Our pace attack for the ODI series against WI

[shuziburo]

I personally feel that we should go with three pacers. Rubel is a no-brainer. Despite his recent struggles, I would like Shafiul in the team. The boy is a fighter and he uses his brain, even when struggling. If he continues to struggle, then we can think of alternatives. I think Nazmul deserves a chance and might do some damage, if given an opportunity. (I know Mash is out, but I added him for the sake of fairness. He wants to play again, although I have argued against it for the risk to his long-term health.)

[Tigers_eye]

3? at home? The bouncers our pacers come up with only gets to knee high for 6'2" - 6'-4" players.

Get Rasel and Rubel. Change of pace will be there in every over interchange.

[shuziburo]

3? at home? The bouncers our pacers come up with only gets to knee high for 6'2" - 6'-4" players.

Get Rasel and Rubel. Change of pace will be there in every over interchange.

Rasel has lost something. He gets spanked on ODI these days. If you want change of pace, you could do worse than Nazmul.

[Naimul_Hd]

Why did you include Mashrafee ? He is not in the squad. More importantly, he wont be able to play til first half of the next year.

Anyway, i picked Rubel & Nazmul.

For ODI, 2 pacers are enough. Shakib, Razzaq, Riyad, Naeem, Nasir can take care of rest of the overs. However, i would go for 3 pacers in the test series.

[shuziburo]

Did you actually vote? Rubel and Nazmul is still showing 0.

I included an explanation for Mash in the poll.
Why did you include Mashrafee ? He is not in the squad. More importantly, he wont be able to play til first half of the next year.

Anyway, i picked Rubel & Nazmul.

For ODI, 2 pacers are enough. Shakib, Razzaq, Riyad, Naeem, Nasir can take care of rest of the overs. However, i would go for 3 pacers in the test series.

[Naimul_Hd]

Did you actually vote? Rubel and Nazmul is still showing 0.

I included an explanation for Mash in the poll.

lol....sorry...i forgot to vote :facepalm:

I understand your reasoning behind Mash's inclusion but that was not necessary. The option looks too lengthy. I aint complaining, just giving my opinion. Thanks for ensuring that my vote is being casted properly :)

[Murad]

Rubel, Nazmul & Rasel as pacers

Shakib and Razzak as main spinners

Riyad, Nasir and Ash are part-time spinners.

Shafiul can rest his dhila mind in the pavilion.

We need 3 pacers against WI. They are weak against slow medium pacers.

[lamisa]

rubel(recent form) shafiul(fighter) and nazmul( stepson)

[shuziburo]

lol....sorry...i forgot to vote :facepalm:

I understand your reasoning behind Mash's inclusion but that was not necessary. The option looks too lengthy. I aint complaining, just giving my opinion. Thanks for ensuring that my vote is being casted properly :)

To tell you the truth, Rubel and Nazmul is my second preference for the upcoming series. We need to find out whether he can cut it at the international level. Ian Pont was very high on him.

About poll, I wanted to give people as many options as possible. Yes, the number is a "tad" high.

[AMD128]

Rubel,Nazmul & Syed Rasel/Farhad Reza. Shafiul is not being pretty much impressive from the Zim tour. His spells are kinda expensive even at the BCB Cup. But I think Shafiul might be picked hope he can make a come back.

[22Yards]

shafiul uses his brain more than others. Only problem is he uses it not very often. I am going to go with Rubel and Nazmul for ODIs and depending on the pitch and how the selection process pan out, should shafiul get the nod.

Nazmul and Shafiul should alternate in ODis. Shafiul might be the one more lethal amongst the two but nazmul can be pretty nagging with line and length, gives away nothing. Nazmul is just being a victim of ignorance, nothing else.

For test, its shahadat and rubel. And again shafiul should only be picked if there is a need for a third seamer or if one of the two gets injured or hits a bad patch of form.

[AhmedN]

shafiul uses his brain more than others. Only problem is he uses it not very often. I am going to go with Rubel and Nazmul for ODIs and depending on the pitch and how the selection process pan out, should shafiul get the nod.

Nazmul and Shafiul should alternate in ODis. Shafiul might be the one more lethal amongst the two but nazmul can be pretty nagging with line and length, gives away nothing. Nazmul is just being a victim of ignorance, nothing else.

For test, its shahadat and rubel. And again shafiul should only be picked if there is a need for a third seamer or if one of the two gets injured or hits a bad patch of form.

well said, agree..

[Tigers_eye]

Dust bowl with no pacers. We should able to see how many paddy make how many rice.

[Rabz]

I have voted for Rubel/Shafiul cuz thats what it is going to be.
But Rubel/Nazmul is not a bad option either.

[AMD128]

Better try out Rasel or Farhad Reza in place of Shafiul. NAZMUL & RUBEL is a MUST.

[BANFAN]

3 would be ok, for Tests and n ODI we can only take 3 pacers, if we had a quality pace bowling allrounder. Naseer isn't there yet.

[shuziburo]

rubel(recent form) shafiul(fighter) and nazmul( stepson)

Stepson? Huh!

[lamisa]

^^ he sure is treated like one!

[shuziburo]

^^ he sure is treated like one!

Hmmm...[বাংলা]এইবার বুঝলুম। বুদ্ধিতে একটু খাটো তো![/বাংলা]

[shuziburo]

At this time, our current attack has only 5.88% (1) vote.

[Tiger444]

I would go with 4 pacers Nazmul, Shafiul, Rubel, and Rasel. Don't really see the need to take Razzak in the team. I know WI struggle against spin but he's just not been good at all. We should take 2 SLA's. One is obviously Shakib and the second one is Sunny. Nazmul and Rasel could do very well on our pitches with their line and length. Rubel and Shafiul have the role of taking wickets.

[shuziburo]

I would go with 4 pacers Nazmul, Shafiul, Rubel, and Rasel. Don't really see the need to take Razzak in the team. I know WI struggle against spin but he's just not been good at all. We should take 2 SLA's. One is obviously Shakib and the second one is Sunny. Nazmul and Rasel could do very well on our pitches with their line and length. Rubel and Shafiul have the role of taking wickets.

I don't know about Rasel; he has not been good lately. Plus, 4 pacers might not be appropriate for the WI team. They are good against pace. Agree about Razzak.

[Tiger444]

I don't know about Rasel; he has not been good lately. Plus, 4 pacers might not be appropriate for the WI team. They are good against pace. Agree about Razzak.

Rasel for some reason just got 2 games. In the games he played though, his economy rate was a 4. Compared to others where they had a economy rate of above a 5 some touching 6. Also there are plenty of spin options available. We have Shakib, Riyad, Naeem and in my opinion Sunny should be there. So that's 4 spinners. So I believe taking 4 pacers would be necessary. Especially when Shafiul has been so inconsistent.

[shuziburo]

Rasel for some reason just got 2 games. In the games he played though, his economy rate was a 4. Compared to others where they had a economy rate of above a 5 some touching 6. Also there are plenty of spin options available. We have Shakib, Riyad, Naeem and in my opinion Sunny should be there. So that's 4 spinners. So I believe taking 4 pacers would be necessary. Especially when Shafiul has been so inconsistent.

If we have access to 4 spinners, then 3 pacers should be more than enough. If Shafiul is expensive in a given match, there will still be 4 spinners and 2 other pacers to distribute the 50 overs. Until/unless Rasel regains the form that made him an economical ODI bowler, I don't think he should be in the team.

Just my opinion.

[Tiger444]

If we have access to 4 spinners, then 3 pacers should be more than enough. If Shafiul is expensive in a given match, there will still be 4 spinners and 2 other pacers to distribute the 50 overs. Until/unless Rasel regains the form that made him an economical ODI bowler, I don't think he should be in the team.

Just my opinion.

I get what you're saying bro. And I know Razzak will be in the team and Rasel will not but I just feel that since we still lack economical bowlers, we could have tried him out. I just think that playing 3 pacers in a match is perfect and then have 1 back up pacer. The way we're just playing 2 pacers, it's not enough people running in but I think the team management will end up going with Nazmul, Shafiul and Rubel as the pacers and then Razzak, Shakib, and Sunny or Shuvo as the SLA's and Riyad, Naeem, and Nasir as the OB's. It wouldn't be a bad idea to send Rasel down to the WI with the A team and see how he does there.

[22Yards]

Selectors are less concerned with the economy column than the Wickets column(in ODIs). In ODI's you can afford to play one bowler who is economical and may be not as attacking as one would like. It pays off.

With the inclusion of so many allrounders/partimers/offspinners I think another SLA in the likes of Razzak is going overboard unless he is REALLY performing well. One Shakib Al Hasan will do, the rest of spin can be handled by the part timers. Nazmul Should definitely be included now more than ever because of the saturated spin department we got in the team. He is no more mutually exclusive to Shafiul (or Rubel). He can take the place of Razzak easily and should. His only competitor then becomes Rasel. It would only bring good to the team that we will see a power struggle to get in the team between the medium pacers who thought discarded after repeated ignorance.

I think we are slowly moving away from the era when we simply did not have replacement players (a good A team). Now although I would not say the A team we have is extraordinary but it atleast comes very close to be the same calibre of the national team. The recent BCD Green VS Red is a shining example.

[shuziburo]

I get what you're saying bro. And I know Razzak will be in the team and Rasel will not but I just feel that since we still lack economical bowlers, we could have tried him out. I just think that playing 3 pacers in a match is perfect and then have 1 back up pacer. The way we're just playing 2 pacers, it's not enough people running in but I think the team management will end up going with Nazmul, Shafiul and Rubel as the pacers and then Razzak, Shakib, and Sunny or Shuvo as the SLA's and Riyad, Naeem, and Nasir as the OB's. It wouldn't be a bad idea to send Rasel down to the WI with the A team and see how he does there.

I think it is a very good idea to send Rasel with the A team. He was so economical in the ODI and then as if a switch was turned off, he started leaking runs like a sieve. If he can be fixed, he can be valuable ODI asset.

[Tiger444]

I think it is a very good idea to send Rasel with the A team. He was so economical in the ODI and then as if a switch was turned off, he started leaking runs like a sieve. If he can be fixed, he can be valuable ODI asset.

Injuries affected him big time. He hasn't been the same since. Hopefully with some more practice against the WI A team can get his form back. I believe he's still a must since our pace department is still lacking.

[TIKBoss]

If our spinners other than Shakib were any good then I would say 1 pacer and 3 spinner but even then I would say get 3 spinner and 1 pacer since WI is weaker against spin not to mention Shafiul giving away 80 runs in 10 overs.

[Banglaguy]

Forget Shafiul, Nasir can just bowl seam up. Razzak, Riyad, Nasir, Hom, Shakiib, Rubel, Nazmul= Deadly.

[AMD128]

Shafiul barely could swung the ball against Zim in Test. Robiul infact was swinging it better than him. Btw, Shahadat might be in the ODI's too.

[shuziburo]

Shafiul barely could swung the ball against Zim in Test. Robiul infact was swinging it better than him. Btw, Shahadat might be in the ODI's too.

Shahadat is not good in ODI. He is good for tests only.

[shuziburo]

If our spinners other than Shakib were any good then I would say 1 pacer and 3 spinner but even then I would say get 3 spinner and 1 pacer since WI is weaker against spin not to mention Shafiul giving away 80 runs in 10 overs.

Shafiul probably would not allow 80, but he has not been in form since the ZIM trip. He could be dropped for now, if we want to go with 2 pacers. But, being the heady player he is, I think he will be back in the team soon.

1 pacer? No winning team uses 1 pacer. Even a team like India uses 3, although only Zaheer Khan is their only international-class pacer. My preference will be to go with 3 pacers, plus Shakib, Riyad, and Naeem.

[shuziburo]

Injuries affected him big time. He hasn't been the same since. Hopefully with some more practice against the WI A team can get his form back. I believe he's still a must since our pace department is still lacking.

Only if he regains his form. Otherwise, he will be a waste.

[Tiger444]

Only if he regains his form. Otherwise, he will be a waste.

Yes and that's the way it should be for not only Rasel but all our players. Rasel does have some tough competition from Farhad Reza. We'll see how both do in the A team.

[TIKBoss]

Shafiul probably would not allow 80, but he has not been in form since the ZIM trip. He could be dropped for now, if we want to go with 2 pacers. But, being the heady player he is, I think he will be back in the team soon.

1 pacer? No winning team uses 1 pacer. Even a team like India uses 3, although only Zaheer Khan is their only international-class pacer. My preference will be to go with 3 pacers, plus Shakib, Riyad, and Naeem.

India used to have the batting to post huge scores so they could most of the time afford useless pacers but we can't. Shafiul has one of the highest economy in history of cricket, he needs to go get help and improve and then he can come back.

[lamisa]

^^^ he also has a nag for picking up wickets and wining us games at crucial times

[Banglaguy]

^^^ he also has a nag for picking up wickets and wining us games at crucial times

Agreed, look at Brett Lee, he's a strike bowler who goes for plenty, and Inshallah Mr. Shafiul can become as good if not better.

[shuziburo]

^^^ he also has a nag for picking up wickets and wining us games at crucial times

Somehow he almost always bowls well during death overs, even if he is spanked in the opening overs. If he is properly nurtured, he can become a dangerous bowler.

[shakibrulz]

Rasel is pravin kumar without accuracy. I'd pick Shafi, Rubel, Nazmul trio, Nasir and IceMan as SLAs, Riyad as offspinner, Kapali too perhaps can roll his arm over.

Nazmul should be pretty good at death.
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[shakibrulz]

And dropping Shafiul? You gotta be kidding. He's the only one who can swing the ball and save you in crunch situations. Great outfielder too.
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[shuziburo]

And dropping Shafiul? You gotta be kidding. He's the only one who can swing the ball and save you in crunch situations. Great outfielder too.
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My pace choice for the upcoming series is Rubel, Shafiul, and Nazmul. I want Shafiul in the team.

[Avik]

Nazmul, because he has been in the helm forever. performance in BCB cup gets priority.

Rubel has already cemented his place.

Shahadat for the tests, for his potential.

Shafiul for the ODIs/tests if we are playing 3 pacers.

[shuziburo]

Nazmul, because he has been in the helm forever. performance in BCB cup gets priority.

Rubel has already cemented his place.

Shahadat for the tests, for his potential.

Shafiul for the ODIs/tests if we are playing 3 pacers.

In tests, Shahadat and Rubel should be in the team. Shafiul is a wicket-taker in ODI, but not as much in tests. Hopefully, he will become one in time.