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MohammedC
March 24, 2012, 05:21 PM
BCB to utilise long break

The Tigers will get a long break from international cricket after the completion of the exciting Asia Cup as their next international assignment is against Zimbabwe in August.

After the region's biggest cricket competition the main question surrounding Bangladesh cricket was whether the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) will be able to chalk out a proper plann during the off-season before the Zimbabwe tour and ICC T20 World Cup to be held in September in Sri Lanka.

Many had cited the lack of preparation as one of the main reasons behind the Tigers' disastrous performance on the last tour of Zimbabwe in July-August last year, which is why the cricket operations committee wanted to take some necessary actions to make sure that the Tigers go into the tour with adequately prepared.

“The cricket operations committee met today to discuss the planning, where the head coach was also present. We are not ready to face the same criticism that we faced after the last Zimbabwe tour. We may go to any European country like Ireland and Scotland for preparation. Some other options were also discussed. Actually, we will now work out the feasible options,” said Enayet Hossain Siraj, chairman of the BCB's cricket operations committee, yesterday.

“You know our domestic commitments will end by April 20 and after that we will get three months for preparation and we want to take best preparation this time. We also discussed the preparations for the T20 World Cup,” he added.

After completion of the Premier Division Cricket Super League matches, the last matches of the second phase of the National Cricket League will be held on April 10-13 while the final is scheduled for April 16-20.

It was learnt that coach Stuart Law expressed his desire to arrange a three-week conditioning camp in Melbourne during the off time but BCB may not consent to his idea because of the huge expense.

Zimbabwe Cricket has been trying to convince their Bangladesh counterparts to change the tour schedule from August to October-November but the officials in the BCB were divided regarding the proposal.

Some believe that it will better for the Tigers to tour in October-November because the conditions in August are very cool while others weren't ready to sacrifice domestic cricket by changing the schedule.

“We will go to Zimbabwe in August as per earlier scheduled, otherwise our domestic cricket will suffer,” said Siraj.

As per schedule Bangladesh will play two T20Is, two Tests and three one-day matches in Zimbabwe but BCB is trying to add one more Test, which has been pending for long.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=227597

boka
March 24, 2012, 06:36 PM
BCB should have clear schedule for our “A” team and academy team during the off season as well. Yearly schedule they should publish in their official web site.

After Asia cup 2012 performance finding a sponsor for conditioning camp at Melbourne won't be that difficult. BCB should give their best to get that and go as per our head coach's advise.

Best interest of our team should come first rather than thinking about money too much.

Also hope our school cricket this year will be longer version ( 2 days initial rounds, Final round 3 days, semi-finals and final 4 days match)

Dilscoop
March 24, 2012, 07:28 PM
BCB can't pay for 25ish people /3 weeks in Aus? Good on Law for coming up with this idea, instead of taking a vaca. Of course this means he can go to Aus for 3 weeks, but at least players will be busy.

Stop eating on BPL money...

firstlane
March 24, 2012, 07:36 PM
Seriously, BCB you can't be that poor. All the Dhaka clubs get 35 lakhs each for no reason and you can't afford to send the national team to Melb for 3 weeks even when the coach wants it? What about all those talks about BPL helping our cricket financially? You are just proving one more time that it was all for filling your pockets.

tiger_army
March 24, 2012, 07:41 PM
plz BCB arrange the three weeks condition camp in Melbourne. remember the next WC is in Aus... How much money it could cost...

zinatf
March 24, 2012, 09:25 PM
COME TO MELBOURNE TIGERS.....PRETTY PLEASE!!!

*dancing*

TIKBoss
March 24, 2012, 10:42 PM
stop dreaming guys.. it takes a lot of money to send team and all staff to melbourne for 3 weeks.. loitta would rather take his family to vacation in melbourne instead.

playmaker
March 24, 2012, 10:48 PM
I dont care relly about camps, what our boys need is more INTERNATIONAL MATCHES, thats the best way they can develop themselves....as well get a lot experience

Rifat
March 24, 2012, 10:51 PM
I like the Irish/English tour idea a lot..an A team tour to Ireland/England should suffice.

zinatf
March 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
stop dreaming guys.. it takes a lot of money to send team and all staff to melbourne for 3 weeks.. loitta would rather take his family to vacation in melbourne instead.

Who'll go to see them.....come on Mr kamal...please agree

Ajfar
March 24, 2012, 11:01 PM
Whatever happened to the 2 Test match against NZ that BCB postponed before the world cup?

zinatf
March 24, 2012, 11:18 PM
^^Yes, that's long overdue! BCB should do something about arranging a series with NZ/fitness camp rather than pleading for Asia Cup!

Be proactive in the things that we NEED

shakibrulz
March 24, 2012, 11:49 PM
Arrange matches against test playing nations FFS.

Murad
March 24, 2012, 11:57 PM
Bowlers should go to Dubai to learn how to bowl on highways.

Jonas
March 25, 2012, 12:41 AM
A one day series against Ireland in Irish/English conditions will be very exciting indeed. I personally think Ireland will beat us comfortably on green tops. Anyway, our batsmen will never learn how to play on those sort of wickets unless they gain experience. Remember, the next two world cups will be held in Australia and England.

Antora
March 25, 2012, 02:08 AM
Did I just read MELBOURNE!!!??!!!
OMG BCB LISTEN TO STUART LAW!!!! *starts jumping that the thought of BD cricketers coming to Melbourne* :D :D

CrcScientist
March 25, 2012, 02:17 AM
BCB to utilise the break by asking ACC and ICC to reverse the match decision.

BANFAN
March 25, 2012, 02:40 AM
Playing a non test playing nation now, makes no sense.... Our boys will just lose it what they gained here and we will probably suffer from complacence. We just need to play against the test playing nations. I think NZ, WI and Even Pak is ready for a series during IPL... We just need to play strong oppositions for some time and get used the standards needed at this level, before playing any non test playing nations... We run the risk of forgetting the level here...

sufism
March 25, 2012, 03:02 AM
BCB to utilise the break by asking ACC and ICC to reverse the match decision.


you are over doing it now. Overwhelming majority of BC members (including me) do not agree with what BCB is doing.....you do not see that?? why rub it in??

What are you trying to achieve??

Keep trolling

Gowza
March 25, 2012, 03:05 AM
Playing a non test playing nation now, makes no sense.... Our boys will just lose it what they gained here and we will probably suffer from complacence. We just need to play against the test playing nations. I think NZ, WI and Even Pak is ready for a series during IPL... We just need to play strong oppositions for some time and get used the standards needed at this level, before playing any non test playing nations... We run the risk of forgetting the level here...

NZ are prob below the level of what took place in the asia cup and WI despite beating australia still aren't a strong side. better to play them than associates but india, pak, sri lanka, australia, RSA, and england are better sides to play imo.

Jonas
March 25, 2012, 03:10 AM
Playing a non test playing nation now, makes no sense.... Our boys will just lose it what they gained here and we will probably suffer from complacence. We just need to play against the test playing nations. I think NZ, WI and Even Pak is ready for a series during IPL... We just need to play strong oppositions for some time and get used the standards needed at this level, before playing any non test playing nations... We run the risk of forgetting the level here...

I agree that we shouldn't play any non-test playing nation or even Zimbabwe at home with 3 SLA bowlers. We won't gain anything from that. However, playing Ireland in Irish/English conditions in May/June will be a good challenge for our batsmen.

patriot
March 25, 2012, 03:50 AM
It was learnt that coach Stuart Law expressed his desire to arrange a three-week conditioning camp in Melbourne during the off time but BCB may not consent to his idea because of the huge expense.



A chance for Mr Law to have a vacation . Will the conditioning camp help us to learn how to chase big totals under pressure ? Will it help us to score freely of Ajmal and Afridi ? No .

I understand a conditioning camp is designed to help you increase your physical fitness which include strength , agility , co-ordination and bla bla . But travelling to Melbourne , when all of these can be attained by having 7 days a week gym session at Hotel Sheraton.

Bottom line : Try to arrange some matches with New Zealand . They are in a more crap situation than us . They dont have any matches until the T20 World Cup.

fuadomar
March 25, 2012, 04:12 AM
A chance to Mr Law to have a vacation . Will the conditioning camp help us to learn how to chase big totals under pressure ? Will it help us to score freely of Ajmal and Afridi ? No .

I understand a conditioning camp is designed to help you increase your physical fitness which include strength , agility , co-ordination and bla bla . But travelling to Melbourne , when all of these can be attained by having 7 days a week gym session at Hotel Sheraton.

Bottom line : Try to arrange some matches with New Zealand . The are in a more crap situation than us . They dont have any matches until the T20 World Cup.

The motivation behind doing the conditioning camp at that time might be to avoid disruption due to rain in Bangladesh at that time;

Rifat H
March 25, 2012, 04:24 AM
National team players should get minimum 1 month rest now . They played continuous cricket so far in this year .

Then BCB can arrange few one day matches and most importantly 2-3 four day test matches against Ireland in their home condition . We can play ODI and T20 against Netherlands and Scottland also .
BCB can also arrange some longer version matches against quality English county sides if their schedule permits . That will be very useful for our players .

We can play some matches against Afghanistan too. They have some quality fast bowlers which will test our batsmen .

But most importantly we have to play . We had many conditioning camps previously which was not that useful for our players

Navo
March 25, 2012, 04:29 AM
^^ Patriot has a point - though I would like to see the boys go to Australia IF they get well-drilled in playing short pitched bowling on bouncy tracks (which I don't think Melbourne is famous for as compared to Perth but whatever) Frankly, if they went to Australia for three weeks, I'd hope they would play at least a few matches against some sort of decent Australian side - even if it isn't the full team.

In the alternative, I agree with patriot that we should send the team to NZ as their schedule is as empty as ours. I'd like to see how our flat footed boys fare against Gillespie, Martin, Southee, Vettori & co.

Ian Pont
March 25, 2012, 04:33 AM
National team players should get minimum 1 month rest now . They played continuous cricket so far in this year .

Then BCB can arrange few one day matches and most importantly 2-3 four day test matches against Ireland in their home condition . We can play ODI and T20 against Netherlands and Scottland also .
BCB can also arrange some longer version matches against quality English county sides if their schedule permits . That will be very useful for our players .

We play some matches against Afghanistan too. They have some quality fast bowlers which will test our batsmen .

But most importantly we have to play . We had many conditioning camps which was not that useful for our players

It's not as easy as that. You cannot just "arrange" matches with other countries when they have commitments already in place. the FTP (future tours programme) is designed specifically so that countries know where they are and can get rest/matches. National boards work around this, plus of course series are put in place way ahead of time.

Additionally, individual players make themselves available for T20 competitions based on the FTP, meaning that many players arrange to play first class cricket outside of their own country too.

Rather than be caught out continually by the schedules, which everyone knew 12 months ahead of time by the way, the simple thing would be to do what Jamie did and have 6-8 weeks national training camp where the players had SKILLS training. This, ahead of the NZ 4-0 Banglawash in 2010, was the main reason that result happened. So I have disagree about the conditioning camps not being useful. The secret perhaps is what you actually do in them.

Now the players have their new found belief after the BPL, and Asia Cup exploits, the skill levels of the players can be enhanced. However, whether the BCB wish to spend the money on taking the team to Dubai/Australia/elsewhere for this, or even need to if they can train at home, is a moot point.

The alternative of course, is to go to Pakistan and play the potential series while the team is still "hot". Clearly though, other factors are at play there.

Perhaps it is simply time to actually plan ahead (have a five year plan) and develop the quality of Bangladesh Cricketers to a workable system? The planning comes across as random as the performances sometimes.

Alien
March 25, 2012, 04:46 AM
What's a conditioning camp?

Alien
March 25, 2012, 04:48 AM
I dont care relly about camps, what our boys need is more INTERNATIONAL MATCHES, thats the best way they can develop themselves....as well get a lot experience

Yeah well you can't just fix matches out of the blue. Especially when BD matches don't fetch a lot of money for the other teams.

playmaker
March 25, 2012, 05:12 AM
Yeah well you can't just fix matches out of the blue. Especially when BD matches don't fetch a lot of money for the other teams.

im asking for some matches against ireland and netherlands, that will help our cause

auntu
March 25, 2012, 05:20 AM
^^^
Very good idea by Ian. But the conditioning camp out side the country would be much more interesting for the players as upcoming months will be very hot humid condition at home. Still I think tour to Ireland & Scotland would be benefited for the Tigers.

I read in Prothom ALo Law's proposal was Brisbane.

zainab
March 25, 2012, 06:15 AM
I am hoping that the BCB does not drag it's feet this time. What about the U19 players? Is'nt there supposed to be an U19 World Cup this year in Australia?

shuziburo
March 25, 2012, 11:22 AM
stop dreaming guys.. it takes a lot of money to send team and all staff to melbourne for 3 weeks.. loitta would rather take his family to vacation in melbourne instead.

It should be to visit the Melbourne cricket facilities. Then he could report to BCB about improving the BD facilities.

shuziburo
March 25, 2012, 11:27 AM
If Mr. Kamal wants a series, I am sure he can arrange one. The question is whether it would suit his long-term goals.

playmaker
March 25, 2012, 11:39 AM
If Mr. Kamal wants a series, I am sure he can arrange one. The question is whether it would suit his long-term goals.

I want a series no matter what!!!

Wanna see the iqbals, hasans, rahims, hossains, islams, mortazas, lallas and the lullas in action!

AsifTheManRahman
March 25, 2012, 12:05 PM
It doesn't matter who we play against, we just need to keep in touch and be in good shape. Playing Ireland and Scotland in their conditions could be valuable. If we're afraid of losing, then maybe we should quit cricket and concentrate on other things.

What are the benefits of a camp in Melbourne other than Stewie getting to stay close to/at home? Overkill IMO for something that can be achieved at home at much lower cost.
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Nafi
March 25, 2012, 12:47 PM
I want us to play a worthwhile series, where we have a chance to increase our ratings.

playmaker
March 25, 2012, 01:28 PM
It doesn't matter who we play against, we just need to keep in touch and be in good shape. Playing Ireland and Scotland in their conditions could be valuable. If we're afraid of losing, then maybe we should quit cricket and concentrate on other things.

What are the benefits of a camp in Melbourne other than Stewie getting to stay close to/at home? Overkill IMO for something that can be achieved at home at much lower cost.
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totally agree

Shehwar
March 25, 2012, 01:45 PM
Seriously! Can we please play anyone??? So hungry to see them in action again! Invite Afghanistan or perhaps tour Ireland ???

ransr5
March 25, 2012, 03:23 PM
i think we should call , i meant BCB should call up indian and set up some game against india in INDIAN ground. i mean sure india would be more than happy to arrange it.

al Furqaan
March 25, 2012, 04:33 PM
3 tests in ZIM might be beyond their capabilities. they only have 2 grounds.

we can host them for 3 Tests easily at SBNS, ZACS, and Fatullah or even Bogra. But 2 Tests in ZIM is enough. I'd have asked for a 5 ODI series in addition to the T20s.

Rifat
March 25, 2012, 05:10 PM
3 tests in ZIM might be beyond their capabilities. they only have 2 grounds.

we can host them for 3 Tests easily at SBNS, ZACS, and Fatullah or even Bogra. But 2 Tests in ZIM is enough. I'd have asked for a 5 ODI series in addition to the T20s.

Maybe.

I think playing Zimbabwe in Tests is the answer. After losing to them last summer, I don't think any nation will want to play us in the Test Format(Why else NZ test series got postponed?). We should make a statement if we have that ability to beat Zimbabwe in 3 consecutive test matches in a row, it will definitely be very good for our Cricket and FTP program.

al Furqaan
March 26, 2012, 11:04 AM
Maybe.

I think playing Zimbabwe in Tests is the answer. After losing to them last summer, I don't think any nation will want to play us in the Test Format(Why else NZ test series got postponed?). We should make a statement if we have that ability to beat Zimbabwe in 3 consecutive test matches in a row, it will definitely be very good for our Cricket and FTP program.

our FTP has nothing to do with that Zimbabwe loss. NZ test series keeps getting postponed because of timing...NZ has been pretty busy. I'm sure it will eventually go down as NZ also dont play that much cricket.

lamisa
March 26, 2012, 12:59 PM
bcb can't afford to send our players to aus for 3 weeks? who are they kidding?

al Furqaan
March 26, 2012, 08:26 PM
any form of international cricket should be welcomed. there is no substitute. get Ireland and Afghanistan over for a tri series or a bilateral. offer to tour Ireland. maybe sneak in a home series with zimbabwe.

max410
March 27, 2012, 04:39 AM
they need a conditional camp sooner the better

godzilla
March 27, 2012, 05:11 AM
they need a conditional camp sooner the better

Why would they want to add more test matches ahead of a T20 worldcup? I rather have them play 2 more T20 instead of adding that extra test match.

Ian Pont
March 27, 2012, 05:25 AM
There are various made up competitions like this: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/series/557921.html

and perhaps the BCB could go and find other competitive matches for the players elsewhere if they wanted to?

al Furqaan
March 27, 2012, 08:07 AM
Why would they want to add more test matches ahead of a T20 worldcup? I rather have them play 2 more T20 instead of adding that extra test match.

thats what we did for the NZ series and we exited the WC at the first opportunity. never forego any Test matches since we play so few anyways. No other team stops playing all other formats just because a world cup is coming along.

playmaker
March 27, 2012, 08:14 AM
how about bringing Dutch and Irish to comeover! Or better play in their environement as it woud be fairer and we would get accustomed to outside environment

zinatf
March 27, 2012, 08:44 AM
BCB! One NZ/SA series please :)
It's only possible for you no matter how much we fans cry...

wiseshah
March 27, 2012, 08:52 AM
A chance for Mr Law to have a vacation . Will the conditioning camp help us to learn how to chase big totals under pressure ? Will it help us to score freely of Ajmal and Afridi ? No .

I understand a conditioning camp is designed to help you increase your physical fitness which include strength , agility , co-ordination and bla bla . But travelling to Melbourne , when all of these can be attained by having 7 days a week gym session at Hotel Sheraton.

Bottom line : Try to arrange some matches with New Zealand . They are in a more crap situation than us . They dont have any matches until the T20 World Cup.

england team does conditioning camp in dubai and several other unknown cricket venue. there might be some reason

lamisa
March 27, 2012, 12:56 PM
let's ask ireland to tour us

NoName
March 27, 2012, 07:04 PM
I'd rather tour other countries, give us a few years and we might be able to dominate teams in our backyard, but we'd probably be humiliated in foreign countries (i.e India and England), and I'd rather not to see those sights. Ireland is also a good team that can probably beat us in foreign conditions, which is not good if we want to get rid of our minnow status, so its better to get accustomed to playing outside the subcontinent.

tglover
March 29, 2012, 02:33 AM
Why go to Ireland or Scotland when the conditions aren't anything like that of Zimbabwe? To me touring Kenya or South Africa would be a far better option?

playmaker
March 29, 2012, 05:08 AM
i saw in ICF forum saying that PNG might have a series with us!

Ill take it, afterall ill have a chance to see the guys in action and we can always try out enamul, arafat, zia and hom

jisaan
March 29, 2012, 05:39 AM
you are over doing it now. Overwhelming majority of BC members (including me) do not agree with what BCB is doing.....you do not see that?? why rub it in??

What are you trying to achieve??

Keep trolling

'majority' has a different meaning in Kamal/BCB's dictionary.

e.g. Ashraful gets overlooked because kamal's naati doesn't like him.... (courtesy: prothom alo)

jisaan
March 29, 2012, 05:42 AM
let's ask ireland to tour us

and get mauled by scorching heat & our barrage of SLAs!:shakibscream:

jisaan
March 29, 2012, 05:45 AM
Why go to Ireland or Scotland when the conditions aren't anything like that of Zimbabwe? To me touring Kenya or South Africa would be a far better option?

can't we go there in advance... say some 10-15 days in advance.
that seems to be the easiest solution

Umar
March 29, 2012, 09:40 AM
I cant believe Some people are so negative minded in here. Why play cricket if you think you are going to get humiliated in eng/ India conditions??? How can you support a team with that kinda mentality?

I just hope there isn't any players in the team with that kinda mentality.

Anyway.. I think we shouldn't tour any lower ranked countries. If we do visit Zimbabwe.. It should only for playing test.. To prove a point. ODI should be organised with windiest and Nz. Otherwise the quality of cricket we played last few weeks will be lost and it will dent our confidence. And if we do lose... It will just push us backward.

Mr Kamal... Please Ignore the bcci and hopes of visiting India...and organise the tour of pak like Ian Pont said. No Ireland/Dutch/Scotland standard please. Don't mind playing against afghans for couple of ODI only

playmaker
March 29, 2012, 10:40 AM
^^^
I would like the team to play series with any of the top 12 teams, the stronger the team the better