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Rubu
February 24, 2004, 10:05 PM
Since the beginning of out cricket history, opener problem is considered one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) problem of our team. It can be said that we never had a pair of openers upon whom we can relly on. For the longest time, Atahar Ali meant the opener of national team. Even with that, we never were able to give him one partner who can support him. What we didn't try? We even brought Durjoy to opening looking at srilanka. Its not that we never had any good opener. Besides Atahar Ali, we had Opi, Golla, and recent Bidyut or Hannan. Well, we never had two that really clicked. It has begin a tradition for us to loose a wicket with 10(+/-) runs and then begin the play. This thread is about openers. These are the points I think we can focus on:

1. What do u think is the biggest problem with our openers.
2. What can be solutions to those problems.
3. Whom do u think the best and worst opener.
4. Best or worst opener pair.
5. Possible future openers.

In short, anything about openers.

fwullah
February 24, 2004, 11:00 PM
1. Our best opening pair in Test cricket so far:

Javed Omar and Hannan Sarkar

Individually, both Javed and Hannan have come off with the goods, but together, they had never been able to come up and build a successful opening partnership.

2. Our best ODI opener at one time was:

Bidyut and Opee

But that pair did not last long enough, for more than one year at least to make a strong impact or to be known famous. Still, whatever little time that they were together, in only 2 tournaments, Bangladesh had success in the 2nd tournament - the famous victory over Pakistan.

So I am sure that the time that Bangladesh will manage to get a perfect opening pair, who can not only individually perform once or twice (which has happened with a lot of the openers over the last few years), but also stay together and build a successful strong opening partnership, THAT DAY, Bangladesh will start to win.

I was hoping that the recent Hannan-Bidyut opening combination would be able to do it, but it was not to be.

Answers to some of your questions/points:

- The worst opener in ODIs is Rokon
- The best opener in Tests is Hannan, however, not many openers were tried in Test cricket and also not many times have past to try different opening combinations in Test cricket
- This is always difficult for an opener who comes from the batting paradise subcontinent wickets to come and to adapt to the conditions where there's bounce and grass on pitches, not to mention the fact the standard of pace bowling of the opposition that they face, especially with the new ball

reinausagi
February 25, 2004, 01:12 AM
It is rare that any test playing nation has two good openers who can click at the same time. Since I followed cricket in the late seventies successful opening tandems like Desmond Haynes and Gordon Greenich were rare. It was usually more like Gavaskar & ?, Glen Turner & ?, Mudasser Nazar & ?, Graham Gooch & ?, Keppler Wessels & ?, etc.

BD is fortunate to have so many decent openers. Finding a pair that can work well together is another story. Shahriar Hossain and Javed Omar would be my personal choice in tests. They both seems to have the application and patience to graft together an inning. But then, what does one do with someone like Hannar Sarkar who seems to have such great potential?

Rubu
February 25, 2004, 12:23 PM
u are right, there are very few real good opening pairs in history. but, see, most of the countries always had opners who are not great but did the work. that all we want. a pair that can build an opening innings without being out within 20 runs. for now, i'll happy if they can get 50+ runs, constantly.

crazyisland
February 25, 2004, 01:17 PM
Our opener's weakest link is playing the pacers. Pace with good bounce has always troubled them.
We need to fix the problem at the root. BCCB should make more bouncy pitch at national level so our players grow up playing bouncy balls.

As far as the current national openers are concerned - they need phychological boost. They need to start thinking that if we want to beat India or Australia our batsmen (Bashar, Sarkar, Ash or Alok) have to bat better than Tendulkar, Ponting, Martyn or Hayden.
I think to our openers these guys are super stars not opponents.

pagol-chagol
February 25, 2004, 01:47 PM
What do you think about Alok's potential as an opener? I don't think he has ever done it. But, he seems to have the brain,courage,self-discipline and technique for it. :info:

billah
February 25, 2004, 02:05 PM
At this point, I'm completely against Alok's playing, let alone opening. He needs to regroup & reconcile.

reverse_swing
February 25, 2004, 02:09 PM
Pilot may open tomorrow instead of Hannan!

pagol-chagol
February 25, 2004, 02:09 PM
I agree; for this test opening is out of the question. I meant Alok eventually opening.

[Edited on 25-2-2004 by pagol-chagol]

Rubu
February 25, 2004, 02:15 PM
the squad has already been decleared. since hannah sarkar is still in, we have no reason to think that pilot will open. and even for long run, can alok be an opener? i can't think so mainly because his type doesn't matches with openers (may be in one day). and i think we tried pilot for opening before, didn't work. let him do what he is doing. making our trail end the nightmare(!!!) for opponent bowlers.

AsifTheManRahman
February 25, 2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by crazyisland
Our opener's weakest link is playing the pacers. Pace with good bounce has always troubled them.
We need to fix the problem at the root. BCCB should make more bouncy pitch at national level so our players grow up playing bouncy balls.

As far as the current national openers are concerned - they need phychological boost. They need to start thinking that if we want to beat India or Australia our batsmen (Bashar, Sarkar, Ash or Alok) have to bat better than Tendulkar, Ponting, Martyn or Hayden.
I think to our openers these guys are super stars not opponents.


Well if thats the case, then they should not open the batting...or should not be named openers....
If they cannot play pace and yet call themselves openers, they are nothing but a bunch of jokers

SS
February 25, 2004, 04:51 PM
do u think they are players..indeed they are jokers who just go their and make ourselves laugh when they get out playing silliest shots

AsifTheManRahman
February 26, 2004, 01:56 AM
Hannan and Golla are my favourites...just need to click together