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Mridul
February 26, 2004, 07:26 PM
Are we gonna lose?..if we do...we will play against Australia in the semi-final.

Rubu
February 26, 2004, 07:31 PM
since they are in plate. it doesn't realy matter anymore whether they win or lose. they can't be plate champion anyway. leave that for aus. so, nothing to really worry about.

adnan
February 26, 2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Mridul
Are we gonna lose?..if we do...we will play against Australia in the semi-final.

.....if we do, we really should stop playing cricket for some few years to make sure that we will have enough time to learn some basics of cricket.

Piranha
February 26, 2004, 07:58 PM
Has this board becme even more pessimistic than ususal?

Optimist
February 26, 2004, 08:50 PM
I don't know about pessimism, But realism (reality) is that we will have to play really well to beat Ireland! But I think we are capable of doing that.

mirjahan
February 26, 2004, 10:52 PM
who can publish current score BD vs IRL

pavel
February 26, 2004, 11:37 PM
This is very silly reasoning. I wonder if australia will stop playing cricket and start learning the basics once their u-19 fails to win the plate championship. Being passionate supporter is one thing being unreasonable is totally differant.

Not to forget Australia is the WORLD CHAMPIAN!

I think we are being to hard onthe U-19 team.

Cheers,
pavs

billah
February 27, 2004, 12:13 AM
Right on, Pavs.

FaltuRidwanBhai
February 27, 2004, 12:18 AM
jaihok,
dhurbhaggo ar durbhaggo. jekhane shobai improve korche shekhane kintu amader chitrota shompurno bhinno. amader performance jeno dine dine neme jachhe. jaihok tobe ami mone kori je eta purotai manoshik. karon bangladesh dole oboshhoi bhalo peleyar royeche. nafis england ar shathe ja kheleche sheta kintu dekhar por apnara bolte parenna je tar skill nai. i think they are all under pressure. i think they need time for some rest. hopefully they will be able to perform much better in the future.

tensionEaachi
February 27, 2004, 01:36 AM
any update on today's score?

AGC
February 27, 2004, 01:46 AM
IRL 147 all out
BD 37/0

adnan
February 27, 2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by pavel
This is very silly reasoning. I wonder if australia will stop playing cricket and start learning the basics once their u-19 fails to win the plate championship.

Are we comparing Australia with BD only because they are playing in the Plate? Australia is here only because of NRR after losing only a single game. Not because they lost all there games. They had only one single bad day, otherwise they showed there strength.

BD is the only Test playing country in this competition who has failed to defeat any other test playing country. All others, including Nepal and Zimbabwe, beat at least one other Test playing country.

When we are afraid to win against Ireland, with 7 players in our squad having experienced with First class, 3 of them having a batting avg. of more than 40, 3 of them having played in Test, its a pity.

Look at the other teams please, except India and pakistan, they dont have many players who have any first class experience. SA has none, Australia has none (well, one player played a single match scoring 4), NZ has none.

With a team with experienced and proved players, no wins against any real team, whereas we even endeavor to win against canada or uganda, its not so easy to be optimistic.

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 02:41 AM
No matter how bad you try to potray the BD U-19 team, these are still not enough to justify "we really should stop playing cricket for some few years .." And how do you learn, wheather it is basic or not, if you don't play?

Yupe, that was poor reasoning.

Shafi
February 27, 2004, 02:58 AM
Bd u-19 90/1 after 18.0

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 02:59 AM
Shafi, thank you very much.

Shafi
February 27, 2004, 03:04 AM
It's been a pleasure :):fanflag:

Navarene
February 27, 2004, 03:26 AM
any new updates?

mss
February 27, 2004, 03:27 AM
Bangladesh vs Ireland
Ireland : 141/10

Bangladesh : 103/2, 23 overs

Pakistan vs England
England : 197/10, 50 overs

Pakistan : 45/3, 13 overs

Canada vs Uganda
Canada : 231/10, 50 overs

Uganda : 43/2, 11 overs

Zimbabwe vs New Zealand
Zimbabwe 65/1, 10 overs

source : www.bangladesherkhela.com

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 03:30 AM
mss, thank you very much.

mss
February 27, 2004, 03:38 AM
most wellcome chinaman.

tglover
February 27, 2004, 04:08 AM
BANGLADESH BEAT IRELAND!!!

WOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

BANGLADESH PLAY SCOTLAND IN THE SEMIS!

NAFIS IQBAL BACK IN FORM!! 97 NOT OUT!

Hasib
February 27, 2004, 04:09 AM
Bangladesh 143/2 we won allahr-rahmatha.

adnan
February 27, 2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by chinaman
No matter how bad you try to potray the BD U-19 team, these are still not enough to justify "we really should stop playing cricket for some few years .." And how do you learn, wheather it is basic or not, if you don't play?

Yupe, that was poor reasoning.

Dear Chinaman,

It took me a week you make you understand how to calculate NRR. Neither will I try to explain something to you again, nor I think I have that aptitude.

Hasib
February 27, 2004, 04:10 AM
Ireland : 141/10

Bangladesh : 143/2, 30 overs (Nafis 97*, Naeem 38, Ashiqur 34*)

Bangladesh won by 8 wkts

Pakistan vs England
England : 197/10, 50 overs

Pakistan : 85/4, 27 overs

Canada vs Uganda
Canada : 231/10, 50 overs

Uganda : 129/2, 28 overs

Zimbabwe vs New Zealand
Zimbabwe128/2, 26 overs

adnan
February 27, 2004, 04:11 AM
very well played Nafis! Very convincing win, thats what it should have been. Keep it up in Final.

[Edited on 2/27/2004 by adnan]

Hasib
February 27, 2004, 04:15 AM
This has already been stated in the other forum... chinaman... move this to it plz

btw... :fanflag::fanflag::fanflag:

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by adnan
Originally posted by chinaman
No matter how bad you try to potray the BD U-19 team, these are still not enough to justify "we really should stop playing cricket for some few years .." And how do you learn, wheather it is basic or not, if you don't play?

Yupe, that was poor reasoning.

Dear Chinaman,

It took me a week you make you understand how to calculate NRR. Neither will I try to explain something to you again, nor I think I have that aptitude.


Dear Adnan,

Not going to spoil a victorious moment replying your attitude. So I'll just give ONE MORE pass on you even though your U2U message still smelling afoul. Keep in mind I ein't any McInnes.

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 05:18 AM
Dear Adnan

This is a moderated forum, in case you didn't notice. Feel free to express your disagreement without personal attack. Personal attack or harassment are one of the last think we wanna see it here.

Feel free also to consider yourself Einstein if you so desire, but keep your growing temptation from making degrading comments to any of our members.

And, do not try to escalate or flame by replying to this message. This is an advice only, it's your's to keep or lose. Cheers.

muddaser
February 27, 2004, 06:21 AM
does anyone have the latest latest score between PAK v ENG.:)

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 06:39 AM
Pakistan vs England
England : 197/10, 50 overs
Pakistan : 191/10, 47.4 overs

England won by 6 runs

Source: Bangladesherkhela (http://www.bangladesherkhela.com)

chinaman
February 27, 2004, 06:45 AM
Bangladesh vs Ireland Scorecard (http://pluslive.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2003-04/OTHERS/U19-WC2004/SCORECARDS/PLATE-2/BDESH-U19_IRELAND-U19_U19-WC2004_YODI-PLT11_27FEB2004.html)

muddaser
February 27, 2004, 06:59 AM
so its a pakistan v india semi final.:)

Optimist
February 27, 2004, 08:10 AM
At last a very convincing performance! Well played Nafis! Bangladesh's batting seems to depend too much on Nafis's. Bowler's are really doing great. Congratulation to the coach.

Optimist
February 27, 2004, 08:18 AM
Pakistan has a good team. But as usual it will be a battle between Pakistani bowlers and Indian batsmen.

muddaser
February 27, 2004, 08:47 AM
to be honest this pakistan under 19 squad looks the strongest for a long time. still suprised shahid yousuf,umar gul and salman butt never played since they are eligible.

mansoor amjad and riaz afridi look like future stars.

Optimist
February 27, 2004, 10:40 AM
Pakistani batsmen seldom fights it out in the middle. Either they tear the opponents or they meekly give in. On the other hand Indian battters knows how to build an innings. Twice in the tournament they came back strongly after initial collapse. India is without Irfan Pathan, that probably gives the Pakistani team a better chance.

rafiq
February 27, 2004, 11:45 AM
that Shikari dude, Dhiwan, is enough to crush all bowling attacks in this tournament - he is the real find, although lots of good players around.

while nafees did well with the bat, we have 3 bowlers who will end up with 10 or more wickets - enamul in the lead - that has got to be promising

fwullah
February 27, 2004, 11:51 AM
Hey, BD radio said that there's no chance for an India-Pakistan final

Beamer
February 27, 2004, 12:10 PM
Now it looks like we will play Australia in the plate finals barring a disaster in the semi. We should treat that final as our championship and go all out. It will restore the confidence immensely. I still can't forget the match against New Zealand. It was easily within grasps and had we won, we will be competing in the super league now.

billah
February 27, 2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by rafiq
that Shikari dude, Dhiwan, is enough to crush all bowling attacks in this tournament - he is the real find, although lots of good players around.

while nafees did well with the bat, we have 3 bowlers who will end up with 10 or more wickets - enamul in the lead - that has got to be promising

Rafiq bhai: It is my personal opinion that Shikhar dhawan is grossly over-aged.

FaltuRidwanBhai
February 27, 2004, 12:37 PM
jaihok,
durbhaggo je amra host hoyeo 2nd round a khelte parlam na. eta kintu shob shomoy amader jonno akta boro rokomer afsos hoye thakbe. tobuo eta bhebe bhalo lagche je bangladesher torunra mone hoi abar form a fireche. gotokaler ireland ar khelai kintu hotash kori shai ager 2-3 match ar moton. khelay kintu chilo amader shompurno pradhanno. jaihok. akhon kintu amra mokabela korbo shokti shali australia ar birudhhe. asha korbo we will we able to see a good match from our young stars. ebong joi pele kintu ottanto bhalo hobe. tobe sheta kintu aktu uchhabhilashi chinta hobe. tobe jodi tara joi orjon korte pare tahole kintu aktu holeo amra shantona pete pari je amra atleast australiake harate pereche 2nd round a khelte na parleo. dannabad.

muddaser
February 27, 2004, 12:38 PM
agree with billah, that dhawan guy looks well over age.

FaltuRidwanBhai
February 27, 2004, 12:42 PM
are khali looks over age na bhai. ait akta shalar buirar buira. halay jatio dole chance pai nai tai here aikhane dhukaiyya dise. shalar chorer gushti.

pavel
February 28, 2004, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by adnan
Originally posted by pavel
This is very silly reasoning. I wonder if australia will stop playing cricket and start learning the basics once their u-19 fails to win the plate championship.

Are we comparing Australia with BD only because they are playing in the Plate? Australia is here only because of NRR after losing only a single game. Not because they lost all there games. They had only one single bad day, otherwise they showed there strength.

BD is the only Test playing country in this competition who has failed to defeat any other test playing country. All others, including Nepal and Zimbabwe, beat at least one other Test playing country.

When we are afraid to win against Ireland, with 7 players in our squad having experienced with First class, 3 of them having a batting avg. of more than 40, 3 of them having played in Test, its a pity.

Look at the other teams please, except India and pakistan, they dont have many players who have any first class experience. SA has none, Australia has none (well, one player played a single match scoring 4), NZ has none.

With a team with experienced and proved players, no wins against any real team, whereas we even endeavor to win against canada or uganda, its not so easy to be optimistic.

"It's not easy to be optimistic", you mean to say you were optimistic at all?
You argue that Australia had one bad day and got demoted to silver plate due to run rate; why is it hard to accept that BD had two bad day which resulted in it's demotion to silver plate?

You argue that several players in the team has played either first class cricket, or international cricket. So? What does it justify? Our players hardly win practice match with second-third graded national teams, so what makes them better if they played first class matches or test matches?

I think the most important question one should ask before starting such criticism is, "What is my expectation?"

If you expect bangladesh to win U-19 championship, this is absurd. If you expect them to take part in the semi-final than it is dubious. if you expect them to atleast stay in the cup championship it is still too high standard. What is very realistic is that they atleast win the plate championship, because this is as far as BD u-19 team can go, at this moment.

Also there is so many other factors to consider. This was perhaps the most unexpected cricket tournament ever. Bd team trashed nepal in the practice matches but later nepal showed much more maturity when it mattered.

So to jump into conclution that BD should stop playing international cricket and start learning basics is absurd and a bit silly. And it's not helping.

Cheers,
pavs