View Full Version : Ian Chappell criticises Bangladesh's Test Status Yet again !
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 06:45 AM
Neither of those two nations should be playing Test matches against any country. Instead, they should be competing on a second-tier level with other Associate nations and the stronger A teams in order to improve and provide ample proof they deserve to be elevated to Test status.
Read more (http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/521664.html)
Mr. Ian Chappell has been a big critic of Bangladesh Cricket and he did not spare a moment criticizing Bangladesh's Test Status to attack ICC. Actually, its our failure that we have given them (critics) a chance to speak ill of us. He obviously knows that no matter what, both Bangladesh & Zimbabwe will keep playing Test cricket despite their poor performances yet he never gets tired writing the same bull sh*t. Now, its really vital that we win against Zimbabwe and stamp our authority over Zimbabwe and give an answer to them (even that wont be enough until unless we get some positive result against top 6 teams).
Banglaguy
July 3, 2011, 06:50 AM
Who cares what this man thinks? They can't take our test status away now, they've invested to much into us.
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 06:50 AM
I know, many of us would say that, he (Ian Chappell) is right but i find it odd that he never sees any improvements in Bangladesh Cricket. There is no harm in positive criticism but what he is doing is just making complaints after complaints of Bangladesh Cricket which is very annoying.
Banglaguy
July 3, 2011, 06:53 AM
I know, many of us would say that, he (Ian Chappell) is right but i find it odd that he never sees any improvements in Bangladesh Cricket. There is no harm in positive criticism but what he is doing is just making complaints after complaints of Bangladesh Cricket which is very annoying.
Now, no one really wants us to lose our test status. They're seeing it as a challenge for their bowlers to get rid of our batsmen...
We are fast improving, and unlike most other teams, are not in a transition state.
zainab
July 3, 2011, 06:54 AM
I wonder why he does not criticize the WI team, they are not better than Bangladesh.
I still feel that there should have been a two tier system. It is no fun getting beaten up all the time by the likes of India, Australia, England and South Africa. The reason why these teams dont want to play BD is that there is no challenge. BD and Zim should play the longer version of the game against a few top associates,
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 06:54 AM
Who cares what this man thinks? They can't take our test status away now, they've invested to much into us.
Apparently, many people follow him and consider him as one of the best batsmen in International Cricket. He is a prominent writer. So, whatever he writes/speaks have an effect on other spectators/viewers. His writing/opinion gives them a strength to criticize us continuously.
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 07:01 AM
Now, no one really wants us to lose our test status. They're seeing it as a challenge for their bowlers to get rid of our batsmen...
We are fast improving, and unlike most other teams, are not in a transition state.
yes yes...you are right. we have been fast improving cricket team for over a decade YET we have not reached that point where no body would dare to criticize us.
simon
July 3, 2011, 07:03 AM
we gotta do something this year,test teams like Zim,Pak and WI are no more big threats for BD.
last two years we hv seen individual brilliance from Sakib,Tamim,Ryad,Mushy and Shahadat.
its time to put all these together and beat the hell out of these three teams this year.
otherwise I wont find enough reasons to hate what Ian Chappell is saying.
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 07:10 AM
I wonder why he does not criticize the WI team, they are not better than Bangladesh.
I still feel that there should have been a two tier system. It is no fun getting beaten up all the time by the likes of India, Australia, England and South Africa. The reason why these teams dont want to play BD is that there is no challenge. BD and Zim should play the longer version of the game against a few top associates,
If Ian suggests two tier system then why only including Bangladesh and Zimbabwe ?? Why not West Indies and Pakistan ?? What better cricket have they been playing than bottom 2 ? If he talks about performance then Pakistan, WI, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe should be relegated to Tier 2.
Banglaguy
July 3, 2011, 07:30 AM
yes yes...you are right. we have been fast improving cricket team for over a decade YET we have not reached that point where no body would dare to criticize us.
Actually, we have made improvements since pre-ICL fiasco. So about two years of really good progress.
dolcevita
July 3, 2011, 07:49 AM
Who cares about Ian Chappel
**** you men .
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shiplu
July 3, 2011, 08:10 AM
Ignore this chappel fellow, I don't even know who he is.
BanCricFan
July 3, 2011, 08:21 AM
Choppols are good only for two things. I think we all know about the second one.
firstlane
July 3, 2011, 08:39 AM
He has always been like that, not only about Bangladesh. Most of his opinions create controversy. Just to give an example someday he would praise Ricky Ponting like he is the biggest fan and other day he would term Ricky Ponting as the worst ever. He once proposed three day tests. I hate to hear his commentary these days. He sometimes talks out of his a**. These Chappel brothers attract controversy wherever they go, whatever they do. So it doesn't matter what they say, we will play tests in front of their eyes.
jashan83
July 3, 2011, 08:40 AM
He is right. There should be a 2 tier system with 8 Test Teams each. The teams should be told that this system will be applicable in 2013. The present system of ranking should be used and all the teams have the time to make it to top 8.
By 2 years we should be able to topple Zim, NZ and WI and come to a rank of 7. The test cycle would run for 4 years (2013-17) and in the end the bottom 2 teams should be relegated to Tier 2. Similarly the top 2 teams should be promoted to Tier 1 even if this means Pak and NZ being relegated and Ire and Afg being promoted to Tier 2.
Under present ranking 2 Tiers would look like
Tier 1:- Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus, Pak, NZ & WI
Tier 2:- BD, Zim, Ire, Ken, Afg, Scot, Neth & Can
Frankly presently there is huge diff between us and Windies and without playing I don't see it improving.
lamisa
July 3, 2011, 08:47 AM
doesn't matter kintu kothata toh shotto
Ian Pont
July 3, 2011, 10:54 AM
He is right. There should be a 2 tier system with 8 Test Teams each. The teams should be told that this system will be applicable in 2013. The present system of ranking should be used and all the teams have the time to make it to top 8.
By 2 years we should be able to topple Zim, NZ and WI and come to a rank of 7. The test cycle would run for 4 years (2013-17) and in the end the bottom 2 teams should be relegated to Tier 2. Similarly the top 2 teams should be promoted to Tier 1 even if this means Pak and NZ being relegated and Ire and Afg being promoted to Tier 2.
Under present ranking 2 Tiers would look like
Tier 1:- Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus, Pak, NZ & WI
Tier 2:- BD, Zim, Ire, Ken, Afg, Scot, Neth & Can
Frankly presently there is huge diff between us and Windies and without playing I don't see it improving.
ARE YOU MAD????
I don't know how the heck people think that by playing Scotland or Canada, Bangladesh is going to improve. Why would you guys want to go back to the dark old days?
Divsion One: Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus
Divison Two: Pak, NZ, WI, BD, Zim
Bottom of Div One swaps with top of Division two every calendar year.
Forget Associates cricket - they already have their own 5 divisions of cricket plus they cannot host or play 5 day test matches as amateur countries.
PLEASE STOP putting BD in with the minnows. They are a full test status team and need to play more test against better teams.
nakedzero
July 3, 2011, 11:03 AM
ARE YOU MAD????
.............
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PLEASE STOP putting BD in with the minnows. They are a full test status team and need to play more test against better teams.
:up::up::up:
Naimul_Hd
July 3, 2011, 11:03 AM
^ i like it :)
al Furqaan
July 3, 2011, 01:17 PM
ARE YOU MAD????
I don't know how the heck people think that by playing Scotland or Canada, Bangladesh is going to improve. Why would you guys want to go back to the dark old days?
Divsion One: Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus
Divison Two: Pak, NZ, WI, BD, Zim
Bottom of Div One swaps with top of Division two every calendar year.
Forget Associates cricket - they already have their own 5 divisions of cricket plus they cannot host or play 5 day test matches as amateur countries.
PLEASE STOP putting BD in with the minnows. They are a full test status team and need to play more test against better teams.
all those n-tier "Bangladeshis" are committing cricketing treason by siding with the PTB (powers that be) who wish nothing good upon BD cricket and wish to rob the associates as well.
they live in a lala land if they think NZ and WI would willingly accept being pushed into a 2nd tier. and i can't say i would disagree with NZ and WI. cricket needs to have more test nations, not less. since when is negative growth considered growth???
Isnaad
July 3, 2011, 01:43 PM
I will wait for that day when 160 million Bangladeshis turn into the biggest angry mob on earth and make Ian Choppoll rue his own words. Till then, sleep tight Sandal thukku Choppoll thukku Chappell
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deshimon
July 3, 2011, 02:10 PM
ARE YOU MAD????
I don't know how the heck people think that by playing Scotland or Canada, Bangladesh is going to improve. Why would you guys want to go back to the dark old days?
Divsion One: Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus
Divison Two: Pak, NZ, WI, BD, Zim
Bottom of Div One swaps with top of Division two every calendar year.
Forget Associates cricket - they already have their own 5 divisions of cricket plus they cannot host or play 5 day test matches as amateur countries.
PLEASE STOP putting BD in with the minnows. They are a full test status team and need to play more test against better teams.
:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:
akabir77
July 3, 2011, 05:14 PM
chapel who? if it was up to him every body would be bowling under arm by now...
RazabQ
July 3, 2011, 05:26 PM
chapel who? if it was up to him every body would be bowling under arm by now...Post of the thread with props to Ian's lambast!
roman
July 3, 2011, 05:36 PM
Didn't he force dada to retire and almost ended tenulkar's era? He should just shut his
Mouth
Zeeshan
July 3, 2011, 06:00 PM
Post of the thread with props to Ian's lambast!
What about..
Ian b. Ian
simon
July 3, 2011, 06:24 PM
eke diyei hobe,amader next coach.
aniksh1
July 3, 2011, 06:36 PM
Its time we played a full five day test and at least draw it against a top team....we take it to the fifth day but fail to get the draw...
ahms
July 3, 2011, 07:48 PM
Read more (http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/521664.html)
Mr. Ian Chappell has been a big critic of Bangladesh Cricket and he did not spare a moment criticizing Bangladesh's Test Status to attack ICC. Actually, its our failure that we have given them (critics) a chance to speak ill of us. He obviously knows that no matter what, both Bangladesh & Zimbabwe will keep playing Test cricket despite their poor performances yet he never gets tired writing the same bull sh*t. Now, its really vital that we win against Zimbabwe and stamp our authority over Zimbabwe and give an answer to them (even that wont be enough until unless we get some positive result against top 6 teams).
Who wouldn't? And it doesn't matter who said it, Ian or Geoffry, it has been 10 years since we got test status and we are no where near top eight. It is pathetic display of our cricket. Ireland have shown better trajectory than us. Hopeless Bangalee!!!!!
fuzzy
July 3, 2011, 08:05 PM
this guy is evidence of some illiterate aus... 1/ 3 aussies think like him......
Tintin
July 3, 2011, 09:21 PM
chapel who? if it was up to him every body would be bowling under arm by now...
Wrong Chappell. That was his brother :)
Jadukor
July 3, 2011, 10:01 PM
If Ian suggests two tier system then why only including Bangladesh and Zimbabwe ?? Why not West Indies and Pakistan ?? What better cricket have they been playing than bottom 2 ? If he talks about performance then Pakistan, WI, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe should be relegated to Tier 2.
Eventhough Pakistan cricket is in a pretty messed up state right now but still they have enough class and firepower in their bowling to take 20 wickets in a Test match so nobody takes them lightly. They did win a Test match against England in England and also against Australia through some incredible bowling by the banned duo of Amir and Asif. In ODIs they reached the semi finals of the worldcup. So as far as performance goes I don't see how we are comparable. West Indies might be the only side we can target but the fact that we got bowled out for 58 against them in our own soil doesn't bring about too much confidence.
on topic: Two or three years ago Chappel said Tendulkar should retire because he is past his prime. I don't think after that remark anyone would take him or his brother (who is screwing up australian cricket as selector right now) seriously
hassan .r
July 3, 2011, 10:42 PM
well mr ian chappel has lost it ............ he is critical of everyone except indian cricket team :):):):)
BANFAN
July 3, 2011, 11:36 PM
Didn't he force dada to retire and almost ended tenulkar's era? He should just shut his
Mouth
Wasn't it his brother .. GG ?
BASSMAN
July 4, 2011, 03:10 AM
Greggie please shut the crap.
Naimul_Hd
July 4, 2011, 03:18 AM
Greggie please shut the crap.
its not Greggie, the other one.
max410
July 4, 2011, 03:24 AM
Ian chappel is an experienced cricketer they understand cricket better than us i respect that but , improving as a team is not just for national cricket team we need a good cricketing infrastructure and good coaches in and academies and school level cricket we need to develop from the ground or root level which we never focused on .
On the contrary chappel meant us to play test matches against A teams to build up a solid foundation, instead of getting thrashed by innings all the time . we play 7 test in a year 4 matches we loose by innings.. which is realistically bad and poor performance, i wonder what BCB has in their mind in terms of a long term goal for BD cricket.
fuzzy
July 4, 2011, 04:59 AM
aus teaming falling down. he should worry about his own team.
simon
July 4, 2011, 05:57 AM
anyone can post our test records from 2009 till today so that we can see,compare with the previous years & see how much we improved?
I think back in 2008 or earlier it was a challenge for us to take a match to the 5th day,and avoid innings defeats,and I believe we did progress on those targets.
jawaherul
July 4, 2011, 06:33 AM
Wrong Chappell. That was his brother :)
He was not wrong. Trevor did ball the under-arm but the idea of bowling an under-arm at that moment came from the fertile brain of Ian, the captain then. Now I keep my comments to my self about who should bear the responsibility for the disgrace put on the gentlemen's game in this incident.
And about some other psot, Greig, the other brother is the one that coached India.
I hate all the Chappells and don't care about the opinion from any of them, period.
zainab
July 4, 2011, 06:44 AM
ARE YOU MAD????
I don't know how the heck people think that by playing Scotland or Canada, Bangladesh is going to improve. Why would you guys want to go back to the dark old days?
Divsion One: Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus
Divison Two: Pak, NZ, WI, BD, Zim
Bottom of Div One swaps with top of Division two every calendar year.
Forget Associates cricket - they already have their own 5 divisions of cricket plus they cannot host or play 5 day test matches as amateur countries.
PLEASE STOP putting BD in with the minnows. They are a full test status team and need to play more test against better teams.
Thoroughly agreed with Ian here., excepting in Division 2, a few 4 day games should be played against Ireland, Netherlands and Scotland
Divsion One: Ind, SA, Eng, SL, Aus
Divison Two: Pak, NZ, WI, BD, Zim
Bottom of Div One swaps with top of Division two every calendar year
Right approach, but I dont think the ICC will do this.
Jadukor
July 4, 2011, 07:05 AM
If you set targets low enough then any side would be able to reach them. If the target after 10 years was to take test matches into 5th day and avoiding innings defeats then we have more or less achieved it. Now all we have to figure out is how many decades it will take till we achieve the target of bowling sides out twice
Jadukor
July 4, 2011, 07:08 AM
He was not wrong. Trevor did ball the under-arm but the idea of bowling an under-arm at that moment came from the fertile brain of Ian, the captain then. Now I keep my comments to my self about who should bear the responsibility for the disgrace put on the gentlemen's game in this incident.
And about some other psot, Greig, the other brother is the one that coached India.
I hate all the Chappells and don't care about the opinion from any of them, period.
nope it was not Ian Chappell... it was Greg who was the captain at the time and it was his instruction
Biggus
July 4, 2011, 05:34 PM
nope it was not Ian Chappell... it was Greg who was the captain at the time and it was his instruction
Indeed you are correct. Ian had retired at the time and I suspect he would have been very critical of Greg's actions, for they are very different men. Ian is very much the pugnacious romantic and Greg the calculating accountant.
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