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playmaker
March 16, 2012, 04:05 AM
In the 1st ODI if lullah wasnt given out, we couldve won the match easily

this match(VS india), Kohli was totally plumb.

From now on any partiality towards a strong team is absolutely unacceptable esp. when it gomes against us.

:mad:

Shaun petr
March 16, 2012, 04:28 AM
you are right buddy. I just can't take this anymore. We always have these agent umpires from India and Australia. What they are up to i don't know.
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playmaker
March 16, 2012, 04:30 AM
Attention mods: I made a type, it shud be "How" not "Hwo"

Purbasha T
March 16, 2012, 07:00 AM
To be honest, it was a bit on the higher side. Even DRS might not have changed the decision if 50%+ of the ball was found to be missing the stumps.

But we need the DRS, no doubt about that.

AMD128
March 16, 2012, 07:00 AM
I guess we've but no choice to go for DRS. WE NEED IT more then other teams do. Do hope BCB would opt for DRS pretty soon. Maybe in our next home series. :facepalm: :facepalm:

playmaker
March 16, 2012, 07:02 AM
To be honest, it was a bit on the higher side. Even DRS might not have changed the decision if 50%+ of the ball was found to be missing the stumps.

But we need the DRS, no doubt about that.

Nope, the ball was completely hitting ths stump, and to add to that the ball was plumb while kohli was on the backfoot, went on to make a lot of runs

Antora
March 16, 2012, 07:05 AM
If Kholi had been out for a duck, the whole game could've been so different :(

kalpurush
March 16, 2012, 07:14 AM
Attention mods: I made a type, it shud be "How" not "Hwo"
Done!

WE have another thread for the same topic though. I am going to merge the threads later on.

playmaker
March 16, 2012, 07:16 AM
^^^
Ok, though I know there are some srs Umpire bashing threads, can merge with them

playmaker
March 16, 2012, 07:17 AM
If Kholi had been out for a duck, the whole game could've been so different :(

Dhoni and the lower batsman didnt look too comfortable. had kohli gone out then india would struggle to get to even 250

Tigers_eye
March 16, 2012, 10:19 AM
MF Thired umpire robbed Shakib!
I am not watching. Was he notout?

al Furqaan
March 16, 2012, 11:06 AM
I am not watching. Was he notout?

Different angles showed different things. My gut says he was indeed OUT, but if this was the other team, he would have stayed put.

shakibrulz
March 16, 2012, 11:11 AM
Benefit of doubt surely should have gone to the batsman, looked 50/50 to me.

al-Sagar
March 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
UMPIRE o ajke MOM ke out koire haraite parlo na .....

ekhon theke ebhabei amra jitbo

playmaker
March 16, 2012, 11:25 AM
had the decisions gone in favour of us...we couldve won the match by 40 overs = bonus point

(hey Im talking abt kohli and shakib's decision....)

*optimism*

mufi_02
March 16, 2012, 11:40 AM
Different angles showed different things. My gut says he was indeed OUT, but if this was the other team, he would have stayed put.

I disagree. In all the angles except one, his feet was on the white line. Now I don't know, isn't white line considered safe too? If yes, then he was DEF in.

jeesh
March 16, 2012, 11:41 AM
Shakibs decision was a very harsh one. Indian batsman=benefit of doubt.

Shubho
March 16, 2012, 11:45 AM
Suck it up, guys. Bad umpiring decisions against weaker teams is a fact of life. We have to live with it. Have got to prove our worth in spite of it. If you don't play like sissies, you can overcome even such blatant obstacles.

BASSMAN
March 16, 2012, 11:50 AM
The Shakib out was very unlucky....even on this rare occasion cricinfo commies said it was unlucky.

The 3rd umpire was from Sri Lanka.....another Arvinda De Silva in the making???

Navo
March 16, 2012, 11:57 AM
^ you mean Ashoka de Silva, Bassman

shakibrulz
March 16, 2012, 11:57 AM
Ashwin to Shakib Al Hasan, OUT, 81.7 kph, Tough call for the umpire! Ashwin gets some sharp turn that beats the left-hander, Shakib was a long way forward, Dhoni was very confident, and I think Shakib was a touch unlucky here! The benefit of the doubt should have gone to the batsman, a part of his boot was on the line but one angle suggested a part of it was behind the crease when the bail was off the groove, Bangladesh have to move on now


If it's on the line it's out - but such 50-50 decisions should be adjudged in favor of the batsman - that's the rule.

Beamer
March 16, 2012, 12:00 PM
Shakib was robbed. There was no conclusive evidence, and such the batsman should have got the benefit of doubt. But, its a mute point now. We did it despite..

zman
March 16, 2012, 06:13 PM
Ans. SHAKIB & CO. JUST SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW IT'S DONE

Dilscoop
March 16, 2012, 07:37 PM
It would be lot simpler if the lines were just a bit thicker and if the lines didn't "belong to the umpire." It would make it easier on everyone, specially for the umps. But of course ICC won't realize it.

Touching the line, you are safe.

Biggus
March 16, 2012, 08:01 PM
Don't complain about the umpiring guys or you'll end up sounding like the really bad Indian fans. Anyone who's done it knows how tough it is. I've seen the replays and they could have gone either way. Last night they went against you and on another day they will go in your favour. Such is life! This is cricket guys, not some other sport, and we must all (fans included) accept the umpires decision. If we're not prepared to do so we should go and play or follow some other sport where good grace and dignity are not considered worthwhile.

Dilscoop
March 16, 2012, 08:06 PM
Be honest here guys. Would you not complain if Shakib's like call went the other way for the other team? It was 50/50 and since he took so long to make that call, it should've gone in favor of Shakib, by the law, BUT then Indians would have an excuse. It's better this way. Plus this way Rahim got a chance to back up his words, "Imma eff them bowlers up."

zinatf
March 16, 2012, 09:24 PM
ei umpire guli re dhoira pitaaye tuladhuna kora uchit :E The officials should introduce DRS to Asia Cup. Horribly wrong decisions.

bujhee kom
March 16, 2012, 10:25 PM
Umpires are humans, it's a match of a game...mistakes, bad calls will happen, it is only natural.

shakibrulz
March 16, 2012, 11:03 PM
Umpires are humans, it's a match of a game...mistakes, bad calls will happen, it is only natural.
It almost goes against Bangladesh, so I do think it's a fair point - sure - you need to get over it etc. - but teams like Bangladesh getting robbed each time means the odds of winning goes even lower - that sucks.

Anyways great that Shakib's effort was not in vain and Mushy and Nasir cashed in.

jeesh
March 16, 2012, 11:38 PM
Shakib there for another 5-7 overs, man he would have belted and harassed the Indians.

playmaker
March 17, 2012, 01:57 AM
if we lost the match I think umpires wouldhave been STONED by the fans

BASSMAN
March 17, 2012, 02:36 AM
If Allah wills it not even these rubbish umpires can stop Bangladesh from winning.

Leafs PWN
March 17, 2012, 02:51 AM
The umpiring today was completely disgraceful. We need DRS 100%

stuge
March 17, 2012, 02:59 AM
There won't be any DRS unless BCCI wants it ..period ! I know it sucks ,but thats the way it is .

Foozy
March 17, 2012, 03:31 AM
Virat Kohli not out was the first "innocent mistake". Then there was a few no balls due to high full tosses that were not given. Then there was the obvious Sakib thing.

If anyone is arguing that do well and then umpires will respect you, then that will not happen to bd for a very very long time. A man of Sakib's stature must be respected in that case does not matter what team it is against.

Also a kohli out would mean India negative 50. A Sakib not out would mean umm... lets say another +50 just like Kohli. That on its own would give us a 100 run advantage. Take that into account and the match should have been a walk in the park today.

If we complain about these issues on a day that we lose, then people around the world will say oh they lost so they are complaining just as always. Its better to bring these things in the limelight when you are on top. Then people give a $iht!

playmaker
March 17, 2012, 04:08 AM
I think if the decision came against and Indian batsman...theyde say: "We could have won the match but had the stupid umpire not given him out" and crap

Indian fans saying that the dec. shud be out but if it had been their own cricketer theyde be sending ICC to ban the umpires

Or sakib wasnt given out and then he easily took BD to victory the idiots wud be saying: "He was on the line and stuff, we lost because that umpire didnt give it out and stuff"

dont make cricket a religion, its a sport. Anything that goes against u guyz, youll say that the decision was pathetic, and it if goes for you say it was def. right

fuadomar
March 17, 2012, 05:45 AM
Did you miss the one of Raina against Razzak. That's looked plumb to me, too although surprisingly they didn't run any replay.

shuziburo
March 17, 2012, 07:24 AM
I am not watching. Was he notout?

If the batsman was from any of the "major" countries, he would be given notout. Benefit of doubt is supposed to go to the batsman and at least from one angle, Shakib appeared safe.

shuziburo
March 17, 2012, 07:27 AM
Don't complain about the umpiring guys or you'll end up sounding like the really bad Indian fans. Anyone who's done it knows how tough it is. I've seen the replays and they could have gone either way. Last night they went against you and on another day they will go in your favour. Such is life! This is cricket guys, not some other sport, and we must all (fans included) accept the umpires decision. If we're not prepared to do so we should go and play or follow some other sport where good grace and dignity are not considered worthwhile.

If the decisions truly went 50/50 or even 40/60, I would be fine. But, BD (and other "weaker" teams) are always robbed by the umpires. Oh, well. This is the fact of life. BCB can file complaints with ICC. But, we need to move on.

WE WON!!!

Biggus
March 17, 2012, 08:52 AM
If the decisions truly went 50/50 or even 40/60, I would be fine. But, BD (and other "weaker" teams) are always robbed by the umpires. Oh, well. This is the fact of life. BCB can file complaints with ICC. But, we need to move on.

WE WON!!!

You're entitled to your opinion as am I but you needen't bother about what I've said. No-one's taken any notice of it and you're all complaining as if there's some sort of conspiracy.

There's nothing worse in this game than people who moan about umpiring. They're like gamblers in reverse. Gamblers always remember their wins and never their losses. When people who are prone to complain about umpiring decisions get a close one that goes their way they dismiss it as an obvious one and forget that they got the benefit of it, but when the close one goes against them we never hear the end of it.

This idea of close umpiring decisions always going to the big teams is rubbish. Many times I see close decisions made against my Aussie team that could have gone the other way but I just shrug my shoulders and concede to myself that it's not always that way.

As I said in my original post I've seen the replays of the decisions that went against you and if anything I think that Shakib was just out. His reaction is irrelevant as he wasn't in a good position to tell and he should know better than to act all shocked. The LBW could have gone either way and on this occasion it went against you.

But of course feel free to dismiss all I've said as rubbish. Feel free to moan about discrimination. Feel free to play the victim card. If it makes you feel better who am I to argue about it. DRS won't change that either as you'll only complain about the interpretation of that evidence then.

I'm well aware that I will attract a great deal of criticism for saying this but it had to be said. If some of you could take off your nationalistic goggles you'd be able to see it too. I've had enough of some of you one-eyed fan(atic)s. I'm out of here.

PoorFan
March 17, 2012, 10:12 AM
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I'm well aware that I will attract a great deal of criticism for saying this but it had to be said. If some of you could take off your nationalistic goggles you'd be able to see it too. I've had enough of some of you one-eyed fan(atic)s. I'm out of here.
Why you are getting so emotional even if someone see things otherway? Nobody here on BC criticising you, nor attacking you personally, why making great deal of 'I am out of here'? I thought you are old enough to handle the fan(atic)s out there! No?

firstlane
March 17, 2012, 10:19 AM
You're entitled to your opinion as am I but you needen't bother about what I've said. No-one's taken any notice of it and you're all complaining as if there's some sort of conspiracy.

There's nothing worse in this game than people who moan about umpiring. They're like gamblers in reverse. Gamblers always remember their wins and never their losses. When people who are prone to complain about umpiring decisions get a close one that goes their way they dismiss it as an obvious one and forget that they got the benefit of it, but when the close one goes against them we never hear the end of it.

This idea of close umpiring decisions always going to the big teams is rubbish. Many times I see close decisions made against my Aussie team that could have gone the other way but I just shrug my shoulders and concede to myself that it's not always that way.

As I said in my original post I've seen the replays of the decisions that went against you and if anything I think that Shakib was just out. His reaction is irrelevant as he wasn't in a good position to tell and he should know better than to act all shocked. The LBW could have gone either way and on this occasion it went against you.

But of course feel free to dismiss all I've said as rubbish. Feel free to moan about discrimination. Feel free to play the victim card. If it makes you feel better who am I to argue about it. DRS won't change that either as you'll only complain about the interpretation of that evidence then.

I'm well aware that I will attract a great deal of criticism for saying this but it had to be said. If some of you could take off your nationalistic goggles you'd be able to see it too. I've had enough of some of you one-eyed fan(atic)s. I'm out of here.
People are not 'moaning' just because there were couple of 50/50 decisions went our way yesterday. There is a decade long history. It started in our early days when we were struggling to get some ground under our feet. We were robbed a test match victory against Pakistan (in 2003/04 I guess) to start with. That would have been our first test match victory. We have been since made Guinea Pigs and assigned the shyttiest of umpires to run the matches. Rod Tuckers & Ashoka De Silvas dumped their shamelessly unjust decisions on us over and over again.

I am not sure if you are aware that Jamie Siddons once walked upto the match referee's room out of utter frustration. Our board president had to speak up in press conference against bad umpiring. But ICC didn't bother to send better umpires. Instead they sent Ashoka's clone Tarapore.

So it might sound 'moaning' to you if you don't consider the long standing sufferings we had to endure. And we know not people care about couple of wrong decisions against Bangladesh because they would lose anyway. But it hurts where it matters. We could be a novice nation to cricket but we are not that naive. Yes there are erroneous decisions in almost every match and we don't label that as 'conspiracy'. In fact, its the 'negligent umpiring' which we have always been vocal about.

PoorFan
March 17, 2012, 10:34 AM
Couple of things that bother me ...

1. When thired umpire checking the vedio, verious angle and staff ... does he can hear what commentators are saying? I mean if commentators make judgement before thired umpire does, ovbiously it could make pressure/influence to the verdict. I cant think of a thired umpire sitting idle all the time in a room without having a TV set showing the game live. That means he can hear the commentators, anyone have any knowledge on this?

2. Any team should not wear shoes with black sole or color that could be same as pitch, otherwise it could be difficult to judge some portion of the shoes behind the line. Is there any ICC regulation on this regard?

playmaker
March 17, 2012, 10:44 AM
Couple of things that bother me ...

1. When thired umpire checking the vedio, verious angle and staff ... does he can hear what commentators are saying? I mean if commentators make judgement before thired umpire does, ovbiously it could make pressure/influence to the verdict. I cant think of a thired umpire sitting idle all the time in a room without having a TV set showing the game live. That means he can hear the commentators, anyone have any knowledge on this?

2. Any team should not wear shoes with black sole or color that could be same as pitch, otherwise it could be difficult to judge some portion of the shoes behind the line. Is there any ICC regulation on this regard?

Nope, the 3rd umpire can hear nothing. Infact, no umpire, player or even the spectators hear what the commys say.

And for your 2nd point, there is a rule that you have to wear proper shoes. Youll see that players can only wear white shoes with other colours in them but never will you see full black shoes, ICC is strict about these things..to an extent that is

Night_wolf
March 17, 2012, 12:26 PM
UMPIRE o ajke MOM ke out koire haraite parlo na .....

ekhon theke ebhabei amra jitbo

:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

amar moner kotha bolsen