Sakib and Tamim should just STFU now

[samircreep]

Our beloved leader and his amazing sidekick.

Will the finally shut up now? Will our media and fans finally realise how much we have hyped these two? Will analysts and pundits alike realise that we have a big leadership vacuum and these two are not the solution to BD cricket?

No we won't.

As soon as we beat ZIMB in the one dayers the hype will start again.

Pathetic day for our cricket today guys. I hand my head in shame. Sakib will probably go off to shoot another polar icecream commercial and Tamim will not take his foot out of his mouth.

I am ashamed. ZIMB, wear your colours with pride.

[WarWolf]

Don't understand the post!! Actually what's the point?

[samircreep]

take out the dictionary again...

[WarWolf]

take out the dictionary again...
You'd better read your post when your head is cooled down again. :)

[simon]

may be a silly thing to say but i don't know if the IPL affects us negatively,
first MAsh & Ash, and now Sakib.

[samircreep]

i dont think it's gonna cool down ever.

besides, that's still not an excuse for you to take out the dusty dictionary of yours....

[firstlane]

may be a silly thing to say but i don't know if the IPL affects us negatively,
first MAsh & Ash, and now Sakib.

ash was long gone before ipl.
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[Surfer]

Too late to STFU.

[samircreep]

may be a silly thing to say but i don't know if the IPL affects us negatively,
first MAsh & Ash, and now Sakib.


simon, it's not just about technique and shot selection. it's about leadership. i just don't think these two have any!

[revolver]

Ash is a superhero please don't raise any questions against him
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[simon]

Tamim is by far the most arrogant but confident BD player we have.
I wonder what he might do if he becomes the captain of BD.

[shakibrulz]

What did shakib do ffs? He batted and bowled okay, shouldve done better, but what about the rest, especially the pacers?
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[salin]

i agree, this two are not the solution to BD cricket. captancy should be ceased from sakib but we need tamim for his batting aggression.

[lamisa]

^^^ seriously shakibrulz, didn't u see the shot he played to get out today?

[dolcevita]

shakib is too over rated as a batsman h

[BASSMAN]

As usual tamim is following shewag the same manner he bats and also the same way give dubious comments. Only difference is that shewag is usually right or proves he right.
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[Shaan]

All these days I was pro Shakib leadership despite we had a madeup( Rahim who had led These Shakib and Tamim U-19) leader like Rahim. But now I believe the leadership had spoiled Shakib much more then I imagined. Leader like Rahim should be the leader, not someone on random who never been leader like Shakib, cause that spoils their head !! I had come to this conclusion after seeing this test match !! Tamim should never ever be captain or vice captain, he is another arrogant person who talk much then concentrate on his own duty !!

[Isnaad]

Who do we have then?

[Shaan]

Who do we have then?
Rahim, he is the leadership material as we know he has been captaining for the junior stages and was captain of Tamim and Shakib in U-19 team.

[zainab]

We have Mushy, he was the captain of the U19 team and they did well under him, but changing Sakib now is not the best solution, the whole team failed from the beginning.

[napoleonIV]

What did shakib do ffs? He batted and bowled okay, shouldve done better, but what about the rest, especially the pacers?
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Batted OK?? Have you seen his attitude to batting in the second innings?

[rinathq]

Its bad enough us losing already. We dont have to start bashing our best players. They are young, they are daring, they will mature as a player eventually.

[Rifat_02]

Its bad enough us losing already. We dont have to start bashing our best players. They are young, they are daring, they will mature as a player eventually.

Havent we been saying that for the last 11 years?
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[shakibrulz]

^^^ seriously shakibrulz, didn't u see the shot he played to get out today?

Yes retarded shot. But he still was the best performer in the whole friggin team! I know we expect much more and all that but jeez, cut him some slack, will ya?
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[shakibrulz]

Batted OK?? Have you seen his attitude to batting in the second innings?

Yeah though I didnt forget his first inning LIKE YOU GUYS. So yes, overall he batted okay despite his pathetic shot.
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[Haradhon]

Our beloved leader and his amazing sidekick.

I am ashamed. ZIMB, wear your colours with pride.

I would agree with you if you are saying that Shak and TI can learn from Brandon Taylor about being logical and rational when making comments to media. For instance Shak could have congratulated the Zimbabwe team for their fighting comeback to test arena, which is in a way also positive for us since we are not going too far down with a loss in this test.
TI can seek some help on how to make comments to media, especially on how not to appear arrogant when he is in reality trying show his resolve; at times they are uttering pharses they perhaps memorized without thinking beforehand as they are not native English speakers
I diagree with you as to being ashamed of our performance. I hope you are not ruling out the superb training and preparation ZImbabwe have gone through for this match; Current Zimbabwean crickets have compatriots like Grant Flower, Campbell who in the past tormented other test nations; these top notch ex-internationals are now are advising the team for the past few years on its incremental build-up. The obvious outcome of this preparation has been there return to test with a bang. We had no idea about the bowlers like Vitori and Jarvis and did not have a plan on how to play them since Zim did not play any tests. I am not surprised by their performance. The bouncy pitch where ZIm has an advantage over BD should be factored too when analysing just finished match.
I do not think BD's test status has been diminished by this loss; to the contrary it affirms our place as a team to beat
I take it a win-win and hope that BD learn and do better in the ODIs

[Night_wolf]

Tamim should STFU...at least shakib in the past backed his words..i see nothing from tamim

[nahaz]

Firstly, I do not think removing Shakib from captaincy would do us any good. Sakib is still a world class bowler. He still is capable of being a good leader. More importantly, Tamim and Sakib are both divas, and if Mushfiqur Rahim becomes the captain instead of them, they'd whinge till they split the team.

Mushfiqur is the only alternative captaincy material in our team. But not until sakib wants to quit, or if he hasn't changed his behaviour in another year.

And now to slam these two....

You fricken idiots!! When will you two learn that you always needto back up words with action? You both kept saying even before the test match that we were clear favourites, and Zimbabwe had little chance. And you continued doing it during the match. Why do you have to keep creating distractions for yourselves in the middle of a test match or tourament (World Cup)? There is a reason most players are boring in press conferences.

Shakib, no doubt you can bat. But with so much time in test matches, why are you always in a rush? Work hard with the coach on this one. Practice your shots all throughtout the year. Even on Eid day. Its only because of your bowling talent that you managed to get to World no.1 before. Not everyone is like that. I bet Tendulkar at 38+ still works on his batting way more tan you work on your abttign and bowling combined. I'm not going to give you a pep talk today. Just wanted to let you know you are not as big as you think, in world cricket. Your attitude stops you being that person.

Tamim, you need to score runs to back your statements. Some you having an attitude is awesome. I think it is stupid. You making outrageous statements only make you distracted from your job. You always get distracted when batting. Still remember Vettori managing to pissing you by jumping up and down. You shouldn't be affected by that kind of stuff. And by the way,you are not nearly as good as you think you are. If you were, you would make more big scores and have us win test matches single-handedly. If you remember Lara, he used to single-handedly save test matches, and win test matches. I know you cannot be Lara or Sobers, but consider this: Jonathan Trott and Ian Bell, two supposedly boring and talentless batsmen, are no.4 and 5 on the list and you are 19. What's more important, even if they are 5/50, these guys can be relied upon to get a big hundred time and again. If you can do that, we would be better off.

You two would think I am being unfair just by singling you two out, but you two always seem to be walking around with puffy chest and neither seem to be able to win too many matches singlehandedly with the bat. What is worse, if someone else manages to get us to a position from which we CAN win, you two still cannot be relied upon to do your job and win.

Hope your guys fix your attitude and concentrate more on your cricket. If you do, Bangladesh would win more and you two automatically will get more famous and shutup all the Sehwags and the baised journos in the world. Action is louder than words. I bet you two do not know that.

P.S: Shakib, seems as if your captaincy is losing the edginess you once used to have. And what is it with not trusting any bowling but Razzak and yourself? You hardly use Riyad, and you pull the trigger on the pacers too easily both inside and outside the cricket field. If you do not trust your bowlers to deliver during crunch time, they would not learn to deliver. Important for them to learn to win us matches now nstead of waiting till the next World Cup Also remember that is in Australia. So you would definitely need to have 5 pacers that can do the job as well as the once-mediocrish Zaheer Khan.

[samircreep]

I would agree with you if you are saying that Shak and TI can learn from Brandon Taylor about being logical and rational when making comments to media. For instance Shak could have congratulated the Zimbabwe team for their fighting comeback to test arena, which is in a way also positive for us since we are not going too far down with a loss in this test.
TI can seek some help on how to make comments to media, especially on how not to appear arrogant when he is in reality trying show his resolve; at times they are uttering pharses they perhaps memorized without thinking beforehand as they are not native English speakers
I diagree with you as to being ashamed of our performance. I hope you are not ruling out the superb training and preparation ZImbabwe have gone through for this match; Current Zimbabwean crickets have compatriots like Grant Flower, Campbell who in the past tormented other test nations; these top notch ex-internationals are now are advising the team for the past few years on its incremental build-up. The obvious outcome of this preparation has been there return to test with a bang. We had no idea about the bowlers like Vitori and Jarvis and did not have a plan on how to play them since Zim did not play any tests. I am not surprised by their performance. The bouncy pitch where ZIm has an advantage over BD should be factored too when analysing just finished match.
I do not think BD's test status has been diminished by this loss; to the contrary it affirms our place as a team to beat
I take it a win-win and hope that BD learn and do better in the ODIs

Zimbabwe's superb preparation for this match?? You must be joking!! They haven't played a test match in 6.5 years!! We were bowled out by two opening bolwers who haven't bowled a single over in the history of test matches!! We were outbatted by a batsman (Taylor) who had a lower test match average than our Razzak!!

This is a win-win situation for us???

[Night_wolf]

Zimbabwe's superb preparation for this match?? You must be joking!! They haven't played a test match in 6.5 years!!

have u seen what zim was doing in the last months?

[samircreep]

Firstly, I do not think removing Shakib from captaincy would do us any good. Sakib is still a world class bowler. He still is capable of being a good leader. More importantly, Tamim and Sakib are both divas, and if Mushfiqur Rahim becomes the captain instead of them, they'd whinge till they split the team.

Mushfiqur is the only alternative captaincy material in our team. But not until sakib wants to quit, or if he hasn't changed his behaviour in another year.

And now to slam these two....

You fricken idiots!! When will you two learn that you always needto back up words with action? You both kept saying even before the test match that we were clear favourites, and Zimbabwe had little chance. And you continued doing it during the match. Why do you have to keep creating distractions for yourselves in the middle of a test match or tourament (World Cup)? There is a reason most players are boring in press conferences.

Shakib, no doubt you can bat. But with so much time in test matches, why are you always in a rush? Work hard with the coach on this one. Practice your shots all throughtout the year. Even on Eid day. Its only because of your bowling talent that you managed to get to World no.1 before. Not everyone is like that. I bet Tendulkar at 38+ still works on his batting way more tan you work on your abttign and bowling combined. I'm not going to give you a pep talk today. Just wanted to let you know you are not as big as you think, in world cricket. Your attitude stops you being that person.

Tamim, you need to score runs to back your statements. Some you having an attitude is awesome. I think it is stupid. You making outrageous statements only make you distracted from your job. You always get distracted when batting. Still remember Vettori managing to pissing you by jumping up and down. You shouldn't be affected by that kind of stuff. And by the way,you are not nearly as good as you think you are. If you were, you would make more big scores and have us win test matches single-handedly. If you remember Lara, he used to single-handedly save test matches, and win test matches. I know you cannot be Lara or Sobers, but consider this: Jonathan Trott and Ian Bell, two supposedly boring and talentless batsmen, are no.4 and 5 on the list and you are 19. What's more important, even if they are 5/50, these guys can be relied upon to get a big hundred time and again. If you can do that, we would be better off.

You two would think I am being unfair just by singling you two out, but you two always seem to be walking around with puffy chest and neither seem to be able to win too many matches singlehandedly with the bat. What is worse, if someone else manages to get us to a position from which we CAN win, you two still cannot be relied upon to do your job and win.

Hope your guys fix your attitude and concentrate more on your cricket. If you do, Bangladesh would win more and you two automatically will get more famous and shutup all the Sehwags and the baised journos in the world. Action is louder than words. I bet you two do not know that.

P.S: Shakib, seems as if your captaincy is losing the edginess you once used to have. And what is it with not trusting any bowling but Razzak and yourself? You hardly use Riyad, and you pull the trigger on the pacers too easily both inside and outside the cricket field. If you do not trust your bowlers to deliver during crunch time, they would not learn to deliver. Important for them to learn to win us matches now nstead of waiting till the next World Cup Also remember that is in Australia. So you would definitely need to have 5 pacers that can do the job as well as the once-mediocrish Zaheer Khan.

Dude, I agree with every single point you have made here. Well said.

[samircreep]

have u seen what zim was doing in the last months?

I have. Have you seen our preparation for the last DECADE??

[samircreep]

have u seen what zim was doing in the last months?


Annd buddy, if you feel like quoting, please do quote the entire post. i was making a point, quoting one sentence is kinda a low blow

[Naimul_Hd]

One of my friends had privileged to talk with one of the foreign guys involved with the BD coaching staff earlier who said that, "guys like shakib / tamim / ashraful think of themselves as superstars and dont practice hard enough. Even during normal practice sessions here at home in Dhaka, shakib rarely bats or bowls and tamim only faces net bowlers and doesnt bat against any of the bowlers in the team. and in the months before the world cup tamim apparently only used to practice the slog sweep that too while wearing only one pad and in a very chilled out way". Tamim himself said in the press that, he does not like to practice on the net one day before the game.

So, what kind of performance do you expect ??

[roman]

If we had bowlers like Zim we would have been a force in cricket by now..The way they were swinging and pitching the ball was superb...Give credit where its due.

And on top of that we dont like it when the opponents call us ordinary or claim them as favorites..I remember Tamim didnt like it when Sehwag called us ordinary... Just a reminder Tamim and Shak, cricket is still a gentleman's game..

[Naimul_Hd]

If we had bowlers like Zim we would have been a force in cricket by now..The way they were swinging and pitching the ball was superb...Give credit where its due.

And on top of that we dont like it when the opponents call us ordinary or claim them as favorites..I remember Tamim didnt like it when Sehwag called us ordinary... Just a reminder Tamim and Shak, cricket is still a gentleman's game..

Tamim's comment was very uncalled for, its one thing to be confident and aggressive another thing to disrespect the opposition.

Rule is simple:

Don’t throw bricks when you live in a glass house.

[kofeenine]

Seriously speaking, this is a hopeless thread like Bangladesh Cricket. There is no point of blaming Shakib and Tamim after the defeat! They set a certain field for a particular bowler and they end up bowling s**t. Tamim gives a good start and others fail to capitalize on that. Do you think a captain or a vice captain and their decisions can make a huge difference if the players themselves are not trying to be different? Its not Taylor alone but the intention of each and every member of Zimbabwe team that brings such success to them. And this is true for every single test playing nation. Once, the batters are out in the field, its solely the batters responsibility to understand his duty. No SHakib and Tamim can help them! They can set fielding strategies for the bowlers, but again the bowler has to work on his line and length. Then why putting shameless blame on Shakib and Tamim only? Just because they are better players than others?! Just because they actually perform better than others? I firmly believe, these two deserve to have a team with some resistance but they don't get that!

I hope Ashraful with his new visible temperament becomes the third person in the block. Other than that, everyone is utter hopeless. Who is to be blamed if they are not developing as cricketers?

[Night_wolf]

One of my friends had privileged to talk with one of the foreign guys involved with the BD coaching staff earlier who said that, "guys like shakib / tamim / ashraful think of themselves as superstars and dont practice hard enough. Even during normal practice sessions here at home in Dhaka, shakib rarely bats or bowls and tamim only faces net bowlers and doesnt bat against any of the bowlers in the team. and in the months before the world cup tamim apparently only used to practice the slog sweep that too while wearing only one pad and in a very chilled out way". Tamim himself said in the press that, he does not like to practice on the net one day before the game.

So, what kind of performance do you expect ??

thb tam and shak are still our best players..so if others can be as good as them practicing there way i wont mind

[Haradhon]

We were bowled out by two opening bolwers who haven't bowled a single over in the history of test matches!! We were outbatted by a batsman (Taylor) who had a lower test match average than our Razzak!!

This is a win-win situation for us???
BTW Taylor's test average is 28.47 in 11 tests and Razzak's is 18. One has to appreciate Taylor's 71 and 105 in this match, regardless of his earlier low test average. He performed just like the Shakib performed in our win in the WI and NZ series.
Vitori and Jarvis have not bowled in the past, however our star batters were always uncomfortable playing Jarvis. I would be wrong only if our batters sky them with 6's to gallery in the coming ODI series! It is not whether we have not seen them bowling in test matches, it is how they have prepared and how they have performed for the win they deserve. You made my point stronger that our lack of preparation was a factor that we lost the match.
As for win-win, there is nothing wrong to have Zim back in the test fold. We are still overall better which the ODI series might prove. We need to work hard to keep our edge over Zimbabwe. For me having a couple of Mashrafee-type pacers in the squad to handle overseas tours

[Beamer]

Tamim needs to STFU. Period. Look at his comments : " We will beat them, if we don't do anything silly"- Guess what? Not doing anything silly will be against the norm for us. Chasing 276 on final day with 3 wkts down, and he has the nerve to say we will win ! Even big teams will struggle to win from that position. Does he understand test cricket at all? His other comments about Jarvis and Vitroi- " They are ordinary". Guess what? They took 10 wkts between them and had out top order fishing all day. BTW, they had 0 test matches between them. Those two are better than what we have in our pacers already. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Above all, when you score 45 and 15, it looks stupid to call people out. The joke is on him. Getting tired of his mouth. If you wanna be a Shewag, get a hundred first, and maybe I can deal with your mouth.

[kofeenine]

Rahim, he is the leadership material as we know he has been captaining for the junior stages and was captain of Tamim and Shakib in U-19 team.

Yes. We are talking about a player who cant even cross 30 decently and who drops regular chances while keeping! lol!

[tiger_army]

^^^ seriously shakibrulz, didn't u see the shot he played to get out today?

the game was already over, what he could do alone...?

[Haradhon]

I hope Ashraful with his new visible temperament becomes the third person in the block.
If I have to take one positive that would be Ash's handling of Zim pacers - he played Jarvis better than the remaining squad did...

[Naimul_Hd]

thb tam and shak are still our best players..so if others can be as good as them practicing there way i wont mind

Shakib and Tamim are our best players that's why they need to practice harder and make themselves as role model for others. When your best cricketers act like bunch of ill minded peeps then what will the effect on others ? How do you expect that others will have the urge to practice harder and concentrate on the game when your own best players do not take it seriously ?

Sachin, Ponting, kallis are the best players for the respective countries. They never practices less than any ordinary players despite being best players rather they take practice more seriously and improve their techniques on continuous basis. Look where they are now. Then why cant tamim and shakib do that ? We are not asking them to be Sachin, Ponting. We are just asking them to take their game seriously and to take some responsibilities. What's wrong with that ? Superstar ? my foot !

[Night_wolf]

^now when u put it that way i'll have to agree:D

yes superstar my foot

[dash]

as if anyone else would have made the difference....the captain is only as good as the team........i doubt even captain steve waugh, captain ponting or captain imran khan would have made any difference...we keep on overlooking the massive holes....this loss would have probably been avoided with some better planning....we had a very lethergic team out there who were not out of the pre-season mode and lead by a visibly tired captain....

[samircreep]

BTW Taylor's test average is 28.47 in 11 tests and Razzak's is 18. One has to appreciate Taylor's 71 and 105 in this match, regardless of his earlier low test average. He performed just like the Shakib performed in our win in the WI and NZ series.
Vitori and Jarvis have not bowled in the past, however our star batters were always uncomfortable playing Jarvis. I would be wrong only if our batters sky them with 6's to gallery in the coming ODI series! It is not whether we have not seen them bowling in test matches, it is how they have prepared and how they have performed for the win they deserve. You made my point stronger that our lack of preparation was a factor that we lost the match.
As for win-win, there is nothing wrong to have Zim back in the test fold. We are still overall better which the ODI series might prove. We need to work hard to keep our edge over Zimbabwe. For me having a couple of Mashrafee-type pacers in the squad to handle overseas tours

Taylor's average NOW after this unbeaten century against us is 28. Prior to that, his was 17.6, 1 run lower than Razzak's.

[samircreep]

Let's recap WHY I posted this, and why I am royally pissed at these two:

1. A couple of years ago, Siddons pointed out that leadership was one area where we definitely need to improve. Siddons pointed out to Sakib and Tamim who he thinks have plenty of 'natural talent.' At that time, i agreed. Aside from Mushfiq, I really do not see anyone having both strategical and motivational skills. Their performances LEADING this young team have seriously weakened my assumptions.

2. Performances, interviews, and the way these two have led the team make me belief hat these two have this sense of entitlement. This sense that they are 'bigger' than the team has been partly cultivated by team management (both their lackadaisical approach to training, attending team meetings, and even performances) are not only weighing the team down at present, but are seriously poor indicators for the future.

3. My biggest worry is that these two do not have a sense of ownership over the team. When i listen to the tendulkars, Laras and Kalli's of the respective teams, I sense the pride with which they talk about their teams, and the hurt on their faces when they lose. It's a visceral experience, as it should be since representing your country is an also emotional experience. But more importantly, they feel they 'own' the team in a good way: they want to take over the burdens of the whole team and carry it on their shoulders, for the good or the bad. How many years have Lara singlehandedly carried his team on his back?
Obviously TI and SH do not have the same talent as the ones I mentioned, but they are the Laras and tendulkars of OUR team. And yet they behave as if they are just visitors, and shirk at the slightest opportunity of taking ownership over the team.

[lamisa]

the game was already over, what he could do alone...?

the game wasn't over. the game is never over in a situation like that. atleast he could have given it a shot! what sort of body language did he have? why did he play that stupid shot? it was so rash

[Rifat]

Tamim needs to STFU. Period. Look at his comments : " We will beat them, if we don't do anything silly"- Guess what? Not doing anything silly will be against the norm for us. Chasing 276 on final day with 3 wkts down, and he has the nerve to say we will win ! Even big teams will struggle to win from that position. Does he understand test cricket at all? His other comments about Jarvis and Vitroi- " They are ordinary". Guess what? They took 10 wkts between them and had out top order fishing all day. BTW, they had 0 test matches between them. Those two are better than what we have in our pacers already. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Above all, when you score 45 and 15, it looks stupid to call people out. The joke is on him. Getting tired of his mouth. If you wanna be a Shewag, get a hundred first, and maybe I can deal with your mouth.

Post of excellent quality :)

[laki]

Let's recap WHY I posted this, and why I am royally pissed at these two:

1. A couple of years ago, Siddons pointed out that leadership was one area where we definitely need to improve. Siddons pointed out to Sakib and Tamim who he thinks have plenty of 'natural talent.' At that time, i agreed. Aside from Mushfiq, I really do not see anyone having both strategical and motivational skills. Their performances LEADING this young team have seriously weakened my assumptions.

2. Performances, interviews, and the way these two have led the team make me belief hat these two have this sense of entitlement. This sense that they are 'bigger' than the team has been partly cultivated by team management (both their lackadaisical approach to training, attending team meetings, and even performances) are not only weighing the team down at present, but are seriously poor indicators for the future.

3. My biggest worry is that these two do not have a sense of ownership over the team. When i listen to the tendulkars, Laras and Kalli's of the respective teams, I sense the pride with which they talk about their teams, and the hurt on their faces when they lose. It's a visceral experience, as it should be since representing your country is an also emotional experience. But more importantly, they feel they 'own' the team in a good way: they want to take over the burdens of the whole team and carry it on their shoulders, for the good or the bad. How many years have Lara singlehandedly carried his team on his back?
Obviously TI and SH do not have the same talent as the ones I mentioned, but they are the Laras and tendulkars of OUR team. And yet they behave as if they are just visitors, and shirk at the slightest opportunity of taking ownership over the team.

I really like this post. In particular, the contrast between entitlement and ownership is an eye opener.

[AMD128]

This is what Brendan Taylor has to say about Tamim. I have to say Tamim really is being too arrogant. He was soo confident about saying he'll win. Now look who won. -__-

“Let your performances do the talking and don't concentrate too much with your mouth. We always get negative comments from the Bangladesh side and that inspires us. I think he can have a good look at himself,” said Taylor.

Source (http://http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=197779)

[Shakil_TX]

Our pace attack was pretty much toothless. To me we had let Zim score way too many runs. Their pacers bowled with much more consistency and accuracy, where our pacers were all over the place. Our batsmen still has not learned the difference between Test and ODI. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT PLAY TEST CRICKET WITH AN ODI MENTALITY AND MINDSET. We lost not because our players lack of any talent here, we lost because they lack of professionalism and game temperament and the ability to get the job done.

[reyme]

I blame the reporters and some chamchas around him for him to become like this.
The guy is still very young, so I would ignore his comments for now. But sure the boy needs some guidance towards becoming professional and more matured.
Otherwise he is bound look like a fool as Law pointed out..
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[Souf88]

We have Mushy, he was the captain of the U19 team and they did well under him, but changing Sakib now is not the best solution, the whole team failed from the beginning.

when mushy was in under 19 team captain i think i have heard some rumour about grouping in u19 team. And our team was lost against nepal u19 team. And bcb warned mushy.
I was very little then. Correct me if i m wrong.
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[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by lamisa
^^^ seriously shakibrulz, didn't u see the shot he played to get out today?


The SHOTS he played to get out ...... in fact he had to play that same nonsense shot repeatedly, to get out.

[Naimul_Hd]

when mushy was in under 19 team captain i think i have heard some rumour about grouping in u19 team. And our team was lost against nepal u19 team. And bcb warned mushy.
I was very little then. Correct me if i m wrong.

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Nope. It was Nafees Iqbal who was accused of grouping.

[salin]

even Zimbabwe XI out-batted us and we are saying they are ordinary.
ashob asholay jatir babar shikkha , aangul tulay kotha bola

[salin]

Its bad enough us losing already. We dont have to start bashing our best players. They are young, they are daring, they will mature as a player eventually.

when they will be mature enough they will be out of the team

[lamisa]

The SHOTS he played to get out ...... in fact he had to play that same nonsense shot repeatedly, to get out.

that's what hurt so much! since when did he become that sort of a player? ekbar na parle, leave it. pore oi shot khelar ball ashle khelba.na! jai shamne dekhe tai cut korte gese!

that's so ashraful!