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Saifulsohel
November 1, 2011, 11:11 AM
Who should get chance in national team?
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Fazal
November 1, 2011, 11:49 AM
Who is our best player outside recent national team?

Based on popularity it have to be Md. Ashraful.

Jadukor
November 1, 2011, 11:53 AM
I would like Nazmul Hossain to be given an extended run. He couldn't do much worse than Shahadat.

Dhakablues
November 1, 2011, 12:38 PM
I would like Nazmul Hossain to be given an extended run. He couldn't do much worse than Shahadat.

My only regret is, he is NEVER tried consistently and we would never know how good of a bowler he is. Is Shafiul really better than him? does Shafiul's stat prove that he is better than Nazmul or Rasel or Forhad Reza? We wouldnt know... For Nazmul, he is the most under-rated player we have ever had in modern day Bangladesh cricket!!

Tigers_eye
November 1, 2011, 12:43 PM
Getting in the national team not playing, is the same thing.

Hom. It is time to test him for an extended period of time. #3 and #4 is wide open. What better opportunity would you get for testing new players at home condition? Bring him in for Pak series.

Several under 19 players from recent past can make a case for the top order position. We need a swing bowler as well.

When Riyad comes back Nasir/Naeem has to make space. I wish I could swap with Raqibul though.

I do miss Junaid for his slip fielding. SN dropped one off Shakib. That was early in the innings. Slip fielders don't grow on trees. It is a specialized position. A drop there kicks right in the nut of the team. A catch makes the difference.

nadim 98
November 1, 2011, 02:04 PM
Getting in the national team not playing, is the same thing.

Hom. It is time to test him for an extended period of time. #3 and #4 is wide open. What better opportunity would you get for testing new players at home condition? Bring him in for Pak series.

Several under 19 players from recent past can make a case for the top order position. We need a swing bowler as well.

When Riyad comes back Nasir/Naeem has to make space. I wish I could swap with Raqibul though.

I do miss Junaid for his slip fielding. SN dropped one off Shakib. That was early in the innings. Slip fielders don't grow on trees. It is a specialized position. A drop there kicks right in the nut of the team. A catch makes the difference.

Why do we have to drop either of Nasir or Nayeem??? Why don't we give the number 4 spot to Nayeem instead of deadwoods rok/ash and other?? That is his usual position in domestic cricket.


For 2/3, we have to relie on SN/JS/JI, unless we have a surprise against pak series:)

al Furqaan
November 1, 2011, 02:30 PM
Getting in the national team not playing, is the same thing.

Hom. It is time to test him for an extended period of time. #3 and #4 is wide open. What better opportunity would you get for testing new players at home condition? Bring him in for Pak series.

Several under 19 players from recent past can make a case for the top order position. We need a swing bowler as well.

When Riyad comes back Nasir/Naeem has to make space. I wish I could swap with Raqibul though.

I do miss Junaid for his slip fielding. SN dropped one off Shakib. That was early in the innings. Slip fielders don't grow on trees. It is a specialized position. A drop there kicks right in the nut of the team. A catch makes the difference.

why drop nasir and naeem? they're both performing with bat and Nasir with ball. play all of riyad, nasir, and naeem. IMO, riyad needs ot prove his worth to teh side coming back after injury.

Home for Rock...still waiting for Imrul's and SN's replacement.

ma_o_mati
November 1, 2011, 02:39 PM
raqibul is a proven failure...

mali007
November 1, 2011, 03:17 PM
I think Junaed is the best player outside the team now. Drop SN and Rokibul.

Banglaguy
November 1, 2011, 03:42 PM
Kamrul Islam Rabbi?

HereWeGo
November 1, 2011, 03:44 PM
Ashraful for Test!!
He did show a lot of grit and determination the last time he played test cricket...

I would really like to test Anamul the WK now (but purely as a batsmen)....

I can bet he would atleast do better in tests than imrul and rokibul....
And SN looks always ready to edge (although Imrul edges it more)...

deshimon
November 1, 2011, 03:53 PM
We don't have any quality pacer outside national team. If Mashrafi becomes fit before Pakistan series it will be a good news for us. Imrul got lot of chance to prove himself but failed. So we can try with a new comer at this position. For number #3 Johurul Islam omi can be tried. We are lack of a pace all rounder in One Day team, Forhad reza would be a good choice for this position.

Banglaguy
November 1, 2011, 04:04 PM
We don't have any quality pacer outside national team. If Mashrafi becomes fit before Pakistan series it will be a good news for us. Imrul got lot of chance to prove himself but failed. So we can try with a new comer at this position. For number #3 Johurul Islam omi can be tried. We are lack of a pace all rounder in One Day team, Forhad reza would be a good choice for this position.

He won't bro, I heard Shamim saying that he's targeting the Asia cup as a return point.

Zeeshan
November 1, 2011, 06:49 PM
^Shamim says a lot of things.

On topic: Slightly off topic, but we badly need to weed out the deadwoods Ash, Aftab, Alok, Rock, Kayes (in Test), Rajib, Razzak.....

How many can you name more in 60s? :up:

Dilscoop
November 1, 2011, 07:00 PM
Can anyone tell me about this kid named Matin or something? Apparently he is suppose to be some big thing.

Rifat
November 1, 2011, 10:23 PM
Anamul Haque

Tigers_eye
November 1, 2011, 10:33 PM
...

I would really like to test Anamul the WK now (but purely as a batsmen)....
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I like this idea. Anyone even Jaharul would put a fire under Mushi's belly.

Night_wolf
November 2, 2011, 12:39 AM
who else then sir

nadim 98
November 2, 2011, 12:41 AM
Can anyone tell me about this kid named Matin or something? Apparently he is suppose to be some big thing.

huh, Matin who??????:confused:

Rifat H
November 2, 2011, 01:13 AM
Can anyone tell me why Mithun ali and sagir hossain get chance in the A team continuously for the last 2-3 years? I had never heard them playing any big innings in last 2 years for the A team. yet the selectors giving them chances while there is many talented wicketkeeper batsmen in the domestic level

nadim 98
November 2, 2011, 01:44 AM
Politics for sure:sick:Can anyone tell me why Mithun ali and sagir hossain get chance in the A team continuously for the last 2-3 years? I had never heard them playing any big innings in last 2 years for the A team. yet the selectors giving them chances while there is many talented wicketkeeper batsmen in the domestic level
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deshimon
November 2, 2011, 01:50 AM
Anamul or Dhiman as wicket keeper but Dhiman can't play a big innings current NCL.

shakibrulz
November 2, 2011, 01:54 AM
Anamul Haque
Asif Ahmed
Nazmul Hossain (not so sure, deserves a shot)
Nazimuddin (again, not so sure, but sure worth a shot instead of Nafees/Kayes)

Doosra
November 2, 2011, 08:59 AM
Anamul Haque for test

deshimon
November 13, 2011, 07:41 AM
Fohad Reza should be selected for ODIs & T20 as third pacer.

Hawk-Eye
November 13, 2011, 10:41 AM
I would like Nazmul Hossain to be given an extended run. He couldn't do much worse than Shahadat.

Agreed. He should get more chance like the others. Nazmul is the most under-rated player for BD.

simon
November 13, 2011, 10:58 AM
Nadim_98 ..

al-Sagar
November 14, 2011, 12:47 AM
probably its me

munshi33
November 14, 2011, 01:29 AM
:up::up::up::up::up::up::flag::flag::flag:My only regret is, he is NEVER tried consistently and we would never know how good of a bowler he is. Is Shafiul really better than him? does Shafiul's stat prove that he is better than Nazmul or Rasel or Forhad Reza? We wouldnt know... For Nazmul, he is the most under-rated player we have ever had in modern day Bangladesh cricket!!

lamisa
November 14, 2011, 09:38 AM
nazmul the stepson

deshimon
November 14, 2011, 10:35 AM
Anamul continue his good performance in NCL. So he is one of the best player, IMO, outside the team.

mufi_02
November 14, 2011, 10:47 AM
Shamim Hossain Chowdhury

al Furqaan
November 14, 2011, 03:46 PM
Anamul Haque
Asif Ahmed
Nazmul Hossain (not so sure, deserves a shot)
Nazimuddin (again, not so sure, but sure worth a shot instead of Nafees/Kayes)

i'm willing to give my fellow Sylheti, Nazmul a go in Tests...I think he should start in ODIs, he's been a very improved player from circa 2005. But I still don't think he has what it takes to make a test bowler. But he deserves a shot.

But I assure you, Nazimuddin will make Nafees and Kayes look like world beaters. Nazimuddin, is garbage of the worst quality. He, along with the likes of Faisal Hossain are nothing but domestic bullies who have less than zero credentials for int'l cricket. If you thought Raqibul Hasan was awful...

TheWatcher
November 14, 2011, 04:07 PM
I think Freza put his hands up for the title yesterday. Or may be it's his Rajshahi teammate and namesake Farhad Hossain.

deshimon
November 14, 2011, 04:16 PM
Nazmul should be selected for T20 and ODI. If he can do so impressive in these format, he can be given a chance for Test. But IMO he is only effective for shorter version.

Nazimuddin is a player like Tushar Imran, Faisal Hossain etc. who can boost only in domestic.

We can try some one new roockie like Anamul or Asif Ahmed as a top order.

shuziburo
November 15, 2011, 08:48 PM
Can anyone tell me about this kid named Matin or something? Apparently he is suppose to be some big thing.

So you have heard about him? He is the biggest thing since sliced bread!

shuziburo
November 15, 2011, 08:50 PM
Simon!!!!!

shakibrulz
November 16, 2011, 12:55 AM
But I assure you, Nazimuddin will make Nafees and Kayes look like world beaters. Nazimuddin, is garbage of the worst quality. He, along with the likes of Faisal Hossain are nothing but domestic bullies who have less than zero credentials for int'l cricket. If you thought Raqibul Hasan was awful...
Well haven't seen enough of him, so I won't say much. However, if he has an average of ~40, from about 70+ matches, he should be given a shot in tests before being discarded surely? I mean he might be crap and all that, but what harm is it gonna do if he's given one entire test series before not selecting him?

Also didn't he score some 80+ in T20 vs Paksitan?

al Furqaan
November 16, 2011, 01:15 AM
Well haven't seen enough of him, so I won't say much. However, if he has an average of ~40, from about 70+ matches, he should be given a shot in tests before being discarded surely? I mean he might be crap and all that, but what harm is it gonna do if he's given one entire test series before not selecting him?

Also didn't he score some 80+ in T20 vs Paksitan?

Junaid also scored 70+ in his first t20 outing. doesn't say anything. for some people 50+ domestic averages don't translate. on the flip side, a fellow with 35 average might indeed be ready. unless we see them we can't tell for sure.

there is no guarantee Anamul or Asif or Mominul will succeed...but Anamul/Asif performances lead one to give them a chance. Faisal, Nazimuddin have been tried, albeit limited chances, and they don't seem to have the technique for the top level.

shakibrulz
November 16, 2011, 01:53 AM
Junaid also scored 70+ in his first t20 outing. doesn't say anything. for some people 50+ domestic averages don't translate. on the flip side, a fellow with 35 average might indeed be ready. unless we see them we can't tell for sure.
I'm not saying that it necesssarily means anything. However Junaid got his chance in tests, and Nazimuddin deserves to. Perhaps you're right, he's just a domestic bully,that does in no way imply that he doesn't deserve the chance.

there is no guarantee Anamul or Asif or Mominul will succeed...but Anamul/Asif performances lead one to give them a chance. Faisal, Nazimuddin have been tried, albeit limited chances, and they don't seem to have the technique for the top level.
As for "trying" Faisal Hossain, no, 1 test is not enough chances. They deserve do deserve a full series. That's how it works, no matter how pathetic the player is.

Saifulsohel
November 19, 2011, 09:04 AM
Anamul & Mominul.
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Tiger444
November 19, 2011, 09:44 AM
I'm not saying that it necesssarily means anything. However Junaid got his chance in tests, and Nazimuddin deserves to. Perhaps you're right, he's just a domestic bully,that does in no way imply that he doesn't deserve the chance.

As for "trying" Faisal Hossain, no, 1 test is not enough chances. They deserve do deserve a full series. That's how it works, no matter how pathetic the player is.

I've watched Faisal bat in A team matches as well and I can assure you that this guy will not survive in international cricket. His footwork is absolutely atrocious. I know our other players are bad as well in this regard but he's just awful. His hand eye coordination is nothing to write home about as well. So that combination would not be pretty to watch in international cricket.

As for Nazimuddin, I had high hopes for this guy but he proves to be way too inconsistent. And also his footwork is really bad as well. To top it off he's got a pretty bad temperament.

True our batting department is weak but these 2 are just not the answers. I suggest bringing up guys like Mominul and Anamul who have the ability to succeed at this level.

Gowza
November 19, 2011, 10:05 AM
as far as batsmen go it would be anamul, mominul, asif and farhad.

dhiman is the best gloveman in the country....

as far as bowlers go probably subashis and nazmul for pacers and maybe shaker, noor and mahmudul for spinners.....

reza for the pacer allrounder

and for spin allrounders i reckon the best are all around the team i mean there are some with potential e.g. shabbir but really they'er not consistent enough to be near the team.

Equinox
November 19, 2011, 10:07 AM
^Shohag Gazi is the best spinner outside of the national team right now. Shaker and Noor are too young and inconsistent at the moment.

shakibrulz
November 19, 2011, 11:25 AM
Didn't he also score a quickfire ton recently?

Saifulsohel
November 19, 2011, 12:39 PM
Didn't he also score a quickfire ton recently?

ya,140.
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lamisa
November 19, 2011, 12:43 PM
***HM Ershad***

deshimon
November 19, 2011, 01:43 PM
I wouldn't like to suggest lot of new comers in national team at a time rather than do experiment one by one. If one can do better, we can use another.

Since Farhad Reza played in the national team before, he wont be considered as a new commer.

In this moment Anamul looks so consitent than others so we can do experiment with him. This seems to deserve to get a chance in national team.

Equinox
November 19, 2011, 01:45 PM
I wounldn't mind trying out some new players in the T20 v Pakistan. But knowing the selectors get ready for more Imrul, Riyad and Naeem in T20s.

Gowza
November 19, 2011, 11:17 PM
of course we dont want a lot of new comers, the basic set up of the team is pretty decent atm, we have a good core of players who perform reasonable consistently. the ones i'd want to test the most would be anamul for a batsman and subashis for a bowler. i think our spin unit is pretty good as it is, no need to try anyone new. the keeper spot only opens up if they want to take the gloves off mushy. main problem area's imo are the top order and the pacers.

deshimon
November 20, 2011, 04:19 PM
Anamul will be the excellent solution here. He is a top order batsman and wicket keeper as well. So I'mready to see him in the team in Pakistan series.

Gowza
November 20, 2011, 06:37 PM
i don't want to see anamul batting top order and keeping tbh, does anyone else feel this way?

al Furqaan
November 20, 2011, 06:58 PM
i don't want to see anamul batting top order and keeping tbh, does anyone else feel this way?

I don't want anyone to keep and bat up the order in Tests. Also Anamul isn't even keeping for Khulna, not sure if its because they want him to bat up the order or not, but he probably won't be much better than Mushy. We might have to get Dhiman if we want a decent keeper-bat.

shuziburo
November 20, 2011, 07:48 PM
Nazmul the stepson. By a mile!

Jadukor
November 21, 2011, 01:00 PM
I wounldn't mind trying out some new players in the T20 v Pakistan. But knowing the selectors get ready for more Imrul, Riyad and Naeem in T20s.

Yeah I expect more test batting in t-20 from these guys. This would be my t-20 batting
Tamim
Nafees
Mominul
Mushy
Shakib
Nasir
Kapali
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nadim 98
November 21, 2011, 04:29 PM
Give a bloody chance to Nazmul Hossain Milon for t20 u brainless bcb idiots. would like to see Anamul, Hom and Shabbir for T 20 too. Enough of Kayes, Riyad, Rok and Nayeem in t 20 XI.
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abu2abu
November 22, 2011, 07:05 AM
Right now, Farhad Reza. And we need medium pace allrounder in the side too, so I think he's in prime position.

It's too early for Kamrul Islam Rabbi and I doubt Dhiman Ghosh will play for BD again. There are too many usurpers ready to take on the gloves (Jahurul, Mithun Ali, Sahaghir and Anamul Haque but to name a few).

Enamul has done well for Sylhet recently, but I doubt those performances will count for much especially with the rise of Sunny. It would be nice to see him back in the set-up though. And Deccans (thorugh sheer weight of runs in the NCL over the last few years) should also be in the frame (for tests) if there was any justice in the world. But the selectors continue to ignore both...

Zunaid
November 22, 2011, 08:25 AM
Deccans (Deecans/Dickens) is an NCL bully. Remember the last time he made it to the nationals after a phenomenal run (pun intended) in the domestics.
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abu2abu
November 22, 2011, 10:18 AM
Deccans (Deecans/Dickens) is an NCL bully. Remember the last time he made it to the nationals after a phenomenal run (pun intended) in the domestics.
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That may be the case, but I don't think he's played enough test matches for anyone to be able to make that conclusion (1 test match and 6 ODIs to date if Cricinfo's stats are right). Even Nazimuddin (7 ODIs) has played more international cricket!

I remember when he was last selected for BD against England in 2010. In additon to being selected for the wrong format (Deccans an ODI player, really? Surely the longer version is more appropriate?!) he inexplicably batted at no. 8! Most of the English commentators assumed he was a bowler!

When the first choice players are having a lean patch (as Kayes, Junaid and rok are now and as Ash has been for the last 4 years) I think it's worth giving some of the domestic performers a chance.

Deccans (and to a lesser extent Rajin Saleh) have at various times in the last year or two done enough to warrant a recall. But neither man has been given a go (except Deccans in a couple of ODIs, mainly bowling as mentioned earlier).