nd choice although i find it hard to believe that SL would offer him anything greater than an interim role. If media reports about Law being BCB's clear favorite is actually true, can we from bc, in any capacity express our overwhelming support for Mick with valid reasons to the hiring committee? We might be put a deaf ear to but is there any opportunity to at least make an effort?
BTW, just because Mick is the favorite over Law in this case, I simply do not get the attacks being thrown to OZ coaches in general (including Loiita's statement of not hiring another Oz coach). Havent the Lankans had 3 consecutive OZs in Whatmore, Moody & Bayliss? Have their cricket moved towards the lower end of the spectrum? Which direction did we travel to under Dev and Siddons compared to the situation of the post 2003 WC? Dunno why some people believe a coach with the nationality of anything but Australian be it English, South African etc will prove to be a talisman for our NT. Also, these stereotypes that all Australian coaches have similar ideas and a coach of different nationality is a must for a fresh start confuses me.
deshimon
June 17, 2011, 01:39 PM
Lol, after they got Ian (in England, he is quite highly respected by the people I know), I thought it was a joke by my friend when he said we got him :D
It is only one joke but BCB makes lot of jokes.
Banglaguy
June 17, 2011, 01:49 PM
It is only one joke but BCB makes lot of jokes.
They are a bunch of jokes.
Dhakablues
June 19, 2011, 01:12 PM
"ATNreports that the coach selection is confirmed. And ex-captain Mashrafee expects friendly relationship with the new coach..." And the morons didnt report who the heck is that coach!!!!
Banglaguy
June 19, 2011, 03:06 PM
"ATNreports that the coach selection is confirmed. And ex-captain Mashrafee expects friendly relationship with the new coach..." And the morons didnt report who the heck is that coach!!!!
ATN is full of ****.
I watch NTV news to get real sources.
lamisa
June 20, 2011, 10:28 AM
lol at atn!
Crickbang
June 20, 2011, 12:18 PM
Interim coach gives SLC interim committee an ultimatum
By Staff Writers
Stuart Law is understandably worried about his future with Sri Lanka, amidst reports that he has received offers from elsewhere.
June 19, 2011 (Island Cricket): Stuart Law has received an offer from Bangladesh, and wants Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) to make a speedy decision concerning his future employment with the Sri Lankan cricket team, a report on Britain's The Daily Mirror newspaper said today.
Law was Sri Lanka's assistant coach, before being appointed as an 'interim coach' for Sri Lanka's ongoing tour of England, after the end of Trevor Bayliss' contract as head coach post World Cup.
The 42-year-old, the report says, is unhappy with the uncertainty surrounding his future with Sri Lanka, as SLC are planning on delaying the appointment of a full-time head coach until Australia's tour of the island later this year, despite stating that they would make a decision sooner.
"But they have been given the hurry-up as Law is being pursued by at least one other potential employer in addition to the Bangladeshis," The Mirror reported.
Law told reporters last week that he was unsure if SLC would name a permanent coach by the end of the tour of England.
"They have said that after the UK tour they will make a decision, but I’m wondering if that is the case," he said.
"If I am part of their plans, then really I would like to know now because if they don’t want me, then I’ve got some other opportunities that I could seek.
“I don’t know where I stand at the moment, and surely if they are going to make me head coach, or not, they should know very soon. I think I deserve the respect of being told where I stand and, if they have someone else in mind, okay but tell me.
“It’s been a wonderful opportunity and a great experience to work with some of the best players on the planet. I’ve enjoyed it immensely and naturally I’d jump at the chance of being appointed on a full-time basis.”
SLC has also sought a government bailout, according to treasurer Sujeewa Rajapakse who spoke to the BBC earlier this month, and the financial crisis at the richest sporting body on the island could well be delaying the appointment of a full-time coach.
Adding to the confusion, are recent news reports that SLC have also shown interest in South African Ray Jennings.
Former Sri Lankan coach Tom Moody was short-listed for the position, but in April Moody pulled out - he was no longer interested.
http://www.islandcricket.lk/news/srilankacricket/116290619/interim-coach-gives-slc-interim-committee-an-ultimatum
If he has other options even after receiving an offer from the BCB, then who becomes the BD coach now? This drama never will end. Will it?
Crickbang
June 20, 2011, 03:22 PM
Vincent Barnes is renegotiating with the BCB after turning down the HC job more than two weeks ago. "Coach could be finalized within this week -CEO." Boy I hope so. I can't take this messy saga anymore.
জাতীয় দলের কোচ নিয়োগ আলোচনা চূড়ান্ত পর্যায়ে
মঙ্গলবার, ২১ জুন ২০১১
স্পোর্টস রিপোর্টার: বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের প্রধান নির্বাহী মঞ্জুর আহমেদ আবারও বললেন, ‘জাতীয় দলের কোচ নিয়োগের বিষয়ে আমরা অনেক দূর এগিয়ে গেছি। ভাল অবস্থানে রয়েছি আমরা। এখন শুধু সুবিধামতো একটি দিনের অপেক্ষায় আছি। আমাদের আলাপ-আলোচনা চলছে। যাকে আমরা নির্বাচন করেছি তার সঙ্গে সুবিধামতো একটি দিনে আলোচনায় বসতে হবে। আশা করছি, এ সপ্তাহেই জানাতে পারবো বাংলাদেশের কোচ কে হচ্ছেন’। জাতীয় দলের কোচ নিয়োগের বিষয়টি অনেক দিন ধরে হবে, হচ্ছে করে পিছিয়ে যাচ্ছে। বিসিবি’র শর্টলিস্টে থাকা দুই কোচের মধ্য থেকেই একজনকে বেছে নিচ্ছে বিসিবি। এক্ষেত্রে অস্ট্রেলিয়ার স্টুয়ার্ট ল ও দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার ভিনসেন্ট বার্নেস আছেন শীর্ষে। সিইও বলছেন, আমরা এখন একজনের সঙ্গেই কথা বলছি’। তিনি কোচের নাম জানাতে অপরাগতা প্রকাশ করলেন। বিশেষ সূত্রের মতে, ভিনসেন্ট বার্নেসকেই বেছে নিচ্ছে বিসিবি। দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকা ক্রিকেট দলের এই সহকারী বাংলাদেশ দলের কোচ হচ্ছেন বলে মিডিয়াকে জানিয়েছিলেন বোর্ড প্রেসিডেন্ট আহম মোস্তফা কামাল। তার সেই ঘোষণা পত্রপত্রিকায় প্রকাশ পেলে অনীহা প্রকাশ করেছিলেন বার্নেস। এখন বিসিবি’র সঙ্গে পুনরায় যোগাযোগ করেছেন বলে জানা যায়।
জেমি সিডন্সের সঙ্গে বিসিবি’র চুক্তি শেষ হয়েছে গত এপ্রিলে অস্ট্রেলিয়া সিরিজ শেষ হওয়ার পরপরই। বিসিবি নতুন করে আর সিডন্সের সঙ্গে চুক্তি নবায়ন করেনি। এদিকে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট দল জুলাইয়ের শেষ নাগাদ জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরে রওনা হবে। এখন পর্যন্ত কোচ পাননি কন্ডিশনিং ক্যাম্পে থাকা ক্রিকেটাররা। কোচ নিয়োগের বিষয়টি দেখছে বিসিবির ক্রিকেট অপারেশন কমিটি, গেম ডেভেলপমেন্ট কমিটি ও প্রধান নির্বাহী। তবে টেলি ও ইন্টারনেটে যোগাযোগ রক্ষা করছেন মঞ্জুর আহমেদ। তিনি মানবজমিনকে বলেন, কোচ কে হবেন তা প্রায় চূড়ান্ত। তবে আমরা এখনই নাম জানাতে পারছি না। কারণ কোচের কিছু বাধ্যবাধকতা রয়েছে। তিনি বলেন, আমরা আগেভাগে জানিয়ে দেই এটা তিনি চাচ্ছেন না। সুতরাং আমাদের মুখ বন্ধ রাখতে হচ্ছে’। আগত কোচের বেতন-ভাতা কি হবে তা চূড়ান্ত হয়ে গেছে। নতুন কোচের বেতন জেমি সিডন্সের চেয়ে বেশি হওয়ার সম্ভাবনা নেই। আর হলেও খুব বেশি হবে না বলে জানান সিইও। চূড়ান্ত ভাবে কোচের সঙ্গে কত বছরের চুক্তি হবে এ নিয়ে আলোচনা হবে বলে জানা গেছে। প্রধান কোচ যদি ব্যাটিংনির্ভর হলে তার মতামত নিয়ে পরে বোলিং ও ফিল্ডিং কোচ নিয়োগ দেবে বিসিবি।
http://mzamin.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12102:2011-06-20-15-11-45&catid=45:2010-08-29-13-38-09&Itemid=80
arifur81
June 20, 2011, 04:07 PM
Will BCB ever listen to us (true well-wisher of the BD Cricket)? Law and Barnes both blady sh** choice, they should appoint Coach Ian and our last A team coach forgot the name of his....... Blady M S**t kamal listen to us for BD cricket improvement sake
maharaj
June 21, 2011, 07:46 AM
Barnes is out of contests :) .
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/cricket/2011/06/21/barnes-appointed-high-performance-coach
Banglaguy
June 21, 2011, 07:59 AM
Barnes is out of contests :) .
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/cricket/2011/06/21/barnes-appointed-high-performance-coach
He has been for a very long time... like 10 or so days.
Razi
June 21, 2011, 09:56 AM
[বাংলা]শেষ পর্যন্ত স্টুয়ার্ট ল'ই কোচ হচ্ছেন!
কালের কণ্ঠ, ২১ জুন ২০১১ (http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Bank&pub_no=558&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=1)
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : চুন খেয়ে মুখ পুড়েছে একাধিকবার। একবার ল্যান্স ক্লুজনারকে নিশ্চিত ঘোষণার পর জাতীয় দলের কোচ পদে জেমি সিডন্সের উত্তরসূরি হিসেবে আরেক দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকান ভিনসেন্ট বার্নসকে প্রায় নিশ্চিত বলেই ঘোষণা করা হয়েছিল বিসিবির সর্বোচ্চ মহল থেকে। এরপর থেকে নতুন কোচসংক্রান্ত প্রশ্নে নিশ্চিত করা দূরে থাক, সম্ভাব্য প্রার্থীদের নাম উচ্চারণেও সতর্ক বিসিবির কর্মকর্তারা। বড়জোর, 'এ মাসের মধ্যেই নতুন কোচের নাম ঘোষণা হবে' জানিয়ে থেমে পড়ছেন তাঁরা। এ মাস তো বটেই, বিশ্বস্ত সূত্রে জানা গেছে দু-একদিনের মধ্যেই আগামী দুই বছরের জন্য জাতীয় দলের কোচের নাম আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে জানানো হবে। সে নামটি স্টুয়ার্ট ল হওয়াই একরকম নিশ্চিত।
জেমি সিডন্স চলে যাওয়ার পর নতুন কোচের সন্ধানে নামা বিসিবির সংক্ষিপ্ত তালিকায় সবচেয়ে ওপরেই ছিল স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র নাম। তবে মাঝখানে ইংল্যান্ড লায়ন্সের মিক নিওয়েল এবং বোর্ড সভাপতির মুখ থেকে ভিনসেন্ট বার্নসের নাম বেরিয়ে পড়ায় কিছুদিন আলোচনায় পিছিয়ে পড়েছিলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তা ছাড়া বর্তমানে শ্রীলঙ্কা দলের ভারপ্রাপ্ত কোচের পদে আছেন সাবেক এ অস্ট্রেলীয় ক্রিকেটার। আছেন শ্রীলঙ্কার কোচ পদের প্রার্থী তালিকাতেও। তার ওপর বিসিবির সঙ্গে প্রাথমিক আলোচনায় আইপিএল কিংবা বিগ ব্যাশের মতো অর্থকরী টোয়েন্টি টোয়েন্টি টুর্নামেন্টের সময় প্রয়োজনে অবৈতনিক ছুটিও চেয়েছিলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। কিন্তু জাতীয় দলের কোচকে 'আইপিএল ছুটি' দেওয়ার ব্যাপারে আপত্তির কথা প্রকাশ্যেই জানিয়েছিলেন বিসিবি সভাপতি মোস্তফা কামাল। তবে কি খণ্ডকালীন ছুটি নিয়ে ভিন্ন লিগে কাজ করার পরিকল্পনা থেকে সরে দাঁড়িয়েছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল? সে রকম নিশ্চয়তা অবশ্য কোনো মহল থেকেই মিলছে না। উল্টো আইপিএল কিংবা অর্থকরী অন্য কোনো টুর্নামেন্টে কোচিংয়ের লোভে যেন বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের অ্যাসাইনমেন্ট ফেলে চলে না যেতে পারেন, সে রকম একটি ধারা আইন উপদেষ্টার কাছে নাকি চেয়েছে বিসিবি।
সাবেক কোচ জেমি সিডন্স প্রতি মাসে বেতন পেতেন ১৬ হাজার ডলার করে। নতুন কোচ স্টুয়ার্ট ল'কে মাসিক ২০ হাজার ডলারে রাজি করানো গেছে বলেই খবর। সঙ্গে আবাসন, পরিবহন, চিকিৎসা এবং বোনাস মিলিয়ে বিশ্বের ধনী কোচদের একজন হতে যাচ্ছেন ল, যে আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা ইংল্যান্ড-শ্রীলঙ্কার মধ্যকার ওল্ড ট্র্যাফোর্ড টেস্ট শেষ হওয়ার পরপরই হওয়ার কথা। সে মতে আজ স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র কাছে ই-মেইল মারফত চূড়ান্ত চুক্তিপত্র পাঠাচ্ছে বিসিবি। তাতে সম্মতি দিলেই আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা দেবে বিসিবি।[/বাংলা]
roman
June 21, 2011, 10:17 AM
Ei bar jodi Law miah Cuuch na hoy tahole Kaler Kantha ta ami shotti shotti borjon korbo...
lamisa
June 21, 2011, 10:38 AM
^^^ ekhono koren nai???
roman
June 21, 2011, 10:47 AM
Na ami ekhono tader ke Benefit of doubt benefit dissi since its a new newspaper...
Habib
June 21, 2011, 10:49 AM
^Hm. Tobe joto taratari borjon korben totoi mongol.
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roman
June 21, 2011, 10:53 AM
^true...
Good to see you back..Why do you disappear every now and then? :)
rinathq
June 21, 2011, 01:31 PM
does it really say anything new than what we have been reading for last 2 week? heck its even behind because the email that was supposed to be sent "today" according to kaler kontho was supposed to be send last week!
cricadda
June 21, 2011, 02:22 PM
[বাংলা]শেষ পর্যন্ত স্টুয়ার্ট ল'ই কোচ হচ্ছেন!
কালের কণ্ঠ, ২১ জুন ২০১১ (http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Bank&pub_no=558&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=1)
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : চুন খেয়ে মুখ পুড়েছে একাধিকবার। একবার ল্যান্স ক্লুজনারকে নিশ্চিত ঘোষণার পর জাতীয় দলের কোচ পদে জেমি সিডন্সের উত্তরসূরি হিসেবে আরেক দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকান ভিনসেন্ট বার্নসকে প্রায় নিশ্চিত বলেই ঘোষণা করা হয়েছিল বিসিবির সর্বোচ্চ মহল থেকে। এরপর থেকে নতুন কোচসংক্রান্ত প্রশ্নে নিশ্চিত করা দূরে থাক, সম্ভাব্য প্রার্থীদের নাম উচ্চারণেও সতর্ক বিসিবির কর্মকর্তারা। বড়জোর, 'এ মাসের মধ্যেই নতুন কোচের নাম ঘোষণা হবে' জানিয়ে থেমে পড়ছেন তাঁরা। এ মাস তো বটেই, বিশ্বস্ত সূত্রে জানা গেছে দু-একদিনের মধ্যেই আগামী দুই বছরের জন্য জাতীয় দলের কোচের নাম আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে জানানো হবে। সে নামটি স্টুয়ার্ট ল হওয়াই একরকম নিশ্চিত।
জেমি সিডন্স চলে যাওয়ার পর নতুন কোচের সন্ধানে নামা বিসিবির সংক্ষিপ্ত তালিকায় সবচেয়ে ওপরেই ছিল স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র নাম। তবে মাঝখানে ইংল্যান্ড লায়ন্সের মিক নিওয়েল এবং বোর্ড সভাপতির মুখ থেকে ভিনসেন্ট বার্নসের নাম বেরিয়ে পড়ায় কিছুদিন আলোচনায় পিছিয়ে পড়েছিলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তা ছাড়া বর্তমানে শ্রীলঙ্কা দলের ভারপ্রাপ্ত কোচের পদে আছেন সাবেক এ অস্ট্রেলীয় ক্রিকেটার। আছেন শ্রীলঙ্কার কোচ পদের প্রার্থী তালিকাতেও। তার ওপর বিসিবির সঙ্গে প্রাথমিক আলোচনায় আইপিএল কিংবা বিগ ব্যাশের মতো অর্থকরী টোয়েন্টি টোয়েন্টি টুর্নামেন্টের সময় প্রয়োজনে অবৈতনিক ছুটিও চেয়েছিলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। কিন্তু জাতীয় দলের কোচকে 'আইপিএল ছুটি' দেওয়ার ব্যাপারে আপত্তির কথা প্রকাশ্যেই জানিয়েছিলেন বিসিবি সভাপতি মোস্তফা কামাল। তবে কি খণ্ডকালীন ছুটি নিয়ে ভিন্ন লিগে কাজ করার পরিকল্পনা থেকে সরে দাঁড়িয়েছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল? সে রকম নিশ্চয়তা অবশ্য কোনো মহল থেকেই মিলছে না। উল্টো আইপিএল কিংবা অর্থকরী অন্য কোনো টুর্নামেন্টে কোচিংয়ের লোভে যেন বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের অ্যাসাইনমেন্ট ফেলে চলে না যেতে পারেন, সে রকম একটি ধারা আইন উপদেষ্টার কাছে নাকি চেয়েছে বিসিবি।
সাবেক কোচ জেমি সিডন্স প্রতি মাসে বেতন পেতেন ১৬ হাজার ডলার করে। নতুন কোচ স্টুয়ার্ট ল'কে মাসিক ২০ হাজার ডলারে রাজি করানো গেছে বলেই খবর। সঙ্গে আবাসন, পরিবহন, চিকিৎসা এবং বোনাস মিলিয়ে বিশ্বের ধনী কোচদের একজন হতে যাচ্ছেন ল, যে আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা ইংল্যান্ড-শ্রীলঙ্কার মধ্যকার ওল্ড ট্র্যাফোর্ড টেস্ট শেষ হওয়ার পরপরই হওয়ার কথা। সে মতে আজ স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র কাছে ই-মেইল মারফত চূড়ান্ত চুক্তিপত্র পাঠাচ্ছে বিসিবি। তাতে সম্মতি দিলেই আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা দেবে বিসিবি।[/বাংলা]
Still not sure about this articale...could be different.
Razi
June 21, 2011, 02:44 PM
[বাংলা]আজই সিদ্ধান্ত জানাবেন ল
কালের কণ্ঠ, ২২ জুন ২০১১ (http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Tourist&pub_no=559&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=3)
কালের কণ্ঠের পক্ষ থেকে গতকাল যোগাযোগ করা হলে 'একটি দিন' অপেক্ষা করার পরামর্শ দিয়েছেন শ্রীলঙ্কার অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন এ কোচ
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : বিসিবির চূড়ান্ত চুক্তিপত্র পেয়ে গেছেন। তবে আগামী দুই বছরের জন্য বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের কোচ হবেন_এ সিদ্ধান্ত গতকাল পর্যন্ত নেননি অস্ট্রেলিয়ার সাবেক ক্রিকেটার স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তবে কালের কণ্ঠের পক্ষ থেকে গতকাল যোগাযোগ করা হলে 'একটি দিন' অপেক্ষা করার পরামর্শ দিয়েছেন শ্রীলঙ্কার অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন এ কোচ।
ইংল্যান্ড-শ্রীলঙ্কা ওল্ড ট্র্যাফোর্ড টেস্ট শেষ হলেই স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র কাছ থেকে চূড়ান্ত সম্মতি পাওয়ার ব্যাপারে বিসিবির পক্ষ থেকে আশাবাদ ব্যক্ত করা হয়েছিল। সে মতে গতকাল চূড়ান্ত চুক্তিপত্র ই-মেইল করে তাঁকে পাঠানোও হয়েছে। তবে এর উত্তর গত রাত পর্যন্ত দেননি স্টুয়ার্ট ল। রাতে ইংল্যান্ডে অবস্থানরত স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র সঙ্গে মোবাইল ফোনে যোগাযোগ করা হলে তিনি জানান, 'এ মুহূর্তে আমার বলার কিছু নেই। আরেকটা দিন সময় দিন।' এ অপেক্ষা শ্রীলঙ্কান ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের জন্য কিনা, সে প্রশ্ন এড়িয়ে যান ল। ব্রিটিশ দৈনিক 'দ্য মিরর'-এর খবর, স্থায়ী কোচ পদে নিয়োগের বিষয়টি পরিষ্কার করে জানাতে শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেটকে 'আলটিমেটাম' দিয়েছিলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তাতে এটা একরকম নিশ্চিত যে শ্রীলঙ্কা 'না' করে দিলেই কেবল বিসিবির প্রস্তাব গ্রহণ করবেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। এ ব্যাপারে অবশ্য গতকাল কোনোরকম মন্তব্য করতেই রাজি হননি বিসিবির প্রধান নির্বাহী মঞ্জুর আহমেদ।
এদিকে শ্রীলঙ্কার পত্র-পত্রিকার খবর অনুযায়ী, স্থায়ী কোচ নিয়োগের ব্যাপারে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র সময়সীমা মেনে চলা দেশটির ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের জন্য কঠিনই। কারণ কোচ নিয়োগের ক্ষেত্রে ক্রীড়া মন্ত্রণালয় থেকে আর্থিক অনুমোদনের ব্যাপার আছে। তার ওপর আর্থিক অনিয়মের কারণে প্রশ্নবিদ্ধ সরকার মনোনীত শ্রীলঙ্কার অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন ক্রিকেট বোর্ড। যদিও দ্য মিররের দাবি, চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্তের ব্যাপারে 'সঠিক ব্যক্তি'র সঙ্গে আলাপ হয়েছে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র। তবে সে আলাপ যে চূড়ান্ত পরিণতি নিশ্চিত করেনি গতকাল পর্যন্ত, তার প্রমাণ কালের কণ্ঠ স্পোর্টসের কাছে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র বার্তা, 'আরেকটি দিন সময় দিন'। সে মতে স্টুয়ার্ট ল-ই বাংলাদেশের নতুন কোচ হচ্ছেন কি হচ্ছেন না, সেটি নিশ্চিত হয়ে যাওয়ার কথা আজই।[/বাংলা]
MarufH
June 21, 2011, 03:16 PM
:mad:Are you freaken kidding... 20K for a lamo coach... man.. I am really pissed.:facepalm::head:
Banglaguy
June 21, 2011, 03:19 PM
Wait, this e-mail was supposed to be today right?
And does this mean Law is staying with SL?
MarufH
June 21, 2011, 03:26 PM
I donno man... but this whole Law making us second option.. and being a third class coach is pissing me offf. WTF
MarufH
June 21, 2011, 03:38 PM
I swear if this guy gets hired... arrgghh.. I have a bad feeling about this.
roman
June 21, 2011, 03:53 PM
I swear if this guy gets hired... arrgghh.. I have a bad feeling about this.
Akabir77 is BCB CEO's cousin. He said that Law might not be our coach. Wait till they announce the coach's name. Dont lose sleep over this now...
Banglaguy
June 21, 2011, 03:55 PM
When is the next final deadline set to be missed??
roman
June 21, 2011, 03:57 PM
^6/26
Banglaguy
June 21, 2011, 04:16 PM
^6/26
of 2013 I suppose.
Crickbang
June 21, 2011, 08:56 PM
Wait, this e-mail was supposed to be today right?
And does this mean Law is staying with SL?
Today means Wednesday according to BD time. Not Tuesday. We will probably know the final decision within 24 hrs or less. I would say Wednesday evening on BD time standards.
ahms
June 21, 2011, 09:20 PM
Why are we wasting so much time on just one coach? We need bowling and fielding coach. Whats the news with other coaches? I hope BCB taking into consideration of all angles, not just head coach alone.
Rabz
June 22, 2011, 01:09 AM
^^ All those other support staff will be finalised AFTER you appoint the Head Coach.
Usually, HC has a say on those he wants/prefers in his support team.
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 03:07 AM
Today means Wednesday according to BD time. Not Tuesday. We will probably know the final decision within 24 hrs or less. I would say Wednesday evening on BD time standards.
Oh yeah, I wasn't accounting for the time difference :)
arifur81
June 22, 2011, 03:40 AM
If we are going to get the answer which we all suspect then its better they never announce the decision...... BCB Sucks
MarufH
June 22, 2011, 08:46 AM
Akabir77 is BCB CEO's cousin. He said that Law might not be our coach. Wait till they announce the coach's name. Dont lose sleep over this now...
Thanks bhai.. some words of hope...
MarufH
June 22, 2011, 08:47 AM
If we are going to get the answer which we all suspect then its better they never announce the decision...... BCB Sucks
Agreed.. I have been backing BCB for a while especially after they pulled off Ian and Julien... but now... :(
Ammar
June 22, 2011, 09:22 AM
Its wednesday today... and evening in bangladesh, i hope! but yet know news?
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 10:19 AM
[বাংলা]মৌখিকভাবে জাতীয় দলের কোচ হয়ে আছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। কার্যত তা হয়নি। অর্থ হলো ল’র কাছ থেকে শেষ সংকেত না পাওয়া পর্যন্ত তীর্থের কাকের মতো তাকিয়ে থাকতে হচ্ছে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) কর্মকর্তাদেরকে। প্রধান নির্বাহী (সিইও) মঞ্জুর আহমেদের কপালে চিন্তার ভাঁজের দৈর্ঘ্য বেড়ে যাচ্ছে। বিসিবি সভাপতি আ হ ম মোস্তফা কামালেরও অস্থির অস্থির ঠেকছে। যদি না বলে দেন ল! সেই ভয়েই বোর্ড সভাপতি ও সিইও’র গা ছমছম করছে।
যদিও বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট দলের সঙ্গে কাজ করতে শ্রীলঙ্কান অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন কোচ ল’র আগ্রহ অনেক। বিসিবির সঙ্গে চূড়ান্ত আলোচনাও হয়ে আছে। প্রতিশ্রুতি দিয়েছেন বাংলাদেশের সঙ্গে কাজ করবেন। তারপরেও ভয় ভয় করছে ক্রিকেট কর্মকর্তাদের। ভয়ের আসল কারণটা হলো আন্তর্জাতিক সংবাদমাধ্যমে খবর বেরিয়েছে শ্রীলঙ্কা ল‘কে সুযোগ সুবিধা নিশ্চিত করলে বাংলাদেশকে না বলে দেবেন। সেক্ষেত্রে জাতীয় দলের কোচের জন্য নতুন করে সিদ্ধান্ত নিতে হবে বিসিবিকে। সিইও তো বলেই দিয়েছেন জরুরী সভা ডেকে কোচ খোঁজার চেষ্টা করতে হবে। উনার ভাষায় দ্বিতীয় প্রজেক্ট হাতে নিতে হবে।
অবশ্য কেউ কেউ নিশ্চিত হয়েই আছেন ল আসবেন। পেশাদার কোচরা হ্যাঁ বললে পিছু হটেন না। মিডিয়া কমিটির চেয়ারম্যান জালাল ইউনুস তো বলেই দিলেন,“ল আমাদেরকে নিশ্চিত করেছেন জাতীয় দলের সঙ্গে কাজ করবেন। চুক্তির শর্তের কপিও উনার কাছে পাঠিয়ে দেওয়া হয়েছে। এখন তো আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা দেওয়ার কথা।”
কোচ নিয়োগে জালাল ইউনুসও তো জড়িত। ব্যক্তিগত সফরে ইংল্যান্ডে গিয়ে বিসিবির কোচ খোঁজার কাজ কিছুটা এগিয়ে রেখে এসেছেন তিনিই তো। সে জন্যই তো ওই অস্ট্রেলিয়ানের কাছ থেকে সবুজ সঙ্কেত না পাওয়ায় বিব্রত জালাল ইউনুস।
আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা না আসার অন্যতম কারণ শ্রীলঙ্কার খেলা চলছে। এছাড়া যে বোর্ডের সঙ্গে কাজ করছেন তাদের কাছ থেকেও তো একটা ছাড়পত্র লাগে। সে সবের জন্য একটু আধটু দেরি হচ্ছে। তবে নির্ভরযোগ্য একজন কর্মকর্তা বুধবার বাংলানিউজকে জানিয়েছেন,“বৃহস্প িবার কোচের আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা আসবে। স্টুয়ার্ট ল হচ্ছেন বাংলাদেশ কোচ।”
অবশ্য বিসিবি সিইও জানিয়েছেন, বিদেশি কোচের ব্যাপারে এখনই ঘোষণা আসছে না। ল দুই দিন সময় চেয়েছেন।"[/বাংলা]
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nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 10:20 AM
[বাংলা]শেষপর্যন্ত সারোয়ার ইমরানকেই জাতীয় দলের আপতকালীন কোচের দায়িত্ব দেওয়া হচ্ছে। বিদেশি কোচ না থাকায় জুলাই থেকে জাতীয় দলের অনুশীলন ক্যাম্প পরিচালনা করবেন তিনি। তারমানে এই নয় যে স্টুয়ার্ট ল বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি)’কে না বলে দিয়েছেন। অপেক্ষার পালাটা একটু দীর্ঘ হচ্ছে আর কী।
বিসিবির টেশনিক্যাল ও মূল্যায়ন কমিটির সভায় বুধবার সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়া হয়ে যতদিন বিদেশি কোচ আসছে না ততোদিন সারোয়ার ইমরান কোচের দায়িত্ব পালন করে যাবেন। চট্টগ্রাম থেকে জাতীয় দল কন্ডিশনিং ক্যাম্প শেষ করে ফিরলেই সারোয়ার ইমরানের হাতে জাতীয় দলের দায়িত্ব তুলে দেওয়া হবে। এছাড়া বিদেশি কোচ নিয়োগের বিষয়টি তরান্বিত করার জন্য প্রধান নির্বাহীকে বলা হয়েছে টেকনিক্যাল কমিটির সভায়।
টেকনিক্যাল ও মূল্যায়ন কমিটির অন্যতম সদস্য গাজী আশরাফ হোসেন লিপু বাংলানিউজকে বলেন,“কোচের বিষয়টি ঝুলে আছে। আর কালক্ষেপণ না করাই ভালো হবে।”
স্টুয়ার্ট ল’কে না পাওয়া গেলে শেষপর্যন্ত কি হবে এমন প্রশ্নের জবাবে লিপু বলেন,“নিশ্চয়ই বিকল্প পছন্দ আছে। অনেক কোচই তো আগ্রহ দেখিয়েছেন। তাদের মধ্য থেকে হয়তো একজনকে বেছে নেওয়া হবে।”
এদিকে জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরের আগে জাতীয় দলের সঙ্গে ‘এ’ দলের একটি চারদিনের ম্যাচ, কয়েকটি একদিনের ম্যাচ আয়োজনের বিষয়ে সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়া হয়েছে। লিপু জানিয়েছেন দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকায় একটি চারদিনের ম্যাচ খেলার বিষয়টি বোর্ডের অনুমোদনের জন্য সুপাশি করেছে টেকনিক্যাল কমিটি।
অনুর্ধ্ব-১৯ বিশ্বকাপ পিছিয়ে যাওয়ায় বাংলাদেশ যুব দলের ব্যাপারে কোন সিদ্ধান্ত হয়নি বলে জানান লিপু। এছাড়া বিসিবি সহসভাপতি আহমেদ সাজ্জাদুল আলম ববি বলেছেন,“ক্যালেন্ড র এবং খেলোয়াড়দের পোশাকের বিষয়ে আলোচনা করা হয়েছে সভায়।[/বাংলা]
SOURCE (http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=28172a8c15bfbc0714c5a2cd0d1ed 2a4&nttl=2011062209090545899&toppos=3)
Naimul_Hd
June 22, 2011, 10:26 AM
[বাংলা]নগ্ন শূন্য ভাই ও দেখি একই খবর এই থ্রেড এ দিছেন ![/বাংলা] :)
akabir77
June 22, 2011, 10:28 AM
Thanks bhai.. some words of hope...
I have talked with him while back. but now i am also confused after reading all this report. beside I am sure politics played a big role and trump him. We all know how loitta loves big names... anyway it might not be a bad thing. pro coach once they join a team they will do 100% for that team and law is like sid with batting background. I don't know why are we so tensed on this issue? there was a time (not long ago) no cricket team had any thing called coach... lol
MarufH
June 22, 2011, 10:30 AM
*sigh*
MarufH
June 22, 2011, 10:38 AM
I have talked with him while back. but now i am also confused after reading all this report. beside I am sure politics played a big role and trump him. We all know how loitta loves big names... anyway it might not be a bad thing. pro coach once they join a team they will do 100% for that team and law is like sid with batting background. I don't know why are we so tensed on this issue? there was a time (not long ago) no cricket team had any thing called coach... lol
We need a good coach cause:
- Our players lack basics when they come into the team
- Our team management lack basic planning
- Our players only act when something is forced onto them... they don't have much work ethics
Why no Law:
- He has very little coaching experience
- He was a mediocre international player much like chacha
- We don't need a big name... we need someone solid long time coaching experience. For ex. Pont for bowling/Newell for batting.
- He is asking for time off when Big Bash or IPL offer comes.. as Ian Pont indicated, you coach when there are no games... not during games. Also, if he is already eyeing money, what kind of dedication can you expect from him?
- He is asking for 20K per month while Siddons was 14K.
- Frankly... I would like a change from Australian pattern....
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 10:46 AM
[বাংলা]নগ্ন শূন্য ভাই ও দেখি একই খবর এই থ্রেড এ দিছেন ![/বাংলা] :)
:-S Bujhi nai bhai, ami bujhee kom bhai er cheye o bujhee kom :-( Mone holo ei thread ai update ta hole bhalo hoy. Jodi bhul kore thaki MODs please help, move my posts to appropriate thread.
P.S Thank you Naimul bhai
reyme
June 22, 2011, 11:47 AM
We need a good coach cause:
Why no Law:
as Ian Pont indicated, you coach when there are no games... not during games. ..
My point exactly. You dont coach while the game is on!
Thats why I also like Ian and Newell. Unfortunately Siddons also believed coaching was a part time job. When the players were sitting idle, he went for vacation!!
Ammar
June 22, 2011, 12:14 PM
[বাংলা]শেষপর্যন্ত সারোয়ার ইমরানকেই জাতীয় দলের আপতকালীন কোচের দায়িত্ব দেওয়া হচ্ছে। বিদেশি কোচ না থাকায় জুলাই থেকে জাতীয় দলের অনুশীলন ক্যাম্প পরিচালনা করবেন তিনি। তারমানে এই নয় যে স্টুয়ার্ট ল বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি)’কে না বলে দিয়েছেন। অপেক্ষার পালাটা একটু দীর্ঘ হচ্ছে আর কী।
বিসিবির টেশনিক্যাল ও মূল্যায়ন কমিটির সভায় বুধবার সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়া হয়ে যতদিন বিদেশি কোচ আসছে না ততোদিন সারোয়ার ইমরান কোচের দায়িত্ব পালন করে যাবেন। চট্টগ্রাম থেকে জাতীয় দল কন্ডিশনিং ক্যাম্প শেষ করে ফিরলেই সারোয়ার ইমরানের হাতে জাতীয় দলের দায়িত্ব তুলে দেওয়া হবে। এছাড়া বিদেশি কোচ নিয়োগের বিষয়টি তরান্বিত করার জন্য প্রধান নির্বাহীকে বলা হয়েছে টেকনিক্যাল কমিটির সভায়।
টেকনিক্যাল ও মূল্যায়ন কমিটির অন্যতম সদস্য গাজী আশরাফ হোসেন লিপু বাংলানিউজকে বলেন,“কোচের বিষয়টি ঝুলে আছে। আর কালক্ষেপণ না করাই ভালো হবে।”
স্টুয়ার্ট ল’কে না পাওয়া গেলে শেষপর্যন্ত কি হবে এমন প্রশ্নের জবাবে লিপু বলেন,“নিশ্চয়ই বিকল্প পছন্দ আছে। অনেক কোচই তো আগ্রহ দেখিয়েছেন। তাদের মধ্য থেকে হয়তো একজনকে বেছে নেওয়া হবে।”
এদিকে জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরের আগে জাতীয় দলের সঙ্গে ‘এ’ দলের একটি চারদিনের ম্যাচ, কয়েকটি একদিনের ম্যাচ আয়োজনের বিষয়ে সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়া হয়েছে। লিপু জানিয়েছেন দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকায় একটি চারদিনের ম্যাচ খেলার বিষয়টি বোর্ডের অনুমোদনের জন্য সুপাশি করেছে টেকনিক্যাল কমিটি।
অনুর্ধ্ব-১৯ বিশ্বকাপ পিছিয়ে যাওয়ায় বাংলাদেশ যুব দলের ব্যাপারে কোন সিদ্ধান্ত হয়নি বলে জানান লিপু। এছাড়া বিসিবি সহসভাপতি আহমেদ সাজ্জাদুল আলম ববি বলেছেন,“ক্যালেন্ড র এবং খেলোয়াড়দের পোশাকের বিষয়ে আলোচনা করা হয়েছে সভায়।[/বাংলা]
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english translation please!
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 12:17 PM
The group is responsible for the National Emergency imaranakei sesaparyanta Sarwar. July due to a foreign coach to manage the national team camp will be in practice. This is not to say that Stuart Law taramane Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB), who has not. This is what I long for palata.
Search and Evaluation Committee meeting on Wednesday decided to tesanikyala as long as it does not have a foreign coach Sarwar Imran tatodina go for the role. From the national team's conditioning camp last in the hands of national team duty and will be imaranera phiralei Sarwar. The employment of a foreign coach to head nirbahike taranbita technical committee has been meeting.
Gazi Ashraf Hossain, a member of the Technical Evaluation Committee banlaniujake lipu said, "This is the jhule. It is better not to play. "
Stuart Law, who will not even question what sesaparyanta lipu response, said, "surely you have the option to choose. Kocai he showed a lot of interest. Maybe someone will be chosen from the middle. "
The Zimbabwe national team before the tour with 'A' team matches for a caradinera, some day, as the decision has been made. Lipu on the board for approval in South Africa in a match caradinera supasi the Technical Committee.
Small group, the Youth World Cup in Bangladesh -19 anurdhba no decision has been lipu said. Ahmed Alam sajjadula sahasabhapati also like Bobby said, "and kyalenda the players have been meeting to talk about clothing
Razi
June 22, 2011, 01:17 PM
^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's the funniest translation I've ever read, thanks for posting here Banglaguy, this is a masterpiece.
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 01:30 PM
Lol, bhai, it's from google translate :D
I can read and write Bengali, but can only speak syhleti :(
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 01:35 PM
Is Sarwar Imran the interim coach for a bit? Read it on some fb page.
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 01:51 PM
Lol, bhai, it's from google translate :D
I can read and write Bengali, but can only speak syhleti :(
Are you from Sylhet?
Is Sarwar Imran the interim coach for a bit? Read it on some fb page.
You just translated it little ago! It is.
kofeenine
June 22, 2011, 02:05 PM
I just have this feeling that our coach search has become an Ashes Series. Australia vs. England. Its a fight between Brits and Ozs. And I also have this question in mind: are we the 'bully' in the battle ground?
Razi
June 22, 2011, 02:23 PM
[বাংলা]আরেকটু সময় চান স্টুয়ার্ট ল
কালের কণ্ঠ, ২৩ জুন ২০১১ (http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Antivirus&pub_no=560&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=2)
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : মঙ্গলবার রাতে জানিয়েছিলেন, সিদ্ধান্ত চূড়ান্ত করার জন্য আরেকটি দিন সময় দরকার তাঁর। সেই মতে গতকালই নির্ধারিত দিন ছিল তিনি বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের প্রধান কোচের চাকরির প্রস্তাব গ্রহণ করবেন কি করবেন না। সেটি জানতে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র সঙ্গে চেষ্টা করেও যোগাযোগ করা যায়নি। তাঁর মোবাইল ফোন বন্ধ। তবে অন্য একটি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, অভাবিত কিছু না ঘটলে এ অস্ট্রেলীয়ই দুই বছরের মেয়াদে বাংলাদেশ দলের কোচ হতে যাচ্ছেন। এ-সংক্রান্ত আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা আজ-কালের মধ্যে হয়ে যাওয়ার সম্ভাবনা প্রবল।
বিশ্বস্ত একটি সূত্র নিশ্চিত করেছে, শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র বিদায়ের ঘণ্টা বাজতে আর দেরি নেই। বাংলাদেশ নাকি শ্রীলঙ্কা-এই দোদুল্যমানতা কাটিয়ে এখন বিসিবির প্রস্তাব গ্রহণের ব্যাপারে চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে ফেলেছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তবে আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে সেটি জানাতে পারছেন না তিনি ভিন্ন একটি কারণে। শ্রীলঙ্কার সঙ্গে ল'র চুক্তির মেয়াদ শেষ হবে নভেম্বরে। তাতে এখনই ইস্তফা দিতে গেলে শ্রীলঙ্কাকে তিন মাসের বেতন জরিমানা দিতে হবে। স্টুয়ার্ট ল নাকি চেষ্টা করছেন আলোচনার মাধ্যমে এ অঙ্ক যতটা সম্ভব কমিয়ে আনার। সে চেষ্টা সফল হলে শ্রীলঙ্কার ইংল্যান্ড সফর শেষ হলেই বাংলাদেশ দলের সঙ্গে যোগ দেবেন সাবেক এ অস্ট্রেলীয় ক্রিকেটার। কিন্তু শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেট যদি রাজি না হয়? তাহলে পথ খোলা আছে তিনটি।
১. ক্ষতিপূরণ দিয়ে বাংলাদেশে চলে আসলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল।
২. বিসিবি যদি সে ক্ষতিপূরণের দায়িত্ব নেয়।
৩. তিন মাসের নোটিশকাল শেষে সাকিবদের কোচ হলেন ল।
তৃতীয় শর্তই একমাত্র পথ হলে জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'কে পাবে না বাংলাদেশ। আগের দুটি শর্তের যেকোনো একটির ক্ষেত্রে মধ্য জুলাইয়ে ঢাকায় দেখা যাবে তাঁকে। তবে শেষমেশ যে পন্থাই শ্রীলঙ্কা থেকে বিদায়ের উপায় ধরে নিন না কেন, 'বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের নতুন কোচ স্টুয়ার্ট ল' ঘোষণাটা নাকি খুব সহসাই হয়ে যাবে।[/বাংলা]
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 02:26 PM
Are you from Sylhet?
You just translated it little ago! It is.
Yeah bhai, I am from syhlet...
And translated what?
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 02:29 PM
[বাংলা]আরেকটু সময় চান স্টুয়ার্ট ল
কালের কণ্ঠ, ২৩ জুন ২০১১ (http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Antivirus&pub_no=560&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=2)
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : মঙ্গলবার রাতে জানিয়েছিলেন, সিদ্ধান্ত চূড়ান্ত করার জন্য আরেকটি দিন সময় দরকার তাঁর। সেই মতে গতকালই নির্ধারিত দিন ছিল তিনি বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের প্রধান কোচের চাকরির প্রস্তাব গ্রহণ করবেন কি করবেন না। সেটি জানতে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র সঙ্গে চেষ্টা করেও যোগাযোগ করা যায়নি। তাঁর মোবাইল ফোন বন্ধ। তবে অন্য একটি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, অভাবিত কিছু না ঘটলে এ অস্ট্রেলীয়ই দুই বছরের মেয়াদে বাংলাদেশ দলের কোচ হতে যাচ্ছেন। এ-সংক্রান্ত আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা আজ-কালের মধ্যে হয়ে যাওয়ার সম্ভাবনা প্রবল।
বিশ্বস্ত একটি সূত্র নিশ্চিত করেছে, শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'র বিদায়ের ঘণ্টা বাজতে আর দেরি নেই। বাংলাদেশ নাকি শ্রীলঙ্কা-এই দোদুল্যমানতা কাটিয়ে এখন বিসিবির প্রস্তাব গ্রহণের ব্যাপারে চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে ফেলেছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। তবে আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে সেটি জানাতে পারছেন না তিনি ভিন্ন একটি কারণে। শ্রীলঙ্কার সঙ্গে ল'র চুক্তির মেয়াদ শেষ হবে নভেম্বরে। তাতে এখনই ইস্তফা দিতে গেলে শ্রীলঙ্কাকে তিন মাসের বেতন জরিমানা দিতে হবে। স্টুয়ার্ট ল নাকি চেষ্টা করছেন আলোচনার মাধ্যমে এ অঙ্ক যতটা সম্ভব কমিয়ে আনার। সে চেষ্টা সফল হলে শ্রীলঙ্কার ইংল্যান্ড সফর শেষ হলেই বাংলাদেশ দলের সঙ্গে যোগ দেবেন সাবেক এ অস্ট্রেলীয় ক্রিকেটার। কিন্তু শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেট যদি রাজি না হয়? তাহলে পথ খোলা আছে তিনটি।
১. ক্ষতিপূরণ দিয়ে বাংলাদেশে চলে আসলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল।
২. বিসিবি যদি সে ক্ষতিপূরণের দায়িত্ব নেয়।
৩. তিন মাসের নোটিশকাল শেষে সাকিবদের কোচ হলেন ল।
তৃতীয় শর্তই একমাত্র পথ হলে জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরে স্টুয়ার্ট ল'কে পাবে না বাংলাদেশ। আগের দুটি শর্তের যেকোনো একটির ক্ষেত্রে মধ্য জুলাইয়ে ঢাকায় দেখা যাবে তাঁকে। তবে শেষমেশ যে পন্থাই শ্রীলঙ্কা থেকে বিদায়ের উপায় ধরে নিন না কেন, 'বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় দলের নতুন কোচ স্টুয়ার্ট ল' ঘোষণাটা নাকি খুব সহসাই হয়ে যাবে।[/বাংলা]
Why is his phone off?
deshimon
June 22, 2011, 02:33 PM
If Imran Sarwar will be appointed as interim coach it's ok. But why BCB has made late. The earlier the better. Coach can get enough time for planing with the team.
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 02:33 PM
Yeah bhai, I am from syhlet...
And translated what?
That interim coach article.
Sylhet umm cool.
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 02:37 PM
That interim coach article.
Sylhet umm cool.
Oh yeah, it took quite long :D
And Syhlet > > > Dhaka!
Lol, jk bro, one nation, one bowl of rice :)
abzy
June 22, 2011, 02:37 PM
I want Tom moody as coach, fast bowling coach lance klusner, spinng bowling coach shane warne, batting coach brian lara that would make the best team for desh
deshimon
June 22, 2011, 03:13 PM
Lance Klusner will be fast bowling coach! Why?
Banglaguy
June 22, 2011, 03:37 PM
Lance Klusner will be fast bowling coach! Why?
Is he bad?
reyme
June 22, 2011, 07:52 PM
I want to see kofeenine (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/member.php?u=11933) as our Academy Batting Coach.
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 09:50 PM
Oh yeah, it took quite long :D
And Syhlet > > > Dhaka!
Lol, jk bro, one nation, one bowl of rice :)
Bangla bhai it's like i have lot of memories about sylhet, I spent a lot time in sylhet with friends. Friend der shathe nachte nachte went to London too!!
al-Sagar
June 22, 2011, 10:48 PM
http://eprothomalo.com/contents/2011/2011_06_23/content_zoom/2011_06_23_18_2_b.jpg
Crickbang
June 22, 2011, 11:06 PM
http://eprothomalo.com/contents/2011/2011_06_23/content_zoom/2011_06_23_18_2_b.jpg
Bhai/Apu, eita kon paper theke nisen? Bolle aktu khuje porle bhalo hoto. :)
nakedzero
June 22, 2011, 11:48 PM
Bhai/Apu, eita kon paper theke nisen? Bolle aktu khuje porle bhalo hoto. :)
Prothom Alo :-)
Click here to go this Source (http://www.eprothomalo.com/displaypage.php?id=2011_06_23_18_2_b)
hbk619
June 23, 2011, 01:45 AM
why go for stuart law and why go for sarwar imran? bcb can't think about aminul islam bulbul or mick newell?
LBW103
June 23, 2011, 03:02 AM
why go for stuart law and why go for sarwar imran? bcb can't think about aminul islam bulbul or mick newell?
Sawar Imran? Isn't he someone the players didn't want before?
Ammar
June 23, 2011, 03:35 AM
Lol, bhai, it's from google translate :D
I can read and write Bengali, but can only speak syhleti :(
why sad about speaking syhleti?
I can not write or read bangla! But still proud to speak Sylheti))
and thanks for the translation,
who is Sawar Imran.. any background information?
Rabz
June 23, 2011, 04:04 AM
দুই দিনের বৈরাগী, ভাত কে বলে অন্ন ।
কথাটা মাঝে মাঝেই মনে পড়ে যায়।
WarWolf
June 23, 2011, 04:48 AM
দুই দিনের বৈরাগী, ভাত কে বলে অন্ন ।
কথাটা মাঝে মাঝেই মনে পড়ে যায়।
[বাংলা]বিসিতে নিয়মিত্ আসলে কথাটা কি ভুলতে পারার উপায় আছে?[/বাংলা]
Banglaguy
June 23, 2011, 06:21 AM
why sad about speaking syhleti?
I can not write or read bangla! But still proud to speak Sylheti))
and thanks for the translation,
who is Sawar Imran.. any background information?
Not sad that I cant, but because all the newspapers and such are in Bangla (shuhdo basha) and I have to work slightly harder at working it our than others.
Also, do you speak syhleti?
Ammar
June 23, 2011, 06:26 AM
Not sad that I cant, but because all the newspapers and such are in Bangla (shuhdo basha) and I have to work slightly harder at working it our than others.
Also, do you speak syhleti?
Yes brother, I speak sylhetti, But dont know how to read or write bangla!
But I passed my GCSE Bangla like 6 or 7 years ego) Grade C... Just!
The speaking and listening did the job for me!
Banglaguy
June 23, 2011, 08:06 AM
Yes brother, I speak sylhetti, But dont know how to read or write bangla!
But I passed my GCSE Bangla like 6 or 7 years ego) Grade C... Just!
The speaking and listening did the job for me!
I'm did my Bangla GCSE in 2010, and I retook it this year :) (I got a B last time)
Speaking and listening is so easy! Lol, the way they go 'Saleha oila PASH bochor''
Teh, afna kila aso bhai?
What Secondary school you go to?
Avik
June 23, 2011, 09:28 AM
Picking Sarowar Imran might be a step back. he is always ready on the helm to take over the cricket team. what level of coaching does he have? picking bulbul or pilot could have been a better step.
well, a coach is better than no coach. though Grant Luden could have been trusted for coaching the team. dekhen ekhon gondogol lage kina.
akabir77
June 23, 2011, 10:05 AM
Imran is well respected among all the players and another jem that bangladesh got. I am not sure what level of coahcing certificate he has but I am sure that means nothing cause he have been teaching our boys in bksp for long time. but I think he got 2nd level (i am not sure). he is much better than bulbul or pilot. please don't dis people just because u don't know him or he is a bangali... I think he was also our coach during the 1st test.
Avik
June 23, 2011, 10:09 AM
he has been Bangladesh national team on several occasions. especially when Eddie Barlow got ill, he took over.
But I feel leaving the team on the hands of a level 3 coach, (Grant Luden) could have been a better idea for now..
cricadda
June 23, 2011, 02:07 PM
wow .......law puro vhabe ase.....amrai bcb pondit.... bolesen l. kamal.
cricadda
June 23, 2011, 02:10 PM
why go for stuart law and why go for sarwar imran? bcb can't think about aminul islam bulbul or mick newell?
can.....but don't have sense to....
deshimon
June 23, 2011, 03:52 PM
IMO Sarwar Imran is better than Bulbul or Pilot, because he has a long time coaching experience. He also coached national team before and all of our recent players respect him. But Pilot won't get respect from all.
roman
June 23, 2011, 04:00 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-06-24/news/164910
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বিসিবি এখনো আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে না জানালেও এটা এখন ‘ওপেন সিক্রেট’—স্টুয়ার ট ল-ই বাংলাদেশ দলের নতুন কোচ। কাল বিশ্বস্ত একটি সূত্রে এও নিশ্চিত হওয়া গেছে, আসন্ন জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরের আগেই বাংলাদেশ দলের দায়িত্ব নিচ্ছেন এই অস্ট্রেলিয়ান।
নতুন কোচের নাম না বললেও বিসিবির মিডিয়া কমিটির প্রধান জালাল ইউনুসও কাল আভাস দিয়েছেন সে রকমই, ‘আশা করছি, জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরের আগেই আমরা নতুন কোচ পেয়ে যাব।’ তাঁর বিশ্বাস, আগামী সোমবারের মধ্যে নতুন কোচের নাম ঘোষণা করতে পারবে বিসিবি।
বর্তমানে শ্রীলঙ্কা দলের সঙ্গে ইংল্যান্ড সফর করছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে তাঁর চুক্তি শেষ হওয়ার কথা আগামী নভেম্বরে। বাংলাদেশে এখনই চলে এলে ল-কে সেই চুক্তি ভেঙে আসতে হবে। শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে এখন সেটা নিয়েই তাঁর দেনদরবার চলছে। তবে কাল ইংল্যান্ড থেকে একটি সূত্র নিশ্চিত করেছে, চলতি যুক্তরাজ্য সফরের পরই শ্রীলঙ্কা দলের পাট চুকিয়ে ফেলবেন ল, চলে আসবেন বাংলাদেশে।
সূত্র জানিয়েছে, ‘যুক্তরাজ্য সফরের পরই শ্রীলঙ্কা দল ছাড়ছেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। আশা করা যায়, বাংলাদেশ দলের সঙ্গে তিনি জিম্বাবুয়ে সফরে যাবেন।’ জানা গেছে, নভেম্বরের আগে শ্রীলঙ্কা ক্রিকেট যদি তাঁকে না-ও ছাড়তে চায়, যুক্তরাজ্য সফরের পরপরই চাকরি ছেড়ে দেবেন ল।
ইংল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে শ্রীলঙ্কার তিন টেস্ট, এক টি-টোয়েন্টি ও পাঁচ ওয়ানডের সিরিজ শেষ হবে আগামী ৯ জুলাই। এরপর আয়ারল্যান্ড ও স্কটল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে এডিনবরায় দুটি ওয়ানডে শেষে ১৩ জুলাই শেষ হবে যুক্তরাজ্য সফর। প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচের জন্য দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকা হয়ে বাংলাদেশ দলের জিম্বাবুয়ের উদ্দেশে দেশ ছাড়ার কথা ১৯ জুলাই।
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firstlane
June 23, 2011, 07:59 PM
can someone tell me about Law's coaching profile? he must have achieved something as a coach for bcb to go gaga over him.
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MohammedC
June 23, 2011, 08:04 PM
can someone tell me about Law's coaching profile? he must have achieved something as a coach for bcb to go gaga over him.
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He is an Australian :-|
Crickbang
June 23, 2011, 09:32 PM
can someone tell me about Law's coaching profile? he must have achieved something as a coach for bcb to go gaga over him.
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He played in the county after being ditched from Aus. Assistant HC since 2009. Interim Head Coach since April 8th. That's most recent his coaching/playing resume. :)
It's even 10 times less than Siddons' resume. At least Jaime coached for at least 3 or 4 years before taking the top job. That's what you get for a coach when your players just crash out for 58 and 78 at the biggest stage of their lives. Embarrassing to the max level. Bolar ar kichu nai bhai. Enough said.
Murad
June 23, 2011, 10:40 PM
He played in the county after being ditched from Aus. Assistant HC since 2009. Interim Head Coach since April 8th. That's most recent his coaching/playing resume. :)
It's even 10 times less than Siddons' resume. At least Jaime coached for at least 3 or 4 years before taking the top job. That's what you get for a coach when your players just crash out for 58 and 78 at the biggest stage of their lives. Embarrassing to the max level. Bolar ar kichu nai bhai. Enough said.
Siddons spent only 2 years (2005-2007) with the Australian team as batting coach. Before that he was assistant coach for South Australia for few years.
Law is nothing less than Siddons. His profile is even heavier than Siddons as he played international cricket (54 ODIs and 1 Test). He was a good FC batsman.
Whoever comes I hope he will not whine like Siddons (we dont have Tendulkar, Brett Lee, Sangakara..and stuffs).
roman
June 23, 2011, 10:48 PM
Picking Sarowar Imran might be a step back. he is always ready on the helm to take over the cricket team. what level of coaching does he have? picking bulbul or pilot could have been a better step.
well, a coach is better than no coach. though Grant Luden could have been trusted for coaching the team. dekhen ekhon gondogol lage kina.
He coached the team that won Asian game's Gold. He is The most successful and experienced coach in our domestic arena. He coached Bulbul, Pilot, Sujon, Nannu you name it. He is the Guru of all the Desi coaches. Aar kisu bola lagbe vaia ? :)
LBW103
June 24, 2011, 02:01 AM
Whoever comes I hope he will not whine like Siddons (we dont have Tendulkar, Brett Lee, Sangakara..and stuffs).
The reason successive coaches say this is because most BD fans don't understand cricket. Win ONE match against a Test side and BD can "beat anyone", lose one match against an associate and it's world war three with rocks, stones and burning buses.
I am slightly exaggerating but not much. This is the problem. The supporters do not accept the team has huge limitations. That is not to say the team isn't good and doesn't have lots of ability. It is just that it doesn't have those sort of players that help OTHER teams be consistent. That's why the coaches say these things to try to manage the expectations of the fans, but they are wasting their time because the fans just take offense at the comments and think the coaches are criticizing the team, or making excuses. They are not.
If a coach comes out and says this about not having a Tendulkar etc, he is pointing out how much easier other teams' head coaches job is WITH players like that to call on.
The supporters don't really get that fact, judging their reaction and expectations, so expect the new HC to say EXACTLY the same things as Siddons said.
Biggus
June 24, 2011, 03:05 AM
The reason successive coaches say this is because most BD fans don't understand cricket. Win ONE match against a Test side and BD can "beat anyone", lose one match against an associate and it's world war three with rocks, stones and burning buses.
I am slightly exaggerating but not much. This is the problem. The supporters do not accept the team has huge limitations. That is not to say the team isn't good and doesn't have lots of ability. It is just that it doesn't have those sort of players that help OTHER teams be consistent. That's why the coaches say these things to try to manage the expectations of the fans, but they are wasting their time because the fans just take offense at the comments and think the coaches are criticizing the team, or making excuses. They are not.
If a coach comes out and says this about not having a Tendulkar etc, he is pointing out how much easier other teams' head coaches job is WITH players like that to call on.
The supporters don't really get that fact, judging their reaction and expectations, so expect the new HC to say EXACTLY the same things as Siddons said.
That's an excellent post mate. BD cricket has a bright future but it's still a work in progress and for the moment the fans will have to be satisfied with 'little miracles' and the occasional 'giant kill'. If it was easy to be one of the top teams it wouldn't feel so special once you got there. Have patience and give total support, win or lose. The players will benefit if they know the fans realise that they have a tough job to do but support them anyway. Playing and watching the game is supposed to be fun anyway. It's not a life or death thing, just a game, but what a beautiful game......
mac
June 24, 2011, 04:00 AM
He coached the team that won Asian game's Gold. He is The most successful and experienced coach in our domestic arena. He coached Bulbul, Pilot, Sujon, Nannu you name it. He is the Guru of all the Desi coaches. Aar kisu bola lagbe vaia ? :)
Totally second that.
lamisa
June 24, 2011, 09:23 AM
so stuart law coach shesh mesh?
cricadda
June 24, 2011, 04:30 PM
can someone tell me about Law's coaching profile? he must have achieved something as a coach for bcb to go gaga over him.
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law er amon ki ase je kamal mugdho???????:shh:
deshimon
June 24, 2011, 04:40 PM
dhekha jak shesh porjonto k hoy amader prtikkhito coach.
Crickbang
June 24, 2011, 11:18 PM
Bhai chinta koiren na. S. Law e Coach. BCB er arektu natok kora baki ase ai ja. Dhong na korle Lipu ar gang er bhalo lage na. Remember Siddons' hiring? They hired him by flying out to Mumbai secretly several weeks ago before the deadline, back in 2007 but acted like they can't find a coach to save their jobs, till the last moment. :) Don't worry bro.
Zeeshan
June 24, 2011, 11:35 PM
The reason successive coaches say this is because most BD fans don't understand cricket. Win ONE match against a Test side and BD can "beat anyone", lose one match against an associate and it's world war three with rocks, stones and burning buses.
I am slightly exaggerating but not much. This is the problem. The supporters do not accept the team has huge limitations. That is not to say the team isn't good and doesn't have lots of ability. It is just that it doesn't have those sort of players that help OTHER teams be consistent. That's why the coaches say these things to try to manage the expectations of the fans, but they are wasting their time because the fans just take offense at the comments and think the coaches are criticizing the team, or making excuses. They are not.
If a coach comes out and says this about not having a Tendulkar etc, he is pointing out how much easier other teams' head coaches job is WITH players like that to call on.
The supporters don't really get that fact, judging their reaction and expectations, so expect the new HC to say EXACTLY the same things as Siddons said.
Yeah....next to neuroscience it's the second most complicated event in the whole world. And yeah...we are taking offense at the comments let alone entertain the idea that maybe...just maybe coach might have ummm a scintilla to do with a taking responsibility instead of sweeping his shortcomings under the rug? Lucky it's Bangladesh were fans don't understand their sport and are "emotionally"...what? perturbed? Cuz if this was a developed country like USA-- where incidentally FANS DO UNDERSTAND their sport Siddons would have been sacked long time for his melodrama and whining to press about the team instead of backing them up.
Rule #?: Never lambaste or undermine your own team in front of others. Deride all you may ..but in the privacy of the dressing room. Team is what you nurture and guard like mother hen. Worst one can do is criticism about team's shortcomings to third party or press and demoralize the morals by saying 'oh you are not good enough like other world class players...' It's like your parent going to your neighbor and saying how weak your son is and was better built or prettier like other people's son in the neighborhood.
tonoy
June 24, 2011, 11:43 PM
Haah, surely would've thought you'd mention Mathematics, Quantum Physics or Some weird topic in cosmology instead of Neuroscience.
Zeeshan
June 24, 2011, 11:46 PM
Haah, surely would've thought you'd mention Mathematics, Quantum Physics or Some weird topic in cosmology instead of Neuroscience.
what am i? thick glass wearing nerdy never-kissed-a-girl geek? reported.
tonoy
June 24, 2011, 11:51 PM
what am i? thick glass wearing nerdy never-kissed-a-girl geek? reported.
So I'm guessing that's a no for the next Dungeons and Dragon meet? :(
LBW103
June 25, 2011, 01:36 AM
Yeah....next to neuroscience it's the second most complicated event in the whole world. And yeah...we are taking offense at the comments let alone entertain the idea that maybe...just maybe coach might have ummm a scintilla to do with a taking responsibility instead of sweeping his shortcomings under the rug? Lucky it's Bangladesh were fans don't understand their sport and are "emotionally"...what? perturbed? Cuz if this was a developed country like USA-- where incidentally FANS DO UNDERSTAND their sport Siddons would have been sacked long time for his melodrama and whining to press about the team instead of backing them up.
Rule #?: Never lambaste or undermine your own team in front of others. Deride all you may ..but in the privacy of the dressing room. Team is what you nurture and guard like mother hen. Worst one can do is criticism about team's shortcomings to third party or press and demoralize the morals by saying 'oh you are not good enough like other world class players...' It's like your parent going to your neighbor and saying how weak your son is and was better built or prettier like other people's son in the neighborhood.
I agree about your assessment of Siddons. This is why he LOST HIS JOB. He wanted to keep deflecting criticism. That wasn't my point at all.
The majority supporters (clearly not you as you totally understand all the nuances of the game) do not have any patience or ability to work out why BD cannot be consistent. So they blame the coach rather than the players. And this is also a responsibility issue. Players and fans have a responsibility here too.
Siddons got sacked. The players do not usually and the fans don't either. But attitudes stay the same. The new coach will say the same things again if fans boo and jeer their own players, stone buses and players homes and the players themselves keep saying 'inshallah' all the time when they lose. You are right this isn't neuroscience.
Rabz
June 25, 2011, 04:30 AM
so stuart law coach shesh mesh?
Tai to mone hochche.
Jodio khela ekhono baki ache.
auntu
June 25, 2011, 05:31 AM
দুই দিনের বৈরাগী, ভাত কে বলে অন্ন ।
কথাটা মাঝে মাঝেই মনে পড়ে যায়।
[বাংলা]বিসিতে নিয়মিত্ আসলে কথাটা কি ভুলতে পারার উপায় আছে?[/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]বন্ধুবর্গের সাথে সম্পূর্ণ সহমত। [/বাংলা]
al-Sagar
June 25, 2011, 06:09 AM
Tai to mone hochche.
Jodio khela ekhono baki ache.
BFF je drama dekhalo wkhon BCB ekta dekhabe .... ...
Rabz
June 25, 2011, 07:18 AM
^^ Bhai, BCB theke ar kono drama chai na.
Chai shudhu nishchoyota.
Football er coach khuje ana kono bepar na.
World er shob desh e football khele.
Kirket khele matro hate gona koyek ti desh.
darkFalgun
June 25, 2011, 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by Rabz
Football er coach khuje ana kono bepar na.
World er shob desh e football khele.
Kirket khele matro hate gona koyek ti desh.
While its true that a Football coach can be hired from a wide portion of the globe, its also true that the reputation that BAFUFE holds as an organization is not that pleasant. Any individual who would do a research on the fate of his predecessors would find termination of contracts before its completion with ugly brawl with management or players and salary disputes. Add to that, BD's mediocre status in the beautiful game. With that in mind, the appointment of coach overnight from European soil( irrespective of origin) IS pretty impressive.
Football of Bangladesh- at this point at least does not seem to be one of very high prospects. Cricket it seems is. We are one of the 9.5 elite countries to hold test status. Had someone like Salauddin been at the helm of BCCI, I think the progress of cricket would have multiplied by some folds. Instead, I have to settle with ******
Crickbang
June 25, 2011, 02:23 PM
Loitta: "Coach Final, tobe naam bolbo na" according to The Daily Inqilab. Are bhai announcement kobe diben tahole? Coach ta je ke ta to amrao jani. Apnar ar bolar dorkar nai. Apni CEO ke bolen announce korte shudhu. :) Btw, if I am not mistaken, they are announcing the coach on Monday (BD Time) right?
deshimon
June 25, 2011, 04:58 PM
Loitta: "Coach Final, tobe naam bolbo na" according to The Daily Inqilab. Are bhai announcement kobe diben tahole? Coach ta je ke ta to amrao jani. Apnar ar bolar dorkar nai. Apni CEO ke bolen announce korte shudhu. :) Btw, if I am not mistaken, they are announcing the coach on Monday (BD Time) right?
Oi bata coach final kore akhon nam bolbe na, othocho final korar agay koto ulta palta nam bollo.
Rabz
June 26, 2011, 12:25 AM
^^ Shei bhoyei to ekhon ar kichu bole na.
Crickbang
June 26, 2011, 01:32 AM
hey guys, NTV just reported Geoff Lawson is the coach!!! Did you read anything yet? Just saw that on the news bar. "Geoff Lawson to coach the national team on a make-shift arrangement-BCB"
Murad
June 26, 2011, 01:38 AM
hey guys, NTV just reported Geoff Lawson is the coach!!! Did you read anything yet? Just saw that on the news bar. "Geoff Law to coach the national team on a make-shift arrangement-BCB"
You are partially right. Lawson is coming to BD next month to coach the BCB National Academy team for a week or two. Not to coach the National team.
Crickbang
June 26, 2011, 01:41 AM
Well the English version said he will be coaching the national team! Just saw the bangla version too. Sorry I screwed up! DAMN THESE NEWS CHANNELS!! Bangla ar English shob ghola banay fele :(
max410
June 26, 2011, 05:31 AM
MICK NEWELL obviously i dont want law who is interested in money only thank you
Rabz
June 26, 2011, 06:05 AM
^^ Who is doing it for free ???
firstlane
June 26, 2011, 08:34 AM
You are partially right. Lawson is coming to BD next month to coach the BCB National Academy team for a week or two. Not to coach the National team.
Wish Geoff Lawson was the National Coach. He has more cricket brain and men management skills than anyone in the contention.
Banglaguy
June 26, 2011, 08:37 AM
^^ Who is doing it for free ???
I would. . .
firstlane
June 26, 2011, 08:47 AM
I would. . .
Banglaguy is really taking over Banglacricket. Every thread I go in, I see Banglaguy; every question I see asked is answered by Banglaguy. Is there an award in BC similar to the one we had in school for attendance?
WarWolf
June 26, 2011, 08:50 AM
Banglaguy is really taking over Banglacricket. Every thread I go in, I see Banglaguy; every question I see asked is answered by Banglaguy. Is there an award in BC similar to the one we had in school for attendance?
This syndrome we have seen in the past. Zeeshan or Nadim were similarly active in the past. This is a good thing. We need good enthusiasm to keep BC lively.
Banglaguy
June 26, 2011, 08:50 AM
Banglaguy is really taking over Banglacricket. Every thread I go in, I see Banglaguy; every question I see asked is answered by Banglaguy. Is there an award in BC similar to the one we had in school for attendance?
Good thing bad thing? Lol, I just want to use the knowledge allah has given me and see how far it takes me :)
This syndrome we have seen so far. Zeeshan or Nadim was similarly active in the past. This is a good thing. We need good enthusiasm to keep BC lively.
Yeah, its fun when everyone is posting, and all these opinions are different. But some days it is absolutely dead :(
deshimon
June 26, 2011, 11:33 AM
Banglaguy is really taking over Banglacricket. Every thread I go in, I see Banglaguy; every question I see asked is answered by Banglaguy. Is there an award in BC similar to the one we had in school for attendance?
He is an active user. It's, off course, positve.
rinathq
June 26, 2011, 04:17 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-06-27/news/165612
আগেভাগে কোচের নাম বলে কম ঝামেলা পোহাতে হয়নি। তাই এবার বাড়তি সতর্কতা। বিসিবি সভাপতি থেকে শুরু করে সবার মুখেই তালা—আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণার আগে নাম বলা হবে না কোচের। প্রতিদিনের মতো কালও শোনা গেল, সেই আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা হবে ‘আজকালের’ মধ্যেই।
কিন্তু গোপন কথা গোপন থাকে না। গত ৪ জুনের বোর্ড সভা থেকেই খবর বেরিয়ে যায়, বাংলাদেশ স্টুয়ার্ট ল-এর অপেক্ষায়। কথাবার্তা এগিয়ে গেছে অনেকটাই। অস্ট্রেলিয়ান এই কোচই যে জেমি সিডন্সের উত্তরসূরি হচ্ছেন, সেটি তখন থেকেই ‘ওপেন সিক্রেট’।
গত কয়েক দিন ধরে মুঠোফোন বার্তায় শ্রীলঙ্কা দলের ভারপ্রাপ্ত কোচ হিসেবে ইংল্যান্ড সফররত ল-র সঙ্গে যোগাযোগ হচ্ছিল প্রথম আলোর। বার্তা বিনিময়ের একপর্যায়ে গতকাল এই প্রতিবেদকের কাছে বাংলাদেশ দলের কোচ হওয়ার বিষয়টি নিশ্চিত করলেন স্টুয়ার্ট ল। জানিয়েছেন, যুক্তরাজ্য সফরের পরই বিদায় জানাচ্ছেন শ্রীলঙ্কান ক্রিকেটকে। সাকিব আল হাসানের দলের সঙ্গে যোগ দেবেন জিম্বাবুয়ে সফর শুরুর আগেই।
কিন্তু আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণার আগে খবরটা পত্রিকায় ছাপা হয়ে গেলে সমস্যা নেই তো? মুঠোফোন বার্তায় ল জানালেন, এখন তাঁকে উদ্ধৃত করেই লেখা যায় এই খবর। এরপর টেলিফোনে দিলেন দীর্ঘ সাক্ষাৎকার। অস্ট্রেলিয়ার হয়ে ১টি টেস্ট ও ৫৪টি ওয়ানডে খেলা সাবেক এই ক্রিকেটার বলেছেন, বাংলাদেশের কোচ হওয়ার ব্যাপারে তিনি প্রতিশ্রুতিবদ্ধ। কোচ হিসেবে তাঁর প্রধান লক্ষ্য হবে টেস্ট-ওয়ানডে দুটি র্যাঙ্কিংয়েই বাংলাদেশ দলকে আরও ওপরে তোলা।
Its official! Stuart Law is our head coach........ Lets all welcome him and hope that he advances our cricket furthur..... :)
Banglaguy
June 26, 2011, 05:00 PM
There you go. Done, dusted. A call of law and order should now be in place.
deshimon
June 27, 2011, 10:17 AM
Is Law final? Ok. At least BCB have finaled the coach. Welcome Law.
Rabz
June 27, 2011, 11:30 AM
Law prevails.
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