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BengaliPagol
May 11, 2012, 09:31 PM
Mother Thread: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...76#post1518076 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518076#post1518076)

Who do you think should bat at no. 5 for Bangladesh in ODI's?

The no. 5 batsman is the rock of the middle order. He must be able to either restore an innings or continue to build it. He should be confident in playing spin and be able to play on wearing pitches (often it is them who need to carry a side over the line). The no.5 takes a real anchor role in the team.

So who do you think should fill this role for Bangladesh?

Discuss.
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Gowza
May 11, 2012, 11:53 PM
i think right here is where we decided whether riyad has a spot in the team and possibly if nasir has the #7 spot.

riyad just can't bat at #6 or #7 in one-dayers, i think most people what rahim at #6, #7 is to low for him and he's a good finisher so #6 is best for him. i'd like to see nasir higher up the order at #5, but he's probably thes best #7 BD has....sabbir is really the only other option i see for #7 because we don't need another pacer and he bowls spin and he can hit the ball from the get go or play a bit of a longer innings as he has the potential to be a specialist batsman. but is sabbir ready? if not we are better off at putting nasir at #7 and having riyad or mominul or even shuvagata at #5.

BengaliPagol
May 12, 2012, 12:17 AM
Here onwards is going to be interesting. I think the player that will bat at no. 5 will win the vote by a small margin.

Dilscoop
May 12, 2012, 01:07 AM
I don't like this. I want Shakib at 5.

BengaliPagol
May 12, 2012, 01:10 AM
^^ What ever makes you happy?

Dilscoop
May 12, 2012, 01:16 AM
People already chose him for #4. Rahim belongs at 4.

ahnaf
May 12, 2012, 01:21 AM
Shakib isnt even in the list? Thread Fail..
This spot is permanent for Shak..
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ahnaf
May 12, 2012, 01:23 AM
^^ What ever makes you happy?

you shouldnt have include shak at no.4 batsman poll..
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Zunaid
May 12, 2012, 01:34 AM
You can't do one slot at a time poll. You need a pick 11 and compute the most popular pattern of choice.

Dilscoop
May 12, 2012, 01:39 AM
you shouldnt have include shak at no.4 batsman poll..
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Ya. People saw him name and just kept voting. You throw in his name in any random poll, people won't even bother to check question. But BP had to include his name on the poll, as he is a middle order batsman.

You can't do one slot at a time poll. You need a pick 11 and compute the most popular pattern of choice.

Little too late for that... ?

Zunaid
May 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
Ya. People saw him name and just kept voting. You throw in his name in any random poll, people won't even bother to check question. But BP had to include his name on the poll, as he is a middle order batsman.



Little too late for that... ?

Why?

Just you wait.

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 02:21 AM
i think to select the middle order batsmen it really needs to be down as a middle order poll. the format should have been openers, #3, middle order bats, #7/allrounder, pacers, spinner. then once the team is picked do a wicket keeper poll because with the talent in BD atm there are currently 3 keepers in the squad but they get picked for their batting. as we can see anamul, and jahurul are already picked and no doubt rahim will get picked.

playmaker
May 12, 2012, 03:19 AM
cant believe no sakib!

He belongs at 5, and 5 only :mad:

thread fail :E

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 03:22 AM
shakib isn't in the poll because he was already selected for a spot in the team, that's just how the votes went, not bengali's fault that's just how people voted.

bd fan
May 12, 2012, 05:32 AM
cant believe no sakib!

He belongs at 5, and 5 only :mad:

thread fail :E

Shakib is our best batsmen, 5 is too low for him. Anyway look at his stats at batting at no.4, its better than no.5 :)

playmaker
May 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
but his recent performance batting at no. 5 was excellent

M.H.Rubel
May 12, 2012, 10:22 AM
My no 5 is always Shakib

oronnya
May 12, 2012, 10:34 AM
Yes, Shakib prefers to bat at 5 but here we are setting up the batting line up according to what we think would be the best for the the team. and the player.. and Shakib is our best batsman for #4.. we don't want him to come in a situation where he doesn't have much left to do rather than saving our face.. We want him to come in to stop a collapse and build an innings which he does at ease.. You want your best batsman to come as early as possible.. in Test he can come later as he bowls for sooo many overs.. But for ODI #4 is perfect for him..

simon
May 12, 2012, 10:47 AM
n°9 ,10 niyeo ekta ,duto thread hoye jak,kemon?

on topic:
Sakib is the right one

BengaliPagol
May 12, 2012, 07:17 PM
Yes, Shakib prefers to bat at 5 but here we are setting up the batting line up according to what we think would be the best for the the team. and the player.. and Shakib is our best batsman for #4.. we don't want him to come in a situation where he doesn't have much left to do rather than saving our face.. We want him to come in to stop a collapse and build an innings which he does at ease.. You want your best batsman to come as early as possible.. in Test he can come later as he bowls for sooo many overs.. But for ODI #4 is perfect for him..

Exactly :up:

BengaliPagol
May 12, 2012, 07:26 PM
This is the team that everyone voted for so far
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Anamul Haque
3. Jahurul Islam
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5.
6.
7.
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Nazmul Hossain
11. Rubel Hossain

Shakib is our no. 4. He has good stats there and that should be his position. Everyone is well aware what the no. 4 batsmen is and who should be there. This isnt about being realistic. This is about putting the best team which we think will do well.

According to votes Shakib is voted the most (by a clear margin) to bat at no. 4. I think he would bat much better at no. 4 then no. 5.

This is a popularity vote. This is not a realistic vote.

The voting process isnt meant to be serious. Its meant to be about having fun and having a free choice of who you want to put at whatever position in the team. If you want Shakib to open the batting thats upto you. If you want Shafiul to bat at no. 3 thats upto you.

This is a BanglaCricket XI. Not a Bangladesh XI. Keep that in mind.

oronnya
May 12, 2012, 08:10 PM
Ok people are voting for Nasir at #5 .. now who will come at #7 ??? Mushy will be selected for #6 I believe.. So #7 will be given to Riyad because Momin shouldn't be wasted at #7.. You need a batsman at #7 who has good techniques and who can score runs from the word go.. Nasir or someone like Nasir should be perfect for that position..

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 08:40 PM
Ok people are voting for Nasir at #5 .. now who will come at #7 ??? Mushy will be selected for #6 I believe.. So #7 will be given to Riyad because Momin shouldn't be wasted at #7.. You need a batsman at #7 who has good techniques and who can score runs from the word go.. Nasir or someone like Nasir should be perfect for that position..

riyad doesn't suit the #7 spot, better off going with someone like sabbir who can accelerate from the get go but also play longer innings. #7 needs someone who can score quickly right form the start and hit boundaries at the end when needed, riyad hasn't been able to do that. nasir i think is probably the best for #7 right now as he's played a few matches now and has the ability needed to be in that role and be successful but he's got the potential to be a 4-6 batsman so keeping him at #7 doesn't seem right.

for me the only options for the #7 spot are nasir or sabbir. with mushy being the best suited for #6 this #5 spot is nasir's chance to be in the middle order otherwise he's at #7 (unless mushy gets picked for the #5 spot and nasir plays at #6).

oronnya
May 12, 2012, 08:44 PM
riyad doesn't suit the #7 spot, better off going with someone like sabbir who can accelerate from the get go but also play longer innings. #7 needs someone who can score quickly right form the start and hit boundaries at the end when needed, riyad hasn't been able to do that. nasir i think is probably the best for #7 right now as he's played a few matches now and has the ability needed to be in that role and be successful but he's got the potential to be a 4-6 batsman so keeping him at #7 doesn't seem right.

for me the only options for the #7 spot are nasir or sabbir. with mushy being the best suited for #6 this #5 spot is nasir's chance to be in the middle order otherwise he's at #7 (unless mushy gets picked for the #5 spot and nasir plays at #6).

Yup that's exactly what I said.. People voting Nasir for #5 means #7 will be given to Riyad which won't be a good choice.. People should have voted Riyad for #5 or Mominul if they want to leave out Riyad..

I want Nasir or someone like Nasir to come at #7..

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 08:47 PM
Yup that's exactly what I said.. People voting Nasir for #5 means #7 will be given to Riyad which won't be a good choice.. People should have voted Riyad for #5 or Mominul if they want to leave out Riyad..

I want Nasir or someone like Nasir to come at #7..

i believe a lot of people know that riyad isn't suited to #7 so i think if he's not in the team by that stage that many will vote for someone other than riyad in the #7 poll.....names like ziaur, milon, babu have been thrown around at times for the #7 spot. shuvagata could probably even play at #7.

BengaliPagol
May 12, 2012, 09:01 PM
Without Mahmudullah in the team the no. 7 position is going to be a problem.

If Nasir gets selected for the no. 5 position then the team will most likely look like this.

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Anamul Haque
3. Jahurul Islam
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. N/A
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Nazmul Hossain
11. Rubel Hossain

There isnt anyone clearcut to play at no.7. Mahmudullah isnt a no. 7 but i cant think of someone else. Shuvagata perhaps?

I think people will vote on Mahmudullah to bat at no. 7.

oronnya
May 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
Yeah TBH that's one spot which is still a problem..we really don't have a suitable batsman for #7..

Yes we can try out few options and see which one clicks.. But that's a long term process.. I hope we find someone and stick with him for a long time .. so that he can gain the experience and be a solid performer like Tamim/Shakib/Mushy/Nasir for the designated spot..

I hate to change the team after every loss.. Thank God we didn't do that to Shakib/Mushy who had their bad patches at the beginning of their career.. Sooo many people wanted to drop them.. So may be Hom/Ziaur/Sabbir can be developed as a specialist #7 batsman.. whoever the board selects I hope they give him at least 2/3 series to prove his worth...

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 10:56 PM
sabbir and shuvagata imo, but i think they both have potential to bat higher as they gain experience and perform, especially shuvagata.

Gowza
May 12, 2012, 10:57 PM
thing is for this #5 spot i'd probably prefer shuvagata or mominul over riyad.

BengaliPagol
May 18, 2012, 08:10 PM
Looks like Nasir Hossain has one the no. 5 spot for the team. Congratulation Nasir!

BengaliPagol
May 18, 2012, 08:11 PM
This is the BanglaCricket XI so far.

1. Tamim Iqbal - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=40833)
2. Anamul Haque - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=40833)
3. Jahurul Islam - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...74#post1518074 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518074#post1518074)
4. Shakib Al Hasan - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...26#post1520726 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520726#post1520726)
5. Nasir Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1523571&posted=1#post1523571
6.
7.
8. Mashrafe Mortaza - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)
9. Abdur Razzak - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...75#post1518075 (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1518075#post1518075)
10. Nazmul Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)
11. Rubel Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727 (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1520727#post1520727)

BengaliPagol
May 18, 2012, 08:14 PM
Whats your opinion of the team so far?

22Yards
May 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
Whats your opinion of the team so far?

Looks picture perfect to me. 6 should go to rahim and 7 should go to the likes of shabbir milon or zia (though i doubt if he bats that low). Ideally shabbir because he is an allrounder.

Gowza
May 18, 2012, 09:09 PM
solid team, as said above the #6 spot should go to rahim and the #7 to shabbir

Tiger444
May 19, 2012, 08:55 AM
That's actually a good choice to have Nasir at #5. He would get more time to get his eye in and settle in. If Riyad is not picked for the #4 or #5 spots then he shouldn't be in the team.
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oronnya
May 19, 2012, 09:18 AM
looks fantastic :) Nasir coming just after Shakib is good as these 2 are such good runner between the wicket.. they have good understanding.. Then Mushy should come at 6...

let's see who we choose for #7.. that would be interesting as that's a very important position... I would prefer a off spin all rounder who can score quick runs...No not thinking about Riyad as he is not a #7 batsman..

Tigers_eye
May 19, 2012, 09:28 AM
matro 13 ta vote porsey? ei style'er poll ar ber koiro na. Think some creative way of incorporating everyone's feedback. May be top order 1-4 thread. Middle order 5-7. Tail 8 to 11. Break it up by format as well.

BD Rox
May 19, 2012, 02:05 PM
Nasir should bat at no.5. No doubt about it. He keeps the scorecard ticking along.

BengaliPagol
May 19, 2012, 08:57 PM
The no. 6 & 7 batsmen poll is up and running.