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Ian Pont
December 30, 2011, 03:26 AM
I am looking for a terrific, young top order batsman to take up an overseas contract in England with an amateur club in Essex.

If you guys know or have any ideas about who this could be, would you post it here?

I am looking for them to arrive in April and stay until September. I can arrange for flights, accommodation, a car and payment.

Please advise....... but they need to be GOOD

samlove0
December 30, 2011, 04:26 AM
jahrul islam...
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nadim 98
December 30, 2011, 04:47 AM
Shuvogoto Hom or Shabbir Rahman
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Naimul_Hd
December 30, 2011, 05:22 AM
As its Amateur Club in Essex, my pick will be young promising players who are still at their early 20s. Here is my suggestions with their FC performance:

1. Anamul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/380354.html) (Bijoy) : Wicketkeeper cum opening batsman (Match- 17, HS- 133, Avg- 37.34)

2. Sabbir Rahman (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/373538.html): No.3 batsman (Match- 19, HS-100*, Avg- 31.51)

3. Tasamul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/400583.html): plays at #3,4 (Match-14, HS- 125, Avg- 30.08)

4. Shamsur Rahman (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56154.html): Opening batsman, he was also in 23 men squad for WC 11 (Match- 52, HS- 134, Avg: 32.71)

5. Nasiruddin Faruque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56057.html): Opening batsman, Bangladesh A (Match- 55, HS- 141, Avg- 31.33)

6. Asif Ahmed (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/400585.html): Top order batsman (usually plays #3) (Match- 15, HS- 152, Avg- 43.11)

All above mentioned players are very promising and talented. I wont be surprised if few of them make it to the national team within 2-3 years time.

Hope it helps :)

Edit: Asif Ahmed added

Night_wolf
December 30, 2011, 05:31 AM
Just take M. Ashraful and keep him..dont have to return him in september

WarWolf
December 30, 2011, 05:35 AM
Some good players are already suggested in this thread. My best three players upcoming batsmen will be

1. Asif Ahmed (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/400585.html)
2. Anamul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/380354.html)
3. Mominul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/373696.html)

Let's see who they are....

Asif is 19 years 13 days old as of today. He is the most consistent of the three and plays at no 3 or no 4. He has played 15 FC matches averaging 43.11. He has 3 hundreds and 5 fifties to his name. He has been under radar for last 2/3 years and so far he seems to follow the right path.

Anamul is 19 runs 14 days old as of today. He has huge potential to partner Tamim in the opening slot in next 2/3 years. He has played 17 FC matches averaging 37.34 and has 4 hundreds and 4 fifties to his name.

Mominul is 20 years 92 days old as of today. He is another good potential but a bit inconsistent. He has scored 1 hundred and 4 fifties in the 14 FC matches he played so far.

Naimul_Hd
December 30, 2011, 05:43 AM
Some good players are already suggested in this thread. I want to add the name of Asif Ahmed to this list. He has been my pick of the young prospects along with Anamul. :)

I was going to write his name at the top and somehow i missed his name completely. How forgetful i am. Thanks Sadi bhai for mentioning his name. :)

WarWolf
December 30, 2011, 05:49 AM
I was going to write his name at the top and somehow i missed his name completely. How forgetful i am. Thanks Sadi bhai for mentioning his name. :)
Wecome Naimul. How have you been? :)

Naimul_Hd
December 30, 2011, 06:00 AM
Wecome Naimul. How have you been? :)

I am good Sadi bhai, been busy last few weeks. Life is getting harder and harder :) Hope everything is fine at your end :) Happy New Year :)

Sorry for off topic :saint:

simon
December 30, 2011, 07:29 AM
Just take M. Ashraful and keep him..dont have to return him in september

lol,nekre mia! ditto:up:

Tiger444
December 30, 2011, 09:09 AM
I believe it's best if you take either Asif Ahmed or Anamul Haque, coach Ian. Both are supposed to be star players for us in the future and have performed really well in domestics as of late.
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roman
December 30, 2011, 09:14 AM
I say Asif, Amanul. But we would highly appreciate if you could take a young pacer and nurture him.

Thank you for your effort Mr. Ian

MSM B2C
December 30, 2011, 09:26 AM
I am looking for a terrific, young top order batsman to take up an overseas contract in England with an amateur club in Essex.

If you guys know or have any ideas about who this could be, would you post it here?

I am looking for them to arrive in April and stay until September. I can arrange for flights, accommodation, a car and payment.

Please advise....... but they need to be GOOD

Ian may I ask, What do you mean by amateur Club in Essex? Do you mean clubs that are lower in terms of domestic clubs. I assume it is clubs like for normal people not professionally cricketers who play in well recoginsed domestic clubs like the county?. If the clubs are lower than the standard of bangladesh domestic clubs, I wish you do not take any of the players. If you so wish and insist, I would recommend you take players that are not seen to be on the verge of coming to our national team. The reason being is I dont want to see them play for clubs that are not for them, If they go there and starts to make huge runs, we will be excited and forget that its for amateurs and your reputation will increase faster than ever. I want them to play in well recognised clubs even if it means domestic team in bangladesh.

thank you.

Tiger Manc
December 30, 2011, 09:32 AM
Top order I would say:

1. Asif Ahmed
2. Anamul Haque
3. Shuvagata Hom

Mominul Haque is good as well but he plays in the middle order.

MohammedC
December 30, 2011, 09:41 AM
I am looking for a terrific, young top order batsman to take up an overseas contract in England with an amateur club in Essex.

If you guys know or have any ideas about who this could be, would you post it here?

I am looking for them to arrive in April and stay until September. I can arrange for flights, accommodation, a car and payment.

Please advise....... but they need to be GOOD

Since your speciality is fast bowling I will go for

Alauddin Babu

Holden
December 30, 2011, 10:13 AM
The young players with the most potential at the moment are the aforementioned Mominul Haque, Anamul Haque and Asif Ahmed.
Anamul is also a WK and the other two can bowl useful spin. Out of the three I would say Mominul is the most developed. He has performed very well in Academy games and on his debut A team tour, he scored a 150 in one of the first class games against the West Indies. He also did very well in last years DPL (a competitive 50 over tournament in Bangladesh). I think he was second in the most runs scored, behind Mushfiqur. However Mominul is probably at his best in the middle-order, coming in at 4 or 5, while the other two usually come in at 1,2 or 3.
Also you might want to take into account these three are all in their early 20s and still "raw".


If you are looking for someone with a bit more first class experience then I would suggest Junaid Siddique, Jahurul Islam or Farhad Hossain. The first two you already know as they have played for the national team. Junaid did relatively well in the two tests he played in England (his scores were 58, 74, 1, 6). In the same tests Jahurul did less well (20, 46, 5, 0), however he did score 158 opening the innings against Surrey, and 58* against the England Lions in the tour matches.
Farhad hasn't been capped yet but has consistently scored runs in the NCL, the domestic first class league and also bowls very handy off breaks. All three are in their mid 20s.

Hope this information helps.

lamisa
December 30, 2011, 10:39 AM
asif ahmed and anamul haque.

Kabir
December 30, 2011, 11:28 AM
guys, Ian asked for an amateur club, not county cricket. Why are you suggesting players who have already played first class cricket?

betaar
December 30, 2011, 11:29 AM
I am surprised by the knowledge some of you members have on our domestic players, especially members who are not located in BD. Living abroad for the last 16 years, I have no clue on the quality of our club cricketers. Is your knowledge solely based on their (players) stat or from first hand observation? Looking at our players frailty in the international standard, it's safe to say that our domestic standard doesn't measure up, so going by mere domestic stat may not be a good yardstick to judge their quality (though in recent times both Sunny and Nazim did enough to show that experince at the domestic level may serve our players well). I understand Ian is just looking for players for an amateur club but that's besides the point.
I am not questioning anyone's ability here in judging a player; rather trying to understand how you guys justify the quality of the players when you came up with the list of names. But kudos to you all for the knowledge you have on our local boys.

Ian Pont
December 30, 2011, 12:30 PM
Thank you for all the suggestions so far!

To let you all know, every team in the Essex League has an 'overseas' player who has either already played FC cricket or sometimes internationally. Due to the finances, the overseas players tend to be 'up and coming' players or could be players at the end of their careers but have played a good standard.

Sri Lankan Russel Arnold, NZ player Chris Drum, West Indian Tino Best are just some of the higher profile players who have spent a summer in the UK gaining experience on grassy pitches where the ball nips about, playing in the Essex Leagues. It is a wonderful insight into a different culture here and players often go back home a better and wiser cricketer.

It is an opportunity for someone to get a chance here and learn a huge amount. It would clearly help if they are comfortable with English language.

Banglaguy
December 30, 2011, 12:35 PM
Wouldn't someone like Rajin Saleh be quite good?

nycpro96
December 30, 2011, 12:54 PM
I think it would be a great idea to send someone up and coming who could be either a potential opening partner for Tamim or a very solid first down. Send someone with adequate first class experience who has consistently done well for the past season or two.

Tiger444
December 30, 2011, 12:56 PM
Thanks coach Ian for the input. I believe it's best for an up and coming player to come in who hasn't had international experience yet. Since Anamul and Asif are still in their developmental stage of their careers, I think its best if 1 of them goes. It would also give future cricketers motivation that if they perform consistently then they can have an oppurtunity to go play amateur cricket in England. It would certainly increase the motivation of our players.
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FagunerAgun
December 30, 2011, 01:02 PM
Ian, why don't you contact BCB or other professionals in BD directly for a better exposure and information on the player you are looking for?

"Good" is a relative term that only professionals can assess applying the criteria you are looking for.

Ian Pont
December 30, 2011, 01:24 PM
Ian, why don't you contact BCB or other professionals in BD directly for a better exposure and information on the player you are looking for?

"Good" is a relative term that only professionals can assess applying the criteria you are looking for.

I will and I am..but I am also interested in what fans think too.

Tiger444
December 30, 2011, 01:33 PM
I will and I am..but I am also interested in what fans think too.

Thanks coach Ian for listening to our inputs. If you could let us know who you ended up taking to Essex, that would be great too.
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BANFAN
December 30, 2011, 03:15 PM
Ian, why don't you contact BCB or other professionals in BD directly for a better exposure and information on the player you are looking for?

"Good" is a relative term that only professionals can assess applying the criteria you are looking for.

And you think, BCB will recommend the best ;)

FagunerAgun
December 30, 2011, 03:29 PM
And you think, BCB will recommend the best ;)
Thank you, you touched the pinch nerve.

1. Why not? If not, then there is something between BCB and that individual.
2. It is good that Ian wants our point of views, but as a coach, he has better knowledge and access to information about the player(s) he is looking for.
3. You think that one toporder batsman (When we are starving for one and BCB is no way to release the best batsman without any formal agreement with Ian or his club) can play overseas without BCB's consent and then come back to BD and play in a higher level? :) I doubt it.

Dilscoop
December 30, 2011, 07:02 PM
I would recommend players like Rajin Saleh (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56074.html), Javed Omar (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55935.html), Dickens (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/55889.html), Mehrab Hossain (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55970.html) and Jr (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56031.html), Shahariar Hossain (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56104.html). I'd also recommend players that only played a handful of INT matches and now out of team for various reasons, such as Jahirul Islam, Hom, Dhiman Gosh, Dollar Mahmud (They would be better hire TBH)

When I look at some of these recommendation from the other members, I see lot of favoritism, lota "love" involved in those selection. Why would you want to send someone like Anamul or Roman? I wouldn't send any of the upcoming players. And also I see Anamul's name a lot in the forum these days. People are just throwing his name around at everything.

Holden
December 30, 2011, 08:03 PM
It is an opportunity for someone to get a chance here and learn a huge amount. It would clearly help if they are comfortable with English language.

From the players I mentioned before I know that Jahurul Islam speaks English very well.

Ajfar
December 30, 2011, 09:56 PM
I know exactly who BCB will recommend. Achraphul.
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MarufH
December 30, 2011, 10:36 PM
Jahurul Islam or Asif Ahmed.

22Yards
December 30, 2011, 10:42 PM
Jahirul Islam Omi seems to be the one.

nycpro96
December 30, 2011, 11:58 PM
Dhiman Ghosh might actually be a great choice for this opportunity. He should almost exclusively now be in contention for national selection. Going over to Essex and sharpening his batting in terms of playing swinging deliveries can only add more to his repertoire. Who knows, he could probably pick up some wicketkeeping skills too.

shakibrulz
December 31, 2011, 02:10 AM
Anamul Haque Bejoy, Mominul Haque, Dhiman Ghosh, Asif Ahmed Ratul, are among the top.

Anamul and Mominul toured England, though I'm not sure if they're decent English speakers.

shakibrulz
December 31, 2011, 02:12 AM
And also I see Anamul's name a lot in the forum these days. People are just throwing his name around at everything.
Lets see...I dunno, may be because he's a talented, young, top order batsman?

lamisa
December 31, 2011, 08:07 AM
dhiman ghosh has been exceptional in domestics lately

Naimul_Hd
December 31, 2011, 09:36 AM
I would recommend players like Rajin Saleh (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56074.html), Javed Omar (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55935.html), Dickens (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/55889.html), Mehrab Hossain (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55970.html) and Jr (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56031.html), Shahariar Hossain (http://search.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56104.html). I'd also recommend players that only played a handful of INT matches and now out of team for various reasons, such as Jahirul Islam, Hom, Dhiman Gosh, Dollar Mahmud (They would be better hire TBH)

When I look at some of these recommendation from the other members, I see lot of favoritism, lota "love" involved in those selection. Why would you want to send someone like Anamul or Roman? I wouldn't send any of the upcoming players. And also I see Anamul's name a lot in the forum these days. People are just throwing his name around at everything.

seriously ? Rajin, Javed omar, Mehrab Jr, Dickens ? young, terrific ?? :facepalm:

BANFAN
December 31, 2011, 09:50 AM
Some good players are already suggested in this thread. My best three players upcoming batsmen will be

1. Asif Ahmed (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/400585.html)
2. Anamul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/380354.html)
3. Mominul Haque (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/373696.html)

Let's see who they are....

Asif is 19 years 13 days old as of today. He is the most consistent of the three and plays at no 3 or no 4. He has played 15 FC matches averaging 43.11. He has 3 hundreds and 5 fifties to his name. He has been under radar for last 2/3 years and so far he seems to follow the right path.

Anamul is 19 runs 14 days old as of today. He has huge potential to partner Tamim in the opening slot in next 2/3 years. He has played 17 FC matches averaging 37.34 and has 4 hundreds and 4 fifties to his name.

Mominul is 20 years 92 days old as of today. He is another good potential but a bit inconsistent. He has scored 1 hundred and 4 fifties in the 14 FC matches he played so far.

Do you expect these guys to play in a ameature league?? I would rather want them to play BPL and DPL and NCL in BD.

Rifat
December 31, 2011, 09:56 AM
Asif Ahmed is the most appropriate choice. It is not about the league, it is about learning experience and developing your skill as a cricket player.

Naimul_Hd
December 31, 2011, 09:57 AM
Do you expect these guys to play in a ameature league?? I would rather want them to play BPL and DPL and NCL in BD.

Bro, i rate highly any amateur league in UK, Aus, SA than DPL, BPL. As Ian also mentioned, many international players played at this level to adopt and understand the condition better. To me, if any of these players can play 2-3 months in UK that wont hamper his development but only improve.

M.H.Rubel
December 31, 2011, 02:18 PM
This is an amature club so amature once in a blue moon type players are best suited.So my candidate is Ashraful.
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BANFAN
December 31, 2011, 07:36 PM
Bro, i rate highly any amateur league in UK, Aus, SA than DPL, BPL. As Ian also mentioned, many international players played at this level to adopt and understand the condition better. To me, if any of these players can play 2-3 months in UK that wont hamper his development but only improve.

Can't really agree. Enamul Huq is playing such leagues ... No improvement yet. Even Ashraful played ... No improvement ... Even English county experienced players struggle to adjust to int level... My friend ... It's your misconception of England and cricket.

You know everything written in Arabic, isn't Quran...some may even be Arabic choti shahitto. ... :) so pl don't start kissing every paper printed in Arabic language. Neither start admiring every level of cricket in England.

rinathq
December 31, 2011, 07:37 PM
Ian is looking for "terrific", "young", "top order" batsman. Dhiman, Shabbir, Rajin, Mehrab, Ashraful and many other names does not even match those words a bit.

Players like Dhiman and Jahirul will be under the rader so they needs to stay in the country rather than going away.
By "terrific" i understand someone with decent hitting qualities.

Ian is the player you are looking for will play both limited and long format games?

if its only for longer format, I would highly recommend Farhad Hossain. A consistent top order batsman with great skills. He is pretty young at 24 years old.
if its for multiple formats, than Asif Ahmed, Anamul Huq. You can also consider Shuvagata Hom as he is known for his aggressive nature against seamers which I think will be useful in English conditions.

Naimul_Hd
December 31, 2011, 11:36 PM
You know everything written in Arabic, isn't Quran...some may even be Arabic choti shahitto. ... :) so pl don't start kissing every paper printed in Arabic language. Neither start admiring every level of cricket in England.

HHS ! :notworthy:

lamisa
January 1, 2012, 07:40 AM
can't really agree. Enamul huq is playing such leagues ... No improvement yet. Even ashraful played ... No improvement ... Even english county experienced players struggle to adjust to int level... My friend ... It's your misconception of england and cricket.

You know everything written in arabic, isn't quran...some may even be arabic choti shahitto. ... :) so pl don't start kissing every paper printed in arabic language. Neither start admiring every level of cricket in england.

lol!!!!!!!!!

shuziburo
January 2, 2012, 03:56 PM
Can't really agree. Enamul Huq is playing such leagues ... No improvement yet. Even Ashraful played ... No improvement ... Even English county experienced players struggle to adjust to int level... My friend ... It's your misconception of England and cricket.

You know everything written in Arabic, isn't Quran...some may even be Arabic choti shahitto. ... :) so pl don't start kissing every paper printed in Arabic language. Neither start admiring every level of cricket in England.

:lol: :floor:

nadim 98
January 2, 2012, 03:59 PM
I fully agree with Banfan for once.:clap:
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M.H.Rubel
January 2, 2012, 05:33 PM
I think Al Shahriar Rokon will be a good choice as well.
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max410
January 3, 2012, 12:41 AM
ASIF AHMED obviously highest runs corer in National cricket league he has good batting average he has good records no doubt he can learn a lot from playing overseas..
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/400585.html

MarufH
January 3, 2012, 09:46 AM
Coach Ian, please do let us know who you have picked. We are eagerly waiting to see who will be the fortunate one to learn from the master. ;)

Dhakablues
January 3, 2012, 02:24 PM
I am surprised by the knowledge some of you members have on our domestic players, especially members who are not located in BD. Living abroad for the last 16 years, I have no clue on the quality of our club cricketers. Is your knowledge solely based on their (players) stat or from first hand observation? Looking at our players frailty in the international standard, it's safe to say that our domestic standard doesn't measure up, so going by mere domestic stat may not be a good yardstick to judge their quality (though in recent times both Sunny and Nazim did enough to show that experince at the domestic level may serve our players well). I understand Ian is just looking for players for an amateur club but that's besides the point.
I am not questioning anyone's ability here in judging a player; rather trying to understand how you guys justify the quality of the players when you came up with the list of names. But kudos to you all for the knowledge you have on our local boys.

Betaar: You have a very good point. Only few that are located near Dhaka and watches the league regularly ( i.e., Sohel NR) knows the real deal. Rest of us just speculate based on Prothom Alo, DailyStar, Kaler Kantha news along with BC Forum discussions where we pretty much do the RSS of news and synthesize our prediction..

As far as new players goes, we see the trend from U-19 selection, A team or Dhaka League stats, Senior Player or Coach interviews and can asess that Asif Ahmed, Mominul Haque, Anamul Haque like players will become the future stars of Bangladesh but rarely have any of us expats have seen them play!!!

Dhakablues
January 3, 2012, 02:25 PM
I think Al Shahriar Rokon will be a good choice as well.

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Yes, but he already moved to New Zealand 3 years ago and became a coach cum player...:)

betaar
January 3, 2012, 03:06 PM
Betaar: You have a very good point. Only few that are located near Dhaka and watches the league regularly ( i.e., Sohel NR) knows the real deal. Rest of us just speculate based on Prothom Alo, DailyStar, Kaler Kantha news along with BC Forum discussions where we pretty much do the RSS of news and synthesize our prediction..

As far as new players goes, we see the trend from U-19 selection, A team or Dhaka League stats, Senior Player or Coach interviews and can asess that Asif Ahmed, Mominul Haque, Anamul Haque like players will become the future stars of Bangladesh but rarely have any of us expats have seen them play!!!

I guess my initial hunch was right. As you said, most of the names listed in this thread is based on their domestic stat which may very well work for the amateur league Ian is looking for. But in BC I always see members throwing around names to be included in the national team. I get super confused wondering how they could be so sure of those players’ actual quality without seeing them. There may be very few members, like Sohel NR, who actually have seen the players they recommend but when it comes to injecting new blood in the national team, a lot of people throw around names like they have coached them or something. Without seeing, the only way players’ quality can be judged if the league they are playing in is well respected in terms of quality and they have a very good stat to back it up.

But it definitely takes a lot of interest to follow domestic players’ performance to even recommend names (regardless of whether or not those recommendations are worthwhile); so credit must be given to the members for showing such support for <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><st1:country-region alt=</st1:country-region><st1:place w:st="on">Bangladesh</st1:place> cricket.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>