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F6_Turbo
September 27, 2012, 02:38 AM
Just saw this on breaking news...

Rabz
September 27, 2012, 02:39 AM
I just saw this too.. Those are proposed names at this point ..

zinatf
September 27, 2012, 02:46 AM
:facepalm: Hai Allah e abar ki alamot!

Nadim
September 27, 2012, 02:47 AM
What?!? Are they gone mental?
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Habib
September 27, 2012, 02:47 AM
Well, BCB is trying something different I guess. However, there is little going on for the last two nominees performance wise. They are being considered just due to being senior.

Naimul_Hd
September 27, 2012, 02:54 AM
Well then i demand 3 different Selector panels for 3 different formats of the game.

Maysun
September 27, 2012, 03:05 AM
Typical BCB. Something drastic always has to be done after a WC.

Shaun petr
September 27, 2012, 03:11 AM
i just don't wanna see this mushfiq.....anyone else is better than him.

M.H.Rubel
September 27, 2012, 03:18 AM
This is not a bad idea to make 3 captain for 3 format.
But Ash as a captain looks funny to me. I think they can find other person in place of him.

Rifat H
September 27, 2012, 03:18 AM
Not a bad idea. BCB has limited choice .Other than Tamim and Shakib no other BD player is good in all 3 formats. Shakib is performing quite well without the burden of captaincy and Tamim is not quite ready yet for the role . Mash has injury problem. So he cant play test matches regularly .He will take charge of the ODI team . Mushfiq is quite good in test matches and same goes to Ash as a T20 player . Its a big gamble though !!

Rifat H
September 27, 2012, 03:30 AM
Mashrafeer jaygay Shakib ke ODI captaincy dile beshi valo.

F6_Turbo
September 27, 2012, 03:36 AM
As Rabz said...these are potential nominees guys, so don't get too stuck on these names. Then again when you look at our player pool, if we head in this direction....there really isn't many other names that stand out aside from the very obvious Shakib.

Sohel
September 27, 2012, 03:36 AM
http://www.dembot.net/images/facepalm/wrong_facepalm.jpg

Lutfulkhan
September 27, 2012, 03:38 AM
I like this. Something had to be done. At least some competition between the captains can't be bad!

Isnaad
September 27, 2012, 03:43 AM
If there needs to be any change in captaincy, then I'd say make Shakib captain of our T20I team. That's it. Mushfiq should and will remain captain for the ODIs and Tests.

mr cricket
September 27, 2012, 03:50 AM
Ashraful.:lol:

OMG
September 27, 2012, 04:28 AM
I like this idea.....england do this and so does Pak. I dont think it will last long though. After maybe one year they will see which captain made biggest impact to the team and then they would make them captain across all the formats again.

Isnaad
September 27, 2012, 04:33 AM
Another thing, a captain can't impact much if the players themselves aren't ready to take it up a notch.

Nadim
September 27, 2012, 04:45 AM
How come Riyad didn't made any of them?:floor:
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Rifat H
September 27, 2012, 04:50 AM
[বাংলা]মুশফিকের ওপর নাখোশ বিসিবি সভাপতি!

কলম্বো: বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) সভাপতি মোস্তফা কামাল কাজের ফাঁকে ফাঁকে বিশ্বকাপ ভেন্যুতে চলে আসেন। খেলা দেখেন, ক্রিকেট কূটনীতিও চলে। ক্রিকেট কূটনীতিতে এখন তিনি কিছুটা পিছিয়ে। প্রতিশ্রুতি দিয়ে রাখতে পারেননি বলে পাকিস্তান ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (পিসিবি) তার ওপরে নাখোশ। ভারতের আনুকল্যও পাচ্ছেন না। আইসিসির সহ-সভাপতি হওয়ার স্বপ্নও বোধহয় পূরণ হওয়ার নয়।

এসব তাকে তাড়িয়ে বেড়াচ্ছে। তারওপর টি-টোয়েন্টি বিশ্বকাপে বাংলাদেশ ভালো খেলেনি। নিউজিল্যান্ড এবং পাকিস্তানের কাছে হেরে গ্রুপ পর্ব থেকে বিদায় নিয়েছে। মোস্তফা কামাল পাল্লেকেলেতে উপস্থিত ছিলেন। খেলা দেখে তার ভালো লাগেনি। প্রায় সাড়ে তিন মাসের প্রস্তুতির পর দলের এমন পারফরমেন্স মেনে নিতে পারছেন না। বুধবার রাতে কলম্বো তাজ সমুদ্র হোটেল থেকে বিদায় নেওয়ার আগে বলে গেলেন, ‘তাদের জন্য সব কিছু করা হয়েছে। অনেক প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচ খেলেছে। কিন্তু তাদের কোন উন্নতি দেখছি না। ফিল্ডিংয়ে যাচ্ছে তাই অবস্থা। স্পিন বোলিং উপদেষ্টা হিসেবে সাকলাইন মুস্তাককে দায়িত্ব দিয়েছি। কিন্তু কোন উন্নতি দেখতে পাচ্ছি না। অনেকের ফিটনেস ভালো না। তাহলে এত টাকা খরচ করে বিদেশ থেকে কোচিং স্টাফ রেখে লাভ কি? আমি কোচিং স্টাফদের বিষয়টি পরবর্তী বোর্ড সভায় তুলবো।’

১৭৫ রানের স্কোর করেও পাকিস্তানের কাছে বাংলাদেশ দল হেরে গেছে মিস ফিল্ডিংয়ের জন্য। বিশেষ করে ইনিংসের দ্বিতীয় ওভারে আবুল হোসেন ইমরান নাজিরের ক্যাচ ফেলে দেওয়ায় পরাজয় তরান্বিত করে। ফিল্ডিংয়ের এই দৈন্যদশার জন্য ফিল্ডিং কোচ জেসন সুইফটকে বিসিবির কাঠগড়ায় দাঁড়াতে হতে পারে।

বিসিবি সভাপতি অধিনায়ক মুশফিকুর রহিমের ওপরও কিছুটা নাখোশ। তার কথায় রীতিমতো বিরক্তি প্রকাশ পেয়েছে, ‘মুশফিক হোটেলে নিজের রুমে বসে থাকে। কে কি করে তার খোঁজ রাখে না। এবার বোর্ডের কাছে প্রস্তাব করবো তিন ফর্মেটের খেলার জন্য আলাদা আলাদা অধিনায়ক করার জন্য। এতে ক্রিকেটের ভালো হবে।’

ক্যান্ডির মাহাভেলি রিজ হোটেলে ছিলো বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট দল। বিসিবি সভাপতিও সেখানে গিয়ে উঠেছিলেন। খুব কাছ থেকে তিনি ক্রিকেটারদের গতিবিধি খেয়াল করেছেন। খেলোয়াড়দের খাদ্যাভ্যাস দেখে বিরক্ত তিনি।
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cricheart
September 27, 2012, 04:53 AM
Why they didn't do it when t20 team was announced?! Why now!? This will seriously implact on Mushy's career. Its gonna be utter insult to his stint whatever he managed to gain so far in other formats. Having Mushy as captain, cant choose different captains for different formats now. They lost that path when they had that chance. Issue aint only the person, roleplay of captaincy itself on question here.
After Shakib yesterday opened mouth on captaincy, overall downplayed team motivation and performance, better BCB admit Mushy's imcompitency as captain and demote him from all formats. Or, they should let play Mushy's team administration and alert Shakib for talking to press on internal issues.

WarWolf
September 27, 2012, 05:00 AM
This is heart breaking news. I see another chaos in the team is coming.

Sohel
September 27, 2012, 05:02 AM
How come Riyad didn't made any of them?:floor:
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At least DaRok, thanks to his brilliantly successful captaincy of the A Team, is still in contention. He should captain the T20I side because of all those 6s he has hit recently. I'm lobbying for Nazimuddin to become our test captain.

Tigers_eye
September 27, 2012, 05:15 AM
Abar suru hoisey. Captaincy in BD are like underwear. Iccha hoilo tho change korlam.

Arey bolod, a team takes captain's persona. Too many cooks will certainy destroy the broth.

Ar Ash ki korsey jay ore captain banaitey hobay? ek ta fifty marsey? I mean really........... is this the only way to keep in the team?

senman
September 27, 2012, 05:36 AM
If they implement this it will be a poor decision, Bangladesh are upcoming side, they need stable captain. BCB instead should invest in infrastructure & grass root levels(schoolcricket) thats how it will start producing good players. Changing Captains after every poor series will have a divisive effect inside the team.

al-Sagar
September 27, 2012, 05:48 AM
Well then i demand 3 different Selector panels for 3 different formats of the game.

what next three Different BOARDS ????

Naimul_Hd
September 27, 2012, 05:54 AM
what next three Different BOARDS ????

Not a bad idea. :lol:

Roni_uk
September 27, 2012, 06:22 AM
I like this. Shakib should captain ODIs.

Shaan
September 27, 2012, 06:31 AM
for some reason i see shakib becoming t20 captain, if that happen i'll be really happy.

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 07:00 AM
Decent idea. Got nothing to complain against this decision. Shakib for t20, Mashrafe for odi and mushy for test should be good.
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Maple1900
September 27, 2012, 07:29 AM
I like the idea. Hope Ash will be captain in T20.

BD_TigerZ
September 27, 2012, 07:47 AM
Dont want too see change in ODI's (Yet) why change the winning formula? we did well in Asia Cup and so did mushy (except last over with shahdat) but it will come with experience, if he seems lost like in T20s then maybe Shakib but give him a few more series 2 or 3 minimum. Why change it all of a sudden. But for T20s change would be good and 50/50 for tests.

Please no ashrafool as captain maybe in backup for T20s ONLY. A few months ago he wasnt gud enough for playing 11 and now captain? NO.

T20s- Shakib Vice-Ash
ODIs - Mushfiq Vice-Shakib
Test- Mushfiq/Mash Vice-Musfiq/Mash

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 07:49 AM
Mashrafe doesn't play test. You can replace mash with tamim.
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Antora
September 27, 2012, 07:52 AM
Ashraful? His captaincy from a while back, still haunts me :-|

BD_TigerZ
September 27, 2012, 07:55 AM
Mashrafe doesn't play test. You can replace mash with tamim.
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Tamim has no leadership qualities..

Gowza
September 27, 2012, 08:01 AM
the captaincy is a tough thing for BD because basically the best players are developing and the older ones either haven't cemented their spot or don't have the best leadership skills. for example razzak is basically a lock for t20s and ODIs but could he be the captain? mash doesn't play tests and anyone what are his on field captaincy skills like? ash, don't really need to say anything...

so picking 3 different captains will be tough, mainly because you need a player who has cemented their spot, performs consistently and has the right leadership qualities. how many of those are their in the nationals et up right now? pretty much only shakib, but he's already burdened with being the #1 bowler, #1 batter and all the pressure that comes with that, to give him captaincy again, at this stage of the career means we'll most likely be sacrificing some of his development as a player.

besides shakib is one player not 3, which is what they're looking for.

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 08:07 AM
Tamim has no leadership qualities..

If virender shewag can lead india then tamim can lead bangladesh
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Ajfar
September 27, 2012, 08:16 AM
How is it that Shakib's name is not even on the list of Nominees?

roman
September 27, 2012, 08:21 AM
The question should be how is Ash's name on that list? WTH are they doing?

Btw, according to banglanews, Lotus is not happy with Swift's performance. He also didn't like our player's eating habits

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 08:39 AM
Bangali hoye amader deshi khabar chere dewa onek kothin r onek jhamelay porte hoy. Ami jani karon ami 35 pounds overweight.
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simon
September 27, 2012, 08:52 AM
Ashraful ¿¿¿¿ what da.....

Anyway ,I like the idea but Sak should be considered.
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mufi_02
September 27, 2012, 08:53 AM
I still don't know what to make of it. Let's see who they nominate. They can make one 2 captains. One for T20/ODI and one for Test

Night_wolf
September 27, 2012, 09:07 AM
i nominate sahadat as odi captain, abul as T20 captain and chowdhuri jafar ullah sarafat as test captain

crikss
September 27, 2012, 09:12 AM
Ashraful will be the happpiest man in the world...if he get picked as a captain...finally again he will be settled in the team ( Daat kelano hasi)

simon
September 27, 2012, 09:16 AM
Ash is the luckiest cricketer alive (if he becomes capt) with his consistent mediocre performance.
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Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 09:16 AM
Ashraful isn't a bad captain. Its his performance during captaincy is what e gotta look for!
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Equinox
September 27, 2012, 09:18 AM
I think it's harsh on Mushy. He deserved a longer run before such drastic measures. The nominees are interesting to say the least. I wouldn't dismiss Tamim as a candidate. I think he has it in him to become a good captain but only if he brings a little more maturity to the way he carries himself off the field. Would the others in the team be motivated to give their all in training if the captain himself has a half-assed approach to it? But I think Tamim, with his background, has a good cricketing brain and he also has a good working relationship with the rest of the seniors. I am a little more apprehensive about throwing leadership back on Shakib's already over-filled plate and am worried that it may become an impediment to his growth as a world-class cricketer. One thing that's indisputable is that Riyad must face the axe. I have defended him in the past but it has become clear that he isn't cut out for this level let alone being VC.

simon
September 27, 2012, 09:19 AM
Ashraful isn't a bad captain. Its his performance during captaincy is what e gotta look for!
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U trying to say he under performs with captaincy pressure ¿ :facepalm: how worse can he get anyway?
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Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 09:25 AM
The ashraful we have now is better than the ash we had 1 year ago. So let's just praise the lord we even have ash in this team! And another thing is that ash works harder in the nets and practice then shakib or tamim does. ;) I got some inside news!
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betaar
September 27, 2012, 09:37 AM
I don't care who the captain is as long as they follow Shakib's lead.

mufi_02
September 27, 2012, 09:38 AM
I am happy for Ashraful

simon
September 27, 2012, 09:40 AM
The ashraful we have now is better than the ash we had 1 year ago. So let's just praise the lord we even have ash in this team! And another thing is that ash works harder in the nets and practice then shakib or tamim does. ;) I got some inside news!
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So what.
He keeps failing against good teams.
All he does is scoring against the associates and the other weak teams.
He is 28 now and he is even worse than when he was 18.
He will never change.
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MarufH
September 27, 2012, 09:42 AM
I nominate Mash as a captain for ODI and T20. Mushy for test.

mufi_02
September 27, 2012, 09:56 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2hdzomw.jpg


Ashraful will be the happpiest man in the world...if he get picked as a captain...finally again he will be settled in the team ( Daat kelano hasi)

You mean this

http://i46.tinypic.com/fw0n81.jpg

ialbd
September 27, 2012, 10:23 AM
Ashraful as a nominee???

breaking news indeed... very heart breaking....

I still think its way too early to rip on Mushfiq's captaincy (although we can rip on his batting avg and SR all we want)...

p.s: Ashraful memes started to surface, nice.... lets see who wins Ashraful vs MA Jalil Anonto battle....

NoName
September 27, 2012, 10:48 AM
People were joking about Ash taking captaincy from Mushfiq (I myself too)...oh dear:floor:

roman
September 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
People were joking about Ash taking captaincy from Mushfiq (I myself too)...oh dear:floor:

Watch out what you wish for :)

patriot
September 27, 2012, 10:58 AM
In case some of us arent aware , Ashraful is the only captain to lead Bangladesh into the super 8's of a World T20 tournament.

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 12:14 PM
In case some of us arent aware , Ashraful is the only captain to lead Bangladesh into the super 8's of a World T20 tournament.
Not just that but he also had good batting.
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akabir77
September 27, 2012, 12:19 PM
Master plan to destroy ashraful for good. I am sure kamals cousin from austrlia gave him this idea...

if u need to make three captains chose them based on the performance...

1. TEST: MASH
2. ODI. Shakib
3. T20: Tamim

Mr.Cricket
September 27, 2012, 12:22 PM
My goodness!!! Mashrafe doesn't play test for crying out loud
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Kohli_Sox
September 27, 2012, 12:38 PM
i nominate sahadat as odi captain, abul as T20 captain and chowdhuri jafar ullah sarafat as test captain

this :notworthy:

Dilscoop
September 27, 2012, 01:08 PM
Insult to Mushy is what is needed. He is starting to annoy me.

Also Lota must a read my post (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1589507#post1589507)!! (although I didn't want this, I wanted a NFL style thing)

roman
September 27, 2012, 01:18 PM
Master plan to destroy ashraful for good. I am sure kamals cousin from austrlia gave him this idea...

if u need to make three captains chose them based on the performance...

1. TEST: MASH
2. ODI. Shakib
3. T20: Tamim

Mash doesn't even.play test brother. And on top of that Mash's best friend is injury. Why take chances?

I say continue with Mushy. With Bangladeshi culture, I am not sure about the outcome of having three different captains. If the change is absolutely necessary then why not go back to Shakib? After all, He is The Best thing we have ever produced...

Fazal
September 27, 2012, 01:34 PM
On theory I like the idea about three (or atleast two) different captains. But in top of that, we should also select three set of players. A player should not be selected in all three formats (or two formats) unless he is super good...not Ashraful type good... I mean super good with track record of success.

Right now we may not have enough players to fill up all three formats. So we need to take risk and bring new players in t20 and ODI.

Captaincy candidates really baffled me. I think they are digging up more holes rather than filling up holes. Just watch ...kothakar pani kothai gorai.

MohammedC
September 27, 2012, 01:41 PM
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xtx4f7"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtx4f7_3-captain-for-3-format_sport" target="_blank">3 Captain for 3 Format???</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/mohammedc" target="_blank">mohammedc</a></i>

Miraz
September 27, 2012, 02:16 PM
On theory I like the idea about three (or atleast two) different captains. But in top of that, we should also select three set of players. A player should not be selected in all three formats (or two formats) unless he is super good...not Ashraful type good... I mean super good with track record of success.

Right now we may not have enough players to fill up all three formats. So we need to take risk and bring new players in t20 and ODI.

Captaincy candidates really baffled me. I think they are digging up more holes rather than filling up holes. Just watch ...kothakar pani kothai gorai.

Fazal, we can't assemble even 11 decent player for the national team. Thinking about selecting 3 set of players is simply ludicrous at this point. Sorry for my language.

Fazal
September 27, 2012, 02:22 PM
Fazal, we can't assemble even 11 decent player for the national team. Thinking about selecting 3 set of players is simply ludicrous at this point. Sorry for my language.


You will never have it unless you plan for it and move forward with the plan. if you look at other teams, they take risks in T20 team with young unproven players (unproven by their standard) with mixed results.

For us it's not going to be any worst than what is happening in our T20 team, playing with more established players who may not be suited for t20.

As for me I hate below par performance and business as usual. I would rather work on finding more alternatives even in short term it means short term miserable performance. Atleast with that plan I see light at the end of the long tunnel. Now what i see is dark at the other end with no hope. Some players are too comfy with their situation as they see no competition to uproot them.

crikss
September 27, 2012, 02:51 PM
I am wondering if we suddenly discovered Graeme Smith in Bangladesh ? ( Any surpise Captain)

Max100
September 27, 2012, 03:10 PM
Keep mushy as a test captain

Make shakib odi and t 20 captain

akabir77
September 27, 2012, 03:50 PM
MASH is not playing but havn't retired from test yet... or did he? anyway i can see why he should not be a captain... may be make TI the test captain and make mash the t20 captain...

Ajfar
September 27, 2012, 06:08 PM
At least Loitta said, ami antorik bhabhe dhukkito. Amader ekta player-o tow aie kotha ta ekhon porjonto tow bolte parlo nah. Shudu wicket er dosh.

mr cricket
September 27, 2012, 06:51 PM
Seriously, just give the captaincy back to Sakib.

Zeeshan
September 27, 2012, 06:51 PM
Fazal, we can't assemble even 11 decent player for the national team. Thinking about selecting 3 set of players is simply ludicrous at this point. Sorry for my language.

That was really offensive. Can't believe you said that... :o

Dilscoop
September 27, 2012, 07:01 PM
Did Kamal hint some firing-business on that video? Seeya current "bowling" and "fielding" coach.

BengaliPagol
September 27, 2012, 07:24 PM
If there needs to be any change in captaincy, then I'd say make Shakib captain of our T20I team. That's it. Mushfiq should and will remain captain for the ODIs and Tests.

Exactly what i thought. I think Shakib would be the best T20 captain. And thats it. Leave Mushfiq as test and ODI captain. Not this Ashraful, TAshraful...

dash
September 27, 2012, 07:53 PM
I don't think shakib is interested to be the captain at this moment..he is still bitter with his last experience...and even if he is willing why would he settle for becoming a skipper for only one or two formats considering he is the first name in the team sheet in every format...teams pick different captains for different format because the best leader is not a definite selection for all the formats

rinathq
September 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
While everyone is asking for Shakib as a captain, I dont think Shakib is interested at all. Also, when Shakib is the captain... its more added pressure. I am not saying he cannot take pressure but I am saying its unfair to give him that pressure. I would say keep Mushy as the test captain, Mashrafe as the ODI captain and T20, I have NO clue whatsoever. Neither Ash, nor Mash, never Mushy qualifies to be the T20 captain, and Shakib probably isnt interested.

But surprised to Loitta apologizing. It wasnt just a formal apology it was full apology to everyone. I appreciate that and i hope he takes responsible actions not rushed, hot headed decisions.

FaHiMa
September 27, 2012, 10:32 PM
Ashraful :applause:

Shaun petr
September 27, 2012, 10:47 PM
Musfiq: "Jei wicket ta te khelechhi ta amader moto na"
So we need "amader moto" wicket everywhere...i don't know what would have happened if Ms Dhoni made this comment.....So pathetic!!!! shameless Captain.

jeesh
September 27, 2012, 11:41 PM
There should be 2 captains for 3 formats. Mushfiq should sit out in T20's.

Murad
September 28, 2012, 12:03 AM
Test - Mushfique/Riyad

ODI - Riyad (yes he sucks in t20 but he is good in ODs)

T20I - Shakib/Mash

jeesh
September 28, 2012, 12:55 AM
3 captains-chaos theory

kalpurush
September 29, 2012, 03:19 AM
If they implement this it will be a poor decision, Bangladesh are upcoming side, they need stable captain. BCB instead should invest in infrastructure & grass root levels(schoolcricket) thats how it will start producing good players. Changing Captains after every poor series will have a divisive effect inside the team.
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Poor us that we do NOT have anyone like you in our cricket board.

All we have is corrupt, looter and idiots. :down:

zahidnyc
September 29, 2012, 04:41 AM
How come Riyad didn't made any of them?:floor:
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Thats my question too bro ? He is far better player in odi and test than musfiq and ashraful

Rabz
September 29, 2012, 05:15 AM
I want 3 different stadiums for 3 different format where 3 of our different teams will be playing under 3 different captains.

1 stadium for test
1 stadium for odi
1 stadium for t20

lamisa
September 29, 2012, 12:28 PM
mushy is fine in tests and ODIs. we have fared pretty well in ODIs under mushy's captaincy. however, mushu, i believe, is not an attacking captain so in t20s, maybe we can try out a diferent captain. shakib could captain in t20s since we don't play too many t20s and that won't add too much burden on his shoulders

riad
September 29, 2012, 12:39 PM
mushy is fine in tests and ODIs. we have fared pretty well in ODIs under mushy's captaincy. however, mushu, i believe, is not an attacking captain so in t20s, maybe we can try out a diferent captain. shakib could captain in t20s since we don't play too many t20s and that won't add too much burden on his shoulders

Mushy as a captain is fine. He has good people skills.
You have to understand a captain can not tell each and everything to the players in a game. Personal responsibility is also key.
If a captain make unusual decision and that works he becomes extra ordinary aptain and if does not work then that will make him below ordinary so those are little luck too.
I don see any good replacement of Mushy right now. Though he needs to be consistent with his batting.

Mr.Cricket
September 29, 2012, 05:33 PM
mushy is fine in tests and ODIs. we have fared pretty well in ODIs under mushy's captaincy. however, mushu, i believe, is not an attacking captain so in t20s, maybe we can try out a diferent captain. shakib could captain in t20s since we don't play too many t20s and that won't add too much burden on his shoulders

Ditto https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNej-vR-ML97J0CgV0-j7BeRlzF4q7xzY3i9beJks0fB-i7c3T

Don't think leading a team in T20 would hurt anyone. Besides, if it benefits the team, then any player in the world should make himself available.

BANFAN
September 29, 2012, 05:42 PM
There should be 2 captains for 3 formats. Mushfiq should sit out in T20's.

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Perfectly said... I agree to that 100 %

BANFAN
September 29, 2012, 05:48 PM
Fazal, we can't assemble even 11 decent player for the national team. Thinking about selecting 3 set of players is simply ludicrous at this point. Sorry for my language.

I don't think there was any better language for that.... BD cricket will become a complete circus if we even try to do it... Even the best teams of the world can't plan that.

BengaliPagol
September 29, 2012, 07:18 PM
BD cricket will become a complete circus if we even try to do it

We are already a circus in the sense that top cricketing nations are laughing @ how bad we are ...

BANFAN
September 29, 2012, 07:28 PM
We are already a circus in the sense that top cricketing nations are laughing @ how bad we are ...

I know, that's why I said 'complete Circus' :)

Then we will no more be allowed in a cricket ground, rather we will be shown the area for circus parties to perform... ;)

Yet we are allowed in a cricket field, so high time to wake up...

BengaliPagol
September 29, 2012, 07:41 PM
I know, that's why I said 'complete Circus' :)

Then we will no more be allowed in a cricket ground, rather we will be shown the area for circus parties to perform... ;)

Yet we are allowed in a cricket field, so high time to wake up...

the audience would laugh louder watching BD play cricket then watching a circus performance.

KaaL-PurusH
September 29, 2012, 08:33 PM
surpirsed to see some people buying this b******t. we always prefer quick and tempo fix rather than dig in deep and correct the fault from root.

Gowza
September 29, 2012, 11:16 PM
Can't see tamim as a captain, but reckon his input would be useful so a possible vice captain but that's as far as he should go for now. Shakib's is clearly the best choice captain in terms of thinking as a captain trying to win a match but he's got so much to deal with already.

Ajfar
September 29, 2012, 11:39 PM
surpirsed to see some people buying this b******t. we always prefer quick and tempo fix rather than dig in deep and correct the fault from root.

Its always a quick fix solution for us. It has been and it will always be unless real people with real interest in our cricket get chance to run BCB. As if changing captain has done wonders for us in the past after a terrible series/tournament.

I want to see Mushy go soon to or at least 2 different captain, but if BCB considers this captaincy issue as a solution to our horrible WC outing than we are doomed for more failure.

pagol-chagol
September 30, 2012, 12:11 AM
Before they find 3 captains in the country, they should find 3 world class cricket players in the country.

Zeeshan
September 30, 2012, 12:32 AM
Before they find 3 captains in the country, they should find 3 world class cricket players in the country.

Before T20 cup, I didn't even know Luke Wright. It seems he's product of a county cricket and a country where people live, eat, breathe cricket. I think something similar was said by Shakib. So before we go searching for world class players we have to create a culture where people can be immersed in it.



Cricket library
Cricket video library
Bowling machine for individual practice
Players paying for coach from own pockets
Swapping roles at net, Tamim as bowler, Shafiul as pinch-hitter. Point is you don't get bored with monotonicity and you are constantly "in" cricket even if you are not doing "your" thing
Learning from everyone, asking questions to everyone...
Fitness even when not playing cricket...

Easy for me to preach it. But these are really common sense theories that everyone should be doing. Like Jet Li used to say, their trainer made them practice boxing when they were tired from kicking. So they were busy constantly doing one thing or not.


Also, cultural programs where- tangential to OMG's idea- of players teaching orphans or homeless for fun can be undertaken. Or even charity matches.


Immersion is the key.

Navo
September 30, 2012, 01:06 AM
^ Actually, over the past 4 years in England, I've come to appreciate that the fan following of cricket is seasonal and is not nearly as fervent as the support for football. (I'm not talking about the Barmy Army, who travel with the team, as they are obviously a small minority) While I agree that practical immersion in the sport from a young age is important, I think part of the success (and athleticism) of England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa stems from the fact that they play many other sports and, as you said, take their fitness incredibly seriously. I think that has benefited Luke Wright more than reading Len Hutton's biography!

Zeeshan
September 30, 2012, 01:12 AM
^ Actually, over the past 4 years in England, I've come to appreciate that the fan following of cricket is seasonal and is not nearly as fervent as the support for football. (I'm not talking about the Barmy Army, who travel with the team, as they are obviously a small minority) While I agree that practical immersion in the sport from a young age is important, I think part of the success (and athleticism) of England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa stems from the fact that they play many other sports and, as you said, take their fitness incredibly seriously. I think that has benefited Luke Wright more than reading Len Hutton's biography!

Don't have to be mutually exclusive. You have just spend 10 hours in net, you are tired, it's 10 o'clock at night, you turn on tv and no cricket, you are Mohammad Ashraful....what do you do? That's right, cozy up with a tome of Wisden Almanack. ;-]

BANFAN
September 30, 2012, 02:58 PM
^ Actually, over the past 4 years in England, I've come to appreciate that the fan following of cricket is seasonal and is not nearly as fervent as the support for football. (I'm not talking about the Barmy Army, who travel with the team, as they are obviously a small minority) While I agree that practical immersion in the sport from a young age is important, I think part of the success (and athleticism) of England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa stems from the fact that they play many other sports and, as you said, take their fitness incredibly seriously. I think that has benefited Luke Wright more than reading Len Hutton's biography!

Liked that .... :). :up: :lol:

Ahsan
October 1, 2012, 01:30 PM
You have just spend 10 hours in net, you are tired, it's 10 o'clock at night, you turn on tv and no cricket, you are Mohammad Ashraful....what do you do? That's right, cozy up with a tome of Wisden Almanack. ;-]

He would just stare at the Monilasa pic hanging in his bedroom, or turn Momataz's LP on in loud volume.