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Sovik
July 6, 2012, 03:20 AM
Gayle is in form of his life. Three fifties so far. New Zealand will not find it easy. Looking forward to a rare series win by the windies

Kohli_Sox
July 6, 2012, 03:56 AM
Not much hope for NZ at the moment

playmaker
July 6, 2012, 04:27 AM
these NZers have a history of getting [..] when playing in spin-friendly pitches

kiwibd
July 6, 2012, 10:01 AM
um i think any team in the world, would be getting raped by NARINE, in spin friendly pitches, also really hoping taylor and mcculum can play in the second half of the one dayers! and

Sovik
July 7, 2012, 10:34 AM
Another explosive fifty. Gayle should stay till the end

Kohli_Sox
July 7, 2012, 10:56 AM
NZ in dire straits; need to play some good cricket

Jadukor
July 7, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sammy is a real handy batsman in the lower order. Very effective.

Zeeshan
July 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
NZ will make it

Zeeshan
July 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
"Chris GAyle took his bat to the barbar shop" -CG's dad

BANFAN
July 7, 2012, 04:22 PM
NZ 195/5 needs 121 from 79 balls. Do see them making it.

I think we have golden chance to beat this NZ team in coming T20 WC ... Well it's ODI though..

BANFAN
July 7, 2012, 04:25 PM
They are struggling against spin..... We should go with all out spin against them in WC ....

Equinox
July 8, 2012, 07:47 AM
A team without McCullum, Taylor and Vettori playing in spin-friendly conditions. Even Zimbabwe would annihilate them. Regardless, WI are one of the favourites for the WT20. Great to see them dominating again.

kiwibd
July 8, 2012, 10:10 AM
i am living in nz and follow nz cricket, we should not be getting so optimistic that nz will be easy to beat, etc... this nz team at full strength (should have) beat south africa at full strength in their last t20 series. ( nz cudnt get 3 runs in the last over to win the series 2-1 -_- ) guptill, nicol, mcculum, talyor, ryder, williamson, franklin, oram, would make up the top 8 in a full strength nz team.... can anyone argue that, that isnt a formidable batting line up? i mean if we had a SUNILE NARINE, then sure we could be banking on a easy win but alas we dont...

cricheart
July 13, 2012, 10:28 AM
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Sovik
July 15, 2012, 12:20 AM
WI won the ODI series. Now Test series to be won

Ajfar
July 15, 2012, 10:18 AM
Congrats WI on winning the series. Looks like WI is getting further and further away ftom us in the ranking table. I still can't believe we were so close to climbing up to number 8 but we ruined our chance.

Jadukor
July 15, 2012, 10:33 AM
In the limited overs format the current WI team has serious firepower. Gayle, Bravo, Pollard, Russel, dwayne smith are all power hitters. Their captain sammy is no slouch with the bat himself and adding to that the twin threat of Bishoo and Narine could be really handy in the middle overs. If this group sticks together for a couple more years and they find an able partner for Gayle in the opening Slot then we will see a very good side emerge out of west indies for 2015.

Nadim
July 16, 2012, 12:23 PM
Russel saved WI again. 59 off 40.

I don't understand why he is batting at number 9. He have an avg of 36 and SR of 120+ in 27 ODI thus far, and he should batting ahead of Sammy and powell(wk) @ no 7.

Tiger444
July 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Russel saved WI again. 59 off 40.

I don't understand why he is batting at number 9. He have an avg of 36 and SR of 120+ in 27 ODI thus far, and he should batting ahead of Sammy and powell(wk) @ no 7.

Agreed. Their really mishandling Russell. The guy should be at 5/6. Also he needs to be in the Test team.

Sovik
July 16, 2012, 10:37 PM
Russell has more shots than Pollard. I would like to see him batting @ 7 if not higher.

13 wickets in 5 matches. I hope he will be effective in test matches

playmaker
July 17, 2012, 08:19 AM
Pollard can do only one thing: SLOG

Russel on the other hand has plenty of shots in his book. And this NZ team, will struggle to beat even zimbabwe and ireland the way they are playing.

AsifTheManRahman
July 17, 2012, 09:31 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if this West Indies side ends up winning the T20 WC this year. They'll probably fall short in the end, but they have the best T20 specialists in the world. The only things stopping them: spin and themselves.

kiwibd
July 17, 2012, 06:08 PM
[..].. ''nz will struggle tobeat ireland and zimbabwe'' im 150% sure you didnt watch the matches, if it wasn't for GAYLE in the first 2 ODIS and NARINE who single handedly won them the last 2 ODIs. 50 off 42 to win in both the last odis but unfortunately for the black caps, narine bowled 3/4 of the remaining 7 overs both games. It really bugs me and just because of [...] people im now looking forward to NZ dominating bangladesh in the world t20!

kiwibd
July 17, 2012, 06:10 PM
This West indies team are nowhere near favourties to win the world t20, they have hit and miss batsmen and apart from narine, an average bowling line up. However if Gayle can be mr consistent and narine bowling in Sri Lanka, west indies will have a good chance of doing well in the world t20,

Kohli_Sox
July 17, 2012, 06:40 PM
[..].. ''nz will struggle tobeat ireland and zimbabwe'' im 150% sure you didnt watch the matches, if it wasn't for GAYLE in the first 2 ODIS and NARINE who single handedly won them the last 2 ODIs. 50 off 42 to win in both the last odis but unfortunately for the black caps, narine bowled 3/4 of the remaining 7 overs both games. It really bugs me and just because of these [...] people im now looking forward to NZ dominating bangladesh in the world t20!

Don't know why I'm even bothered to reply but your obsession with NZ team is pretty hilarious. Do spare some time and bother looking NZers forums where every single die hard NZ fans are not happy with NZ team whereas you constantly defending them, don't understand what's the need of doing this

kiwibd
July 17, 2012, 07:00 PM
Don't know why I'm even bothered to reply but your obsession with NZ team is pretty hilarious. Do spare some time and bother looking NZers forums where every single die hard NZ fans are not happy with NZ team whereas you constantly defending them, don't understand what's the need of doing this
are you serious? i'm not defending them because i am a die hard fan, im defending them because (apparently ''ignorant'' is bad language in this forum according to the mod that edited ''ignorant'' out of my previous post) people in this forum are making ridiculous statements about the nz team. Ofcourse i'm not happy about the NZ team, but its not in as bad shape as people are saying considering there was 8 injuries in the tour. But anyway my point is, am i not allowed to defend a cricket team because other forum members are making unreasonable statements about them?

cricheart
July 17, 2012, 07:24 PM
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Ka Mate Best

Gowza
July 23, 2012, 09:15 PM
gayle is selected in the test squad and narine is the only specialist spinner in the squad. they dropped darren bravo which to me is just silly, and dwayne bravo could easily have taken a spot ahead of barath, fudadin, and powell. sarwan would have been an asset imo but he's not there.

Sovik
July 23, 2012, 10:04 PM
gayle is selected in the test squad and narine is the only specialist spinner in the squad. they dropped darren bravo which to me is just silly, and dwayne bravo could easily have taken a spot ahead of barath, fudadin, and powell. sarwan would have been an asset imo but he's not there.


Darren Bravo has not recovered from this injury but Dwayne Bravo should have been picked. Bishoo should have been in the squad

Jadukor
July 23, 2012, 10:21 PM
This NZ team is the worst of all NZ team I have seen since the early 90s. Still remember the awesome team of Martin Crowe, Mark Gretbatch, Deepak Patel etc of the 92 WC. The team consisting of Cairnes, Nash, Danny were no push overs either. Things seemed to have gone downhill since the retirement of Flemming and Bond. Sad to see them slide in this manner.

Gowza
July 23, 2012, 10:46 PM
Darren Bravo has not recovered from this injury but Dwayne Bravo should have been picked. Bishoo should have been in the squad

i'm keen on seeing narine more in tests to see how genuine of a prospect he truly is, and yes bishoo could have been in the discussions but don't forget shillingford, he didn't do anything wrong really and he's not even in the squad.

Gowza
July 23, 2012, 10:52 PM
This NZ team is the worst of all NZ team I have seen since the early 90s. Still remember the awesome team of Martin Crowe, Mark Gretbatch, Deepak Patel etc of the 92 WC. The team consisting of Cairnes, Nash, Danny were no push overs either. Things seemed to have gone downhill since the retirement of Flemming and Bond. Sad to see them slide in this manner.

yep, true. they're nowhere near as good as they were back then imo. but with wagner now eligible for selection, mark gillespie on the comeback, martin still ok (but not what he was it has to be said), bracewell so far a good find, ross taylor, mccullum, kane williamson on the rise, brownlie possibly a good find, van wyk and watling, vettori obviously they have the makings for a solid team. even guys like rob nicol and redmond have decent talent, flynn isn't to bad either. they just have to pull it together, workout the best team dynamic and where all the cogs fit to make the machine run at full capacity.

Gowza
July 25, 2012, 09:07 PM
3 wickets for narine, guptill just short of a ton, really wanted flynn to get a few more.

Gowza
July 26, 2012, 01:42 AM
if someone can support williamson NZ can make a decent score here, WI bowling is down to roach and narine.

Tiger444
July 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
This is why WI needs Gayle. The guy is just pure class. Look at how comfortable Powell has looked. It really does help that 1 of the greats is on the other side guiding you.

Dilscoop
July 26, 2012, 03:12 PM
About to get his 100 on Test return. Take that WICB. Sore losers.

Ajfar
July 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
About to get his 100 on Test return. Take that WICB. Sore losers.

I can't believe they kept this guy out of international cricket for this long. Until recently when some of the talent players got added to the WI squad, for some time he was the West Indies team. I hope he goes on beast mode and score a double hundred.

Sovik
July 26, 2012, 10:22 PM
Would love to see Gayle scoring a double ton

Sohel
July 27, 2012, 12:34 AM
Would love to see Gayle scoring a double ton

Me too bro.

F6_Turbo
July 27, 2012, 03:31 AM
About to get his 100 on Test return. Take that WICB. Sore losers.

Did you just lay the blame for the entire fiasco at the feet of the Board? That's quite a blinkered view isn't it...

cricheart
July 27, 2012, 11:35 AM
Day3 Lunch: West Indies - 245/0 in 72.0 overs (CH Gayle 146, KOA Powell 96)
NZ crossing diffcult time. Gayle, Narine allready too much and here even Powell gains forms to score a ton from nowhere. Totally useless bowling, even Ireland can bowl better than this! :doh:

Tiger444
July 27, 2012, 12:31 PM
Congrats to Gayle for such a great 150. 1 of my favorite players. Also really impressed with Powell. He's a tall well built young man and his drives are a treat to watch. Also really like his temperament as well. I rate him higher than Barath and Brathwaite at this stage.

Ajfar
July 27, 2012, 04:42 PM
What happened to Kirk Edwards? Is he injured or something.

simon
July 27, 2012, 04:57 PM
Korish Ghayel,what a lezend, :notworthy:
missed it,checked cricinfo today morning,saw he was on 85,thought that was stumps for the day but now realized it was stumps for yesterday. -______-
gotta look for H/L.

Both WI and NZ are close rivals ranking wise I guess ,but WI definitely got better players.

deshimon
July 27, 2012, 06:30 PM
After long time Gayle welcome Test cricket with a century.

Gowza
July 28, 2012, 08:45 AM
Gayle returns to test cricket with a century! Powell in the runs to.

deshimon
July 28, 2012, 09:24 PM
New Zealand reply second innings strongly but they are still back in this Test.

Gowza
July 28, 2012, 11:22 PM
Didn't get to watch so not sure what Wagner was bowling like but thought he'd get better results than he has so far

Ajfar
July 29, 2012, 01:16 PM
Looks like WI has this one in the bag. Glad to see them win. Gayle returns with a bang and brings some luck for WI..

Gowza
July 29, 2012, 06:52 PM
gayle is quality, one of the best batsmen WI has produced and one of the best shorter format batsmen of all time.

Sovik
July 30, 2012, 04:08 AM
What a win. 16 years it took them to beat New Zealand again. I would love to see Jerome Taylor opening the bowling for the Windies

Gowza
July 30, 2012, 04:10 AM
What a win. 16 years it took them to beat New Zealand again. I would love to see Jerome Taylor opening the bowling for the Windies

roach is quite good these days, an opening pair of kemar roach and jerome taylor could be quite a good attack.

Tiger444
July 30, 2012, 07:17 AM
I'm really happy for the Windies. They looked good this match. Sammy has stated that the WI are aiming to be in the top 5 by 2015. I see them definitely being on the right track. I think that Ramdin should be replaced by Thomas and then they would be a better squad.

Jadukor
July 30, 2012, 09:08 AM
Happy for West Indies... I think Taylor, Roach, Narine and Bishoo along with the all rounders Bravo, Pollard would make a decent side in any format. I remember how lackluster Sri Lanka were under Dilshan... I wonder if NZ is also missing an inspirational leader right now

Leafs PWN
July 30, 2012, 10:50 AM
After a long time, I feel West Windies have a good team in their hands. They have multiple quality players in all postions, along with a superstar in Gayle, and another one in the making in Narine. Guys like Sammy, Bravo, Pollard are GREAT secondary options. If their youngsters can continue to develop, I see them climbing to a top 5 team in the world, in the shorter formats, with a couple upset championhips.

I think they are a dark horse for the T20 champhionship coming up this year. Won't be suprised to see them come out on top.

AsifTheManRahman
July 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
Looks like the talent was always there, they lost to us at home just because they were under prepared. We're not toppling them any time soon. Heck, we'll be lucky if we can edge out Turkmenistan in the rankings.

NoName
July 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Wonder how we'd fare against NZ in a test match, at home obviously, they were clueless against spin.

Gowza
July 30, 2012, 07:24 PM
Wonder how we'd fare against NZ in a test match, at home obviously, they were clueless against spin.

i think probably, gayle, chanderpaul, roach and narine would be big difference makers....

kiwibd
July 30, 2012, 07:35 PM
expected more from NZ on the final day after they were 200-3! but roach bowled a fiery spell to get rid of taylor and williamson within a couple of overs :( Not too dissapointed, WI - Gayle and Narie = only getting 50% of the wickets and only 60% of the runs. would have loved to see gayle and narine together against australia and england. With Darren Bravo-Dwayne Bravo, Jerome Taylor and perhaps Ramnaresh Sarwan, this will be a formidable WI side! (also Bisoo the legspinner)

edit- this wraps it up quite nicely. from captain Ross Taylor: "They are a side that relies heavily on Narine and Gayle to do well for them. Gayle batted very well and gave us an opportunity but we didn't take it. Narine, if he is not taking wickets, doesn't go for lot of runs. I was pleased with the team in the way we played him. There were a few soft dismissals in the fist innings against him but other than that we played him really well."
source - http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-new-zealand-2012/content/current/story/574629.html

Ajfar
July 30, 2012, 08:22 PM
roach is quite good these days, an opening pair of kemar roach and jerome taylor could be quite a good attack.

Well now that Rampaul got injured looks like Fidel Edward's coming in for him. I think these 2 will also be a good attack, but Fidel is injury prone. So not sure how he will do after coming back from an injury. He is really experienced already played 50+ test matches, so that should come in handy.

kiwibd
July 31, 2012, 07:21 PM
Vettori out of 2nd test due to injury. :( Expect Gayle, Samuels to smash Nethula, even though vettori hasnt been taking wickets recently hes been keeping it tight but now have to select Nethula who isnt bowling too well.

F6_Turbo
August 1, 2012, 01:08 AM
NZ are going to really suffer when players like Vettori retire...the 'next generation' isn't looking too great.

Suppose they have the All-Blacks and Netball to fall back on

NoName
August 1, 2012, 12:20 PM
NZ are going to really suffer when players like Vettori retire...the 'next generation' isn't looking too great.

Suppose they have the All-Blacks and Netball to fall back on

Better rankings for us.

Sovik
August 2, 2012, 11:51 PM
Windies did well to restrict New Zealand under 300. Will there be another Gayle storm.

kiwibd
August 3, 2012, 11:09 AM
Windies did well to restrict New Zealand under 300. Will there be another Gayle storm.
Gayle dropped on 39 in 1st test, and made 150, now dropped on 2 :facepalm: knowing him he will blast a triple century now

NoName
August 3, 2012, 05:03 PM
Gayle's 50+ ball-8, I can't process lol.

kiwibd
August 4, 2012, 01:19 AM
WI - Gayle = not being able to score past 250 in all games in the tour he has failed for below 10...

cricheart
August 4, 2012, 05:24 PM
lol.. What a test match! We are most likely to see this match ending in 3 days! Both team in compitition to play worse batting here.

atm West Indies require another 72 runs with 6 wickets remaining

Scoreboard looks in favor of WI yet, still with considering 3 day long pathetic batting story cant bet for any team here. Either team winning here will be a remarkble test win.

cricheart
August 4, 2012, 05:34 PM
So, the match goes into fourth day at last.

deshimon
August 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
NZ are going to loose again.

Sovik
August 4, 2012, 11:34 PM
West Indies have Deonarine and Sammy who are capable of scoring runs. Not sure about Ramdin. Windies didn't have a decent wicket keeper batsman since Ridley Jacobs.

Tiger444
August 4, 2012, 11:45 PM
West Indies have Deonarine and Sammy who are capable of scoring runs. Not sure about Ramdin. Windies didn't have a decent wicket keeper batsman since Ridley Jacobs.

Its time Devon Thomas comes in. Ramdin seems to be a big headed guy when he just flat out sucks.
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Sovik
August 5, 2012, 11:23 AM
Windies have done it. 2-0. Great achievement. Congratulations to Windies and Darren Sammy

deshimon
August 5, 2012, 09:38 PM
Recent perfomance of NZ say they are playing hopeless cricket either Test or others

Gowza
August 5, 2012, 11:07 PM
good work from WI, NZ are hopeless atm though, they just rely to much on mccullum and taylor atm to score runs, williamson is a talent but hasn't got to that dependable stage as yet, guptil is ok but the rest aren't doing much. wagner has disappointed in his debut series and no vettori makes it tough for them. i'm sure both wagner and van wyk were expected to be dependable performers based on domestic records but they haven't been so far. flynn needs to be given sometime he's a solid player and will be one of the reliable ones if they give him the chance.