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Optimist
March 9, 2004, 11:18 AM
I know it's a silly question. But I think Sylhet deserved better. Sylhet already have some national players and they desrves better training facilities. Is the stadium in Bogra going to be sustainable? I'm afraid that depending on the outcome of the next election, Bogra stadium might turn out to be a farmland!!!

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Rubu
March 9, 2004, 12:37 PM
without proper care, any stidium can turn into a cattle field. no doubt about it. but i think bogra is not that bad of an idea mainly because the northern part of our country lacks cricket facilities. if it limits to just a field, its useless doesn't matter where. but if it includes some academy as well in order to try to bring up some new talent, bogra is not a bad idea. other than pilot (and away ago saikat-the spinner) there is no cricket from this region. like many other region in our country, this part needs a comb sweep too.

Optimist
March 9, 2004, 12:47 PM
We already have a divisional stadium at Rajshahi that has been renovated (Pilot is from Rajshahi). We surely don't have unlimited resources; It is prudent to use those resources carefully. The divisional stadiums will be used for first class matches. So Sylhet deserved priority over Bogra.

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reverse_swing
March 9, 2004, 12:57 PM
so u r from Sylhet..

Optimist
March 9, 2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by rezwan1977
so u r from Sylhet..

Nope! not even close!!!

AsifTheManRahman
March 9, 2004, 01:05 PM
Bogra because thats where zia is from...(or is it khaleda?)

reverse_swing
March 9, 2004, 01:06 PM
Putul(khaleda) is from Feni/Dinajpur I think.

mahbubH
March 9, 2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by AgentSmith
other than pilot (and away ago saikat-the spinner) there is no cricket from this region.

I think Musfiq Babu and Alamgir from Rajshahi division...

reverse_swing
March 9, 2004, 01:12 PM
Alamgir is actually from Nababganj, Dhaka

rafiq
March 9, 2004, 01:15 PM
fab or someone pointed out that ziaur rahman was from bogra. so there is your answer. my thought is as long as the stadium is full, it's OK. But if favoring towns for cricket is based on who was born there, then yes we are headed for yet more turmoil. if AL comes to power then bogra stadium may be razed to the ground! and if jamati forces complete their slow coup and kick out BNP altogether then Bangladesh will be playing home matches in...Karachi?


Note: above statements are speculative and forward-looking, and not meant to be used for making any investment decisions regarding land around exisiting or future Bangaldesh test cricket stadiums.:)

[Edited on 9-3-2004 by rafiq]

Pundit
March 9, 2004, 02:24 PM
I think there should be a Hartal in Dhaka over this injustice !

Pundit
March 9, 2004, 02:37 PM
From,

-Division better skilled at cricket but not getting a stadium, to

-One's homeland getting a stadium, to

-Jamaat running Bangladesh !

Amazing flow of argument !!!

But let me hallucinate with irrational fear for a second -

If jamaat were to be running BD (and democratically they have the right, don't they), and BD became a sub-division of Pakistan, then "we" would not be playing in Karachi as a home ground.

"They" would be playing in Dhaka as a homeground.

:)

Rubu
March 9, 2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by rafiq
fab or someone pointed out that ziaur rahman was from bogra. so there is your answer. my thought is as long as the stadium is full, it's OK. But if favoring towns for cricket is based on who was born there, then yes we are headed for yet more turmoil. if AL comes to power then bogra stadium may be razed to the ground! and if jamati forces complete their slow coup and kick out BNP altogether then Bangladesh will be playing home matches in...Karachi?


Note: above statements are speculative and forward-looking, and not meant to be used for making any investment decisions regarding land around exisiting or future Bangaldesh test cricket stadiums.:)

[Edited on 9-3-2004 by rafiq]

yeah, i agree with ur thought. but mark it rajakars (aka jamaats will never be in power by themselves to move the homeground to karachi)

billah
March 9, 2004, 03:16 PM
Northern Bangladesh is way behind, generally much impoverished than the south. It will be good for the north. Bogra town could use a facelift. Even with it's famous archeological sites, it still looks like a dump. So much for Zia being from there. By the way, Khaleda Zia is from Feni, previously, greater Noakhali.

Pundit
March 9, 2004, 04:17 PM
Just like the ICC wants to spread the game through monetarily assisting the poorer countries, the BCB might simply have thought of spreading the game to the more "dump" areas which typically do not benefit from the superior local financial conditions.

I would have thought that most of the "in-denial" socialists on this board would have appreciated that simple concept more. But unfortunately it comes down to partisan comments in every posting.

Optimist
March 9, 2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Pundit
Just like the ICC wants to spread the game through monetarily assisting the poorer countries, the BCB might simply have thought of spreading the game to the more "dump" areas which typically do not benefit from the superior local financial conditions.

I would have thought that most of the "in-denial" socialists on this board would have appreciated that simple concept more. But unfortunately it comes down to partisan comments in every posting.

I'm very surprised by the logic or the lack of it in your post. ICC does support poorer countries. But it is not random; ICCs funding is based on the popularity and prospect of cricket in those countries. If BCB had constructed Bogra stadium based on certain specific data I have no problem. I just wanted to know what are the reasons! Because from what I know cricket is more popular in some other regions and these regions are also crying for BCB support. There are no "socialist" or "imperialistic" agenda in my post. I hoped some people from Bogra will answer my questions regarding the tradition and popularity of cricket in that region. If BCB can built modern stadiums in each of the districts then I will be very very happy!!

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billah
March 9, 2004, 05:16 PM
Optimist: I'm not from Bogra, but I know that cricket is pretty popular in highschool & college level there.

mahbubH
March 9, 2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by rezwan1977
Alamgir is actually from Nababganj, Dhaka

Is your source cricinfo?

My guess Alamgir is from Rajshahi div because he plays for them (link (http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PLAYERS/BDESH/A/ALAMGIR_KABIR_25035500/)) and there may be a little error in cricinfo (chapai)Nababganj!!!

Sorry all these are my guess!

Pundit
March 9, 2004, 09:16 PM
Optimist -

Please note that comments on socialism were posted on a separate paragraph from that with comments addressed to you.

Anyway, each govt builds more schools at one place than another, more madrasas in one place than another, more hospitals in one place than another...so this is merely just another of its projects.

Typically, other districts benefit from their economic significances, and for the less fortunate districts, they look to govt funds.

Nothing to be jealous of. Also, everything that the govt does, need not be logical, especially this case. It is after all merely building 1 stadium, no not for Indians or Pakistanis, but for Bdeshis.

Anyway, regarding the ICC, I am sure many Englishmen are strongly against what is being done for BD in the name of cricket. So, do they stop doing that then ??

Rubu
March 9, 2004, 10:52 PM
I hoped some people from Bogra will answer my questions regarding the tradition and popularity of cricket in that region.

looks like i'm the closest match to answer this question. I'm from sirajganj, next to bogra. I'm not sure about bogra, but as two adjacent district, description of one should apply to ther.
what i've seen is this, there is no support for cricket from any organization. there are many kind of leagues on going always that is sponsered by some club. kinda like asking few other nearby clubs to join in and they create an own tournament having some support from some business. for example "Mukul tailors tape tennis cricket league" (one that i actually remember. i think u know what is tape tennis? rapping the tennis ball with tape to play cricket. very popular among kids). the only hope for cricketer their to be exposed is to get into BKSP after ssc. u know how small the chances are. i can say this much: cricket is played at least 10 times more than football. ofcourse this does not indicate anything. moreover, because i don't have any idea about other lagging region, can't say how appropiate to give it to bogra. but i can say giving it to bogra will give quite a few cricketer a chance.

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Zunaid
March 10, 2004, 01:00 AM
Aaah. A fellow sirajgonji...

Back to cricket...

I've been away from Bangladesh too long. So outside of Dhaka/Chittagong where is cricket thriving or at least more popular?

Perhaps politics wasn't the reason for the Bogra stadium - perhaps it was to popularise cricket in places it is not so popular? (yeah, right)

From my days the main centers were Dhaka, Ctg, Rajshahi and Mymensingh. If we were to consider an equitable distribution I would say additionally the following additional places/regions should have good stadiums

Sylhet
Comilla
Patuakhali/Noakhali
Rangpur/Dinajpur
Pabna/Sirajgonj
Jessore
Khulna
Barisal

Sort of well spread geographically... May be too much density for North Bengal.

- Z

Sham
March 10, 2004, 01:25 AM
I think they are simply trying to take cricket to parts which have never seen much cricket before. As for Sylhet (my family is from there), I am pretty sure it will boast the next Test venue in BD so I don't think it will be much deprived. Spreading the game is good. Let north Bengal get some action.

ps. Cricket now enjoys tremendous popularity throughout Bangladesh. I don't really think it is possible to define regions by cricketing popularity any longer.

[Edited on 10-3-2004 by Sham]

crickipagol
March 10, 2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Pundit
I think there should be a Hartal in Dhaka over this injustice !

You never know, this may come true. I have seen "Class bandh" at BUET, just from silly rumor, or someone's whimsical decision.

Go hartal go..........where?........where else, to the HELL!

fab
March 10, 2004, 01:47 AM
I have nothing against Bogra being the next international cricketing venue in BD.
But given the past record of our politicians, it was hard for me to digest the correlation as a MERE coincidence..
Frankly, I don't think the decision was logical - but then, when have BD politicians ever been that? :)

Nasif
March 10, 2004, 01:53 AM
My view is that, it really doesn't matter where they create a stadium for next test venue as long as they do it. Funding is from ICC so as long as the stadium gets built I don't have any complain, be it in Bogra or in Nowakhali!

crickipagol
March 10, 2004, 02:04 AM
I am from Bogra. But I have no idea about the recent cricket situation over there.

The local league used to be mainly "para/moholla" based. And those matches were always played at "Mohammad Ali Maath". Being in the center of the city, gave this ground had an edge over shahid Chandu Stadium (recently renovated with ICC money, and powerful guys are taking the Bah Bah!). And the matches were always played in the weekends, otherwise players were the spectators.

As most of you hinted, and I would also agree, Bogra is selected mainly due to the BNP affiliations. One minor factor could be, that there is a "Parjatan Motel" near the stadium. Otherwise, international palyers simply have to book in a traditional "Chit kaat boarding", commonly found in our towns and cities.

There is no point arguing on these. Our character will never change.

[Edited on 10-3-2004 by crickipagol]

fab
March 10, 2004, 02:25 AM
My view is that, it really doesn't matter where they create a stadium for next test venue as long as they do it.
Well not really, they should be making stadiums where there is a requirement (i.e. a lot of local support and interest for cricket, a lot of potential from the region etc) But then, on the bright side, at least the dude didn't hail from Satkira or summat :)