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akki_85
April 8, 2012, 09:09 AM
It's absolutely mind boggling that KKR are not playing Shakib in their XI. Very stupid selection. In current form he would be the best batsman AND bowler in the team.

Jonas
April 8, 2012, 09:25 AM
IPL selections in general are extremely biased and shows lack of planning and knowledge on the part of the coaches. Almost all the IPL teams are coached by Australian or South Africans. These coaches heavily favour players from their own state teams. For example, the Deccan Chargers' coach is Darrel Lehmann who is from South Australia. That's why they picked Daniel Harris and Daniel Christian in their starting XI.

KKR are coached by Trevor Bayliss, who is from NSW. So, we can expect Brett Lee to picked in the XI every time, even though he has been a pathetic bowler in the T20 format in the last couple of years.

If Gautam Gambhir was a more influencial and imaginative captain, thinks could've been different. But he's not, and I can't see things improving any time soon.

AMD128
April 8, 2012, 09:35 AM
Screw it, had enough. Shakib & Tamim being benched back to back games. Why? Just cuz they're Bangladeshi. It's evident now.

Tigers_eye
April 8, 2012, 09:35 AM
I think team management would be forced to put Shakib in the next game with his name echoing from every corner. The problem is not Shakib, Naraine or Ten D. The problem is Kallis and McCullum. Until one or both of them are dropped this team cannot win. Kallis is too slow, McCullum is too fast and gets out too quick.

akki_85
April 8, 2012, 09:39 AM
I think team management would be forced to put Shakib in the next game with his name echoing from every corner. The problem is not Shakib, Naraine or Ten D. The problem is Kallis and McCullum. Until one or both of them are dropped this team cannot win. Kallis is too slow, McCullum is too fast and gets out too quick.

not only that. They must play him in every match and not just "try" him in a few games and "see how he does". They are missing a gem of an allrounder.

Tehsin
April 8, 2012, 09:54 AM
LIke someone pointed out in FB, really doesn't affect Tamim or Shakib if they are benched. They have nothing to prove. The only benefit that I see is for them to get more exposure to IPL fans and the IPL fans seeing more BD players in action.

Also, turns out Shakib's other team Worcs may lose Ajmal. They got back into the first div on the back of some solid performance from Shakib two years back. He went back last year for a good season. He did not get his contract renewed for whatever reason. Now, Worcs will struggle without the two best spinners in the world. I see a pattern of teams suffering without Shakib. If you pick him, play him or and don't drop him. :)

AsifTheManRahman
April 8, 2012, 11:09 AM
They will play him and then bench him for the rest of the season if he fails in one game. Then again, he probably won't fail.
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Suhail
April 8, 2012, 11:14 AM
Well KKR is doing terribly without Shakib, so hopefully they will come to their senses. Given Shakib's current age, all-round class and temperament, KKR should make him vice-captain and groom him for captaincy in the future. It also doesn't hurt that he's Bengali. He will have support from all of West Bengal and Bangladesh.

TigerEz
April 8, 2012, 11:16 AM
kkr's next match is against rcb..so what if shakib gets bashed by gayle? then they gonna make him sit for the rest of the season.

shakibrulz
April 8, 2012, 11:34 AM
KKR can go screw themselves. Just release Shak, I'm sure plenty of Franchisees would be interested in buying him where he would make to the playing XI regularly.

shakibrulz
April 8, 2012, 11:36 AM
"Two back-to-back defeats cannot lead to pressing panic button for us and still we have to play 14 matches. So two defeats don't matter much," he added. Asked if Bangladeshi player Sakib-ul-Hassan should have been played on this wicket, Gambhir said that he would not talk about the individual players.



"It is a team game and we select the best team according to the need of the hour and such talks are good only on the hindsight. Perhaps losing three wickets in first two overs did us in and it was a dream start for the Rajasthan."

http://cricketnext.in.com/live/news/gambhir-blames-batting-for-kkrs-loss/64965-13.html

Dilscoop
April 8, 2012, 12:33 PM
Guys like I told you. Start the freaking trend. #Releaseshakib. trust me. The power of twitter solved many bigger issues in the past.

TigerEz
April 8, 2012, 12:41 PM
name one Dilscoop vai.

Navo
April 8, 2012, 12:43 PM
He's talking about the Arab Spring, protests in Iran, etc etc. I'm sure there are even more examples in the less serious sports/entertainment industry

Dilscoop
April 8, 2012, 12:49 PM
He's talking about the Arab Spring, protests in Iran, etc etc. I'm sure there are even more examples in the less serious sports/entertainment industry

From getting Betty White to Saturday Night Live to solving serious issues in the Middle East and Africa. Twitter is the 21st century 's lazy rebel system.

If you don't have a twitter sign up and start tweeting. You don't even gave to use a real email add.

Purbasha T
April 8, 2012, 01:02 PM
^ ^^ Haha, encouraging stuff! :-p

godzilla
April 8, 2012, 01:23 PM
From getting Betty White to Saturday Night Live to solving serious issues in the Middle East and Africa. Twitter is the 21st century 's lazy rebel system.

If you don't have a twitter sign up and start tweeting. You don't even gave to use a real email add.

That is if you have enough followers.

With that being said, seriously OLD MAN kALLIS did poor 2 in 2. Shakib in or no support at all!!!

Purbasha T
April 8, 2012, 01:31 PM
[বাংলা] কে কে হার, কে কে হার, কে কে হার... [/বাংলা]

Dilscoop
April 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
This is hysterical! My friend from NY just called saying he opened a twitter account specifically for shakib 's mess. Lol he was tweeting kkr and Srk. I told him to use that hastag. Couple of min later the account got suspended. Hahah kkr can't handle the heat. I saw the tweets while they were still available. He didn't abuse anyone or anything.

So you know its working. Everyone should start doing it.
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Habib
April 8, 2012, 03:13 PM
This is hysterical! My friend from NY just called saying he opened a twitter account specifically for shakib 's mess. Lol he was tweeting kkr and Srk. I told him to use that hastag. Couple of min later the account got suspended. Hahah kkr can't handle the heat. I saw the tweets while they were still available. He didn't abuse anyone or anything.

So you know its working. Everyone should start doing it.
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What's the point? Let them ignore him as much as they want. It's their team, their management, their selection. As long as they are paying Shakib's dues and not making him wash the dishes, no need to start such a campaign just to get him on their team. It'll just put unnecessary pressure on Shakib. Don't want to see an epic fail in the end and them saying- Told Ya!

Purbasha T
April 8, 2012, 03:18 PM
Habib habibi, I agree with you. :)

Ajfar
April 8, 2012, 03:34 PM
Don't want to see an epic fail in the end and them saying- Told Ya!

Thats exactly what I'm afraid of. Shakib is on top form right now and no doubt he deserves a chance to be in the playing 11. Shakib doesn't need us to fight for him, he has it all to do the talking with his performance. Some of us claiming shakib will do this or that is not going to help his cause. Because it is very much possible that shakib's form might fall apart completely when he gets picked and than we all look like bunch of whinny losers. Let shakib handle it all on his own. If he gets selected KKR will get my suppprt, if they don't than oh well its their loss.

akabir77
April 8, 2012, 04:58 PM
don't you guys see it is better for us if tamim and shakib doesn't play ipl? they need the rest which shakib him self said so let them have the paid vac and return to play for bd well rested

Maysun
April 8, 2012, 05:18 PM
KKR's mess is all down to McCullum playing in the XI. His inclusion changed the whole balance and dynamism of the team.

Dilscoop
April 8, 2012, 05:28 PM
KKR's mess is all down to McCullum playing in the XI. His inclusion changed the whole balance and dynamism of the team.

I was thinking about that too. It's the same dude who fuzzed with our Mash.

mar umpire
April 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
I hope shakib isn't selected and KKR continue to lose and get absolutely hammered this season. Then the repercussions will be greater-if shakib comes in the middle or something, they will try and use him as a scapegoat and people will forget about the incompetence of Jacques and the rest
Been disappointed with Mac-kolom but IMO if he was captain shakib would have had a greater chance of being selected than undr Mr Double G purely because the kiwis respect shakib so much

al-Sagar
April 8, 2012, 09:56 PM
LOL @ kkr MANAGEMENT ......

they are going to sink again this year .......

they have benched their best players for some mediocre ex-stars who ar no more competent these days.

cricket is all about form .... current form ...... not the old big names

Purbasha T
April 9, 2012, 10:07 AM
Lol I feel that just to piss everyone off, they'll have RtD start the next match!!

Tiger444
April 9, 2012, 11:14 AM
Lol I feel that just to piss everyone off, they'll have RtD start the next match!!

Well RTD deserves to be there as well. I really feel for the guy as well. He's a really good batsman and also bowls some useful medium pace. He should definitely be there ahead of Kallis. I doubt KKR will have the guts to drop both Kallis and Lee though.

Night_wolf
April 9, 2012, 11:22 AM
Lol I feel that just to piss everyone off, they'll have RtD start the next match!!

TBH if that was the case from the start none of us would have been pissed..RTD played really well for kkr last season and deserves to be there

what has Macculam done..other then his 1st ipl innings i dont see any significant innings from him..how long will he feed of that innings?..its worst then ash, at least he had couple match winning innings for us

AsifTheManRahman
April 9, 2012, 11:26 AM
and than we all look like bunch of whinny losers
Well, we are a bunch of whiny losers. Who cares if Shakib gets in his IPL team or not? We have the BPL now, the IPL shouldn't be as big a deal. Plus, he's the best player we have and as long as he keeps outperforming players from other countries and continues to win matches for Bangladesh, who cares if he's playing for KKR? We have the best all rounder in the world playing for us and yet we're belittling him with all this whining and begging.

Tiger444
April 9, 2012, 11:32 AM
TBH if that was the case from the start none of us would have been pissed..RTD played really well for kkr last season and deserves to be there

what has Macculam done..other then his 1st ipl innings i dont see any significant innings from him..how long will he feed of that innings?..its worst then ash, at least he had couple match winning innings for us

If it was up to me, I would have RTD, Shakib and Narine all playing. Does KKR have any other keepers besides McCullum? I don't see any besides Haddin, who isn't there. If they don't then they have no choice but to play him.

Night_wolf
April 9, 2012, 11:36 AM
If it was up to me, I would have RTD, Shakib and Narine all playing. Does KKR have any other keepers besides McCullum? I don't see any besides Haddin, who isn't there. If they don't then they have no choice but to play him.

they have bisla

Tiger444
April 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
they have bisla

Bisla's pretty awful though. The thing with McCullum is that once he gets going, he's a really dangerous batsman. So I'd keep him there. Can't say the same about Kallis though, which is why he should be out.

AsifTheManRahman
April 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
Isn't Wriddhiman Saha a wicket-keeper? Is he in the squad this year?

Tiger444
April 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
Isn't Wriddhiman Saha a wicket-keeper? Is he in the squad this year?

Nah he isn't

Night_wolf
April 9, 2012, 12:49 PM
Isn't Wriddhiman Saha a wicket-keeper? Is he in the squad this year?

he is with CSK now

Leafs PWN
April 9, 2012, 04:57 PM
KKR isn't going anywhere until they overhaul their management and coaching.

Half of these coaches don't know **** about coaching, and play their favorable players over the inform players.

Kallis wouldn't even be the opener for a BPL team. Glad we started our own league which is, so far free of this stupidity.

Doesn't hurt Shakib. He can rest up while making big bucks.

Ian Pont
April 10, 2012, 01:26 AM
The way Shakib played in the BPL semi-final showed he is a world class T20 player. He followed MVP of the entire tournament with a cracking Asia Cup. So he is clearly in form and delivering.

Why any team would want to bench this guy, as the world's best all rounder, is hard to understand.

Navo
April 10, 2012, 01:40 AM
Coach, ever since the Pakistan tour of BD (or thereabouts), his batting seems to have improved. Is it just a vein of form or has there been something substantially different about the way he bats? Have you noticed anything different about his technique for instance?

GodSachin
April 10, 2012, 03:20 AM
What's the point? Let them ignore him as much as they want. It's their team, their management, their selection. As long as they are paying Shakib's dues and not making him wash the dishes, no need to start such a campaign just to get him on their team. It'll just put unnecessary pressure on Shakib. Don't want to see an epic fail in the end and them saying- Told Ya!

this.

Thats exactly what I'm afraid of. Shakib is on top form right now and no doubt he deserves a chance to be in the playing 11. Shakib doesn't need us to fight for him, he has it all to do the talking with his performance. Some of us claiming shakib will do this or that is not going to help his cause. Because it is very much possible that shakib's form might fall apart completely when he gets picked and than we all look like bunch of whinny losers. Let shakib handle it all on his own. If he gets selected KKR will get my suppprt, if they don't than oh well its their loss.

Dude, wait, what? This is the problem with fansites, by playing within themselves the fans start to get delusional about their actual status in the grand scheme of things.

Well, we are a bunch of whiny losers. Who cares if Shakib gets in his IPL team or not? We have the BPL now, the IPL shouldn't be as big a deal. Plus, he's the best player we have and as long as he keeps outperforming players from other countries and continues to win matches for Bangladesh, who cares if he's playing for KKR? We have the best all rounder in the world playing for us and yet we're belittling him with all this whining and begging.

And this. :up:

Ian Pont
April 10, 2012, 04:21 AM
Coach, ever since the Pakistan tour of BD (or thereabouts), his batting seems to have improved. Is it just a vein of form or has there been something substantially different about the way he bats? Have you noticed anything different about his technique for instance?

When you are surrounded by other world class players (as in BPL) then you want to prove yourself. In the same way SAH wanted to do well in England.

Shakib is someone who can 'get up' for a big match but he also responds to having players at the top of their game, around him. When you start to do well it is also a habit, which is why it's a pity he has lost some momentum by not getting a game yet for KKR.

It also explains why, when surrounded by players who don't do well, he finds it harder to keep that mental drive going. If you are a good player to start with it's always easier to do well in a great team than be just as good in a poor one.

BengaliPagol
April 10, 2012, 05:12 AM
YES! SHAKIB IS PLAYING!! :-D:-D

LETS WIN THIS MATCH SHAKIB! MAKE BANGLADESH PROUD!! :flag:

akki_85
April 10, 2012, 05:20 AM
Opener Brendon McCullum and spinner Sunil Narine have been replaced by Bangladesh allrounder Shakib Al Hasan. :-D :-D

Habib
April 10, 2012, 09:00 AM
Great job whining fans. :applause: Thanks to your constant whining over the past few days, people have got the chance to ridicule Shakib. Some fans you are. :mad:
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AsifTheManRahman
April 10, 2012, 09:54 AM
Habib bhai, I agree - the way some of his fans reacted to him being left out was shameful.

In addition though, from Shakib's point of view, he has only himself to blame if he doesn't get another game for a while. The team needed him and banked on him to come in and blast away at #7 and he failed to do that. As far as he is concerned, the fact that he was made to come down the order is not an excuse. He dropped a sitter and his bowling was ridiculous although he managed to come out of the game with decent bowling stats. When your team doesn't have enough confidence in you to bat higher up the order or bowl earlier on in the game, you don't just chuck pies down the leg side or bat miserably - you do that extra little bit to ensure that you win their approval.

Now from KKR's PoV, they still haven't figured out what a winning XI should look like. If they are not going to bowl guys like Shakib and Ryan until the game is over and if they won't give them more responsibility with the bat (OK maybe Ryan's fine because they did bat him at #6), then they might as well have them sit out. They haven't figured out the XI at all, but these are early times, so we'll see.

Purbasha T
April 10, 2012, 09:57 AM
We all need to relax that's what it is, and let the people with the jobs do their jobs.

End of the module.

Navo
April 10, 2012, 10:20 AM
ATMR bhai, Shakib's 'bad day' was still better than Narine or De Lange's bad days. In fact, it was better than McCullum's bad day in the last match when he scored 2 of 4 balls.

As you said, KKR don't know what to do with the many options they have. Maybe they'll do what Danny Morrison said any play Shakib/Narine when the pitches are low and slow and RTD/De Lange when the wicket is pace-friendly.

On another note, Bisla has put McCullum's position into a bit of jeopardy. In one match he's scored more runs than Kolom did before and at a SR of 150+. He was poor behind the stumps but I don't know if he was bad enough to get dropped - especially as having an Indian WK gives KKR more international options to choose from.

oronnya
April 10, 2012, 10:25 AM
Habib bhai, I agree - the way some of his fans reacted to him being left out was shameful.

In addition though, from Shakib's point of view, he has only himself to blame if he doesn't get another game for a while. The team needed him and banked on him to come in and blast away at #7 and he failed to do that. As far as he is concerned, the fact that he was made to come down the order is not an excuse. He dropped a sitter and his bowling was ridiculous although he managed to come out of the game with decent bowling stats. When your team doesn't have enough confidence in you to bat higher up the order or bowl earlier on in the game, you don't just chuck pies down the leg side or bat miserably - you do that extra little bit to ensure that you win their approval.

Now from KKR's PoV, they still haven't figured out what a winning XI should look like. If they are not going to bowl guys like Shakib and Ryan until the game is over and if they won't give them more responsibility with the bat (OK maybe Ryan's ok because they did bat him at #6), then they might as well have them sit out. They haven't figured out the XI at all, but these are early times, so we'll see.

I completely agree. Yes we can understand there was huge amount of pressure on Shakib to perform well but the mistakes he made was silly.. I have never seen him bowling wides after wides in an over but it started since the last match of BPL and he started to bowl crap since then .. I am really dissapointed with his bowling performance. Only hope was his batting but why do you want to go for a 6 even before you have settled down and specially when you know that you are under the radar.. He could have easily rotate the strikes, take singles and hit those 6s during the last overs... And about that drop catch what to say.. we can understand that was nervousness but still it was a crime.. A player of his caliber should not miss such catch at an important stage of the game.. He was lucky to get away with it as KKR won and Balaji and others bowled extraordinarily..

Hope the 2 wickets will give him some confidence and he will come back strongly..

shakibrulz
April 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
Blast away at #7? Anyone who knows how Shakib plays wouldn't bother wasting him at 7 - he takes a few balls to settle, and after rotating the strike he starts to take off from there. Should either send him at 3 or 4 or they should use him purely as a spinner.

Awful first game by his standards, sure - but a bit unfair to blame him entirely. That drop catch surely indicates the sort of pressure he was under, especially after all that uproar about not playing him.

shakibrulz
April 10, 2012, 01:20 PM
And no, they don't have to drop Shak - they could rotate RTD for Mccullum or whoever the batsman they're planning to get in. His bowling is fairly crap.

Even an out of form Shakib could fill in for Narine and do alright (as in 7-8 RPO at worst)

mar umpire
May 10, 2012, 07:56 AM
shakib should be released and go to the UK, if he doesn't play county at least he'll be far away from SRK