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Nadim
February 26, 2012, 12:04 PM
Vote.


For me, it has to be Arafat sunny, the more i see this guy, the more mad i get at lalla :sick: and at BCB :sick: for not giving Sunny a single chance even for A team all these years. This guy have nice variation, flight,nice drift, his quicker one is a killer and most importantly his got a brian to be a gd spin bowler. Plus doesn't bowl short and wide or down the leg side every now and then. To add to it, a very gd fielder :D


Today against BB, he was superb, when his team-mates were going for boundary after boundary, he kept his calm and used his brain to bowl in the PP against Hodge and Shezab. BB's score was 68 after 6 overs, whereas, Sunny only gave away 16 runs from his 3 overs without a single boundary :D

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NB: he only had couple of bad match in entire tournament, which was against SR yesterday and the first match against DR(perhaps, due to being on tv live for the first time ever?)

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There are few more guy's who were unseen to us also impressed me, but not as much as A. Sunny. Shabbir and Anam would be my 2nd and 3rd find. But wasn't consistent enough to get the number 1 position.



Now pick one and say why you picked him. Make sure he is not a ex or current NAT player.

Nadim
February 26, 2012, 12:10 PM
Damn it!!! Missed Abul Hassan Raju's name. Mod's kindly add it if possible. Cheers :D

Night_wolf
February 26, 2012, 12:19 PM
Seriously u are jumping since sunny had a good BPL and feeling sick about lalla?...lalla in the same BPL that sunny played had the best eco for bowlers who bowled more then 30+ overs

Night_wolf
February 26, 2012, 12:20 PM
for me the find of the tournament is Zia and to a further extant milon...we have bucket full of SLA but not that much big hitters

MohammedC
February 26, 2012, 12:31 PM
Abul Hasan Raju

Rifat
February 26, 2012, 12:34 PM
yep! Another Sunny Delight :)

Nadim
February 26, 2012, 12:42 PM
Seriously u are jumping since sunny had a good BPL and feeling sick about lalla?...lalla in the same BPL that sunny played had the best eco for bowlers who bowled more then 30+ overs

I was never a fan of lalla and won't be.

let's come to the point..

Do you know how many overs Lalla bowled in the PP in BPL? and how many overs Arafat did?

Lalla in the PP in BPL so far:

Game 1 vs DG: 2-0-26-0
Game 2 vs CTG: DID NOT BOWL IN THE PP
Game 3 vs BB: DID NOT BOWL IN THE PP
Game 4 vs DR: 1-0-2-0
Game 5 vs SR: 1-0-11-1
Game 6 vs DG: DID NOT BOWL IN THE PP
Game 7 vs CTG: 1-0-5-1
Game 8 vs BB: 1-0-5-1
Game 9 vs DR: DID NOT BOWL IN THE PP

SO, out of 9 times, he only bowled 5 times in the PP. What does it tell you? Shak and Robin Singh thinks he is not a strike bowler simple as that.

LALLA in PP altogether: 5-0-49-3....Econ rate: 9.8

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Now Let's look at A.Sunny in the PP


Game 1 vs DR: 2-0-15-0
Game 2 vs KRB: 2-0-14-0
Game 3 vs DG: 2-0-2-2
Game 4 vs SR: 2-0-18-0
Game 5 vs BB: 2-0-7-1
Game 6 vs DR: 1-0-4-0
Game 7 vs KRB: 2-0-7-2
Game 8 vs DG: 3-0-12-1
Game 9 vs SR: 3-0-32-0
Game 10 vs BB: 3-0-18-0

Lets add up: 23 (overs) -0(maiden)- 129(runs)- 6 (wickets)

Econ rate:5.60 in 23 overs in the PP:notworthy:

And if you ignore the Worst game he had, game 9, his econ rate comes down to <5


Now back lalla up if you can :)

Nadim
February 26, 2012, 12:53 PM
And NW, most of the openers or top order batsman are overseas in all the team, so you can't say Sunny bowled well because of crappy deshi batsmans. :-P

Night_wolf
February 26, 2012, 01:00 PM
haha nadstar i am not going to back razzak up..i was only pointing out the line u wrote

Arafat sunny, the more i see this guy, the more mad i get at lalla:sick:

sunny did really well in BPL...but razzak didn't do that bad also..so that reference wasn't right..

if u wrote "Mominul, the more i see this guy, the more mad i get at SN/Mullah:sick:" that would have been right line:D

MohammedC
February 26, 2012, 01:02 PM
Al-Amin: I did not like one thing about him today. When Hodge instructed Mustard to stand up the wicket he changed it even when Hodge tried to explain then after getting slapped few times he listened to Hodge and immediately Zia gets stumped. If Al-Amin was Glen McGrath then I have no problem with that attitude but he has lot of things to learn specially from someone who has been playing high level cricket ever since Al-Amin was wearing his nappy.

Most importantly you must always listen to your captain.

Nadim
February 26, 2012, 01:07 PM
Al-Amin: I did not like one thing about him today. When Hodge instructed Mustard to stand up the wicket he changed it even when Hodge tried to explain then after getting slapped few times he listened to Hodge and immediately Zia gets stumped. If Al-Amin was Glen McGrath then I have no problem with that attitude but he has lot of things to learn specially from someone who has been playing high level cricket ever since Al-Amin was wearing his nappy.

Most importantly you must always listen to your captain.

it's might be language barrier? who knows?

MohammedC
February 26, 2012, 01:17 PM
it's might be language barrier? who knows?

No Dama Chapa please (you are not a [বাংলা]সিভ ফেন [/বাংলা]). Everyone clearly saw what happened he instructed the WK to stand back when Hodge wanted him standing up. No wonder he only bowled 1 over.

AMD128
February 26, 2012, 01:35 PM
My find from the first edition of the BPL.
Bowlers:- Saqlain Sajib, Arafat Sunny.
Batsmen:- Mominul, Ziaur Rahman, Sabbir.

Ziaur should be included in the national squad for Twenty20 World Cup. This guy has great amount of power on his wrist & can time the ball nicely too.

Dhakablues
February 26, 2012, 01:59 PM
My finding is,, we have a long way to go even if you compare with young foreign players like Jason Roy, Shehzad, Jamshid, Mustard etc. and looking at our bench, I now see why we should be really worried. Forget comparing Samuels, Sami, Chanderpaul, Hodge, etc.

There was no consistent batsmen or a consistent bowler who were unearthed. Yes, Arafat Sunny or Zia can be named a few to keep an eye on and they flashed, danced for a match or two. But nothing that gave us high hope to write home about. Players we thought were coming up ( Mominul, Anamul, Mithun, Shuvagato, etc.) dissapointed me because they are simply not ready and cannot be plugged in now. It was the same old dawgs of Shakib, Elias Sunny, Razzaque, Mushfique, Junaid, Alok, etc.

Maybe I am a pessimist but I think the learning from BPL is, we needed it earlier, we need more cricket, more coaches, more exposures for young players...

simon
February 26, 2012, 02:10 PM
arektu deikkha loi ;)

Dilscoop
February 26, 2012, 02:30 PM
I didn't find anyone...

22Yards
February 26, 2012, 02:32 PM
Surely Arafat Sunny,Sajib, Anamul and Mominul has impressed but I think the question here is whose services will help the national team more right now and the contenders for that has to be Ziur Rahman or Milon, both at the 6-7 place where we need a power hitter and Enamul Haque Jnr. I would wait on sunny a little more specially because our team has bountiful of spinners. Razzak even though has not been so terrible as I thought he would be before the tournament start, but his constant bowl down the leg side is painful to watch at this level. He would do this atleast once in every over. It gives me the idea that he is loosing control over his bowling day by day and that is one of the worst setback for a spinner. We have better spinners than him at the moment at our disposal namely elias sunny and enam.
On the other side, there were few dissapointments too. Jahurul Shuvagoto mithun not just failed in terms of playing upto their potential but exposed lack of maturity playing in big level games.

MohammedC
February 26, 2012, 02:32 PM
I didn't find anyone...

you did not even watch any matches according to your earlier post from another thread.

jeesh
February 26, 2012, 10:15 PM
So many good players have come out of this tournament. They have gotten visibility. My favourite will be Arafat Sunny like most of you. Many others may have a better record in BPL than him. But its the way he has bowled, way he has dismissed, way he has performed under pressure that has impressed me so much. This guy should be our 3rd spinner in the national team for ODI's and T20's after Shakib and Razzak.

Not sure how he ll do in longer version. For that i would prefer to see Shakib, Enamul Jnr and Elias Sunny.

3 left arm spinner in a match and overkill? Probably not. There was a time when Rafique, Razzak and Shakib used to play together. They used to stifle even the best of teams. If this is our strength we need to maximize on it

playmaker
February 26, 2012, 10:19 PM
I wanted a quality top order batsman in the BPL but ive been dissappointed. Ive hardly seen a local uncapped player playing in the top order which I must say is not good.

But to be honest, when IPL first came into place, the locals hardly performed. It was dominance from foreigners and also the indian intl players even though 7 locals per match as opposed to 6 in BPL. But in recent IPL ive seen players like tiwary, valhathy, iqbal abdullah and many others step up as they now have the confidence they had over the years.

So I think it will take some time and there is hope in the future :)
But yeah, id like the tournament to be going for about 4-5 weeks rather 3 weeks so that our locals gets more time with high quality management and also time with high profile player...3 weeks isnt too much, seriously, it isnt

playmaker
February 26, 2012, 10:23 PM
On the other hand, I think BPL has revived oppurtunities for junaed and enamul. junaed has shown why he was called one of BD's best T20 batsman after his debut

Enamul was brilliant, he had an eco. rate of about 6.5 which is brilliant wherease players like shafiul has the same economy rate in ODIs. He has also bowled his heart out and took a handful of wickets..Id have in the BD team ahead of razzak and Elias sunny

FagunerAgun
February 26, 2012, 10:23 PM
Nice thread, Nadster. Hope Sunny will be sunnier in the near future and spread his radiating rays over the national team.

BengaliPagol
February 26, 2012, 10:53 PM
Surely Arafat Sunny,Sajib, Anamul and Mominul has impressed but I think the question here is whose services will help the national team more right now and the contenders for that has to be Ziur Rahman or Milon, both at the 6-7 place where we need a power hitter and Enamul Haque Jnr. I would wait on sunny a little more specially because our team has bountiful of spinners. Razzak even though has not been so terrible as I thought he would be before the tournament start, but his constant bowl down the leg side is painful to watch at this level. He would do this atleast once in every over. It gives me the idea that he is loosing control over his bowling day by day and that is one of the worst setback for a spinner. We have better spinners than him at the moment at our disposal namely elias sunny and enam.
On the other side, there were few dissapointments too. Jahurul Shuvagoto mithun not just failed in terms of playing upto their potential but exposed lack of maturity playing in big level games.

We didnt find a solid player who could be a solid batsmen for us which was what we desperately need. We are finding endless amount of spinners. We didnt find a strike pace bowler as well.

Oh well we need to be patient. I thought about this but Bangladesh could create a different type of game that could bring alot of good international players into. (superstars like Michael Clarke, Mitchell Johnson, Eoin Morgan etc)

We could make a game that involves each team batting 2 inninngs of 20 overs each. Sort of a Test t20. If we start something new maybe we have more innings to develop players.

This also gives a chance of players getting more exposure and get to play more innings. Imagine players like Siddique opening the batting with Michael Clarke or Sangakarra or Dilshan?

We also need to cut the number of international players in each team from five to four. Too many international players in a team meant less exposure to Bangladeshi batsmen.

All in all BPL has been successful but we didnt even find one solid batsmen or one good seamer. We need to find a Michael Clarke of Bangladesh and a Dale Steyn of Bangladesh.

i_1_primeval_man
February 26, 2012, 11:44 PM
Voted for Arafat Sunny because he's an intelligent bowler. Zia is impressive too in this format of the game.

Rabz
February 27, 2012, 12:24 AM
To be honest, there hasn't been a "find" find.
Couple of the discards might get a call.
One or two upcoming youngsters reaffirmed their "upcoming" status.
We got to see 5000 other SLAs in the country and one or two of them had a good show.

But there wasn't any new find.
Having yet another SLA in the scene is not really too exciting for me.
Mominul had one notable innings, Anamul showed a bit of glimpse, Raju bowled a good spell, Noor showed promise, Zia hit few clean ones, so did Milon, Al Amin brought curiosity.

Thats about it.
Dont think any of these boys would feature in the Asia Cup, though one or two might sneak in the T20 World Cup in SL later this year. If they manage to do so, it will be a "find" then.

Zeeshan
February 27, 2012, 12:58 AM
found my inner ash

Naimul_Hd
February 27, 2012, 02:16 AM
My find is 'Shahriar Nafees' !

I never ever thought of him being such a coward and sissy player. When he had a great chance to show his captaincy abilities and power hitting batting, he just hid in the dug out. Not a single try to make it happen. Its time to put his cricket kits in the shelves and never ever think of further career in cricket, be it as coach, consultant etc.

And for promising players, still no one makes to my list. All of them showed some glimpses but that does not impress me much. We never had any doubt on their skills but no one really stood out from the crowd and said ' i am the real big thing for Bangladesh Cricket'.

BengaliPagol
February 27, 2012, 02:31 AM
My find is 'Shahriar Nafees' !

I never ever thought of him being such a coward and sissy player. When he had a great chance to show his captaincy abilities and power hitting batting, he just hid in the dug out. Not a single try to make it happen. Its time to put his cricket kits in the shelves and never ever think of further career in cricket, be it as coach, consultant etc.

And for promising players, still no one makes to my list. All of them showed some glimpses but that does not impress me much. We never had any doubt on their skills but no one really stood out from the crowd and said ' i am the real big thing for Bangladesh Cricket'.

I totally agree with you. Its really sad not to see out of the 23 million males living in Bangladesh we couldnt find one solid batsmen who can average 50 for us (or 45) in odi's or possibly in tests.

And also a good seamer who bowls good accurate off stump bowling.

Its sad to see that we have to rely on the next generation.

If we cant find good batsmen in Bangladesh then i guess we have to scout for Bangladeshi cricketers who live in England, Australia, South Africa and possibly in New Zealand.

Jadukor
February 27, 2012, 02:39 AM
i would say Arafat Sunny

playmaker
February 27, 2012, 05:20 AM
to be honest, what ive found is that our local players are far too crappier than international stars.

Rifat H
February 27, 2012, 05:29 AM
Abul Hasan Raju is the best find to me . He has nice action with very good pace . Arafat sunny is also a good find . But i am more excited with Raju as he is a fast bowler and we need some of them desperately

Zunaid
February 27, 2012, 06:41 AM
My find? Mash 3.0

Rabz
February 27, 2012, 06:50 AM
^^ Would that be a find or re-affirmation ??

Whatever version you may depict, he was and still is our best fast bowler.

F6_Turbo
February 27, 2012, 06:54 AM
My find? Mash 3.0

If he could somehow stay fit for 6-9 months in a row :(

Zunaid
February 27, 2012, 07:02 AM
^^ Would that be a find or re-affirmation ??

Whatever version you may depict, he was and still is our best fast bowler.

Amen to that. In Mash we trust. Just in case I'm accused of blasphemy - Shakib too. :-)

Zunaid
February 27, 2012, 07:03 AM
If he could somehow stay fit for 6-9 months in a row :(

Well, the short 4 over stints in a T20 and the pressure free Asia Cup (it's not the World Cup) will hopefully allow him to ease into it.

playmaker
February 27, 2012, 07:13 AM
resurrection of Enamul Haq

abu2abu
February 27, 2012, 07:14 AM
Hardly the "find of the tournament" but someone I've enjoyed watching is Noor Hossain Munna. We hear so much of up and coming youngsters on the domestic circuit but we rarely get to see them in action unless we are fortunate enough to attend domestic games in BD.

Munna has been much talked about and I like his bowling style. T20 might not be his forte but as a leg spinner with good control I can see this youngster playing for BD very soon. Here's hoping he develops into a real star for BD...

abu2abu
February 27, 2012, 07:19 AM
resurrection of Enamul Haq

Enamul defintiely deserves a national recall. He's been pigeon-holed as a test specialist for too long. This proves he has adapted his game to fit the demands of limited overs cricket.

He has only played a handful of ODIs and bizarrely these have all come against the same side: Zimbabwe.

I'd have him in the Aisa cup squad like a shot. Probably at the expense of Razzak and let him battle with Elias Sunny for a place in the starting XI...

Navo
February 27, 2012, 02:56 PM
Compare any of the domestic uncapped batsmen you saw glimmer in the BPL with Shehzad - Pakistan's rookie 20 year old. (Though you can't help but doubt the veracity of his age) He scored lots of runs, he was confident and committed - like an old pro. None of our players have shown that consistently.

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2012, 03:07 PM
This is not the place you would like to find players. If you want to evaluate players from this type of fun-fun cricket then come real time you will be so disappointed.

Good to see Mash bowling. Hopefully he only sticks to this format.

Holden
February 27, 2012, 09:12 PM
I totally agree with you. Its really sad not to see out of the 23 million males living in Bangladesh we couldnt find one solid batsmen who can average 50 for us (or 45) in odi's or possibly in tests.

And also a good seamer who bowls good accurate off stump bowling.

Its sad to see that we have to rely on the next generation.

If we cant find good batsmen in Bangladesh then i guess we have to scout for Bangladeshi cricketers who live in England, Australia, South Africa and possibly in New Zealand.

I'm sorry but how are you going to find these type of players in a T20 competition??
Test cricket and even ODI cricket are both very different to T20 cricket. They require different skill sets. There's a reason why players such as Dravid, Ganguly, Kallis, Clarke, Ponting, Cook etc are masters in Tests but relativel;y ordinary in T20. Then you have players like Yusuf Pathan, Raina, Pollard who are the opposite. Of course you will also have some players who are good at both.

We shouldn't let any performances in this competition be used for selection in Tests and ODIs. Anyone who performs well in BPL should be considered for the T20 squad. We have enough problems with selecting players in the wrong formats without the BPL making it worse.

zinatf
February 27, 2012, 09:56 PM
Mominul. A good finisher and match winner!!

Naimul_Hd
February 27, 2012, 10:38 PM
Mominul. A good finisher and match winner!!

Bujhlam...accha bolo to, Mominul right handed naki left handed ? :)

Zeeshan
February 28, 2012, 01:04 AM
Sheena

Mullah runs mosque only.

idrinkh2O
February 28, 2012, 01:10 AM
I voted other:

Gazi Ashraf Hossain Lipu :E

Rabz
February 28, 2012, 01:34 AM
^^ Find of the year :D

BengaliPagol
February 28, 2012, 03:01 AM
I'm sorry but how are you going to find these type of players in a T20 competition??
Test cricket and even ODI cricket are both very different to T20 cricket. They require different skill sets. There's a reason why players such as Dravid, Ganguly, Kallis, Clarke, Ponting, Cook etc are masters in Tests but relativel;y ordinary in T20. Then you have players like Yusuf Pathan, Raina, Pollard who are the opposite. Of course you will also have some players who are good at both.

We shouldn't let any performances in this competition be used for selection in Tests and ODIs. Anyone who performs well in BPL should be considered for the T20 squad. We have enough problems with selecting players in the wrong formats without the BPL making it worse.

Wat are you talking about? Im talking about Bangladesh not finding a consistent no. 3 batsmen and a talented seamer. Wat are you talking about?

jeesh
February 28, 2012, 05:58 AM
Find of the tournament unfortunately will only benefit Pakistan. It has to be Ahmed Shehzad. What a player-devastating batsman, good fielder, useful bowler. Only 20 years old. Pakistan have enough talent to field a second side. And you can be sure with the second team they ll be beating a lot of teams in world cricket

MohammedC
February 28, 2012, 06:17 AM
I voted other:

Gazi Ashraf Hossain Lipu :E

I also voted others when Raju's name was not there now changing it to "Lipu"