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Kohli_Sox
June 24, 2012, 06:26 PM
Pick the best Bangladesh Test XI that you have seen. My XI :

Tamim Iqbal
Rajin Saleh
Habibul Bashar (captain)
Aminul Islam
Shakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mahmudullah
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe
Enamul Haque Jr.
Rubel Hossain

Reserves: Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Mashud, Shahadat Hossain

TigerEz
June 24, 2012, 08:05 PM
Tamim Iqbal
Shahriar Nafees
Nazimuddin/Junaid Siddique
Jahurul Islam
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib al Hasan
Mahmuddullah Riyad/ Nasir Hossain
Mashrafe bin Mortaza/Elias Sunny
Nazmul Hossain
Rubel Hossain
Robiul Islam

See all those Pacers!!! u take all those pacers at once, no teams batting line up's pants r gonna be dry!

Zeeshan
June 24, 2012, 08:09 PM
ei thred ta bengali pagol bhaia khulle ki bhalo hoto 9 ki?

Kohli_Sox
June 24, 2012, 10:40 PM
ei thred ta bengali pagol bhaia khulle ki bhalo hoto 9 ki?

He'll hopefully:up:. This thread is only for discussing Bangladesh Test XI of all time

Gowza
June 25, 2012, 01:10 AM
hard to put mushy higher than #7 if he's keeping, would recommend #6 be the very highest if he is to keep wicket.

Sohel
June 25, 2012, 01:22 AM
The best is yet to come but based on those who have played so far:

1. Tamim
2. Zunaid :facepalm:
3. Bulbul
4. Ashraful :facepalm:
5. Shakib (C)
6. Mushfique
7. Riyad
8. Mashud (WK)
9. Mashrafe
10. Rafique
11. Shahadat :sick:

Nasir hasn't played enough tests but he'll be there for sure. Daulat Zaman, Yusuf Babu and Nazrul Qadir Lintu never played tests but I bet they'd have been up there if they had.

al Furqaan
June 25, 2012, 01:25 AM
Bulbul over HaBa, Sohel bhai?

Sohel
June 25, 2012, 01:32 AM
Bulbul over HaBa, Sohel bhai?

Shoot me but I don't do streaky players, no matter how long it takes before that luck runs out and the truth is finally exposed. I cannot recall a single one of his test innings where he didn't get at least 3 lives and 6 half-lives. Now, I appreciate the fact that he was getting runs when everyone around him were totally out of depth, but that won't put HaBa in my team EVER.

I put Imroze as my opener instead of Mofees because as crappy openers go, he's likely to survive longer. I don't want to hear about his fluke heroics against Australia ever again.

Navo
June 25, 2012, 01:45 AM
Why not Tamim's brother Nafis Iqbal as the 2nd opener?

F6_Turbo
June 25, 2012, 01:57 AM
Akram Khan and his 17 runs a pop being criminally overlooked

Kohli_Sox
June 25, 2012, 02:07 AM
Shoot me but I don't do streaky players, no matter how long it takes before that luck runs out and the truth is finally exposed. I cannot recall a single one of his test innings where he didn't get at least 3 lives and 6 half-lives. Now, I appreciate the fact that he was getting runs when everyone around him were totally out of depth, but that won't put HaBa in my team EVER.

I put Imroze as my opener instead of Mofees because as crappy openers go, he's likely to survive longer. I don't want to hear about his fluke heroics against Australia ever again.

Sohel bhai, interesting observation on Bashar. He was a little bit unsure at start of his innings of his footwork but mainly he was strokemaker and used to get his runs fairly quickly and many times took the team out of trouble. It's true it would have been better if he could transform his fifties into hundreds but he was one of the best pullers and best player of short pitch bowling in the team at that time

BengaliPagol
June 25, 2012, 04:02 AM
ei thred ta bengali pagol bhaia khulle ki bhalo hoto 9 ki?

Bhalo bholso bhai :)

Naimul_Hd
June 25, 2012, 04:19 AM
Surprised to see no one selected our one and only Test batsman, " Javed Omar Belim Golla (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55935.html)" who holds the record of 'carrying bat through the innings' against Zim.

My BD Test XI as of today:

1. Javed Omar
2. Tamim
3. Habibul Bashar (C)
4. Aminul Islam
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mahmudullah
7. Khaled Masud Pilot
8. Mashrafe
9. Md. Rafique
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Enamul Haque Jr.

TimAus
June 25, 2012, 07:10 AM
As an outsider the Bangladesh side in the Bashar era (this includes guys like Omar, Ashraful, Kapali, Mashud, Rafique) were hopeless easy beats. These guys might have been the best players then and they played for a while but I reckon the current stock of players are better than each one of them. To be fair I didn't see a lot of them apart from one series in the Northern Territory in Aus but they weren't worth watching in those days.

I did a thread a little while ago about the "statistical best XI" for Bangladesh. Hopefully in 10 years there are none of the old names on it. May sound harsh, even disrespectful, but seriously they weren't up to international standard.

Isnaad
June 25, 2012, 07:26 AM
1. Tamim Iqbal Khan
2. Javed Omar Belim Golla
3. Mohammad Ashraful Motin
4. Habibul Bashar (C.)
5. Shakib Al Hasan Moyna
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Mohammad Mahmudullah Riyad
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza
10. Enamul Haque (Jr.)
11. Shahadat Hossain

F6_Turbo
June 25, 2012, 07:37 AM
As an outsider the Bangladesh side in the Bashar era (this includes guys like Omar, Ashraful, Kapali, Mashud, Rafique) were hopeless easy beats. These guys might have been the best players then and they played for a while but I reckon the current stock of players are better than each one of them. To be fair I didn't see a lot of them apart from one series in the Northern Territory in Aus but they weren't worth watching in those days.

I did a thread a little while ago about the "statistical best XI" for Bangladesh. Hopefully in 10 years there are none of the old names on it. May sound harsh, even disrespectful, but seriously they weren't up to international standard.

Dont think you're being disrespectful at all...not sure you'll find anyone disagreeing with you. If in a decades time, any of the old names are still being put in 'all time teams', there will be mass suicides in Bangladesh :lol: :lol:

But to cut those guys some slack...some of the older players were past their best, when Bangladesh finally made it into international cricket proper...and they received nothing like the kind of support the current crop do(be it financial, training, mental or otherwise).

Kohli_Sox
June 25, 2012, 08:29 AM
As an outsider the Bangladesh side in the Bashar era (this includes guys like Omar, Ashraful, Kapali, Mashud, Rafique) were hopeless easy beats. These guys might have been the best players then and they played for a while but I reckon the current stock of players are better than each one of them. To be fair I didn't see a lot of them apart from one series in the Northern Territory in Aus but they weren't worth watching in those days.

I did a thread a little while ago about the "statistical best XI" for Bangladesh. Hopefully in 10 years there are none of the old names on it. May sound harsh, even disrespectful, but seriously they weren't up to international standard.

Dont think you're being disrespectful at all...not sure you'll find anyone disagreeing with you. If in a decades time, any of the old names are still being put in 'all time teams', there will be mass suicides in Bangladesh :lol: :lol:

But to cut those guys some slack...some of the older players were past their best, when Bangladesh finally made it into international cricket proper...and they received nothing like the kind of support the current crop do(be it financial, training, mental or otherwise).

Disagree there with Rafique. Rafique was class SLA esp. in Tests. Yes, he averages 40 and took 100 wickets in 33 Tests but those figures don't sum up his actual bowling partly because at those times Bangladesh used to bowl One Innings only and given those limited chances, Rafique showed his skills. He has 7 times 5 wickets haul with economy of under 3. At those times he was there up with Daniel Vettori and was classified as one of the best SLAs around.

Ajfar
June 25, 2012, 08:47 AM
Why not Tamim's brother Nafis Iqbal as the 2nd opener?

He didn't play enough tests and from the look of I'm not sure if he ever will.

I would like to see a thread for 'Worst BD Test XI'. I'm pretty sure Imrul Kayes will make everyone's list.

MarufH
June 25, 2012, 09:09 AM
1. Tamim
2. Athar*
3. Bashar
4. Mushy
5. Bulbul (C)
6. Shakib (VC)
7. Mahmudullah
8. Pilot (WK)
9. Rofique
10. Mashrafe
11. Talha (Prior to injury)

*I know Athar didn't play but I think his temperament would suit best for test cricket.

roman
June 25, 2012, 09:22 AM
1. Tamim
2. Athar
3. Bashar
4. Mushy
5. Bulbul (C)
6. Shakib (VC)
7. Mahmudullah
8. Pilot (WK)
9. Rofique
10. Mashrafe
11. Talha (Prior to injury)

Atahar never played test brother..

My XI

1 Tamim
2 Zunaid
3 Bashar
4 Bulbul(c)
5 Shakib(vc)
6 Mushfiq
7 Riyad
8 Rafiq
9 Mashrafe
10 Rubel
11 Shahadat (me selecting him indicates we have not too many quality bowler)

Naimul_Hd
June 25, 2012, 09:40 AM
1. Tamim
2. Athar*
3. Bashar
4. Mushy
5. Bulbul (C)
6. Shakib (VC)
7. Mahmudullah
8. Pilot (WK)
9. Rofique
10. Mashrafe
11. Talha (Prior to injury)

*I know Athar didn't play but I think his temperament would suit best for test cricket.

Then 'Minhajul Abedin Nannu' would have made it too cause he was the most technically sound and intelligent batsman who never played Test match. It was such a shame that he was neglected by selectors while his other team mates Aminul, Akram, Durjoy got chance to play test matches.

Kohli_Sox
June 25, 2012, 09:49 AM
Then 'Minhajul Abedin Nannu' would have made it too cause he was the most technically sound and intelligent batsman who never played Test match. It was such a shame that he was neglected by selectors while his other team mates Aminul, Akram, Durjoy got chance to play test matches.

Another player who might have done well if given more chances was Shahriar Hossain Biddut; liked the way he used to play square cuts and off drives

Naimul_Hd
June 25, 2012, 10:01 AM
Another player who might have done well if given more chances was Shahriar Hossain Biddut; liked the way he used to play square cuts and off drives

Biddut was one of my favs. He was such a sweet timer of the ball. Still remember his back to back century against MCC. :)

roman
June 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
Biddut got his chances but didn't capitalize those. He had what it takes to be an opener but somehow managed not to use it. Same goes for Opi, Rokom. Maybe they were not serious, family reasons or whatever the case maybe, at the end of the day its our cricket that suffered.

rinathq
June 25, 2012, 02:23 PM
Tamim
Javed
Bashar (c)
AminuI Islam (vc)
Shakib
Pilot
Riyad (W)
Mashrafe
Mohammed Rafique
Enamul Huq Jnr
Shahadat Hossain

ahnaf
June 25, 2012, 02:27 PM
Disagree there with Rafique. Rafique was class SLA esp. in Tests. Yes, he averages 40 and took 100 wickets in 33 Tests but those figures don't sum up his actual bowling partly because at those times Bangladesh used to bowl One Innings only and given those limited chances, Rafique showed his skills. He has 7 times 5 wickets haul with economy of under 3. At those times he was there up with Daniel Vettori and was classified as one of the best SLAs around.

well said.. Rafique was a pure class... Was very much underrated throughout of his carrer..(as expected)..imo he is the best SLA we ever produced till now..
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al Furqaan
June 25, 2012, 03:36 PM
As an outsider the Bangladesh side in the Bashar era (this includes guys like Omar, Ashraful, Kapali, Mashud, Rafique) were hopeless easy beats. These guys might have been the best players then and they played for a while but I reckon the current stock of players are better than each one of them. To be fair I didn't see a lot of them apart from one series in the Northern Territory in Aus but they weren't worth watching in those days.



Tim, as an outsider, what is your honest opinion of the current Test team? Are they still "hopeless easy beats"? I would say not, but what is the non-BD fan's "outside" opinion?

TimAus
June 26, 2012, 01:00 AM
Tim, as an outsider, what is your honest opinion of the current Test team? Are they still "hopeless easy beats"? I would say not, but what is the non-BD fan's "outside" opinion?

No they are not hopeless easy beats any more. Especially in one dayers where they are a genuinely good team, but even in Tests they are a lot better side. For the first time in their history we are expecting them to win games, especially at home. They are still way down the pecking order but the gap from them to West Indies and New Zealand has all but disappeared, and with all their youth they will only get better.

BD Rox
June 26, 2012, 01:48 AM
No they are not hopeless easy beats any more. Especially in one dayers where they are a genuinely good team, but even in Tests they are a lot better side. For the first time in their history we are expecting them to win games, especially at home. They are still way down the pecking order but the gap from them to West Indies and New Zealand has all but disappeared, and with all their youth they will only get better.

Good to see such comments from outsiders.:)
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BengaliPagol
June 26, 2012, 04:45 AM
No they are not hopeless easy beats any more. Especially in one dayers where they are a genuinely good team, but even in Tests they are a lot better side. For the first time in their history we are expecting them to win games, especially at home. They are still way down the pecking order but the gap from them to West Indies and New Zealand has all but disappeared, and with all their youth they will only get better.

Good to see such comments from outsiders.:)
:flag:

I live in Australia and my mates still mock Bangladesh and talk about how bad they are. (even after the Asia Cup) :facepalm:

Hope times can change and Bangladesh can consistently beat top teams so i can shut my mates up. :)

Equinox
June 26, 2012, 05:32 AM
Tamim Iqbal
Javed Omar
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah
Khaled Mashud
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

TimAus
June 27, 2012, 03:22 AM
I live in Australia and my mates still mock Bangladesh and talk about how bad they are. (even after the Asia Cup) :facepalm:

Hope times can change and Bangladesh can consistently beat top teams so i can shut my mates up. :)

There is a line of thinking in Australia (you're probably well aware of it) that until you play well on our pitches you aren't a serious cricket team. When the world cup comes to Australia Bangladesh will have their opportunity to really prove themselves to us. Remember in Asia cup Bangladesh beat India and SL, two teams that Australia defeated to win the tri series a week earlier.

BengaliPagol
June 27, 2012, 04:22 AM
There is a line of thinking in Australia (you're probably well aware of it) that until you play well on our pitches you aren't a serious cricket team. When the world cup comes to Australia Bangladesh will have their opportunity to really prove themselves to us. Remember in Asia cup Bangladesh beat India and SL, two teams that Australia defeated to win the tri series a week earlier.

Yeah im am well aware of that saying. The seaming conditions are a test for foreign batsmen. But it doesnt necessarily mean you dont have what it takes. I admit batting on seaming conditions isnt easy but scoring runs in the slow wickets of Mirpur is another test on its own. I dont think its gonna be easy for the Bangla boys to win against top teams in the World Cup in Australia but we certainly can knock out the sub continent teams (Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan) because they are also not used to seaming conditions.

The tri series in the summer was a huge dissapointment on India's behalf. They were absolutely shocking on Australian pitches. And i could recount that many people thought the test series would be an India whitewash. But at the end of the day it came down to preperation for the India team. They didnt adjust, they couldnt play the quickies of Peter Siddle, James Pattinson and Hilfenhaus

I hope Bangladesh dont fall into the same trap. It is all about preparation for the Bangladeshi team before the World Cup . Hopefully they can come much earlier to versue state teams so that they can get used to the seaming conditions. Bangladeshi boys are in unfamilar territory when it comes to Aussie conditions. And let me tell you if Bangladesh do versue Australia then the whole stadium will be packed, full of Bangladeshi supporters.

shakibrulz
June 28, 2012, 06:09 AM
Tamim Iqbal
Javed Omar
Shahriar Nafees
Junaid Siddique
Shakib Al Hasan
Habibul Bashar
Mahmudullah Riyad
Mushfiqur Rahim+*
Mashrafe Mortaza
Muhammad Rafique
Enamul Haque Jr. (soon to be replaced by Sunny)

Wow, that's a bloody awful team for an all time XI.

nahaz
June 28, 2012, 06:00 PM
My all time XI, who may survive even in Australia:
1. Tamim Iqbal Khan
2. Javed Omar Belim
3. Habibul Bashar (c)
4. Mushfiqur Rahim
5. Mohammed Ashraful
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Khaled Mashud (wk)
8. Mashrafee Mortaza
9. Mohammed Rafique
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Nazmul Hossain
Reserves: Aminul Islam, Minhazul Abedin, Shahadat Hossain.

Mashud is clearly a better wicketkeeper. Although Rahim is a better batsman. Rahim got in over our legendary batsman Aminul Islam, as he has a slightly better technique. Bashar was ahead of Bulbul bhai due to weight of runs scored, over a consistently longer period of time. Nazmul, who cannot find a place in any XI, is in my best XI.

Shahadat would edge out Rubel due to better track record. But it is impossible to pick Shahadat as a coach and any level of reliability as to how he would be on the day. That, along with Rubel's greater pace and cricket brain gets him to be on the team.

If this XI lined up against the current Australia line-up in Mirpur, they would win, purely because of the strength of the bowling line up. The spin duo of Rafique and Shakib would be relentless. Mashrafee, Nazmul and Rubel all can bowl to a plan. The six batsmen all are capable of big innings. All that has to happen is for Clarke to say " My beauty porducts are better than yours" to Tamim and we can get another 150 out of Tamim. Just tell Shakib and Ashraful that they have to save the match and they will bat their hearts out.

Gowza
June 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
team should look like this imo:

1 tamim
2 SN
3 junaid/bashar
4 riyad/mushy
5 shakib
6 mushy/riyad
7 nasir/mashud
8 mash
9 sunny/rafique
10 ? nazmul
11 ? rubel/shahadat

10 and 11 go to pacers, nazmul might be one but he hasn't played enough tests to really know how he would be and the 3rd spot is wide open, contenders i guess have to be rubel, shafiul and shahadat and none of them have been good in tests.

junaid was better at #3 than #2, junaid's record at #3 is slightly better than bashar's but bashar batted there for a lot longer so tough choice. SN has a way better record as opener than junaid does.

mushy and riyads spots depend on whether mushy keeps or not, but neither can miss out on a spot in this team.

nasir's spot in the team also depends on mushy and whether he keeps wicket or plays as a specialist bat. if mushy keeps nasir is out and mashud takes the keeper spot.

as far as spinners go i guess you could take just 2 pacers then have sunny, rafique and shakib spinning. to me it's a pacer short but with the quality of pacers to choose from that's something to think about.

BengaliPagol
June 29, 2012, 10:04 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Mahmudullah
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Enamul Haque jnr
11. Syed Rasel

I picked Rasel because i always respected him over Shahadat, Shafiul and others. Rubel isnt as effective in tests. We havent have had that many good fast bowlers over the years so it was a difficult pick. Closest candidate is Nazmul though.

Gowza
June 29, 2012, 10:08 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Mahmudullah
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Enamul Haque jnr
11. Syed Rasel

I picked Rasel because i always respected him over Shahadat, Shafiul and others. Rubel isnt as effective in tests. We havent have had that many good fast bowlers over the years so it was a difficult pick. Closest candidate is Nazmul though.

yeah rasel is pretty much thrown in with shahadat, rubel, shafiul and nazmul. not effective in the tests they played but also not played that many (other than shahadat). surprised you have ash in there, talent he might have but there are players with much better records than him.

BengaliPagol
June 29, 2012, 10:16 PM
yeah rasel is pretty much thrown in with shahadat, rubel, shafiul and nazmul. not effective in the tests they played but also not played that many (other than shahadat). surprised you have ash in there, talent he might have but there are players with much better records than him.

ive put him there purely for the experience he has and also some of the innings he has played. Not purely going for his statistical records. But eight 50's and five 100's from 111 innings is pretty shocking.

TigerEz
June 29, 2012, 10:21 PM
Rasel can be useful in Desi conditions but not in outside conditions! gonna get hammered!

Ajfar
June 29, 2012, 10:46 PM
Tamim Iqbal
Javed Omar
Shahriar Nafees
Junaid Siddique
Shakib Al Hasan
Habibul Bashar
Mahmudullah Riyad
Mushfiqur Rahim+*
Mashrafe Mortaza
Muhammad Rafique
Enamul Haque Jr. (soon to be replaced by Sunny)

Wow, that's a bloody awful team for an all time XI.

That's a terrible team. Chances are 9 out of 10 times we are looking at 4/5 wickets down within the first 10 overs. Actually to be honest with you that can be the case for just about any Test XI that we come up with.

Gowza
June 29, 2012, 10:53 PM
mushy at #8? he's averaged like 35+ in the last 2-3 years, 8 is to low for him imo even if he is keeping.

M.H.Rubel
June 30, 2012, 05:16 AM
Tamim Iqbal
Javed Omar
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah
Khaled Mashud
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortazae
Shahadat Hossain

I ll play with this team.Though i am interested to play with Elias Sunny.