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mufi_02
September 12, 2012, 04:09 PM
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‘শুরু না করলে কিছুই হবে না’
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক | তারিখ: ১৩-০৯-২০১২

হবে হবে করে বিপিএল হয়ে গেছে। তারিখ পড়ে গেছে ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিভিত তিক প্রথম শ্রেণীর ক্রিকেট শুরুরও। কিন্তু তাড়াহুড়ার ফল কী হয়, সেটা তো বিপিএল-পরবর্তী ঘটনাবলিতেই জানা! ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিভিত তিক জাতীয় লিগেও সেটি হবে না তো? বিসিবি সভাপতি আ হ ম মুস্তফা কামাল কথা বলেছেন এসব নিয়েই

 ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিভিত তিক জাতীয় লিগ শুরুর আর মাত্র এক মাস বাকি। কত দূর এগোলেন?
আ হ ম মুস্তফা কামাল: কিছুটা এগিয়েছি। ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি বিক্রির ব্যাপারে অনেকের সঙ্গে কথা বলেছি। এখন এটাকে আনুষ্ঠানিকতায় রূপ দিতে হবে। নভেম্বরে ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের বিপক্ষে হোম সিরিজের সময় জাতীয় দলের খেলোয়াড়দের বাদ দিয়ে খেলতে হবে ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিদের খেলা বন্ধ থাকবে না।

 এখনো তো অনেক কাজ বাকি। ১৪ অক্টোবর থেকেই কি লিগ শুরু করা সম্ভব?
মুস্তফা কামাল: ১৪ অক্টোবর থেকেই শুরু করব। এক দিনের জন্যও শৈথিল্য দেখালে হবে না। সবাই যে এর পক্ষে আছে, আমি তা বলব না। তবে আমাদের বোর্ড এখন উপলব্ধি করছে, এটা করা দরকার এবং আমরা করব।

 এখন পর্যন্ত কয়টি ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি পাওয়ার ব্যাপারে নিশ্চিত হয়েছেন?
মুস্তফা কামাল: ছয়-সাতটি প্রতিষ্ঠানের সঙ্গে কথা হয়েছে। তবে আমরা কমপক্ষে চারটি ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি দিয়ে শুরু করব। অন্তত চারটি ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি পাওয়ার ব্যাপারে আমি নিশ্চিত। সব দলের ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি না পেলে বাকি দলগুলোর খরচ বোর্ড বহন করবে।

 কোনো দল ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি হবে, কোনোটা হবে না। এভাবে শুরু করলে কি ভালো হবে? দলগুলোর সুযোগ-সুবিধা, খেলোয়াড়দের পারিশ্রমিকের ব্যাপার আছে...
মুস্তফা কামাল: সমস্যা হবে না। বাকিদের খরচ বোর্ড চালাবে। ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি যে পরিমাণ টাকা দেবে, আমরাও তাই দেব। খেলোয়াড়দের ম্যাচ ফি, বিদেশি খেলোয়াড়ের খরচ—সব বোর্ড দেবে।

 প্রতি দলে কয়জন করে বিদেশি খেলোয়াড় থাকবেন?
মুস্তফা কামাল: দুজন করে। বিদেশি একজনকে অবশ্যই পেস বোলার হতে হবে। ভালো পেসারদের খেলে আমাদের ব্যাটসম্যানেরা শিখুক।

 ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি কত করে বিক্রি করছেন?
মুস্তফা কামাল: প্রতিটি ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি প্রতিবছর ৫০ লাখ টাকা করে দেবে বিসিবিকে। এই টাকা দিয়ে আমরা ম্যাচের দিনের খাওয়া খরচ, ম্যাচ রেফারি, আম্পায়ারদের খরচ, মাঠ-উইকেট ঠিক রাখার কাজ করব।

 শুরুতে বলা হয়েছিল, ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিদের জাতীয় লিগ হবে অঞ্চলভিত্তিক। কিন্তু এখন তো সেই জাতীয় লিগের মতো বিভাগীয় দলগুলোই খেলবে...
মুস্তফা কামাল: না, এখনো অঞ্চলভিত্তিকই হবে। ঢাকা মেট্রোপলিটনসহ জাতীয় লিগের আটটি বিভাগীয় দলকে অঞ্চল ধরে লিগ হবে। আগামী ১০ বছর এই আটটি দলই খেলবে। দেশে বিভাগ বাড়লেও দল আর বাড়বে না। নতুন বিভাগ হলেও তারা আট অঞ্চলের কোনোটির আওতায়ই থাকবে।

 আগে জাতীয় লিগ হোম অ্যান্ড অ্যাওয়ে পদ্ধতিতে হলেও কয়েক বছর ধরে তা হচ্ছে না। ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজিভিত তিক জাতীয় লিগে কি ফিরবে হোম অ্যান্ড অ্যাওয়ে?
মুস্তফা কামাল: হোম অ্যান্ড অ্যাওয়ে পদ্ধতিতেই হবে। তবে এবার সব কটি মাঠ তৈরি করতে পারিনি। এবার ছয়টা মাঠে খেলা হবে। সে জন্য কিছু কিছু দল নিজের মাঠে খেলার সুবিধা পেলেও আক্ষরিক অর্থে এবার হোম অ্যান্ড অ্যাওয়ে পদ্ধতি হবে না। আগামীবার থেকে পুরোপুরি হোম অ্যান্ড অ্যাওয়ে পদ্ধতিতে খেলা হবে।

 বিপিএল তাড়াহুড়া করে শুরু করায় কিছু সমস্যা হয়েছে, যার জের টানতে হচ্ছে এখনো। সে আশঙ্কা তো এখানেও থাকছে...
মুস্তফা কামাল: আগে শুরু করতে হবে। শুরু করলে ভুলভ্রান্তি হবেই। ভুলভ্রান্তি পরে সংশোধন করে নেব। এটাই নিয়ম। শুরু না করলে কিছুই হবে না। যেদিনই শুরু করেন, ভুল হবেই হবে। পরিকল্পনা করা আর পরিকল্পনা বাস্তবায়ন করা সম্পূর্ণ আলাদা। কাজ নিয়ে মাঠে নামার পর সমস্যা হবেই। কিন্তু না নামলে তো বুঝতেই পারবেন না সমস্যাটা কোথায়।[/বাংলা]

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BCB wants 2 foreign players and one of them has to be a fast bowler.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-09-13/news/288991

Max100
September 12, 2012, 05:06 PM
I like his initiative, pace bowler inclusion is another positive thing. I used to hate him but i start liking him gradually

Max100
September 12, 2012, 05:07 PM
Pace bowler should be from pakistan, south africa or australia. I hope they get well known name, not discarded or retired pacer

AsifTheManRahman
September 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
[বাংলা]

 প্রতি দলে কয়জন করে বিদেশি খেলোয়াড় থাকবেন?
মুস্তফা কামাল: দুজন করে। বিদেশি একজনকে অবশ্যই পেস বোলার হতে হবে। ভালো পেসারদের খেলে আমাদের ব্যাটসম্যানেরা শিখুক।

Lotus uncle er moto kore amader cricket ke keu bujhe na. He is the true father of Bangladesh cricket.

Nadim
September 12, 2012, 05:34 PM
Lotus uncle er moto kore amader cricket ke keu bujhe na. He is the true father of Bangladesh cricket.

Hey Hey Ershad mama ei kotha ta shunle kintu attohotta korbe :facepalm::ohno:

AsifTheManRahman
September 12, 2012, 05:35 PM
Ershad is a khokababu compared to what Lotus does for our cricket night and day.

Naimul_Hd
September 12, 2012, 06:19 PM
I am with Lota mama too. Egiye jao mama, amra achi tomar piche !!!

OMG
September 12, 2012, 07:05 PM
This guy seems to be making good changes. He looks very interested and capable of taking BD cricket forward. I dont know much about the politics apart from stuff I read about him on BC. Even if he is a bit dodgy he still seems to be taking positive action.

auntu
September 12, 2012, 11:11 PM
I'm with Lotus for the first time. You have to be bold.
Go Lotus go.

Shafir
September 12, 2012, 11:22 PM
Translation anybody? I can't read bengali

Rabz
September 13, 2012, 01:21 AM
Good initiative, but I'm not too sure about having 'foreign' pacers in the domestic league.

Reasons:

1. We already don't have good pacers in the country. The only way to produce is to give more players a chance to grow and develop as a pace bowler. But if we are to import a foreign pacer it would mean one prospective Bangladeshi guy missing out and dropping out.

One outsider in means one of our local boys out.

That way you actually decrease the number of pacer prospect and discourage young bowlers esp at a time when we already discouraging young boys to take up pace bowling given the nature of our pitches and playing conditions.

In the long run, we will actually face even an acute shortage of pace bowlers in the team.

2. We are really not going to import Dale Steyns and Umal Guls to play in our domestic league.
At best it would be some B or C grade domestic player from India/Pakistan. With a slow and low pitch, facing those inferior quality bowlers will not really make our batsman Steyn-ready.

Having two foreign players is not a bad thing, but putting a "pacer must" clause, I'm not too sure.

It is exactly what happened with our football. Most of the foreign players in the domestic circuit are strikers and hence when our national team in action, we see an acute shortage of good strikers. We have only Emily/Anamul and even they can't strike in force due to lack of proper opportunity at club level.

F6_Turbo
September 13, 2012, 01:24 AM
@ Shafir - translation of sorts

-Preparations for the National League are ongoing, the league won't be suspended when the West Indies tour Bangladesh in November - teams will simply continue without the National team players.

-League starts on the 14th of October, not everyone is happy with the date, but the Board feel the league has to commence, and sitting around won't do any good.

-Board has spoken to 6-7 companies/organizations about becoming franchise owners, they're confident of having 4 on board by the time the league starts, the other 4 will be funded by the board, until owners are found.

-The Board funded teams will receive similar financial support as the privately owned teams, match fees, salary of foreign marquee player etc etc

-2 foreign players per franchise, ONE has to be a pace bowler - hopefully it'll help to develop our batting against pace.

-Each franchise is being sold for BDT 50lakh - Board will use the money for the running of the National League

-The size of the league won't change for the next '10 years', it'll be based on 8 Regions rather than Divisions.

-The format of the league will be home & away as with the previous set up, but only 6 stadiums are ready to go this year...so it won't be a 'true' home & away league schedule, but that should be fixed next year.

-Starting the BPL in such a short time meant there were a myriad of problems, and the new National League will potentially face similar problems...but it's better to get started and learn from our mistakes than sitting on our fat arses and planning away for years and years, while doing nothing constructive.

Naimul_Hd
September 13, 2012, 01:34 AM
@ rabz bhai.... I understand what you meant.

But playing along side with a foreign fast bowler (surely teams will recruit better quality fast bowlers), our local young pace bowlers will learn from them. Just think, if teams can recruit couple of good Pakistani pace bowlers then our local bowlers will have the opportunity to observe him in the nets. Local pacers can discuss their problems and can learn few tricks too. Its all good for long term. Yes, may be one local pacer from a team will be deprived from playing the game for this season, but if you ask me, then i would say its a good 'trade off' !

Its more of an experimental project. Lets see how things go in this season.

thebest
September 13, 2012, 04:34 AM
regarding pacer/ striker analogy though appropriate at first glance but really not correct. Why - in my time nobody wanted to be Munna everybody wanted to be aslam or sabbir. this time I think everybody wanted to be Messi or Ronaldo no body wanted to be lahm or terry. So when our Messies are not getting chance they are lost. However in my time we were equally divided in Nannu/ Akram or Prince/ Saiful camp are rather I say wanted to become Imran or Richards. that means there are clear division. ask a kid who they want to be?(i have very small sample of my five nephew one want to be Tamim, three wanted to be Sakib and other one mushfiq). None wanted to be pacer. So it is cultural thing. We would be land of SLA. If we want to have battery of pacers then we have to make our pitches pacer friendly. Initially it may benefit lower grade pacer (just like today's low grade SLAs) but in the long run we would get decent pacer and we do not have to depend on foreign pacer in our domestic leagues.

thebest
September 13, 2012, 04:41 AM
Rabz, when you are talking about quota somebody would miss out - be it bowler or batsman. I have little regard for the A grade pacer of SL and India (Malinga is a spent force; Zaheer never was). and I do not think a B grade pacer from Aus/NZ/ Eng/ SAF/ Zim could do anything in our pitches. However even a B grade pacer from Pak or WI could teach our B, C even A grade pacer due to similarity of our pitches. To do avoid the sitution BCB may instruct every team must have a certain number of local pacer (ideally 4; but could be 2) in their roaster of 25. what I am worried about lack of offie and abundance of SLA. If I have the power I would instruct the teams to have an out and out offie playing in 50% of the matches and make the pitches a little difficult for SLA to operate

Rabz
September 13, 2012, 05:31 AM
I'm concerned about the quality of pace bowlers we might get. This is not club cricket format where the clubs operate with unrestricted budget and we can get an international players for couple of games to make some quick impact.

We are talking about a player for the whole/part season and looking at someone committing for better part of the year at our domestic league and local environment of living and playing.

If the franchisees are paying TK 5 Million, ie, roughly around USD 60,000 per year for the administrative, operational and misc cost for one team and then we add few more from BCB's pocket, how much are we looking at paying those international players ?? Not a significant amount.

With that money, at best, we'll get Pakistani B/C grade pacers and I'm not sure how much our bowlers will learn from playing alongside someone of their own or worse caliber. A good Indian pacer is an oxymoron and not sure if I'll be getting excited about any Sri Lankan prospect. The best I can think of is someone like Hamid Hassan of Afghanistan, but having an associate bowler to fill the missing gaps in our pace industry doesn't really look good on us.

More so, even if you can manage to get some decent ones, I doubt our players ability to mingle and to learn from them, citing reference from Ian Pont's comment on how he was surprised to see the local players not really taking the opportunity to learn from their international colleagues and their lack of eagerness to learn few tricks of the trade. Offcourse it could be different for players from Pakistan/India due to linguistic factor, but then again, as I mentioned, there might not be much to learn from those who would accept to come and play in Bangladesh for a lengthy period.

At this point, these are all my concerns and guess we'll have to wait and see who we the administrators can finally manage to rope in.

Rifat
September 13, 2012, 05:49 AM
my choice for pacers:

Hamid Hassan(may not be available)
Boyd Rankin
Mohammad Asif
Mohammad Amer
Farveez Maharoof
Malinga(not lasith, he may not be available)
Dinesh Chandimal
a couple of pace prospects from England (who are good enough to play for the A team, but not good enough for National Team) remember it is off season in England during October- April...so taking the English route may be a very good idea.
Fast Bowlers from West Indies and Zimbabwe would be very nice
Shane Bond(not as good as he used to be... but he is vastly experienced)


Rabz bhai is right, it is very highly unlikely that we will get pacers who are international class simply due to the budget in addition to super heavy International Schedule...so even if we can afford to have someone like James Anderson or Tim Bresnan play in our domestic league, they will most probably be involved in international duty.

there are many quality pacers from South Africa and a few from Australia and England and Sri Lanka who are good enough but don't make the cut to play for the national team...

Rifat
September 13, 2012, 05:51 AM
IF these things actually happen then all my support and Love goes to Lotus Kamal :big_hug:

simon
September 13, 2012, 06:02 AM
Lootus uncle is indeed a great persona.
he is doing everything right,specially since BPL he did some good things. :up:

Rabz
September 13, 2012, 06:25 AM
^^ All these big talks because election is due in November.
That's why
-The rush in getting all these on time.
- No delay in start of NCL.
- Domestic players under BCB payroll.
- Roll out map of BPL 2.
- Few more big plans (upcoming).

I'd be glad if there are continuation of these processes in next couple of seasons.

dash
September 13, 2012, 06:38 AM
Rabz Bhai I doubt that the results of the election actually depends whether you do anything good or not....it's al about club politics and parks for district votes

simon
September 13, 2012, 07:00 AM
Tai naki Robi bhai ¿
Ebhabe bhabini.
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MarufH
September 13, 2012, 09:49 AM
I think looking back at last few years, Lotas did some amazing work with BD cricket. I am not gonna comment on his political stance, that's a different conversation for a different forum.

Some of the things I can recall:

- Pulled off BPL in matter of days
- Successfully hosted WC '11
- Annual contracts to first class players
- Now franchising first class cricket
- Hired Richard Pybus
- Re-hired Richard McInnes
- Hired Saqlain
- Hired Ian/Julien before WC '11
- Gave away some of the BPL earnings to former cricketers

I am not part of BCB or no way affiliated with it. I just wanted to remind some of us that he has been taking initiative. I like his visionary mentality like [বাংলা]"শুরু না করলে কিছুই হবে না " [/বাংলা] Now, I am not saying he did not make mistakes. There are plenty of things he did wrong. For a starter, having issues with Shakib and Tamim and BPL payment saga. But mistakes happens, and thats what makes us human. Important thing is he is taking initiative to improve BD cricket. And I am happy with that.

AsifTheManRahman
September 13, 2012, 10:06 AM
It's a start. If we get B grade Pakistani bowlers today, we might get A grade NZ bowlers tomorrow, who knows? Even the DPL back in the 90's used to attract the likes of Wasim Akram. Granted, this isn't the DPL, the money isn't great and top players have busier schedules and better sources of income, but if the franchise system takes off, there will be more money in the NCL in the future.

Our pitches are what they are and will be for the foreseeable future. But playing a B grade pacer from the West Indies on them is still better than playing an Abul from Bangladesh. We won't be Steyn ready, but really, is anyone Steyn ready these days? It will take years (maybe more than a decade) before we can start to compare the quality of our FC system to that of the top international teams and that goes for all aspects of the game, not just the kind of fast bowlers our batsmen face. So this is a start, if nothing else.

roman
September 13, 2012, 10:50 AM
To be honest I am loving what Kamal is doing..Doesn't matter if he is doing it for the upcoming election or not. Our cricket will be benefited from it and that's what matters

. But one thing is still bothering me. Why he is still not taking any initiatives to improve the quality of the pitches? We all have been demanding for a sporting wicket for so long, even the players have talked about it several times specially when they go on a tour. You can't play pacers if you don't play on a sporting wicket. Your foot movement will always have problems if you play on a slow and low pitches. Gotta have green top wickets kamal bhai..

M.H.Rubel
September 13, 2012, 11:16 AM
Some people are happy with the deeds of Lotus here.I am also saying that he have started to do some positive things. He is here to do positive things.Lot of negative things have done by him.He is here for around 3.5 years.Lot of things he could have done......
1.Why is he delaying to make regional cricket boards?
2. Why he have not taken any initiative to make board president election system?
3. Why there is little ex players in the board?

All 3 issues i have mentioned above are very vital for our cricket.He never tried anything do those jobs means all his deeds are just show.

riad
September 13, 2012, 11:47 AM
Well some people see a half glass of water as "half empty" and some see "half full".
Can we all see that as just a "half glass of water" please .....


Some people are happy with the deeds of Lotus here.I am also saying that he have started to do some positive things. He is here to do positive things.Lot of negative things have done by him.He is here for around 3.5 years.Lot of things he could have done......
1.Why is he delaying to make regional cricket boards?
2. Why he have not taken any initiative to make board president election system?
3. Why there is little ex players in the board?

All 3 issues i have mentioned above are very vital for our cricket.He never tried anything do those jobs means all his deeds are just show.

Max100
September 13, 2012, 11:58 AM
My pacer list

Kemar roach
Sajid mahmood
Simon jones
Ajmal shehjad
Jerome taylor
Wayne parnell
Alfonso thomas
Boyd rankin
Hamid hasan
Tanvir ahmed from pak
Aizaz cheema
Yasir arafat
Dilhara fernando
Umar gul
Fiedel edwards

Most are not 1st choice for national team, so they will be available, except associates players