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shovon13
March 18, 2004, 02:31 PM
okkayyy.... as it seems after all the injury problem is gone, we might have to deal with a bigger problem. who's to open our bowling. masri is one of them no doubt, but who shud be his partner? i really like the one with talha, a lotta pace, only if talha can control himself.

didn't include monju, and hasibul mainly cause of the age factor.

chinaman
March 18, 2004, 03:16 PM
To be honest, I do not consider this as a problem. Pacers suffer from myriad of injuries from time to time. Instead of a single partnership, I think there will be a number of pacers sharing the new ball depending upon yet another set of factors.

shovon13
March 18, 2004, 04:24 PM
yeah thats true. i cant remember the last time all our pacers were in good health.

btw, i forgot about sharif. damn he's another good bowler. if u guys want to vote for masri and sharif, just vote others i guess.

Zephaniah
March 18, 2004, 04:25 PM
Masri, Talha, Shahadat and Tapash. Any of two, 'cause strong chance is you wont see all of 'em fit at the same time. Even one of the express bowler coming at first change isn't bad idea either depending on pitch. We need to create constant wicket taking threat when spinners are operating....

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Zephaniah]

paco
March 18, 2004, 04:30 PM
Has anyone seen shahadat ? is he fast ?

Rubu
March 18, 2004, 06:24 PM
interesting to see masri and shahadat got the maximum votes so far. i don't want shahadat until he can prove himself. he is playing in a team. lets see how he does there and then we can consider him for senior team. i guess he got the talent, but we might destroy him if we try to rush about him.

Nascer
March 18, 2004, 07:02 PM
[Edited on 6-9-2004 by Nascer]

Pundit
March 18, 2004, 08:00 PM
I am just starting to take interest in Shahadat !

Bur look at Talha's stats -

2nd best average among regular non-spin bowlers.

Best SR among regular non-spin bowlers.

billah
March 19, 2004, 02:49 AM
Good thing about Shahadat that pacers with his style generally get less injuries. He can generate pace without straining himself much.

shovon13
March 19, 2004, 04:29 AM
as zephaniah pointed out, i'd rather have another real pacer come in as the first change. maybe masri and talha could open, with tapash or shahadat coming in first change.

is it true that sharif can use the reverse swing? he could be really effective for us in the slog overs then.

Kalbaisakhi
March 19, 2004, 05:57 AM
Hey where is Manjurul Islam.We need Left handed bowler for openning pair.How u forgot about Manjurul.He also has talent to bowl in openning.

Lets think about him.

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Zephaniah
March 19, 2004, 07:57 AM
Monju lacks variation. Infact he bowls same delivery over and over again and at a mild fast-medium pace. Just look at ongoing India-Pakistan series and you'd see how they will slaughter him. Bar Zimbabwe, he doesn't worth a try somewhere else at the moment when we have/should have a pool of upcoming fast bowlers. But he could make a good stock bowler.

FaltuRidwanBhai
March 19, 2004, 01:24 PM
jaihok,
kalbaishakhi bhai, mone hochhe apnio amar moton monju ar akjon fan. zephaniah bhai apni kintu bolechen je monju lacks variation. kothata hoito shotti. kintu moju ghontar por ghonta line ebong length bojai rekeh boling korte pare. jar jonno test a kintu akhono tini onnanno notun bolerder theke agiye. tachara mone hoi test a akhono tini bangladesher hoye shob cheye beshi wicket labh korechen ebong jiboner prothom test a tini kintu 6ti wicket labh korechen. orthat monju kintu ashole khub akta kharap boler noi. tobe monjur akta durbhaggo jeta sheta hochhe keno jani tini coach ar drishti akorshon korte bertho hochhen. jar jonno dol a thekeo kintu tini khub akta beshi match khelte parchen na. tobe kothata thik monjur speed kintu khub akta beshi na. tobe akjon bolechen je boyosher karon tini monju ebong hasibul ke bad diben. amar kintu mone hoina monjur boyosh khub beshi. amar mone hoi akjon fast boler ar ja boyosh howa uchit akhon monju kintu shai boyesher modhhai achen. jai hok tobe monju jodi tar boling a aro kintu boichitro ante paren ebong tini jodi bat chalate paren bhalo tahole kintu nishoi tini dol a ashte parben. dole akjon bam hati boler rakha bhalo kintu jodi mashrafee fire ashe tokhon kintu monjur dol a dhoka abar kothin hoye jabe. tobe shahadat tini kintu mone hochhe khub bhalo akjon boler. atleast speed dekhe tai mone hochhe. echarao talhao khub bhalo boler. tobe taderke amar mone hoi ar o kichu shomoy dite hobe. echarao jar kotha na bollai noi shai shareef. durbhaggo tar. injury jeno take akre dhorechen. tini kintu khub bhalo boler. tar boleo kintu jotheshto goti royeche. shobai jodi thik thak moton injury katiye fire ashe tahole amar mone hoi je agami ak dui bochorer modhhe amader pace attack kichuta holeo shara jagate parbe. dannabad.

Mahmood
March 19, 2004, 02:17 PM
For now, definitly Masri and Taposh. In 2-3 years, may be shahadat, may be someone else who will rock BD cricket like Masri did coming out from no where.

FaltuRidwanBhai
March 19, 2004, 05:16 PM
ji bhai ai mashrafee ta kintu khub interesting. kotha nai barta nai kotha theke hut hat kore eshe dhum dham bolling korlo. ar amon speed ami to pura obak. aki rokom ashraful. i mean or ashar styleta. kotha nai barta nai. kotheke ak bachha polapain aisha akdom jiboner prothom test match a century kore fello. erokom notun notun discovery kintu bhaloi lage. asha kori bhobishhoteo erokom notun notun chomok ashbe ebong shobaike tak lagiye dibe. tobe durbhagger bishoy hochhe tara joto taratari ashe abar thiki toto taratari zhore pore kono na kono karone. asha korbo ar por jara ashbe tara shudhu eshai chole jabe na. tara thakbe onekdin. dolke onek shafoller dike niye jabe. tobe mashrafee ebong ashraful zhore jai nai. asha korbo mashrafee khub shighroi abar shushtho hoye ashbe ebong asha kori ashraful abar niyomito bat a run pabe. dannabad.

shovon13
March 19, 2004, 05:56 PM
errrr.....i didn't include monju cuz we had a lefty in tapash already. come on, we all know tapash is a better bowler than monju. like raj vai said, monju lacks the variation. when u're facing gilchrist (or someone like that), line and length wont get u anywhere. these guys can take the most perfect bowl and smash it over the gallery. lol anyways.....

FaltuRidwanBhai
March 19, 2004, 08:40 PM
ok then i guess we can bring aziz and alamgir... the third class bolers who can automatically increase the oponents run by giving some wides and no bolls. thank you.

shovon13
March 20, 2004, 05:10 AM
ridwan vai has a point, monju has more control than aziz and kabir. thats probably why they wont get in the team either. but i had them in my list because they can take wickets (sometimes), and they have time to improve (they're young).
although they haven't improved a bit for a long time now....

FaltuRidwanBhai
March 20, 2004, 10:47 AM
shovon bhai,
i agree completely with you with the fact that aziz and kabir are young and they still have time to improve. time is not gone for them. they have just started. kintu akhon amader joto notun notun boler ashtese notun notun ato genuin fast boler ashtese je amar mone hoi na je aziz kingba kabir tara jodi aro notun kichu boichitro na ane tader boling a tahole kintu tader jonno dol a tika mushkil hoye jabe. dannabad.

Zephaniah
March 20, 2004, 11:47 AM
Masri, Tapash, Talha, Shahadat, Sharif - genuine prospect in pace bowling department. They have or can have what it takes to succeed.

al Furqaan
March 20, 2004, 12:01 PM
why are all you guys putting tapash on the opening pair with masri? i admit that shahadat is untested in real international matches, so at first we should not open with shahadat...but eventually we should put him in with masri...it will be our version of the akhtar/sami duo. tapash should be on all teams as he can contribute to the team...but to put him over shahadat when he gives up 5-6 inches in height is ridculous. the way ppl are talkin about shahadat, he may be bettr than masri in a few years, specially if he is healthy. we need shahadat in the WI tour.

shovon13
March 20, 2004, 04:03 PM
of course shahadat will get the nod ahead of tapash, only after he's gotten the exposure. we've seen it too many times that we rushed someone to the international stage, just to lose his talent. and lets not forget about talha and sharif either. they're good. (lol in one word)

Zobair
March 20, 2004, 07:27 PM
so I can't comment on this poll...fahmida....you must have seen the whole lot by now...can you give us your insights...or McInnes could give us an expert opinion about them.

Optimist
March 20, 2004, 09:27 PM
Are not we building little bit too much too early! IMHO at the moment Shahadat is not even at par with Tarek Aziz and Alamgir Kabir; let alone Taposh. If he is thrown into WI his whole carrer will be put on risk. I bet that he will be thrashed to pieces by any world class team right now. Who bowled better against Zimbawbe A? Alamgir Kabir or Shahdat? Shahdat's time will come. Let him mature through National League and A team matches. Right now the selectors are doing a great job.........They are the best we ever had. The way they are handling Nafees, Enamul, Alamgir, Tarek is brilliant. I am sure they will be very careful with Shahdat. Didn't we see what happened to Sharif, Masri, Talha? Fast bowlers need extreme care. Shadat is no exception. He may go to WI but just to gain experience.

[Edited on 21-3-2004 by Optimist]

James90
March 21, 2004, 12:01 AM
Firstly you have to be in the team. And the only two who have earned that is Mashrafe and Tapash. And I like them bowling together. The pace of Mashrafe and the line and length of Tapash. If it's not broke don't fix it

sage
March 21, 2004, 05:19 AM
What is the justification saying Tareq and Kabir are third class bowler. Kabir is tha man of the match in the test against Zim A in which Sahadat also played and Tareq contributed well in the Zim win in ODI and in against Zim A. If they are that bad then how come they are getting success. I havn't seen either of them bowling.

Ahmed_B
March 21, 2004, 05:52 AM
can anyone please post comparative statistics on these bowlers atleast on these factors??

-Speed-average and highest (very important factor)
-Career Ecomomy
-Average Wickets per match

lets talk on statistics pls!