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April 9, 2012, 10:58 PM
Cricinfo Time Out: Have Bangladesh Come of Age? (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/559954.html?genre=33)

Nice to see we're finally getting some attention on CI. A nice long featured discussion as well with Harsha, Siddons and Shamim!

Also check out Tamim's interview that I have posted in his Official Thread

April 9, 2012, 11:22 PM
What is a bit strange but also touching is that Siddons still refers to the Bangladesh Team as 'we'.

April 9, 2012, 11:22 PM
Nice post

April 9, 2012, 11:26 PM
why shamim there...

mar umpire
April 9, 2012, 11:33 PM
siddons was strongly involved, not surprised to hear 'we' being used. what is good is that he holds these feelings even though he has no current links. he was still coaching with multiple melanomas so i think the commitment was there

he is very straight forward, like law, hope law is given more time -liked the idea of NCL recruiting foreign players

shamim- he's no expert. better than sharafat though

April 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
^^ Shamim is also too verbose and seems to enjoy his own voice too much. He spoke over Siddons a few times. Siddons was generally more reticent but really seemed to care about Bangladesh cricket. He's still adamant that he could have built on the skills that he developed during his time in BD

April 9, 2012, 11:47 PM
Yep, regardless of his shortcomings, he backed the players (perhaps way too much) and strongly bonded with them - which reflects on the players' opinions on him.

April 9, 2012, 11:51 PM
Harsha Bhogle is really one of the great cricket commentator...

April 10, 2012, 12:49 AM
Harsha Bhogle always been awesome neutral commentator but before praising him better prepared for his harsh comments if Bangladesh didn't do well.

I think Bangladesh team I saw in Asia cup is different(in a positive way) to the previous Bangladeshi teams, more to do with attitude, BPL effect maybe?

April 10, 2012, 12:56 AM
^^ Shamim is also too verbose and seems to enjoy his own voice too much [...]

Agree with this, as would everyone else.

Just a thought: Shamim's name bring with itself a sense of negativity all the time, which is not really fair. But he did mention a couple of strong points in this episode of Time Out, and mostly said the right things. I think we can give him credit for that, no ?

April 10, 2012, 12:56 AM
Senman, I feel Harsha is generally fair and wants BD to do well. I think he also feels disappointed, like we do, when BD is inconsistent and doesn't do justice to their talent.

Yes, the attitude was very different and importantly several players clicked at the same time. That happens very rarely, with our occasional wins being dependent on sterling performances by 1-2 players (read: Shakib or Tamim in most cases)

But as this talk show addresses, we play far to little cricket for this form to be sustained. Other teams suffer from playing too much cricket and their players burn out while our players lose fitness and form because of lack of match practice!

April 10, 2012, 01:05 AM
Just a thought: Shamim's name bring with itself a sense of negativity all the time, which is not really fair. But he did mention a couple of strong points in this episode of Time Out, and mostly said the right things. I think we can give him credit for that, no ?

I've always found the kufa thing to be quite funny but personally don't believe in anything like that. I do find his commentary to border on the Shastri-esque and at times he simply mimics the vocal styles and expressions of his fellow commentators. I don't think he can ride on the fact that he speaks English well because there are so many journalists/media personalities in the country that can do that.

That being said, he has been associated with Bangladesh cricket for the last two decades and has commented in many of our historic victories, from the ICC Trophy Final to the present day. He's had a ring side seat to all the action over that time and I am sure he would be an interesting person to talk to about Bangladesh Cricket - if he is candid and open. In most occasions it doesn't seem he really is but in this talk show he did speak out a little more and, as you said, did make some good points. I hope to see that more often.

April 10, 2012, 03:42 AM
Nice one.....

But they needed to focus beyond Tamim, Shak and Mushy to get the real answer.

Ian Pont
April 10, 2012, 04:04 AM
Nice one.....

But they needed to focus beyond Tamim, Shak and Mushy to get the real answer.

I feel this has always been the issue under the previous leadership. Under the current leadership we have seen certain players left out (Rocky, Junaid) who were previously 'untouchable', we have recently seen Naeem disappear, Shuvo disappear, Imrul disappear, SN disappear and others have a chance.

The BPL really helped expose new, fresh talent in a way that the domestic system cannot. It also helped expose a few people the other way as well, who couldn't really cut it.

Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiqur are the players that must form the bedrock of the side. But it is more about developing players than simply exposing them to higher matches (as important as that is).

The great Muhammed Ali said: “The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses – behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights.”

We should all remember those words and apply them to BD cricket if we want Bangladesh to win consistently.

April 10, 2012, 04:39 AM
Good to see Siddons is still a follower of BD cricket. If possible we should bring him in as a specialist batting coach for the national team and perhaps offer him something at the Academy.

April 10, 2012, 04:43 AM
wonderful interview. Glad that Jamie's still following BD cricket. Kudos to Harsha Bhogle to especially point out the fact that India hasn't invited yet to play a test series with them.

April 10, 2012, 06:08 AM
shamim is so annoying. -_-. Other than that, great interview. Very nice to see Jamie still saying "we" :)

April 10, 2012, 11:52 AM
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April 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
Already posted and being discussed.

April 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
Already posted and being discussed.


April 10, 2012, 03:09 PM
espnCricinfo Timeout an audio cast program titled week 10th April 2012 show on recent Bangladesh Cricket devlopment.
Program also includes- Tamim Iqbal's exlusive interview and a stat analysis about Shakib-Tamim's performance for BD so far.

cricifoTimeout link (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/559954.html)

April 10, 2012, 03:11 PM
Tigers are still cubs. Need many a good show before we arrive as a senior side.

April 10, 2012, 03:15 PM
Great interview.
btw, there is an existing thread on this subject (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=40749):)

Leafs PWN
April 10, 2012, 04:43 PM
We need to play more, even if its against associate teams.

The bigger teams don't have time for us.

April 10, 2012, 04:51 PM
Gotta Love Jamie Siddons and his passion :big_hug:

April 10, 2012, 09:59 PM
Coach Siddons really does have a lot of passion for BD cricket and really admire him for that. Remember also, he took over the team when we had no world class players. He was a very good batting coach and did help our batsmen a lot.

I'm just getting tired of hearing this talk about our FC system. It's just been the same old story and it doesn't seem to be rectified. The idea of FC matches are to have them be close to Test match standard. Shakib stated that county cricket felt like playing Test matches and Enamul said that the Ranji trophy was also like playing Tests. If our FC matches are of that poor quality then how are we ever going to improve in Tests? I mean we're not even playing FC matches now because of this ridiculous DPL drama. Bottom line is that as long as we have politicians running BCB, these problems will just not be rectified.

April 11, 2012, 03:24 PM
:-X :facepalm: @ Shamim

April 11, 2012, 08:39 PM
A friend in need is a friend indeed.

Remember the days traveling to Australia. Half the team was plotting to cut lose for ICL. Siddons didn't quit then. All of sudden 5/6 months worth of work lost and had to start almost from zero again.

The problem was in the WC squad two many interference by the outsiders. Trying to include Mash (not ready), Ash (not on merit) was the downfall performance. Thus the negativity towards Siddons. Had the NZ beating team was hold on to, I think we would have done much better.