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shuziburo
September 20, 2012, 09:49 AM
Mushfiq has not excelled as a captain. Shakib used to make mistakes, but at least used his head. Mushfiq cannot think outside the box. Hell, he does not even know the box! I don't think he has ever read Mike Brearley's The Art of Captaincy, which should be the required reading for all skippers.
Richie Benaud's said, "Captaincy is 90% luck, only 10% skill - but don't try it without the 10%." Mushfiqur is lacking in these 10%, I think. He is a great chirper behind the stamps, though!
jeesh
September 20, 2012, 10:01 AM
Unfortunately he has to continue the role because there is no one else to take it. Let Shakib focus on his batting and bowling.
He seems to be a good motivator and people person. He just needs to figure out the tactical bit of the game better.
shuziburo
September 20, 2012, 10:26 AM
Unfortunately he has to continue the role because there is no one else to take it. Let Shakib focus on his batting and bowling.
He seems to be a good motivator and people person. He just needs to figure out the tactical bit of the game better.
I wish he does, but I don't know whether he has the knack. His captaincy has not improved one bit since he started.
crikss
September 20, 2012, 10:31 AM
I say bring back Ashraful as captain :D (we got No option except Mushi )
NoName
September 20, 2012, 10:44 AM
If Ash is captain, he'll lose the ability to even score 20+ runs.
SS
September 20, 2012, 10:52 AM
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I just clearly see that he is big candidate of LBW or getting bowled...I would not have complained if he was in good form but offform batsmen clearly will get out if he can not connect or see the ball properly playing this type of shot before getting set...and there is no time to get set in t20
AsifTheManRahman
September 20, 2012, 11:31 AM
SS bhai, tension koiren na, he's probably just flicking one that's pitched up down the legside/off his pads, not a very risky shot.
Don't worry, in the real game he'll get bowled trying to cut one that pitches on off and spins back into the stumps.
reyme
September 20, 2012, 12:46 PM
I say bring back Ashraful as captain :D (we got No option except Mushi )
I remeber whem Ash was the captain he opened the bowling in the A team tour in West Indies and ended up bowling more overs than others!
Mushy should be guided by Pybus. Coach should be in charge of the gameplan, not the captain. Captain should just execute, and if he is making mistake, the coach must act right away to send him messages during the game. Otherwise the coach might as well just stay in the hotel and watch the game on TV or watch a movie instead.
MohammedC
September 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Mushy is doing fine. Beside we have not seen enough of him in test matches and thats where he will learn more.
SS
September 20, 2012, 01:00 PM
SS bhai, tension koiren na, he's probably just flicking one that's pitched up down the legside/off his pads, not a very risky shot.
Don't worry, in the real game he'll get bowled trying to cut one that pitches on off and spins back into the stumps.
hmmm...hoito thik koisen bhai...probably the bowler was Razzak bowling armer on the leg side!!! taie boli practice matcher shot ken kame lagena in real match!!
Gowza
September 20, 2012, 09:05 PM
i think atm mushy is a good choice for captain for BD, the other option would be riyad. shakib is better focusing on his game rather than captaincy, and we need his A game so that's important. tamim just doesn't seem like a captain. mash is always injured and no longer consistently at his best, razzak isn't as consistently at his best either and hasn't got a fixed spot in the team with sunny breaking through over the last 12 months. everyone else is either to inconsistent, not captain material or to inexperienced.
but you do wonder where mushy's game would be right now had he not taken on captaincy, originally i thought it helped his game, got him more focused, more gritty and determined but he's lost form and is struggling now.
zinatf
September 20, 2012, 09:09 PM
I remeber whem Ash was the captain he opened the bowling in the A team tour in West Indies and ended up bowling more overs than others!
Mushy should be guided by Pybus. Coach should be in charge of the gameplan, not the captain. Captain should just execute, and if he is making mistake, the coach must act right away to send him messages during the game. Otherwise the coach might as well just stay in the hotel and watch the game on TV or watch a movie instead.
I remember Law was doing this during Asia Cup. He was regularly sending Anamul or others at the bench as messengers during intervals...
Night_wolf
September 20, 2012, 09:34 PM
mushy is sometimes clueless as a captain, in the afg match where all the spinners bowled well he didn't give a single ball to mullah rather he bowled full quota of mash and shafiul, mash and shafi went for 9 a over each, if mullah was given 2-3 overs of mash and shafi at least 10 runs would have been saved(all the spinners went for 4 or less)..against afg this didn't hurt us but against kiwi or pak 10 runs will be the difference maker
22Yards
September 20, 2012, 09:42 PM
mushy is sometimes clueless as a captain, in the afg match where all the spinners bowled well he didn't give a single ball to mullah rather he bowled full quota of mash and shafiul, mash and shafi went for 9 a over each, if mullah was given 2-3 overs of mash and shafi at least 10 runs would have been saved(all the spinners went for 4 or less)..against afg this didn't hurt us but against kiwi or pak 10 runs will be the difference maker
Or may be he was focusing on the KEY word here which is PRACTICE ?
if he was indeed then fine but yeah if he was total clueless about it thats not acceptable.
MarufH
September 21, 2012, 06:32 AM
My word.. every time BD was doing well, Mushy managed to bring Shafiul on and give the game away.
simon
September 21, 2012, 06:36 AM
My word.. every time BD was doing well, Mushy managed to bring Shafiul on and give the game away.
Bhai noneed to blame Mushy
he made changes but every one suked.
Bowlers let us down today
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MarufH
September 21, 2012, 07:18 AM
Bhai noneed to blame Mushy
he made changes but every one suked.
Bowlers let us down today
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Bhai.. I watched the game and this is what I saw...
Over 4 - 21/1 Bowled by Razzaq 2 runs given (gets a wicket)
Over 5 - 29/1 Bowled by Mashrafe 8 runs given
Over 6 - 34/1 Bowled by Razzaq 5 runs given
In comes Shafiul
Over 7 - 45/1 Bowled by Shafiul 11 runs given
I think that was the starting point for McCullum going wild. I mean everyone knows how good he is against pace.
Over 15 123/2 Bowled my Mashrafe 10 runs given but gets a wicket
Over 16 128/2 Bowled by Shakib 5 runs given
In comes Shafiul
Over 17 143/2 Bowled by Shafiul 15 runs given.
... Rest is history.
Just my observation.
Naimul_Hd
September 21, 2012, 07:32 AM
What will he do if Sunny gives short pitch ball, Shakib gives juicy full tosses, Shafiul gives half length ball one after another ? All of them were asking for trouble and they all got what they deserved !
Kohli_Sox
September 21, 2012, 08:01 AM
Must say about the bowling rotation; still don't understand some of the bowling rotations made
ahnaf
September 21, 2012, 08:09 AM
I still dont get it why he choose to bowl first..
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Gowza
September 21, 2012, 08:17 AM
Should have batted first.
firstlane
September 21, 2012, 08:18 AM
Yeah Definitely.
nadim 98
September 21, 2012, 08:19 AM
Played 15+ WU games for this game. Didn't used Nasir/Zia or even Ash with the bowl coz other bowlers was doing gd. Now bujo moja. ajke ki hoilo? pathetic!
WU games er meaning o buje ei pola ta:smh:
NoName
September 21, 2012, 08:20 AM
Yeah Definitely.
Hi Mushfiq
Habib
September 21, 2012, 08:20 AM
It's easy to say we should've batted first now that we have lost. Mushy did the right thing since it was an overcast condition and we are better at chasing. Alas our bowling had gone to dogs today.
Kohli_Sox
September 21, 2012, 08:24 AM
Really hardly any plan executed; too many cooks always spoil the broth.
WarWolf
September 21, 2012, 08:27 AM
Bowling rotation was not good. He needs to think more. The coach should assist him in live matches whenever he gets a chance to send message.
22Yards
September 21, 2012, 08:28 AM
It's easy to say we should've batted first now that we have lost. Mushy did the right thing since it was an overcast condition and we are better at chasing. Alas our bowling had gone to dogs today.
The wicket may have something for the pacers at the beginning but we have no morkel or steyn to rely on. So i wouldnt put my money on seamers rather play out first few overs carefully and then walk the park at pellekele.
Rabz
September 21, 2012, 08:29 AM
Even Taylor wanted to bowl first in the overcast condition.
Rifat H
September 21, 2012, 08:36 AM
Captain nijei pressure a venge pore, dolke ar ki kore lead korbe !! Ore captaincy theke sorano uchit . Shakib ar Nasir ar moddhe akjonke captaincy dea uchit
SS
September 21, 2012, 08:42 AM
accha bujlam thik decision hoi nai field nia..are bhai bat ta to thik koira korte parti...agei koisilam he is now off form and will continue the entire tour...chul felai dewa uchit
Night_wolf
September 21, 2012, 08:46 AM
mushy is worse then ash..at least ash played eid innings
mufi_02
September 21, 2012, 08:47 AM
I watched the match till 14 overs and I haven't seen once Mushy coming up to the bowlers and saying something. Cmon boy, you gotta lead!! You can't stay behind the stumps and give a disappointed look every time Kalam hits a boundary.
Everyone lacked intensity in the field. Overall body language was very poor. I don't know what they ate before the game. They all looked tired and lazy as if they are missing the dupurer ghum.
simon
September 21, 2012, 09:01 AM
eto chillaya to labh nai, amader team e kono world class T20 player nai, thakle ordinary captaincy o xtra ordinary lagto.
But ya if he can't score runs he should face consequences.
22Yards
September 21, 2012, 09:06 AM
I dont mind his toss decision as much as his inability to think outside the box being reassured in this game. He is too conventional as a captain. He tries to bowl out seamers, he likes to think seamers are front line bowlers and so we have to always fall back to them no matter if we are doing good or bad at a particular stage.
Ofcourse now bangladesh is a spin heavy attack so you have to use your not so good pacers well. That change he made at the seventh over bringing shafiul in is unfathomable. He doesnt use part times wisely, heck he doesnt probably know they exist.
I feel we need variety in our bowling. The SLAs are getting too repetitive. Plus we need rubel badly in our team. Mash bowled pretty well today.
oronnya
September 21, 2012, 09:08 AM
eto chillaya to labh nai, amader team e kono world class T20 player nai, thakle ordinary captaincy o xtra ordinary lagto.
But ya if he can't score runs he should face consequences.
ei kothata ami mani... captain /coach er dosh diye labh achhe jokhon player ra kono plan execute korte na pare... Mushy the captain er cheye Mushy the player er dosh eikhane beshi... Mushy'r off form is hurting us bad.. You will have those days when both Shakib and Tamim will fail and that's the time players like Mushy, Nasir or Riyad should come forward and share the responsibility.. Nasir did it but for a team like BD you need contribution from everyone which is not happening.. No point in blaming the captaincy when batting, bowling, fielding everything went wrong..
WarWolf
September 21, 2012, 10:39 AM
It's easy to say we should've batted first now that we have lost. Mushy did the right thing since it was an overcast condition and we are better at chasing. Alas our bowling had gone to dogs today.
He failed to rotate his bowlers properly. He forgot how to bat as well.
Ajfar
September 21, 2012, 11:43 AM
I didn't see the game, but I followed on cricinfo. Looked like we had things somewhat under control up till 9-10 overs, NZ was still going at 7 runs an over. And than it went downhill. I thought the bowling changes were ok, bowlers need to take their fair share of blame. Shakib and Razzak was saved for the end, which makes sense. Our most experienced bowler. Mash bowles ok at the beginning. He even tried out Riyad for one over didn't work. I don't think bowling change wise there isn't much a captain do when even your best bowler is not delivering. Can't comment on his batting I didn't see it, but after Nasir's performance I don't see why he can't come up the order ahead of Mushy.
Sohel
September 21, 2012, 11:49 AM
Unimaginative captaincy punctuated by random periods of typical brain freeze. The atrocious bowling made something inherently bad look abysmal. I didn't see him do anything to try and inspire the bowlers to do better. The less said about his batting the better. His great performances surprise me, not these typical ones.
BANFAN
September 21, 2012, 12:30 PM
eto chillaya to labh nai, amader team e kono world class T20 player nai, thakle ordinary captaincy o xtra ordinary lagto.
But ya if he can't score runs he should face consequences.
Keno bhai T20 bolen...amader team e Kono format a e world class keu nai... Fluke, occasional performances against big teams and 1/2 little consistent with Zim and G8 B teams make them look World class.. But truly there is no WC player in our team in any format..... Let's face it...bd fans need to realize it and be polite ...
We even started comparing Shakib with Kalis... That's really audacious ... And damaging an upcoming player... We need to play more with G8 teams if we want to improve... BCB should take a big amount of the blame for not being able o guard our interest in the FTP...bunch of idiots.. If it continues like this... We will be trailing Ire and Sco for sure if not Afg soon...
No point blaming the captain... He was mostly ok with the captaincy... Problem is with his batting...it was a very bad shot that he played.. He needed to be calm after those wickets have fallen...
reyme
September 21, 2012, 12:31 PM
Mushy should be guided by Pybus. Coach should be in charge of the gameplan, not the captain. Captain should just execute, and if he is making mistake, the coach must act right away to send him messages during the game. Otherwise the coach might as well just stay in the hotel and watch the game on TV or watch a movie instead.
I said this before the game, and I will say this after the game.
When the car was off the wheel, why the coach could not come up with backup plans? Or did he have any?
Mushy is no captain material, at least not yet. Cheerleader maybe, but no captain yet.
Shakib is the ideal player and the only player to lead this team.
Night_wolf
September 21, 2012, 09:05 PM
I didn't see the game, but I followed on cricinfo. Looked like we had things somewhat under control up till 9-10 overs, NZ was still going at 7 runs an over. And than it went downhill. I thought the bowling changes were ok, bowlers need to take their fair share of blame. Shakib and Razzak was saved for the end, which makes sense. Our most experienced bowler. Mash bowles ok at the beginning. He even tried out Riyad for one over didn't work. I don't think bowling change wise there isn't much a captain do when even your best bowler is not delivering. Can't comment on his batting I didn't see it, but after Nasir's performance I don't see why he can't come up the order ahead of Mushy.
Bhai.. I watched the game and this is what I saw...
Over 4 - 21/1 Bowled by Razzaq 2 runs given (gets a wicket)
Over 5 - 29/1 Bowled by Mashrafe 8 runs given
Over 6 - 34/1 Bowled by Razzaq 5 runs given
In comes Shafiul
Over 7 - 45/1 Bowled by Shafiul 11 runs given
I think that was the starting point for McCullum going wild. I mean everyone knows how good he is against pace.
Over 15 123/2 Bowled my Mashrafe 10 runs given but gets a wicket
Over 16 128/2 Bowled by Shakib 5 runs given
In comes Shafiul
Over 17 143/2 Bowled by Shafiul 15 runs given.
... Rest is history.
Just my observation.
mushy had some weird bowling changes with shafiul
SS
September 21, 2012, 10:45 PM
If you see the highlight you will know...especially the way he got out...he thought his shot will be like the 6 he got during Asia cup...he has been off form for few matches why he had to do that
mali007
September 21, 2012, 10:46 PM
It's easy to say we should've batted first now that we have lost. Mushy did the right thing since it was an overcast condition and we are better at chasing. Alas our bowling had gone to dogs today.
It was wrong decision to bowl first , even McCullum admitted that. In this field no body won a match after fielding first.
Habib
September 21, 2012, 11:28 PM
He failed to rotate his bowlers properly. He forgot how to bat as well.
That I agree with 100%. He was never that good with rotating bowlers.
Habib
September 21, 2012, 11:37 PM
The wicket may have something for the pacers at the beginning but we have no morkel or steyn to rely on. So i wouldnt put my money on seamers rather play out first few overs carefully and then walk the park at pellekele.
Mushy was afraid of our batsmen pissing their pants in front of their seamers.
22Yards
September 22, 2012, 01:23 PM
Mushy was afraid of our batsmen pissing their pants in front of their seamers.
Thus being in defensive mode even before the game had started :facepalm:
Zeeshan
September 22, 2012, 01:50 PM
............sucks
Habib
September 22, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sorry offtopic. I was wondering why does Ramiz Raza love to talk about Mushy's height so much? He has already used all sorts of adjectives like small, little, tiny :| Hobbit and pipsqueak are next?
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