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BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 09:32 PM
Mother Thread: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518076#post1518076

Which 3 pacers do you think should bowl there way into the Bangladesh team?

Do you think Rubel's fiery pace with the bowling of Shafiul & Mashrafe should be in the team or the line & length of Nazmul mixed with Shahadat and Abul Hasan should be the pace attack for Bangladesh?

Please choose 3 options from the poll above. If you vote more or less than 3 times then your vote will not be counted.

Abdur Razzak has recently been inducted into the BanglaCricket XI

Discuss.

Zunaid
May 4, 2012, 09:37 PM
I have three clear favorites here. Mash, Rubel, and Nazmul. I don't know enough about the youngsters to see if they can replace any of the above. Shafiqul needs to buff up and up his pace a fee clicks before he can be reconsidered.

BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 09:38 PM
Damn spelt Abu Jayed wrong. :facepalm:

Gowza
May 4, 2012, 09:49 PM
with everyone fit mash, rubel and nazmul are the clear picks imo. but rubel is injured atm and out for awhile.....mash is injury prone....

rasel just hasn't comeback to what he was after the injuries which is a shame because he was a terrific bowler before the injuries. shafiul just hasn't really developed much and he doesn't really have many weapons. shahadat for all the potential he has just hasn't developed either, in fact he's gone backwards, way way backwards.

out of the others.....al-amin and abu jayed have had awesome results so far. abul hasan is being touted as a great prospect with pace. kamurl has been hyped for awhile. alauddin bowled with abul in u19s, he can bat a bit also. i just haven't really seen much of these guys.

oronnya
May 4, 2012, 09:57 PM
Mash, Rubel and Nazmul are auto choice !!!

(given that we will never be lucky enough to get all 3 of them fit at the same time I would put Abul Hasan and Al Amin`s name there as reserve)

Gowza
May 4, 2012, 10:02 PM
Mash, Rubel and Nazmul are auto choice !!!

(given that we will never be lucky enough to get all 3 of them fit at the same time I would put Abul Hasan and Al Amin`s name there as reserve)

i think you've probably got it right with the reserves. abul and al-amin need to be developed but they are probably the 2 best prospects atm.

BengaliPagol
May 4, 2012, 10:09 PM
Mashrafe - Economy rate
Rubel - Fiery, pace
Nazmul - Line and length

Mashrafe, Rubel, Nazmul are the automatic choices but the thing that is left out is a genuine wicket taking bowler. The closest wicket taking bowler we have would either be Rubel (because of his pace) or Nazmul.

The thing im impressed about Nazmul is that he tends to pick up early wickets which is what we have sorely missed for about 1 or 2 years.

Gowza
May 4, 2012, 10:12 PM
Mashrafe - Economy rate
Rubel - Fiery, pace
Nazmul - Line and length

Mashrafe, Rubel, Nazmul are the automatic choices but the thing that is left out is a genuine wicket taking bowler. The closest wicket taking bowler we have would either be Rubel (because of his pace) or Nazmul.

The thing im impressed about Nazmul is that he tends to pick up early wickets which is what we have sorely missed for about 1 or 2 years.

i believe before his injury rubel had developed into a wicket taking bowler in ODIs, and i also noticed nazmul has a knack for picking up early wickets which is very important.

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 12:47 AM
Since its obvious the lineup is going to be Rubel, Mashrafe, Nazmul i wonder who should replace Rubel since he is injured. I would give young Abul Hasan a go. I really dont want to see Shafiul or Shahadat bowl.

oronnya
May 5, 2012, 01:11 AM
Since its obvious the lineup is going to be Rubel, Mashrafe, Nazmul i wonder who should replace Rubel since he is injured. I would give young Abul Hasan a go. I really dont want to see Shafiul or Shahadat bowl.

or Al Amin may be !!

Gowza
May 5, 2012, 01:13 AM
Since its obvious the lineup is going to be Rubel, Mashrafe, Nazmul i wonder who should replace Rubel since he is injured. I would give young Abul Hasan a go. I really dont want to see Shafiul or Shahadat bowl.

yeah not shafiul or shahadat, i think either abul hasan or al amin.

Ajfar
May 5, 2012, 01:15 AM
Damn spelt Abu Jayed wrong. :facepalm:

Is it just me or is everone in BC is going crazy with this facepalm emotion?

BengaliPagol
May 5, 2012, 03:29 AM
Is it just me or is everone in BC is going crazy with this facepalm emotion?

Its addictive

zinatf
May 5, 2012, 03:52 AM
I think it's too early to comment on the third pacer...that's why I have chosen other....

mar umpire
May 5, 2012, 05:00 AM
I have three clear favorites here. Mash, Rubel, and Nazmul. I don't know enough about the youngsters to see if they can replace any of the above. Shafiqul needs to buff up and up his pace a fee clicks before he can be reconsidered.

Those three would be my picks currently although abul hasan (might have got the name wrong) was favoured by law and he didn't get selected-apparently he's pretty quick

Pretty surprised by rubel's sudden spate of injuries, I thought his action looked different a few months back.

Roey Haque
May 5, 2012, 05:55 AM
I voted Mash, Ruby, and Shafiul.

Nazmul's action is weak and I cannot trust it over the long term.

Zunaid
May 5, 2012, 06:04 AM
Is it just me or is everone in BC is going crazy with this facepalm emotion?

:facepalm: you should know better.

kalpurush
May 5, 2012, 06:42 AM
RBX
Raju
Al-Amin

The future of Tigers.

BengaliPagol
May 7, 2012, 04:14 AM
Mashrafe just edges everyone out else as the 'most popular pace bowler'. But the bowlers Rubel, Mashrafe and Nazmul seem to be everyone assumption for the pace attack.

The combination of Mashrafe, Rubel & Nazmul adds alot of balance to the bowling department. The 3 bowlers are completely different bowlers to each other and should work well together.

oronnya
May 7, 2012, 08:59 AM
Mashrafe just edges everyone out else as the 'most popular pace bowler'. But the bowlers Rubel, Mashrafe and Nazmul seem to be everyone assumption for the pace attack.

The combination of Mashrafe, Rubel & Nazmul adds alot of balance to the bowling department. The 3 bowlers are completely different bowlers to each other and should work well together.

Right :up::up:

playmaker
May 7, 2012, 10:47 AM
The day we have few pitches for intl and local matches which are good for pace bowling, from that day onwards we will be able to produce quality pacers

shuziburo
May 7, 2012, 11:15 AM
Mash, Rubel, and Nazmul.

If any is injured, we can try anyone except Shahadat (and perhaps Shafiul in his current form).

BengaliPagol
May 8, 2012, 01:45 AM
Better question. Would you rather want Shafiul, Abul Hasan or Shahadat? Would you give Shahadat a second chance?

Dilscoop
May 8, 2012, 01:50 AM
I haven't been voting on these, but I had to on this one. Nazmul over Shafiul from now on please! That skinny boy should go eat first. He hasn't got a clue. I can't bare seeing the 2 clueless kids (Rubel and Shafiul) touch the new ball anymore!

Nazmul and Mashrafe the 2 sr. pacers with Rubel. Simple.

Gowza
May 8, 2012, 01:54 AM
Better question. Would you rather want Shafiul, Abul Hasan or Shahadat? Would you give Shahadat a second chance?

no shahadat, he's going to have to prove himself for at least a couple of years domestically, and not just taking wickets, they need to watch him and see whether he's improving.

the way i see shafiul, he's the same as he was when he first debuted, as a debutant he was promising but he hasn't developed at all which just means he's now a very mediocre bowler. he's a good back-up if we don't have any solid experienced pacers or if we have no promising youngsters but since we have abul, abu and al-amin then we should choose those options over shafiul for now.

Tiger444
May 10, 2012, 09:40 AM
No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.

BD Rox
May 10, 2012, 02:56 PM
No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.
Damn well said!:):up::flag:

BD Rox
May 10, 2012, 03:00 PM
No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.
But, our spot light should be on the spinners, as long as we don't produce a bouncy fast bowling track. Spinners have been dominating for the last decade. We need damn fast bowler who can bowl at an average speed of 140km/h.

Gowza
May 10, 2012, 04:30 PM
But, our spot light should be on the spinners, as long as we don't produce a bouncy fast bowling track. Spinners have been dominating for the last decade. We need damn fast bowler who can bowl at an average speed of 140km/h.

apparently abul can bowl 140+ consistently.

BengaliPagol
May 11, 2012, 09:15 PM
By clear margins im proud to announce that Mashrafe Mortaza, Rubel Hossain and Nazmul Hossain have all been given a spot into the BanglaCricket XI.

The no. 5 batsmen poll will be up and running soon.

:flag:

BengaliPagol
May 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
This is the BanglaCricket XI so far...

1. Tamim Iqbal - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=40833)
2. Anamul Haque - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=40833)
3. Jahurul Islam - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...74#post1518074 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518074#post1518074)
4. Shakib Al Hasan - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...26#post1520726 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520726#post1520726)
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8. Mashrafe Mortaza - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)
9. Abdur Razzak - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...75#post1518075 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518075#post1518075)
10. Nazmul Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)
11. Rubel Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)

Tipu606
May 11, 2012, 09:34 PM
we need a bowler who can also bowl an inswinger and a yorker

BengaliPagol
May 11, 2012, 09:45 PM
we need a bowler who can also bowl an inswinger and a yorker

Rubel Hossain?

Tipu606
May 15, 2012, 11:11 PM
i was thinking about Nazmul Hussain who removed the Sri Lankan top order with his brilliant inswingers in the Asia Cup 2012 BD vs Sri Lanka

BengaliPagol
May 16, 2012, 04:48 AM
Rubel is the only one who bowls yorkers.

TimAus
May 16, 2012, 06:14 AM
Well if the other 3 in that team aren't Rahim, Mahmuddulah and Nasir Hossain then there's something wrong. Personally I rate Shafiul fairly highly although injuries seem to be his main problem right now. I remember a few years ago his ODI economy rate was over 7, now it's about 5.5 and he's getting wickets too.

BengaliPagol
May 16, 2012, 06:54 AM
For me Shafiul hasnt developed overly well. He is also inconsistent. I rated him highly when he first started playing but not anymore.

TimAus
May 17, 2012, 04:21 AM
For me Shafiul hasnt developed overly well. He is also inconsistent. I rated him highly when he first started playing but not anymore.

I think that his development has been slowed because of injuries and nothing else. Against NZ a while back he was excellent and he hasn't been bad since but every time he bowls a good game he seems to miss the next. Given a year of constant cricket I think you'll see a massive improvement.

Tiger444
May 17, 2012, 08:08 AM
Even though Shafiul is a very inconsistent bowler and many of us, including me, get frustrated with him for his expensive bowling, he's still a guy that we need to develop further. An important statistic to show here is that, in the games we've won against the Test playing nations in ODI's, his average is a 23.33 with an economy rate of a 4.56 which shows how crucial he has been in our wins. His average and economy rate are higher then Nazmul's and no I'm not saying Shafiul's a better bowler overall but again we shouldn't drop a guy who has played a crucial part in ours wins. His pace is also pretty good. He does need to work on his control which I'm sure he is working on with the coaches. Once he can get that down, I can see him being a very good pacer at the international level. The key is patience and support with Shafiul and I'm sure he'll be fine.

al Furqaan
May 17, 2012, 12:32 PM
For limited overs matches, its obvious. We need Mashrafee and Nazmul to open, with Rubel bowling first change.

In tests, we might as well field all SLAs because none of our pacers can take wickets.

TimAus
May 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
In tests, we might as well field all SLAs because none of our pacers can take wickets.

I think Bangladesh should look at Sri Lanka and what they have done in tests. I don't think there is any evidence to say Lakmal and Welegedara are any better than any player in Bangladesh but Sri Lanka have still been able to take 20 wickets in test matches. They rely mostly on spin like Bangladesh but their pace bowlers get the most out of themselves. The main fast bowlers mentioned on this thread (Mortaza, Rubel, Nazmul, Shafiul, Shahadat etc) are good enough to bowl line and length with subtle movement. It is discipline that will get them wickets and also build pressure for the spinners who are world class. Just look at the job Tim Bresnan did for England yesterday. He didn't get a wicket but he always built pressure bowling at just 130km/h.

Rifat
May 17, 2012, 11:36 PM
I think Bangladesh should look at Sri Lanka and what they have done in tests. I don't think there is any evidence to say Lakmal and Welegedara are any better than any player in Bangladesh but Sri Lanka have still been able to take 20 wickets in test matches. They rely mostly on spin like Bangladesh but their pace bowlers get the most out of themselves. The main fast bowlers mentioned on this thread (Mortaza, Rubel, Nazmul, Shafiul, Shahadat etc) are good enough to bowl line and length with subtle movement. It is discipline that will get them wickets and also build pressure for the spinners who are world class. Just look at the job Tim Bresnan did for England yesterday. He didn't get a wicket but he always built pressure bowling at just 130km/h.

welcome to our forum :) YES! you are 100% spot on. This is how Nazmul Hossain is so successful he has discipline , the other Bangladeshi bowlers are good but they lack discipline many times(hence why they are too expensive, and nobody is really express pace to be that threatening either) even if someone was pace threatening, someone like let's say Rubel Hossain, the international bullies who has to deal with him faces those types of bowlers in their sleep(Every country has at least one express pace bowler). so yeah, Discipline is KEY!

The real reason behind Bangladesh's lack of success in Tests compared to ODI's is that we never really pose/post a threatening total to contend/stretch the opposition. This is the main reason why we never(or very rarely) take 20 wickets! Our Opponents never feel the pressure, which is the key factor here. When was the last time Bangladesh posted over 400? I feel like we should play Zimbabwe in at least two test matches very very soon? Playing Zimbabwe won't be a bad idea...