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BD Rox
May 2, 2012, 02:03 AM
Cmon Imrul proves your haters wrong! :)

Don't know why people hate him.

BengaliPagol
May 2, 2012, 02:40 AM
Don't know why people hate him.

Yeah same here. Imrul deserves his chance in my opinion. He has been doing fairly well in the domestic circuit and also in the England Lions tour. He is trying to redeem himself but seems like he is being ignored.

Tiger444
May 2, 2012, 08:40 AM
Yeah same here. Imrul deserves his chance in my opinion. He has been doing fairly well in the domestic circuit and also in the England Lions tour. He is trying to redeem himself but seems like he is being ignored.

Bhai I see your a big fan of Imrul which I respect. My opinion with Imrul is that, with his technique, he's just not going to succeed. He's just way too edgy to be a batsman, let alone a top order one. I know he got big runs in 2010 but he was very lucky a lot of times to survive. I had a feeling his luck would soon run out and it did in 2011 unfortunately. I'm no expert but his footwork, even though better then Nazim's is still below par and has trouble playing the moving balls. On top of that, his big struggle which is obvious is his strike rotation ability. He has trouble angling his bat in to the gaps to get off strike. SN and Junaid fall in the same category with Imrul which is why you see them struggling.

From what I've seen from Anamul, I believe that his overall technique is much better then the 3 I just mentioned. He looks a much smoother batsman then the other 3 which is why he should be getting a chance. If Imrul, Junaid, and SN rectified their flaws then it would be a different story but over the years, I just see them being the same batsmen.

BD Rox
May 3, 2012, 01:11 AM
Bhai I see your a big fan of Imrul which I respect. My opinion with Imrul is that, with his technique, he's just not going to succeed. He's just way too edgy to be a batsman, let alone a top order one. I know he got big runs in 2010 but he was very lucky a lot of times to survive. I had a feeling his luck would soon run out and it did in 2011 unfortunately. I'm no expert but his footwork, even though better then Nazim's is still below par and has trouble playing the moving balls. On top of that, his big struggle which is obvious is his strike rotation ability. He has trouble angling his bat in to the gaps to get off strike. SN and Junaid fall in the same category with Imrul which is why you see them struggling.

From what I've seen from Anamul, I believe that his overall technique is much better then the 3 I just mentioned. He looks a much smoother batsman then the other 3 which is why he should be getting a chance. If Imrul, Junaid, and SN rectified their flaws then it would be a different story but over the years, I just see them being the same batsmen.
With his Technique?:facepalm:
His technique is all fine. He has 1 of the best technique compared to the current XI. Despite his cover drives. Those looks so great. Nothing more to say.

RazabQ
May 3, 2012, 02:34 AM
Tiger 444, your analysis of Imrul's technique (or lack thereof) is very much spot on. But technique alone does not guarantee success and conversely lack of it (or flaws in it) does not predetermine your future. Players such as Shewag, KP, Chanderpaul all have non-traditional techniques. The key is, can you the batter, keep the good ones out more often than not. When in form, Imrul is reasonably compact and when he is focused on batting time he actually is able to minimize his propensity to chase outside off. As far as cussedness goes, he and JuSi are both capable of being bloody-minded, and you can actually survive on that and a modicum of talent (which both Imrul and Junaide possess). Let me put it this way - if Mark Richardson and Nasser Hussain could forge successful cricket careers, so can Imrul. His one area which he _HAS_ to work on is strike rotation and you've nailed that.

BengaliPagol
May 3, 2012, 03:34 AM
Bhai I see your a big fan of Imrul which I respect. My opinion with Imrul is that, with his technique, he's just not going to succeed. He's just way too edgy to be a batsman, let alone a top order one. I know he got big runs in 2010 but he was very lucky a lot of times to survive. I had a feeling his luck would soon run out and it did in 2011 unfortunately. I'm no expert but his footwork, even though better then Nazim's is still below par and has trouble playing the moving balls. On top of that, his big struggle which is obvious is his strike rotation ability. He has trouble angling his bat in to the gaps to get off strike. SN and Junaid fall in the same category with Imrul which is why you see them struggling.

From what I've seen from Anamul, I believe that his overall technique is much better then the 3 I just mentioned. He looks a much smoother batsman then the other 3 which is why he should be getting a chance. If Imrul, Junaid, and SN rectified their flaws then it would be a different story but over the years, I just see them being the same batsmen.

With his Technique?:facepalm:
His technique is all fine. He has 1 of the best technique compared to the current XI. Despite his cover drives. Those looks so great. Nothing more to say.

@Tiger444 yes im a fan of Kayes. Just as i am with Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiq, Nasir, Mortaza & Nazmul. Imrul has played some innings where he rescued Bangladesh and i feel like people have just completely forgot about it. Those innings where he rescued Bangladesh told me that has has got the ability but he just isnt consistent.

IMO i think he gets overshadowed by Tamim's presence. He needs to understand his role in the team and needs to learn to stick in the crease and rotate the strike even if Tamim hits consecutive boundaries. When Tamim starts hitting boundaries Imrul feels the need to continue hitting boundaries and he ends up edging the ball too much.

I agree with BD Rox. Kayes probably has one of the best techniques in the Bangladesh team. His cover drives are glorious to watch. Theres nothing wrong with his technique. Mindset is his biggest issue. Doesnt know what to do in different situations.

BD Rox
May 3, 2012, 05:00 AM
@Tiger444 yes im a fan of Kayes. Just as i am with Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiq, Nasir, Mortaza & Nazmul. Imrul has played some innings where he rescued Bangladesh and i feel like people have just completely forgot about it. Those innings where he rescued Bangladesh told me that has has got the ability but he just isnt consistent.

IMO i think he gets overshadowed by Tamim's presence. He needs to understand his role in the team and needs to learn to stick in the crease and rotate the strike even if Tamim hits consecutive boundaries. When Tamim starts hitting boundaries Imrul feels the need to continue hitting boundaries and he ends up edging the ball too much.

I agree with BD Rox. Kayes probably has one of the best techniques in the Bangladesh team. His cover drives are glorious to watch. Theres nothing wrong with his technique. Mindset is his biggest issue. Doesnt know what to do in different situations.

Absolutely. Totally spot on!:applause:

RazabQ
May 3, 2012, 12:15 PM
Just because someone has an attractive cover-drive does not mean his technique is good. What do you make of Shakib? He has one ugly batting style and his technique is definitely unique. But it's actually a very good technique and he has been successful with it.

Kayes has three major flaws in his technique. He plays with hard hands so that he's not good at rotating strike. He tends to get squared up at angled or moving deliveries. And, he is still indecisive against the short ball. Of these, he has worked the most on his compulsive pulling and now is reasonable agains short-pitched bowling. The 2nd piece - he's better when on form and not trying to force things. He's hopeless on the 1st one.

AsifTheManRahman
May 3, 2012, 12:28 PM
Just because someone has an attractive cover-drive does not mean his technique is good. What do you make of Shakib? He has one ugly batting style and his technique is definitely unique. But it's actually a very good technique and he has been successful with it.

Kayes has three major flaws in his technique. He plays with hard hands so that he's not good at rotating strike. He tends to get squared up at angled or moving deliveries. And, he is still indecisive against the short ball. Of these, he has worked the most on his compulsive pulling and now is reasonable agains short-pitched bowling. The 2nd piece - he's better when on form and not trying to force things. He's hopeless on the 1st one.
Those who are saying there is nothing wrong with his technique should read this. Having said that and as Razab bhai has mentioned earlier, traditional technique doesn't guarantee success. Shakib has a good technique, Imrul has an iffy one and they both have non-traditional techniques.

Imrul IMO is still ahead of the other options that we have for the #2 spot and should be persisted with in the 50 over format, at least for the time being. His form in the DPL and against England Lions has been very impressive.

BANFAN
May 3, 2012, 12:30 PM
Anamul shouldn't be a replacement of IK. He should be at # 3. Our big problem is there.

Understand IK's problems with techniques, but he is a very hardworking cricketer with not so much of talent. And we need such players, rather than lazy but gifted talents. He is absolutely fine with TI. Our opening partnership In 50 ov format, has been playing well for sometime. He shouldn't be disturbed IMO.

al Furqaan
May 3, 2012, 02:17 PM
Shakib's technique is ugly, and completely heterodox. Nothing pretty about it. Buts among the most successful (like Chanders). He rarely edges the ball, finds gaps and boundaries at will, and rarely loses control of the stroke/ball that he just played. That is what technique is all about - minimizing chances of getting out, and Shakib's technique is the "tightest" in that regard.

BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 05:40 AM
Just because someone has an attractive cover-drive does not mean his technique is good. What do you make of Shakib? He has one ugly batting style and his technique is definitely unique. But it's actually a very good technique and he has been successful with it.

Kayes has three major flaws in his technique. He plays with hard hands so that he's not good at rotating strike. He tends to get squared up at angled or moving deliveries. And, he is still indecisive against the short ball. Of these, he has worked the most on his compulsive pulling and now is reasonable agains short-pitched bowling. The 2nd piece - he's better when on form and not trying to force things. He's hopeless on the 1st one.

Imrul might get squared up at times but that doesnt mean he has a bad technique. What im trying to say is he generally has a good technque but a little tweak here and there will improve his game.

The people who play the cover drive really well generally have a good technique e.g. Sangakarra.

Tell me who has a good technique in the Bangladesh team? I would Tamim easily has the best technique. The closest would be Kayes. No one else really stands out.

Shakibs technique is unique so i wouldnt class it as a good technique but it works well for him.
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RazabQ
May 4, 2012, 10:15 AM
BengaliPagol - perhaps you have some coaching or playing cred and if so, I'll concede any arguments on technique to you :) But to me, it appears you are mixing up compactness with technique. Imrul _is_ compact. SN to give a different example, isn't. Neither is TIK. As far as prim-proper technique, Ash back in the day was technically very sound. His trying to give catching practice to first slip or orthodox point wasn't cause by lack of technique but rather the lack of a brain. From what I have have seen of him, Anamul has good technique (hence Law gushing about him). Mushy, other than dealing with extreme pace, has a very good technique. Shakib, in his own way has a good technique. Nazim is very compact too. All those guys are better than Imrul on the "technique" front. Now does having better technique than Imrul make them better candidates to partner TIK? No. Imrul is a very determined guy - and in our context that is a very important asset. In the limited overs, Imrul remains the most proven partner for Tamim and I'd go with him in limited overs and Nazim in Tests.

Tiger444
May 4, 2012, 10:45 AM
Tiger 444, your analysis of Imrul's technique (or lack thereof) is very much spot on. But technique alone does not guarantee success and conversely lack of it (or flaws in it) does not predetermine your future. Players such as Shewag, KP, Chanderpaul all have non-traditional techniques. The key is, can you the batter, keep the good ones out more often than not. When in form, Imrul is reasonably compact and when he is focused on batting time he actually is able to minimize his propensity to chase outside off. As far as cussedness goes, he and JuSi are both capable of being bloody-minded, and you can actually survive on that and a modicum of talent (which both Imrul and Junaide possess). Let me put it this way - if Mark Richardson and Nasser Hussain could forge successful cricket careers, so can Imrul. His one area which he _HAS_ to work on is strike rotation and you've nailed that.

I agree with you Razab bhai. It doesn't matter if you're the most technically sound batsman, if you don't score runs then it doesn't matter in the end. Ash is a good example of that. As we also know, subcontinental batsman have more unorthodox techniques compared to the English and Aussies but we've seen over the years that they've been equally successful.

Chanderpaul is a great example of unorthodox technique. Even though he's not in position at all before the ball is being bowled, he makes sure that right when the ball comes to him that the ball lands in the middle of the bat. That's really the key to batting really, just be in position for the ball before it's being bowled and play it to the merit of the ball.

Just because someone has an attractive cover-drive does not mean his technique is good. What do you make of Shakib? He has one ugly batting style and his technique is definitely unique. But it's actually a very good technique and he has been successful with it.

Kayes has three major flaws in his technique. He plays with hard hands so that he's not good at rotating strike. He tends to get squared up at angled or moving deliveries. And, he is still indecisive against the short ball. Of these, he has worked the most on his compulsive pulling and now is reasonable agains short-pitched bowling. The 2nd piece - he's better when on form and not trying to force things. He's hopeless on the 1st one.

Shakib's a great example of how to also succeed despite not having the most orthodox technique. He relies purely on hand eye coordination to score his runs. It's the way he knows how to score and boy is he successful in doing it. Thing is, Shakib's a 1 of a kind talent and you'll see many players won't just get away with it.

As always Razab bhai, you hit the nail on the head with Imrul's technical issues. You see that most of the time, he either just blocks or throws his hands at deliveries. You don't see many times where he drops and runs or carves it away in to the gaps for 1s and 2s. That's a very important part of batting and even top order batsmen, NEED TO ROTATE.

The problem with Imrul is unlike Shakib or Chanderpaul, he doesn't get in to position in the line of the ball in time enough and hence you see all his edges from the bat and you see him famously being known as "Kaedge." That's something he really needs to work on in order to improve his game or else he'll continue to struggle. This is why I said with his technique, he won't succeed. I don't want to be harsh because I want all players that don the red and green to do well but he has a lot of work to do in order to be at the level or guys like Tamim and Shakib. The question is will he make improvements on his batting? I really haven't seen it from him because I still see the same edging and strike rotation issues that's hindered him since he came in to the national team but I really hope he does because it would make our top order better.

RazabQ
May 4, 2012, 03:52 PM
Split this apart because the thread was about FC cricket whereas we were engaged in a discourse on IK's batting technique

Dilscoop
May 4, 2012, 04:46 PM
People dont hate him. Hate is a strong word. He is just not as popular as the other guys. And I think that has lot to do with his personality. He comes out as a boring person. Also his batting style doesn't help either.

BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 07:37 PM
Imrul is a built person which is a rarity among BD players.

Funny thing is when i search another BD player on google images besides Shakib there is always a picture of Shakib. :lol:

22Yards
May 4, 2012, 08:22 PM
I am just happy to see all those bits and pieces players who used to be so sure about their place in the XI are now feeling the heat of the performing young guns like anamul.

mar umpire
May 4, 2012, 08:48 PM
Those who are saying there is nothing wrong with his technique should read this. Having said that and as Razab bhai has mentioned earlier, traditional technique doesn't guarantee success. Shakib has a good technique, Imrul has an iffy one and they both have non-traditional techniques.

Imrul IMO is still ahead of the other options that we have for the #2 spot and should be persisted with in the 50 over format, at least for the time being. His form in the DPL and against England Lions has been very impressive.

I think these are good analyses (BANFAN the second one, I totally agree), can't really disagree here. DIlscoop has a point regarding the attractiveness of a player

"Anamul shouldn't be a replacement of IK. He should be at # 3. Our big problem is there.

Understand IK's problems with techniques, but he is a very hardworking cricketer with not so much of talent. And we need such players, rather than lazy but gifted talents. He is absolutely fine with TI. Our opening partnership In 50 ov format, has been playing well for sometime. He shouldn't be disturbed IMO."

Zunaid
May 4, 2012, 08:56 PM
Good discussion here. Contrast that with the poll BangaliPagol has been running. The mob opted for Anamul at 2 and so had to settle for JI at 3. TI-IK-AH is a stronger team than TI-AH-JI.

I like Imrul's compactness. If only he could soften his hands.

mar umpire
May 4, 2012, 09:06 PM
Use vaseline perhaps? Or Keya moisturiser if the ads are to be believed

Zunaid
May 4, 2012, 09:12 PM
Use vaseline perhaps? Or Keya moisturiser if the ads are to be believed

Funny man. We don't want him chaffed do we?

BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 09:22 PM
Good discussion here. Contrast that with the poll BangaliPagol has been running. The mob opted for Anamul at 2 and so had to settle for JI at 3. TI-IK-AH is a stronger team than TI-AH-JI.

I like Imrul's compactness. If only he could soften his hands.

I think Tamim and Imrul's mindsets and compactness are similar. Imrul definitely needs to learn to rotate strike. Tamim does rotate the strike when he is batting in the middle overs of the game. Imrul needs to learn that.

Maysun
May 5, 2012, 12:54 AM
He may not have a very good technique, but it's atleast better compared to the others in the lineup and moreover, he scored runs when he played alongside Tamim in the ODI's and that's the most important aspect. Plus he has a temperament of a hardworker, seems determined to prove himself.

Gowza
May 5, 2012, 01:39 AM
imrul is solid imo, maybe his edgey play is less to do with technique and more to do with picking up the ball or reading it. he did score runs in ODis, but let's just forget discussing him for tests, 32 innings and just 1 score over 50.

Sohel
May 5, 2012, 03:36 AM
I feel both Imrul and Imroze don't belong at this level because of their inability to correct rectifiable mistakes seen over the past 5 years! Instead, I'd go with (in tests and ODIs):

1. Tamim

2. B. Joy

3. Mominul

4. Riyad (tests, FORCE him to bat here)/Shakib (ODIs)

That being said, I'm not at all sure that either Mominul or in the near future Ratul can sustain success at the highest level. Hannan Sarkar, Nafis Iqbal, Aftab, Mofees and most recently Aumi sure couldn't, but I'd like to see the youngsters try. Other allegedly top order guys like Kohlimuddin, Kohlim Saleh and Kohlimul Hasan should never have been selected in the first place so their inevitable failure didn't disappoint me a bit.

BD Rox
May 5, 2012, 03:49 AM
Yeah same here. Imrul deserves his chance in my opinion. He has been doing fairly well in the domestic circuit and also in the England Lions tour. He is trying to redeem himself but seems like he is being ignored.
Bhai, you seemed to have even change your Avatar, and that's Imrul. You're a desperate supporter of Imrul. BD needs some supporters like you for every playa.
I really like your posts, man. Keep it up. I'm with ya, mate.
Go Imrul!
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mar umpire
May 5, 2012, 04:53 AM
Funny man. We don't want him chaffed do we?

Nah we don't
I was wondering more along the lines it might help Shahadat finally reverse the ball, or preserve the ball's shine-trescothick would recommend mentos (but that's hardly someone would wipe on their hands for softening), others would recommend stepping on it

or even biting it-but again nothing can be used as an alibi by imrul for his hands (pretty sure the ball isn't reinforced with vitamin E although afridi might think otherwise)

Isnaad
May 5, 2012, 05:32 AM
I echo Dilscoop's words.

Sohel
May 5, 2012, 06:00 AM
People dont hate him. Hate is a strong word. He is just not as popular as the other guys. And I think that has lot to do with his personality. He comes out as a boring person. Also his batting style doesn't help either.

I'd say it's the unfortunate combination of his:

1) Streaky, fish-out-of-water batting against quality pace bowlers (luck WILL run out eventually and it probably has already).

2) Personality that feels like Golla-Rajin-Rokibul-Myshukur batting on morphine.

3) Stonefully numb expression on a Meherpuri face perfectly complimenting that docile, clerical personality.

That's pretty much everything, but you're right, "hate" is way too strong a word. I reserve that for those who continue to select weak links for our national team. I long for the day Bangladesh fields a full strength team and not the customary 3 or 4 (if we're lucky) trying to lift rest of the traditional dead weight.

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 05:14 PM
Bhai, you seemed to have even change your Avatar, and that's Imrul. You're a desperate supporter of Imrul. BD needs some supporters like you for every playa.
I really like your posts, man. Keep it up. I'm with ya, mate.
Go Imrul!
:flag:

Thanks for the support bro.

I love Kayes.

He might have some technical difficulties in his batting but when i watch him bat i watch a classy batsmen in action. Or maybe its just me...

To me Kayes is way ahead of Siddique. He is ahead of most of the team in terms of technique. He has the technique to propel him thru international its just a matter of improving his game and learning. And i think his recent form suggest he should be given another chance in the national team.
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simon
May 5, 2012, 05:52 PM
Me no big fan of Kaedge, but when it comes to ODIs then Kaedge is undoubtedly our 2nd best opener.
Junaid is perfect for Tests & should also play T20s.

Dilscoop
May 5, 2012, 06:13 PM
Nice avatar Pagol.

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 07:02 PM
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

:bravo:

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 07:04 PM
Thanks Dil.

mar umpire
May 5, 2012, 08:34 PM
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

:bravo:

I like kayes. Still think after tamim he's the best opener we've had

Rubu
May 5, 2012, 08:53 PM
Imrul is one of the 'ugly' cricketers, who does not look stylish in play or shows the charm.

Way too many people digs for those and I think those are the people who do not like him. But he does the work better than many other in and in my opinion deserves better treatment.

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 09:40 PM
Imrul is one of the 'ugly' cricketers, who does not look stylish in play or shows the charm.

Way too many people digs for those and I think those are the people who do not like him. But he does the work better than many other in and in my opinion deserves better treatment.

IMO to me he doesnt look like an ugly cricketer. He either blocks or hits hard. Just doesnt rotate strike. He probably picks that up from Tamim. He plays an honest brand of cricket. Doesnt go cross bat to everything. Play well on the off side. Starts timing the ball beautifully when he gets going.

Lets remember the good times shall we?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNvKlmTLVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNvKlmTLVw)

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BD Rox
May 6, 2012, 07:33 AM
Thanks for the support bro.

I love Kayes.

He might have some technical difficulties in his batting but when i watch him bat i watch a classy batsmen in action. Or maybe its just me...

To me Kayes is way ahead of Siddique. He is ahead of most of the team in terms of technique. He has the technique to propel him thru international its just a matter of improving his game and learning. And i think his recent form suggest he should be given another chance in the national team.
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I know. It's very true.
Talking about Siddique, his technique is just terrible. The way he plays shots is horrible.:facepalm:

BD Rox
May 6, 2012, 07:35 AM
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

:bravo:
Thanks bro. Keep it up.
Fight till you die!

M.H.Rubel
May 6, 2012, 07:49 AM
Split this apart because the thread was about FC cricket whereas we were engaged in a discourse on IK's batting technique

Razab Vai this is a good job.A healthy discussion was going on about IMRUL.It was a good idea to make it a different thread.Some of the posts are realy nice analytical and healthy.

RazabQ
May 6, 2012, 11:29 AM
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes
There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox
:bravo:
And this is the only group that bugs me!:facepalm: Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

zinatf
May 6, 2012, 11:32 AM
And this is the only group that bugs me!:facepalm: Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

Bhaia thak ja korar korte den...bole ki labh...

BengaliPagol
May 6, 2012, 04:14 PM
And this is the only group that bugs me!:facepalm: Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

You guys make it seem like he has a bad technique when he doesnt. No one in the Bangladesh team has a great technique.
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BANFAN
May 6, 2012, 04:22 PM
IMO to me he doesnt look like an ugly cricketer. He either blocks or hits hard. Just doesnt rotate strike. He probably picks that up from Tamim. He plays an honest brand of cricket. Doesnt go cross bat to everything. Play well on the off side. Starts timing the ball beautifully when he gets going.
.......

:flag:

Everything is fine.... But he only keeps giving continuous tension of edging the next ball.... That's the flaw of his technique... And that's why he is Kaedge.... :)

But I do want him to continue in the team, opening with Tamim. Because he has given much better result in partnership with Tamim, than anyone else.... We don't have a replacement ready yet...for ODIs.

But for tests, I think there are a couple of contenders...

simon
May 6, 2012, 05:11 PM
count me in guys, I join your club (but only for ODIs, okay? )
I love KAedge in ODIs ,he is in my blood stream, in my heart bit (hridoyer spondon) :bighug:

oronnya
May 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
count me in guys, I join your club (but only for ODIs, okay? )
I love KAedge in ODIs ,he is in my blood stream, in my heart bit (hridoyer spondon) :bighug:

he he same here.. my full support for Imrul in ODIs !!!

BengaliPagol
May 7, 2012, 04:34 AM
Kayes just hasnt proved himself in the test arena yet. There are other worthy/capable batsmen that can fill the void as test openers such as Nazim or Anamul so i wont bother about Imrul in the test arena.

I would give Imrul a permanent spot in the ODI's. Let him bring his confidence back. He will start to perform if he solely concentrates on ODI's. This will allow him to finetune his technique according to the ODI arena. Then hopefully he will no longer be 'Kaedge'. This will lessen his pressure.

I just feel like he will bring much more to the Bangladesh team if he is in the ODI team.

Tests
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin/Anamul Haque
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

ODI's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

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playmaker
May 7, 2012, 06:19 AM
To be honest technique is something not to be bothered to much. If Imrul wants to be in the league of chanderpaul, hayden, jayasuria he HAS TO WORK hard. He may have been ignored but lets face it, there are people named Jamie Siddons and Brad Hodge, these guys were very good cricketers but they hardly played much intl cricket because Aus had so many batsman already. Look at indian team, guys lke tiwary and rahane have been sidelined for some time because they already have class players

Imrul has to work hard without question and show some determination to become better and better. Otherwise he will remain in the shadow

BD Rox
May 7, 2012, 06:47 AM
Kayes just hasnt proved himself in the test arena yet. There are other worthy/capable batsmen that can fill the void as test openers such as Nazim or Anamul so i wont bother about Imrul in the test arena.

I would give Imrul a permanent spot in the ODI's. Let him bring his confidence back. He will start to perform if he solely concentrates on ODI's. This will allow him to finetune his technique according to the ODI arena. Then hopefully he will no longer be 'Kaedge'. This will lessen his pressure.

I just feel like he will bring much more to the Bangladesh team if he is in the ODI team.

Tests
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin/Anamul Haque
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

ODI's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

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Dude now why bring in Nazimuddin? I'm a pure hater of Nazimuddin.:down:

M.H.Rubel
May 7, 2012, 07:00 AM
Dude now why bring in Nazimuddin? I'm a pure hater of Nazimuddin.:down:

Despite having lot of deficiencies still Nazimuddin is a top class longerversion player.With a good FC record.

playmaker
May 7, 2012, 07:01 AM
I dont understand why all this HATRED? I know he messed up big time but at the end of the day he is just a player and I think he tried what he could do but he was under a huge amount of pressure to perform.

On the other hand u could blame shahadat for his sheer arrogance and also his retarded attitude esp. in that interview

playmaker
May 7, 2012, 07:03 AM
Despite having lot of deficiencies still Nazimuddin is a top class longerversion player.

If Nazimuddin is top class than that means our standards are absolutely low.

Just because he scored like 140 runs in 4 innings mean nothing. If he scored 140 in each of the 4 innings or even half of it then Id take him as a top class player

M.H.Rubel
May 7, 2012, 07:17 AM
TESTS:Basically Kayes is not a gifted player,and he dont have thatmuch ability to play in as test opener.Neither he have good technique nor good hand eye co-ordination.So he should ne be selected in tests till his improvement.
LIMITED OVER:Currently this is the only arena where he can be tried.But he need to improve lot of things.My suggestions:
1.To improve his edgyness first he need to improve his ball selection outside off stump.
2.Lot of work needed in foot movement and timing.
All the points are going against him still he is the 2nd best opener from our lot.
I have a feeling that he will do better in #3 than #2 as the ball will be a bit older.

BengaliPagol
May 7, 2012, 07:18 AM
If Nazimuddin is top class than that means our standards are absolutely low.

Just because he scored like 140 runs in 4 innings mean nothing. If he scored 140 in each of the 4 innings or even half of it then Id take him as a top class player

He meant that he is a specialist test player. And thats how he should be. Nazim should stay well away from odi's and he didnt do that badly against pakistan.
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M.H.Rubel
May 7, 2012, 08:07 AM
He meant that he is a specialist test player. And thats how he should be. Nazim should stay well away from odi's and he didnt do that badly against pakistan.
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Spot on.Thanks for the explanation

playmaker
May 7, 2012, 10:53 AM
Spot on.Thanks for the explanation

He meant that he is a specialist test player. And thats how he should be. Nazim should stay well away from odi's and he didnt do that badly against pakistan.
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Despite having lot of deficiencies still Nazimuddin is a top class longerversion player.With a good FC record.

This explains otherwise.

A good FC record changes nothing, Nazimddin has gotten many chances and has failed considerably. Apart from that one 50 he has done nothing. Many people are acting like he is a player f the caliber of cook or something similar. IMO, guys like JS and IK and even Nafees are better than nazimudding

RazabQ
May 7, 2012, 11:43 AM
Sigh! KDPP ...

Sohel
May 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
It's interesting in a sad, S.A.D way that too many of the club/mauholla cricket matobbors running our Board and making decisions also feel the same way as quite a few of the posters here. This explains why we've never fielded a team with more than 5 capable players, let alone a full strength team with players who may have the ability to actually sustain success at the highest level of the game. That level, the last time I checked, isn't the deprioritized picnic we call the NCL. It's always irritating to hear some Indian fans whine about not fielding a "full strength side" (no Zaheer, no Bhajji, No Yuvi, whine, whine whine) AS IF WE EVER HAVE!!!

Thanks guys, keep it up. Let's continue to have weak links in the team because the team is obviously the place for the Mohammed "Exquisite Timing/ Top Class" Kohlimuddins of the world to "sort out issues" ... sigh.

Tests: 31, 78, 0, 12 ... caught, caught, LBW, bowled. Think context (pitch, condition, bowling, nature of dismissal in relation to match situation and quality of the delivery etc).

ODIs: 11, 20, 2, 1, 6, 47, 3, 30, 5, 6, 16 ... LBW, caught, caught, caught, caught, run out, caught, caught, caught, bowled, caught. Think context (pitch, condition, bowling, nature of dismissal in relation to match situation and quality of the delivery etc).

T20Is: 43 (dud-bhat match), 81 (dud-bhat match), 1, 0, 11, 0, 42 ... caught, bowled, caught, LBW, caught, LBW, caught. Think context (pitch, condition, bowling, nature of dismissal in relation to match situation and quality of the delivery etc).

What am I missing here???