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kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 04:55 AM
First, add some carrot to pursue BCCI to convince ICC to keep away the likes of “Ashokas” from umpiring the series!

Mogoj-vuna (selectors):
I know Akram loves mogoj vuna as he lacks a bit of it!
Just follow BC and get your squad right!!

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Coaches, do the catches:
As your cats don’t know how to take catches, just field yourselves while the cats are out to change their diapers!! See it’s that easy!!!

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Oh! I forgot that Pybus might having his “self-declared” vacation, thus, can’t take the catches to win us matches!!!

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Then, add the squads for all the three formats of cricket, i.e., Test, ODI and T20 as below:

Test:
TI
Anamul
Mominul
Mushy
Mullah
Shak
Nasir
RBX
Mash
Enamul Jr
Sunny

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ODI:
TI
Imrul
Anamul
Shak
Mullah
Mushy
Nasir
Mash
Naz
Sunny
Razzak

T20:
TI
Nazimuddin
Ash/Zunaid
Shak
Mushy
Nasir
Sabbir
Zia
Mash
RBX/Naz
Sunny


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P.S. I wanted to be a Zee here, but pulled off a “Bioscoop!”
<o:p>What do you think? What's your recipe? </o:p>
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Rabz
October 7, 2012, 05:10 AM
KP da, please take Anamul/Mominul out of the equation, for now.
They are not ready yet and we shouldn't throw them into the mix.
Let them mature up a little bit with further A team and HP team tours.
These two are the brightest future prospect we have and dont want to kill the eggs before they are hatched.

Naimul_Hd
October 7, 2012, 05:15 AM
Agey bolen Mehman kara ? Shei unujayi ranna kora hobe ! Jodi Gayle, Narine, Samuals shob eshe pore tahole kintu ranna koreo kulate parbo na !

kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 05:17 AM
Rabz, ami chaileo kill kortey parbo na Anamul/Mominul key! Bonduk to selectors der hatey!!

kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 05:23 AM
Agey bolen Mehman kara ? Shei unujayi ranna kora hobe ! Jodi Gayle, Narine, Samuals shob eshe pore tahole kintu ranna koreo kulate parbo na !
RBX ektu jhal beshi diley Gayle chit-potang! Er Narine ke Tamim ke diye "shari-badi shalsha" er ghul khaowalei kormo sompadon hoye jabey!!

Nadim
October 7, 2012, 05:56 AM
Test:
1) Tamim Iqbal
2) Nazimuddin
3) Junaid
4) Shakib
5) Nayeem
6) Mushy
7) Nasir/Mulla
8) Sunny
9) Shafiul
10) Rubel
11) Mash

+++++++++++++++

ODI
1) Tamim
2) Kayes
3) Anamul
4) Shakib
5) Mushy
6) Nasir
7) Shabbir
8) Nazmul aka the Step son
9)Mash
10) Rubel
11) Lalla

++++++++++++++++

T20
1) Tamim
2) Ash
3) Shakib
4) Mushy
5) Nasir
6) Shabbir
7) Nazmul Milon/Alauddin Babu
8) Zia
9) Mash
10) Lalla
11) Arafat Sunny

Rabz
October 7, 2012, 06:02 AM
RBX ektu jhal beshi diley Gayle chit-potang! Er Narine ke Tamim ke diye "shari-badi shalsha" er ghul khaowalei kormo sompadon hoye jabey!!

KP da, apnar ei recipe shune ar eta na diye parlam na :D


http://i46.tinypic.com/2jcg1lx.jpg

Nadim
October 7, 2012, 06:19 AM
Sorry to post it here. But did anyone reads this?

Why the hell BCB aint doing anything about if it is true?

[বাংলা]চুক্তি সই না করেই কোচ পাইবাস![/বাংলা]
(http://prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-10-07/news/295814)

sorry kp bhai. couldn't find any relevant thread.

kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 06:31 AM
Nadim, why sorry mate?

#1 post poro nai? Pybus er "self-declared" vacation... khucha dilam, but betha to pabey na money hoy dekhchhi!!:ohno:

kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 06:33 AM
KP da, apnar ei recipe shune ar eta na diye parlam na :D


http://i46.tinypic.com/2jcg1lx.jpg
Ki dilen Rabz bhai? Kichhu to dekhi na!!


Firewall er karshaji money hochchhe!!! Bashay giye dekhbo.

BANFAN
October 7, 2012, 06:40 AM
Sorry to post it here. But did anyone reads this?

Why the hell BCB aint doing anything about if it is true?

[বাংলা]চুক্তি সই না করেই কোচ পাইবাস![/বাংলা]
(http://prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-10-07/news/295814)

sorry kp bhai. couldn't find any relevant thread.

[বাংলা]ক্রিকেট পরিচালনা বিভাগের আজকের সভায় পাইবাস-সংক্রান্ত আরও কিছু বিষয়েও আলোচনা হতে পারে। জাতীয় দলের ব্যস্ততা না থাকায় স্পিন কোচ সাকলায়েন মুশতাকের সঙ্গে গতকাল থেকে বিশেষ স্পিন ক্যাম্প শুরু করেছেন চার স্পিনার আবদুর রাজ্জাক, মাহমুদউল্লাহ, ইলিয়াস সানি ও নাসির হোসেন। কিন্তু তাঁকে না জানিয়ে ক্যাম্প আয়োজনে ক্ষুব্ধ পাইবাস ই-মেইল করে ক্যাম্প বন্ধ করে দিতে বলেছেন। এ ছাড়া জাতীয় দল ও ‘এ’ দলের বিভিন্ন কার্যক্রমে বিসিবির অনুমোদন ছাড়াই একাডেমির কোচ রিচার্ড ম্যাকিন্সকে সম্পৃক্ত করতে চান পাইবাস। বিসিবি ভালোভাবে দেখছে না এটাও[/বাংলা]।

He isn't delivering much yet. Don't know exactly what plan he is working on. I don't find any reason for him to be so authoritative and stopping a spin camp during his leave. While I agree with RM getting involved with the National and A Team...

Naimul_Hd
October 7, 2012, 06:51 AM
Sorry to post it here. But did anyone reads this?

Why the hell BCB aint doing anything about if it is true?

[বাংলা]চুক্তি সই না করেই কোচ পাইবাস![/বাংলা]
(http://prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-10-07/news/295814)

sorry kp bhai. couldn't find any relevant thread.

What the !!!! How can an international professional coach do such thing ? Why did even BCB pay him monthly salary if he hadn't signed the paper ? Amazing.

BANFAN
October 7, 2012, 06:54 AM
What the !!!! How can an international professional coach do such thing ? Why did even BCB pay him monthly salary if he hadn't signed the paper ? Amazing.

Because, LK is in love with him...:)

Gowza
October 7, 2012, 07:02 AM
i'm thinking:

tests:

1 TI
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 nasir
5 shakib
6 mushy
7 dhiman
8 mash
9 RBX
10 sunny
11 shafiul/robin/nazmul/enamul/sohag (depends on conditions and form)

one-dayers

1 TI
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 shakib
5 nasir
6 mushy
7 riyad/shabbir/shuvagata/babu
8 mash
9 RBX
10 sunny
11 razzak/nazmul (depending on conditions)

t20

1 TI
2 ash
3 shakib
4 nasir
5 shuvagata/mominul
6 mushy
7 shabbir/mominul
8 babu/sunny/razzak/sohag
9 mash
10 sunny/razzak
11 RBX

AsifTheManRahman
October 7, 2012, 09:49 AM
Recipe: Wait a decade for a freak of nature to show up and hope he gets Gayle lbw before he reaches double figures.

sharup
October 7, 2012, 09:57 AM
WHATEVER the recipe is, it's going to cause diarrhea.

reyme
October 7, 2012, 10:30 AM
Sorry to post it here. But did anyone reads this?

Why the hell BCB aint doing anything about if it is true?

[বাংলা]চুক্তি সই না করেই কোচ পাইবাস![/বাংলা]
(http://prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-10-07/news/295814)

sorry kp bhai. couldn't find any relevant thread.

This is breaking news! And should be a thread by itself.
BCB is spending almost 50K per month for this man. Unbelievable!! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

reyme
October 7, 2012, 10:34 AM
Receipe:
Give the team to McInnes
Make Shakib Captain
Sensible Team Selection

Forget and let go Pybus, and start preparing right away.

reyme
October 7, 2012, 10:46 AM
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মাহমুদ ফারুক
২০১২.১০.০৭ ০২:৩৬
<DD class=" justify">মোস্তফা কামালের স্বেচ্ছাচারিতায় আবার সব ভন্ডুল হচ্ছে - এই লোকটাকে কোচ করার কোন যৌক্তিক কারন ই ছিল না - এর চাইতেও হাই প্রোফাইল কোচ ছিল লিস্ট এ । </DD><DD class="divider "></DD><DT id=comment-1055731>http://paimages.prothom-alo.com/secured/theme/public/newdesign/style/images/user-comm.jpg
Nahid
২০১২.১০.০৭ ০২:৪৫ </DT><DD class=" justify">if we are paying him according to the contract, this can not go longer....
Pybus may have found his Dream Job but from out point of view, employer (BCB),
we need to either discuss and rectify or ditch his contract and look for a better coach... </DD><DD class="divider "></DD><DT id=comment-1055863>http://paimages.prothom-alo.com/resize/maxDim/38x1000/img/uploads/profile-image/2012/10/04/2012-10-04-03-36-35-506d04430de5a-image441.jpg
PIEL
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Moin Shaheen
২০১২.১০.০৭ ০৭:৪৯ </DT><DD class=" justify">Pibus is a very faltu coach. Bangladesh is only going backwards during his term. Our team will sufferso much shame in near future. </DD><DD class="divider "></DD><DT id=comment-1055875>http://paimages.prothom-alo.com/resize/maxDim/38x1000/img/uploads/profile-image/2012/07/13/2012-07-13-02-20-22-4fff85e60b45e-249367_266042340079727_4273140_n.jpg
Moin Shaheen
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ahsan
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fariduddinahmed
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hussain noyon
২০১২.১০.০৭ ১৩:৩৩ </DT><DD class=" justify">এই রকম কোচের আমাদের দরকার নাই.। </DD>

mij
October 7, 2012, 10:55 AM
KP da, please take Anamul/Mominul out of the equation, for now.
They are not ready yet and we shouldn't throw them into the mix.
Let them mature up a little bit with further A team and HP team tours.
These two are the brightest future prospect we have and dont want to kill the eggs before they are hatched.


Agree with you 100%

Also get our spinner in form with hard work, our spinner need to play a big role if we want to win with WI. Start with spinner as their top order batsman takes time to play spin.

BANFAN
October 7, 2012, 11:02 AM
Get all the spin varieties available and remove all dependence from pacers. Even if that means playing with only 2 pacers.

Matribhasha
October 7, 2012, 11:15 AM
No Mash in tests. He will be injured on the 3rd day, and out for good this time. Then we will lose him from the 2020 and ODI squads, which is where he has more impact anyway.

SS
October 7, 2012, 11:45 AM
Even we bring best baburchi and best banglar recipe ...you won't be able to satisfy the hunger of t20 world champions...Mash, Shafiul, Abul will have to bowl with diaper each over...and even WI spinners will take all your wickets

simon
October 7, 2012, 11:53 AM
we will win the T20 as usual for sure :D
for the rest I won't say anything.
And I don't have any recipe.

roman
October 7, 2012, 11:56 AM
You cant ignore Enamul now. He is in superb form. He is a must in our test and ODI team

simon
October 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
You cant ignore Enamul now. He is in superb form. He is a must in our test and ODI team

indeed,specially in Tests.

About Anamul & Mominul I say "not yet" specially not for Tests.
Although I would like Anamul playing Odis for this series

mij
October 7, 2012, 12:20 PM
You cant ignore Enamul now. He is in superb form. He is a must in our test and ODI team


Yes, I want see him in test.

M.H.Rubel
October 7, 2012, 12:23 PM
Making the test team will be a tough job as our boys are weak in long format.
Our last test was against Pakistan and the team was :
Tamim
Nazimuddin
S N
Riyad
Nasir
Shakib
Mushy
Sunny
Shahadat
Nazmul
Rabiul
* I don't think there will be much change in the team. As no opener produced in last 1 year probably Nazimuddin will be the partner of Tamim. To me Mominul is better choice at #3. So my team:
Tamim
Nazimuddin
Mominul
Riyad
Naeem
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
sunny
Shahadat
Rubel

Rifat
October 7, 2012, 12:33 PM
You cant ignore Enamul now. He is in superb form. He is a must in our test and ODI team

he should be included in all formats to maximize benefit.

Rifat
October 7, 2012, 12:49 PM
Naeem Islam must be tried in tests, and should stay there

here is my squad:

Tests:
1) Tamim
2) Nazimuddin(Tests only)
3) Shakib(yes, i am promoting him up the order...we lose two early wickets, we pretty much never recover as recent trends in tests indicate)
4) Mushfiqur Rahim
5) Mahmudullah Riyad
6) Nasir Hossain
7) Naeem Islam(Tests only)
8) Nazmul Hossain
9) Enamul Haque jr.
10) Elias Sunny
11) Rubel Hossain(if he hasn't recovered yet Shafiul Islam)


ODIs:

1) Tamim
2) Kayes
3) Shakib Al Hasan
4) Mahmudullah Riyad
5) Mushfiqur Rahim
6) Nasir Hossain
7) Mashrafee Mortaza
8) Nazmul Hossain
9) Abdur Razzak/Enamul Haque jr.
10) Elias Sunny/Enamul Haque jr.
11) Rubel Hossain(if he hasn't recovered yet, Shafiul Islam)

T20:

1) Tamim
2) Ashraful
3) Shakib
4) Mushfiqur Rahim
5) Nasir Hossain
6) Ziaur Rahman
7) Alauddin Babu(wildcard, can hit) should not bowl until proven to be effective!
8) Mashrafee Mortaza
9) Rubel Hossain(if not fit, Nazmul Hossain)
10) Abdur Razzak
11) Enamul Haque jr./Elias Sunny/Arafat Sunny

SS
October 7, 2012, 02:18 PM
Motin er Sichuan Garden er recipe best hobe ar jodi she Mamtaz ganer shure Gangman style remix kore nach korte pare taile hoito WI doya korbo amader...sorry for the satire but I don't see any hope from this team with the current form

Max100
October 7, 2012, 02:45 PM
indeed,specially in Tests.

About Anamul & Mominul I say "not yet" specially not for Tests.
Although I would like Anamul playing Odis for this series

simon, not criticising u but i have a question: to play test-- do u have to be better ODI player?

anamul's longer version record is awsome. does he have to pass ODI exam and after proving himself in ODI and T20--he will get promotion In test match? is that u are suggesting?


our ODI specialist imrul kayes is horrible in test, so is razzaq, so is najmul hossain


my understanding is: if some one is better in some format--he should be tried in that format.

like enamul jr, shohrawadi shuvo have excellent record in Longer version but they been tried in shorter version and kicked out for their failure in shorter version

another watch out: asif ahmed, but i will recommend him for test only. if he needs to go through ODI and t20 format--i believe he will never pass that barrier.

Max100
October 7, 2012, 02:48 PM
my test team will be


tamim
nazimuddin
anamul/mominul/naeem
mushfiq
mahmudullah
shakib
nasir
elias sunny
enamul jr
rubel hossain
shahadat hossain/ taskin ahmed

Max100
October 7, 2012, 02:51 PM
My T20


tamim
ashraful
shakib (C)
mushfiq/anamul
alok kapali
nasir
najmul hossain milon/ziaur rahman
elias sunny
abdur razzaq
mashrafe mortaza
rubel hossain

Dilscoop
October 7, 2012, 04:12 PM
I hope we get Calypso-washed. They are way more entertaining team. Skinny babies playing cricket < real men playing cricket

AMD128
October 7, 2012, 05:12 PM
Really looking forward to seeing Rubel's comeback. I dearly he gets picked in the squad.

Gowza
October 7, 2012, 07:25 PM
Naeem Islam must be tried in tests, and should stay there

here is my squad:

Tests:
1) Tamim
2) Nazimuddin(Tests only)
3) Shakib(yes, i am promoting him up the order...we lose two early wickets, we pretty much never recover as recent trends in tests indicate)
4) Mushfiqur Rahim
5) Mahmudullah Riyad
6) Nasir Hossain
7) Naeem Islam(Tests only)
8) Nazmul Hossain
9) Enamul Haque jr.
10) Elias Sunny
11) Rubel Hossain(if he hasn't recovered yet Shafiul Islam)


ODIs:

1) Tamim
2) Kayes
3) Shakib Al Hasan
4) Mahmudullah Riyad
5) Mushfiqur Rahim
6) Nasir Hossain
7) Mashrafee Mortaza
8) Nazmul Hossain
9) Abdur Razzak/Enamul Haque jr.
10) Elias Sunny/Enamul Haque jr.
11) Rubel Hossain(if he hasn't recovered yet, Shafiul Islam)

T20:

1) Tamim
2) Ashraful
3) Shakib
4) Mushfiqur Rahim
5) Nasir Hossain
6) Ziaur Rahman
7) Alauddin Babu(wildcard, can hit) should not bowl until proven to be effective!
8) Mashrafee Mortaza
9) Rubel Hossain(if not fit, Nazmul Hossain)
10) Abdur Razzak
11) Enamul Haque jr./Elias Sunny/Arafat Sunny

if naeem plays then i think he should be batting in the top 6, #7 spot is generally for a keeper or an allrounder, you don't put a specialist bat there. that means riyad or nazimuddin would have to step aside to fit him in.

also shakib at #3 in tests is a big ask of him, don't forget he's also the main go to strike bowler.

for t20s i'd swap someone for zia personally, he's a hit and miss batsman, not even really a batsman just a slogger and doesn't offer enough with the ball.

Gowza
October 7, 2012, 07:33 PM
as far as anamul and mominul go, mominul has been the best A team batsman, anamul has been the best FC domestic batsman. one thing to think about is if they are going to be long term #2/#3 it could be an idea to introduce them at the same time, that way they learn together and can build a really strong and solid partnership which BD surely needs between it's openers and #3, then nasir/shakib at #4 and #5 they're also great at making partnerships so from that we could build a really solid batting line-up with mushy playing as the finisher as such i.e. the batsman who can play a good innings batting with the guys higher up but can also play with the tail enders to get to a good score.

also surrounding anamul and mominul with tamim, shakib and nasir can only be a good thing imo, shakib and nasir especially are good at playing the situation well and making partnerships.

Gowza
October 7, 2012, 08:33 PM
do we take 3 pacers and 2 spinners (including shakib) or do we take 2 pacers and 3 spinners (including shakib). my issue with the 3 spinners is more to do with them all being SLAs and not so much that we are a pacer short because really we don't have the fast bowling depth so unless they're playing in really pacer friendly conditions i don't think a 3rd spinner instead of a 3rd pacer will be any different and might even be better.

so if we have 3 spinners should we go with 3 SLAs or bring in some variation? problem is the other variations haven't been tested much in the A team. but anyway the only other spinner i'd be comfortable giving a chance to atm is sohag gazi (aside from shakib, sunny and enamul).

also i know enamul is in great form but it's hard to kick out sunny, he's done really well in the tests he's had so far and his strike rate is impressive at 51 and we really need strike bowlers in tests. looking at domestic records both sunny and sohag have much better strike rates than enamu and having sohag offers greater variation.

Zeeshan
October 7, 2012, 10:20 PM
not play them?

Ajfar
October 7, 2012, 11:25 PM
Hope for a player strike like last time, ar kono upai nai.

Dilscoop
October 7, 2012, 11:32 PM
^ I hope our players go on strike.

Unleash

Nafees Iqbal
Rajin Saleh
Tushar Imran
Alok Kapali
Aftab Ahmed
Dhiman Ghosh
Farhad Reza
Taposh Baisha
Talha Jubair
Enamul Haq Jr
Tarek Aziz

Zeeshan
October 7, 2012, 11:36 PM
Hope for a player strike like last time, ar kono upai nai.

LOL thought you said player "strikes" as in middles a ball. :p :facepalm:

Maysun
October 8, 2012, 02:54 AM
Honestly think, we should go in with Anamul and Mominul.

Test XI:

Tamim
Nazimuddin
Anamul
Mominul
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Mahmudullah/Nasir
Mashrafe
Elias Sunny
Enamul Haque Jr.
Rubel/Nazmul/Shafiul

ODI XI

Tamim
Imrul Kayes
Anamul
Shakib
Nasir
Mushfiqur
Mahmudullah
Mashrafe
Razzak
Sunny
Nazmul/Rubel

The top order for the Test XI may have no experience. But, this is the right time for the two to debut. Anamul will be having confidence after a good U19 WC and Mominul is in good touch.

As per the pitch, going in with a spinning track would be a suicide, they've got great spinners. With Chittagong out of the question, we should be relieved.

BengaliPagol
October 8, 2012, 03:02 AM
Tests
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin
3. Anamul Haque
4. Mahmudullah/Naeem Islam
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Nasir Hossain
8. Elias Sunny
9. Nazmul Hossain
10. Enamul Haque jnr.
11. Rubel Hossain

ODI's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Jahurul Islam
4. Mahmudullah
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Nasir Hossain
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Abdur Razzak/Elias Sunny
10. Nazmul Hossain
11. Rubel Hossain

T20's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Mohammad Ashraful
3. Shakib Al Hasan
4. Mominul Haque
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Sabbir Rahman
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Nazmul Hossain
10. Elias Sunny
11. Rubel Hossain

Gowza
October 8, 2012, 03:10 AM
Honestly think, we should go in with Anamul and Mominul.

Test XI:

Tamim
Nazimuddin
Anamul
Mominul
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Mahmudullah/Nasir
Mashrafe
Elias Sunny
Enamul Haque Jr.
Rubel/Nazmul/Shafiul

ODI XI

Tamim
Imrul Kayes
Anamul
Shakib
Nasir
Mushfiqur
Mahmudullah
Mashrafe
Razzak
Sunny
Nazmul/Rubel

riyad and nasir at #7, it's just to low for them, no doubt nasir will do alright there (he'll do ok anywhere), losing faith in riyad. riyad had a great start to his test career but his stats are dropping, the constellation with riyad is that he has a test century but then even junaid has that to his credit. but both would be better up the order if selected.

i know it won't happen but i've been a strong supporter of dhiman having the gloves in test matches, he's the best keeper, he's a reasonable batsman and it means mushy can focus on batting which we really need him to excel in.

just wondering why people don't think anamul should open? is it because he said he wants to be #3? the idea if openers is for them to see out the new ball but we all know that rarely happens for BD and it means #3 is basically an opener anyway so i say have anamul opening which he's done before and been good at in domestics, have mominul at #3 where he's done well at for the A team then have our reliables of nasir and shakib next, mushy has been our best #6 for years so have him at 6 and dhiman should be a decent enough #7 and he adds with the gloves. having a riyad or naeem at #7 doesn't give them much chance with the bat, they don't bowl much and obviously they don't keep wicket so why have them there?

you are right when you say it's the best time to debut anamul and mominul, home conditions, against one fo the weaker teams of the test nations (though to be really honest they're actually getting a lot better in tests these days).

Sohel
October 8, 2012, 04:37 AM
Tests:

1. Nazimuddin (VC)
2. Mithun Ali (WK)
3. Rajin Saleh
4. Rokibul (C)
5. Ashraful
6. Mehrab Jr.
7. Sohrawardi ShuVo
8. Abul Hossain Raju
9. Faisal Hossain
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Robiul Islam

ODIs:

1. Nazimuddin (C)
2. Kayes
3. Rajin Saleh
4. Rokibul (VC)
5. Ashraful
6. Mehrab Jr.
7. Sohrawardi ShuVo
8. Sajjad Kadir (WK)
9. Abul Hossain Raju
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Shahadat Hossain

T20Is:

1. Nazimuddin
2. Ashraful (VC)
3. Rokibul
4. Mehrab Jr.
5. Riyad
6. Mushfiqur Rahim Mit'hu (C-WK)
7. Nayeem Islam
8. Sohrawardi ShuVo
9. Abul Hossain Raju
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Shahadat Hossain

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 08:49 AM
Judging from what Marlon Samuels said yesterday, I'm very scared about this series!
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SS
October 8, 2012, 08:56 AM
Tests:

1. Nazimuddin (VC)
2. Mithun Ali (WK)
3. Rajin Saleh
4. Rokibul (C)
5. Ashraful
6. Mehrab Jr.
7. Sohrawardi ShuVo
8. Abul Hossain Raju
9. Faisal Hossain
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Robiul Islam

ODIs:

1. Nazimuddin (C)
2. Kayes
3. Rajin Saleh
4. Rokibul (VC)
5. Ashraful
6. Mehrab Jr.
7. Sohrawardi ShuVo
8. Sajjad Kadir (WK)
9. Abul Hossain Raju
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Shahadat Hossain

T20Is:

1. Nazimuddin
2. Ashraful (VC)
3. Rokibul
4. Mehrab Jr.
5. Riyad
6. Mushfiqur Rahim Mit'hu (C-WK)
7. Nayeem Islam
8. Sohrawardi ShuVo
9. Abul Hossain Raju
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Shahadat Hossain

Dada aei Recipe to jobbor hoyeche

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 11:19 AM
There is no recipe for BD to win against WI, but there is one recipe to not lose. Don't play.

oronnya
October 8, 2012, 11:29 AM
There is no recipe for BD to win against WI, but there is one recipe to not lose. Don't play.

he he khati kotha !!!

Sohel
October 8, 2012, 11:33 AM
Hire Grandmaster Nadir & Da Furious Five to take care of business throughout the series, AFTER making sure Nazimuddin, Rokibul, Shahadat, Abul, MS ShuVo and Mehrab Jr play every match in the series.

reyme
October 8, 2012, 12:24 PM
We will be fine as long as we have right team selection and right coaching staff. By fine I mean 1 draw in test and 2 ODI wins. But since we won't have it, i am worried about huge hue and cry from all corners of the world to terminate our test status during and after this series. Sad really...Pybus was a huge blunder...his heart is just not there for our team...

oronnya
October 8, 2012, 12:46 PM
We will be fine as long as we have right team selection and right coaching staff. By fine I mean 1 draw in test and 2 ODI wins. But since we won't have it, i am worried about huge hue and cry from all corners of the world to terminate our test status during and after this series. Sad really...Pybus was a huge blunder...his heart is just not there for our team...

Yeah :-| .. that's what worrying me now :-|

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 12:50 PM
We don't need his heart, but what we need is for him to fine tune these boys! Which he is not doing at the moment. Just eating all the money we give him.
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BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
We don't need his heart, but what we need is for him to fine tune these boys! Which he is not doing at the moment. Just eating all the money we give him.

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That's why salary should take into account performance

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
Well you know, those magical people that controls BCB, don't want that to happen. Bcb should follow some of bcci rules. The indian board is very strict.
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Gowza
October 8, 2012, 08:28 PM
That's why salary should take into account performance

easy to say, but with all this talk about the players not putting in 100% and not giving it their all and not trying to constantly improve, what coach would agree to coach a team when his salary is based on performance if the team aren't putting in enough? i think their should be a base salary, which is reasonable but nothing to crazy, then bonus's can be on offer depending on performance.

no coach will put their salary in the hands of players who don't work hard enough, and tbh who would be comfortable with their salary being dependent on others? is that even fair? if the coach is doing the best they can but the players don't put in the hard work it's not going to be the coach's fault for poor performance so why should he lose out (assuming they're a decent coach).

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 08:35 PM
easy to say, but with all this talk about the players not putting in 100% and not giving it their all and not trying to constantly improve, what coach would agree to coach a team when his salary is based on performance if the team aren't putting in enough? i think their should be a base salary, which is reasonable but nothing to crazy, then bonus's can be on offer depending on performance.

no coach will put their salary in the hands of players who don't work hard enough, and tbh who would be comfortable with their salary being dependent on others? is that even fair? if the coach is doing the best they can but the players don't put in the hard work it's not going to be the coach's fault for poor performance so why should he lose out (assuming they're a decent coach).

Well then we got no choice, all coaches making big bucks and our team remaining losers. Atleast make players' salaries based on performance.. they have control over their own performance or not?

Gowza
October 8, 2012, 08:41 PM
Well then we got no choice, all coaches making big bucks and our team remaining losers. Atleast make players' salaries based on performance.. they have control over their own performance or not?

i think the same would need to go for the players, it's their job so they need a base salary but like the coach maybe do a bonus thing when it comes to good performance. do they have control over their own performance? yes to a degree, but cricket is cricket, batsmen are always going to face good bowlers you might just bowler a pearler of a delivery in which there was nothing they can do but of course it's a consistency thing, overall players have a say in their performance, they control how hard they work on and off the field so yes they can control their performance for the most part. but no player will ever be able to perform every single time they step onto the field, but it's the players job to makes sure they do perform most of the time, at least more often than not (if not better).

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 08:47 PM
i think the same would need to go for the players, it's their job so they need a base salary but like the coach maybe do a bonus thing when it comes to good performance. do they have control over their own performance? yes to a degree, but cricket is cricket, batsmen are always going to face good bowlers you might just bowler a pearler of a delivery in which there was nothing they can do but of course it's a consistency thing, overall players have a say in their performance, they control how hard they work on and off the field so yes they can control their performance for the most part. but no player will ever be able to perform every single time they step onto the field, but it's the players job to makes sure they do perform most of the time, at least more often than not (if not better).

Well life is not always fair, how is it fair that these players get paid thousands of dollars (plus sponsors/ ads etc) and the performance they give is zero? There needs to be certain standard, either salary should be based on performance plus bonus for good performance or players should be dropped for consistent non performance and get no money (Ashraful, shafiul, kayes etc)

Gowza
October 8, 2012, 08:51 PM
Well life is not always fair, how is it fair that these players get paid thousands of dollars (plus sponsors/ ads etc) and the performance they give is zero? There needs to be certain standard, either salary should be based on performance plus bonus for good performance or players should be dropped for consistent non performance and get no money (Ashraful, shafiul, kayes etc)

the problem is when a player gets to the national team cricket is a job a profession, you need to be paid something because you need to put food on the table. problem is the culture of cricket in BD isn't professional enough, players don't take it seriously enough or put enough effort into it and that's exactly why we have this problem and why we are discussing solutions for it right here. if the players were more professional and put in the required effort we wouldn't have these issues.

the problem with dropping someone for doing badly is that at current the person who will replace them will likely not put in the effort and therefore will not get the performances. if the system was in good order then players who got dropped would be replaced by performing players and there would be no problem, but that's not how it is.

what they need to do is find players with the talent, and also players who are professional and willing to put in the effort and have the passion for the game, then there would be a better chance of succeeding.

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 08:54 PM
the problem is when a player gets to the national team cricket is a job a profession, you need to be paid something because you need to put food on the table. problem is the culture of cricket in BD isn't professional enough, players don't take it seriously enough or put enough effort into it and that's exactly why we have this problem and why we are discussing solutions for it right here. if the players were more professional and put in the required effort we wouldn't have these issues.

the problem with dropping someone for doing badly is that at current the person who will replace them will likely not put in the effort and therefore will not get the performances. if the system was in good order then players who got dropped would be replaced by performing players and there would be no problem, but that's not how it is.

Well I dont know how its like in BD to have a job cause I never worked there but for people elsewhere you usually get fired or have a low paying job if you are incompetent at doing what you do. We need some serious changes starting from the top (Bcb)

Gowza
October 8, 2012, 08:56 PM
Well I dont know how its like in BD to have a job cause I never worked there but for people elsewhere you usually get fired or have a low paying job if you are incompetent at doing what you do. We need some serious changes starting from the top (Bcb)

truth! no doubt you are right.

zman
October 8, 2012, 11:38 PM
This WI team is coming off a world cup win and brimming with confidence. Furthermore, they just played in subcontinental conditions against the world's best slow/spin bowlers. So they'll be more than prepared to play in our conditions and take our bowling apart no matter what's thrown at them. Their players are tremendous athletes, skillful, powerful, hardworking, and hungry for success.

On current form and with our current crop of players, there simply is no silver bullet or recipe for success against this team.

zman
October 8, 2012, 11:49 PM
Ash is our only hope. Maybe he can do some gangnam style moves and distract Gayle and Co. during the match.

ononto
October 9, 2012, 04:45 PM
<o:p></o:p>P.S. I wanted to be a Zee here, but pulled off a “Bioscoop!”
<o:p>What do you think? What's your recipe? </o:p>
<o:p></o:p>

another series... another recipe...another prediction...another hope...another failure...don't you guys get bored?... sorry to say but I am bored...

brianlara7 said it all ...

There is no recipe for BD to win against WI, but there is one recipe to not lose. Don't play.

Nadim
October 9, 2012, 05:10 PM
another series... another recipe...another prediction...another hope...another failure...don't you guys get bored?... sorry to say but I am bored...

brianlara7 said it all ...

How can u get bored from losing?


Ru pom gana? Coz ur name is Ononto!

J/k:)
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shivfan
October 11, 2012, 04:05 AM
This WI team is coming off a world cup win and brimming with confidence. Furthermore, they just played in subcontinental conditions against the world's best slow/spin bowlers. So they'll be more than prepared to play in our conditions and take our bowling apart no matter what's thrown at them. Their players are tremendous athletes, skillful, powerful, hardworking, and hungry for success.

On current form and with our current crop of players, there simply is no silver bullet or recipe for success against this team.

Of course, let's not forget that the WI Test team is likely to be very different from the T20 side....

The team that won the final of the world T20 champs was:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Johnson Charles
3) Marlon Samuels
4) Dwayne Bravo
5) Kieran Pollard
6) Andre Russell
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Sunil Narine
10) Ravi Rampaul
11) Samuel Badree

And the team to play the first Test will most likely be:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Kieran Powell (not to be confused with Kieran Pollard!)
3) Darren Bravo (not to be confused with brother Dwayne!)
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Narsing Deonarine or Asad Fudadin
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Sunil Narine
11) Ravi Rampaul

Gowza
October 11, 2012, 06:13 AM
WI have really turned themselves around in the last year and a half, the test side might be different from the t20 side but they're still decent quality, they gave australia some troubles. the fact is with narine coming to the fore WIs spin attack has become a lot more potent. in narine they have a wicket-taker and someone who soaks up the runs, he didn't do so well in his first test outing but after that did a good job so i reckon he will be at worst decent in the test arena. now with narine taking wickets at a good econ rate it gives more leeway if they decide to play more than one spinner, guys like bishoo have potential so WI do have quite a decent spin attack especially when they're onsong. pace wise roach is really stepping it up and he has some decent back-up. so overall a really solid bowling unit with 2 genuine strike bowlers in roach and narine and good support bowlers.

as far as batting go they have gayle, chanderpaul, samuels and bravo who are all good scorers, capable of scoring big runs against even quality attacks.

BDs best hope is to strengthen the batting as much as they can and strengthen their spin as much as they can.

Roni_uk
October 11, 2012, 07:04 AM
Of course, let's not forget that the WI Test team is likely to be very different from the T20 side....

The team that won the final of the world T20 champs was:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Johnson Charles
3) Marlon Samuels
4) Dwayne Bravo
5) Kieran Pollard
6) Andre Russell
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Sunil Narine
10) Ravi Rampaul
11) Samuel Badree

And the team to play the first Test will most likely be:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Kieran Powell (not to be confused with Kieran Pollard!)
3) Darren Bravo (not to be confused with brother Dwayne!)
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Narsing Deonarine or Asad Fudadin
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Sunil Narine
11) Ravi Rampaul

meh.. walk in the park for us ;)

BrianLara7
October 11, 2012, 10:45 AM
Of course, let's not forget that the WI Test team is likely to be very different from the T20 side....

The team that won the final of the world T20 champs was:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Johnson Charles
3) Marlon Samuels
4) Dwayne Bravo
5) Kieran Pollard
6) Andre Russell
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Sunil Narine
10) Ravi Rampaul
11) Samuel Badree

And the team to play the first Test will most likely be:

1) Chris Gayle
2) Kieran Powell (not to be confused with Kieran Pollard!)
3) Darren Bravo (not to be confused with brother Dwayne!)
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Narsing Deonarine or Asad Fudadin
7) Denesh Ramdin
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Sunil Narine
11) Ravi Rampaul

You guys should throw out fudadin or Powell and bring Dwayne bravo or Barath in tests. Powell is mediocre

Saifulsohel
October 11, 2012, 11:18 AM
5 leftie in 6!

mufi_02
October 11, 2012, 11:28 AM
5 leftie in 6!

I think its a good plan as they know we will come out with only SLAs.

BANFAN
October 11, 2012, 11:45 AM
I think its a good plan as they know we will come out with only SLAs.

Shouldn't our selectors react to opposition's strategy ...?

roman
October 11, 2012, 11:55 AM
Shouldn't our selectors react to opposition's strategy ...?

What can our selectors do? We simply have no other options.

oronnya
October 11, 2012, 12:02 PM
Shouldn't our selectors react to opposition's strategy ...?

I wish they knew how to play the game theory!! Yeah they will react and that's like"oh you have the best of the bests in your line up then we have the crap of the craps in our line up- beat Shahadat, Abul, Shafiul et al L-):smug::smug::umm:'

AsifTheManRahman
October 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Shouldn't our selectors react to opposition's strategy ...?
React korte gele mathay kichu thakte hobe to aagey.

Then again, our reserves are probably bigger Abuls than Abul himself. :hairpull:

roman
October 11, 2012, 12:07 PM
Then again, our reserves are probably bigger Abuls than Abul himself. :hairpull:

Haha. True that.

mufi_02
October 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
Shouldn't our selectors react to opposition's strategy ...?

Not much the selectors can do here. SLA's is supposedly our strength and we have no choice but to use them. Beside Shakib, it will be either Razzak/Sunny/Enam Jnr who will be taken in as the 2nd spinner. Shakib and other SLA will keep on bowling from one end. The pacers will only be there to make the ball old and take the shine off.

But Muhsy and management can get creative.

1. They can have the SLAs bowl around the wicket as that will give a natural angle to create more LBWs and bat-pad catches.

2. Have Riyad and Nasir (both offies) bowl to the lefties from over the wicket. As they will take the bowl away from the batsmen, they can consider two slips.

Let's see what they do.

Gowza
October 12, 2012, 12:28 AM
Not much the selectors can do here. SLA's is supposedly our strength and we have no choice but to use them. Beside Shakib, it will be either Razzak/Sunny/Enam Jnr who will be taken in as the 2nd spinner. Shakib and other SLA will keep on bowling from one end. The pacers will only be there to make the ball old and take the shine off.

But Muhsy and management can get creative.

1. They can have the SLAs bowl around the wicket as that will give a natural angle to create more LBWs and bat-pad catches.

2. Have Riyad and Nasir (both offies) bowl to the lefties from over the wicket. As they will take the bowl away from the batsmen, they can consider two slips.

Let's see what they do.

For tests there is no way razzak should be considered, sunny hasn't done anything wrong to get dropped but enamul has been impressive. Can't we take 3 spinners? If we take 3 spinners then we could always play sohag gazi for some variation. I reckon in tests we are much better off batting to 7 and playing 5 bowlers (including shakib) which gives room for 3 good spinners to be in the team and 2 pacers plus your nasir's and riyad's who shouldn't be needed but will be there just in case.

BD_TigerZ
October 12, 2012, 03:50 AM
No mentions of imrul, nazim bring in anamul, mominul, rubel, rube, naeem

Gowza
October 12, 2012, 03:59 AM
No mentions of imrul, nazim bring in anamul, mominul, rubel, rube, naeem

tbh it's the best time to bring these guys in, mominul has been the best A team batsman for the last couple of series, anamul should still have a bit of a high from his u19 WC campaign and if they set the batting order right i.e. 1 tamim 2 anamul 3 mominul 4 shakib/nasir 5 shakib/nasir 6 mushy then they're coming into a team which consists of BD's best batsmen ever produced to-date and they're beginning a long time partnership batting at #2 and #3 (it's always great when two batsmen understand each other very well and play for years together) plus with nasir and shakib coming in next they'll learn how to create partnerships (even with tamim they could) and not only that the series is at home, so they'll debut in home conditions, it's against one of the weaker test teams (though they're still a quality team no doubt).

M.H.Rubel
October 12, 2012, 05:39 AM
W I is coming with lot of lefty ? Its gonna kill us. We don't have any decent offi. We need to prepare Shohag Gazi for future. Our selrctors did a poor job in last WI H P team tour in Bangladesh. It was a great chance to test Shohag Gazi.

SS
October 12, 2012, 12:08 PM
W I is coming with lot of lefty ? Its gonna kill us. We don't have any decent offi. We need to prepare Shohag Gazi for future. Our selrctors did a poor job in last WI H P team tour in Bangladesh. It was a great chance to test Shohag Gazi.

Riad ase na...chinta mat

SS
October 12, 2012, 12:12 PM
Even we take three 'specialist' spinners (all of them SLA), their spinners is way ahead of ours and definitely it might backfire knowing our current top and middle order condition. Ja dektasi mone hoitase Javed Omar ar Rajin Saleh der ante hoibo :facepalm:...(j/k)...I think test line should definitely change but the problem is if we bring batsmen like Naeem and Rokibul who will sit out!! On the other hand if Enam Jr comes in will Sunny be benched?

Gowza
October 12, 2012, 04:31 PM
Even we take three 'specialist' spinners (all of them SLA), their spinners is way ahead of ours and definitely it might backfire knowing our current top and middle order condition. Ja dektasi mone hoitase Javed Omar ar Rajin Saleh der ante hoibo :facepalm:...(j/k)...I think test line should definitely change but the problem is if we bring batsmen like Naeem and Rokibul who will sit out!! On the other hand if Enam Jr comes in will Sunny be benched?

rock in tests? no way, naeem can only come in if he bats at #7, imo no there are no other spaces unless they don't pick anamul and mominul and then there are a couple of spaces obviously. i think the combo of shakib and sunny is equal to narine/bishoo or badree or shillingford or benn whoever the second spinner is, narine and shakib should be pretty equal, maybe narine is ahead slightly but sunny is quality and probably better than their pick for 2nd spinner.

personally i reckon if they take 3 spinners then sohag gazi should be considered, shakib, sunny and enamul might be really good spinners but there isn't variation there.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 01:54 PM
I'm interested to see what the selectors do with our Test team since it was a while back before we last played one. From that lineup we had Tamim and Nazim opening, SN at #3 and then Shakib, Nasir, Riyad, and Mushy form our middle order. Now question is will they pick Nazim at opener again? He wasn't picked for any of the A team matches so I feel he won't be picked. I feel SN will stay either as an opener or as the #3. Since we saw Shakib at #3 in T20's, will team management have him that high up again or will they still have him bat at 5-7? I think Naeem will make the team either as a backup or as #7. Interesting to see whether they pick Jahurul or Anamul as the backup keeper-batsmen. I feel both have an equal chance at getting the slot. Mominul also has a good shot of making the team.

As for the bowling, will they take the risk of throwing Mash in? If not, then that means Shafiul, Rubel, and Shahadat will probably form our pace unit. As for the spinners, Elias and Enamul are definitely in. Once again we're going to really need the spinners to take most of the wickets.

M.H.Rubel
October 13, 2012, 02:08 PM
^^^^ Selecting the team is really a vital issue in test match.To me Mominul is the best #3 option and Naeem should get a chance too.So I am thinking the team like this:
1.Tamim
2........
3.Mominul
4.Shakib
5.Riyad
6.Mushy
7.Nasir
8.Naeem
I am really confused about the partner of Tamm. Contenders are Nazimuddin,SN and Kayes.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 02:26 PM
^^^^ Selecting the team is really a vital issue in test match.To me Mominul is the best #3 option and Naeem should get a chance too.So I am thinking the team like this:
1.Tamim
2........
3.Mominul
4.Shakib
5.Riyad
6.Mushy
7.Nasir
8.Naeem
I am really confused about the partner of Tamm. Contenders are Nazimuddin,SN and Kayes.

I wouldn't bat 8 deep bhai. So in that case I would drop Naeem from there and have him on the bench. And I agree with you about Mominul getting the nod at #3. He's been the best A team batsman and its time we work him in to the team. As for the opening spot, it seems the competition is wide open. SN, Nazim, Imrul, Junaid, Shamsur, Jahurul, and Anamul seem to all have a chance. I feel they'll end up taking SN and either Anamul/Jahurul from this lot.

M.H.Rubel
October 13, 2012, 02:35 PM
I wouldn't bat 8 deep bhai. So in that case I would drop Naeem from there and have him on the bench. And I agree with you about Mominul getting the nod at #3. He's been the best A team batsman and its time we work him in to the team. As for the opening spot, it seems the competition is wide open. SN, Nazim, Imrul, Junaid, Shamsur, Jahurul, and Anamul seem to all have a chance. I feel they'll end up taking SN and either Anamul/Jahurul from this lot.

I am interested to take 8 batsman only reason is after accommodating the 8th batsman we ll have total 4 specialist bowler with riyad as a back up bowler. I dont think we need more than 4 front line bowler. Rather an extra batsman will help us.

22Yards
October 13, 2012, 03:35 PM
Here is a thought, Those some discarded players with the likes of Naeem and Junaid has something to offer in tests. I believe both of them has a better future if groomed specially for tests. These two can be very gritty when it comes to staying at the wicket.

For Nazim and Imrul, I dont see their technique being enough for even ODI's, let alone test. And Raquibul is a forgotten name by this time. He plays ODIs as tests but can't survive long enough in tests.

Nafees is someone I am willing to give a few more chances but I am not hopeful he will bring something new to the plate. Opening may not be his right place and we can't offer him a place in the middle order.

Mushfique MUST up his game in tests because he looks to me the weakling in this test side considering his batting. I am all for Anamul as his track record in 4 days games is impressive. His T20 debut little do justice for the talent he posses.

I am still in between in Mominul's case. We desperately need a top order batsman not just in tests but all the format but should his debut happen right now, is the question.

Lastly, I would really like to see some new spinners. Sohag Gazi, Enamul jnr or arafat sunny and likes. Razzak is too inconsistent and elias sunny is too predictable.

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 05:30 PM
Does this all matter? We are all screwed with Gayle opening the batting in tests. And then Bravo, Chanderpaul would come after him...

Gowza
October 13, 2012, 06:00 PM
imrul for tests....no way he should be considered. naeem is a possible but as a #7 imo. order should be but no doubt won't be like this:

1 tamim
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 shakib (shakib is only at #4 because nasir is still inexperienced and so are anamul and mominul, otherwise #4 would be nasir).
5 nasir
6 mushy
7 dhiman

tamim is our best opener so of course he makes it, anamul is our best prospect and done well in FC domestics plus u19 WC, momimul has been batting #3 lately and is still the A teams best batsman, shakib and nasir are our best partnership building batsmen who can play in any situation and generally come up good when needed, mushy has been our best #6 for years in tests and ODIs and dhiman can play as wicket keeper batsman (he's not horrible with the bat). but this will never happen because mushy will keep the gloves, and i don't think it's likely both anamul and mominul will be selected.

possible they'll put shakib at #3 which imo is to much to ask when he's also expected to be the best bowler.

possible nazimuddin wasn't in the A team because they weren't questioning his spot as 2nd opener, i think naeem has a good chance of being in the team to.

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 06:34 PM
imrul for tests....no way he should be considered. naeem is a possible but as a #7 imo. order should be but no doubt won't be like this:

1 tamim
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 shakib (shakib is only at #4 because nasir is still inexperienced and so are anamul and mominul, otherwise #4 would be nasir).
5 nasir
6 mushy
7 dhiman

tamim is our best opener so of course he makes it, anamul is our best prospect and done well in FC domestics plus u19 WC, momimul has been batting #3 lately and is still the A teams best batsman, shakib and nasir are our best partnership building batsmen who can play in any situation and generally come up good when needed, mushy has been our best #6 for years in tests and ODIs and dhiman can play as wicket keeper batsman (he's not horrible with the bat). but this will never happen because mushy will keep the gloves, and i don't think it's likely both anamul and mominul will be selected.

possible they'll put shakib at #3 which imo is to much to ask when he's also expected to be the best bowler.

possible nazimuddin wasn't in the A team because they weren't questioning his spot as 2nd opener, i think naeem has a good chance of being in the team to.

I dont think there is any benefit putting in a keeper if Mushfiq is going to bat at #6. We might as well put Naeem in Dhimans spot. I would only put a keeper in if Mushfiq is batting high up the order (which i doubt will happen). Naeem would be more useful to the team because he can bowl as well.

Gowza
October 13, 2012, 06:44 PM
I dont think there is any benefit putting in a keeper if Mushfiq is going to bat at #6. We might as well put Naeem in Dhimans spot. I would only put a keeper in if Mushfiq is batting high up the order (which i doubt will happen). Naeem would be more useful to the team because he can bowl as well.

i know mushy keeps well sometimes but not all the time, that's where dhiman will. also mushy not having to worry about keeping means he can focus on batting which means he should have better output when batting which is better for the team. plus not much need for naeem's bowling if you have shakib, 2 specialist spinners, 2 specialist pacers plus nasir as back-up.

naeem does have strengths and i think his inclusion or omission comes down to what you want your team dynamic to be.

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 06:58 PM
i know mushy keeps well sometimes but not all the time, that's where dhiman will. also mushy not having to worry about keeping means he can focus on batting which means he should have better output when batting which is better for the team. plus not much need for naeem's bowling if you have shakib, 2 specialist spinners, 2 specialist pacers plus nasir as back-up.

naeem does have strengths and i think his inclusion or omission comes down to what you want your team dynamic to be.

i understand but i wouldnt count on Nasir as a back up. I rate Naeems bowling much higher than Nasir's. Naeem as i said is much for economical.

I think its important to have bowlers like Nasir and Naeem in the team. If our bowlers cant get wickets and there is a huge partnership building up then a bowler like Nasir and Naeem can provide a breakthrough wicket. Even the erratic Ashraful has a knack of providing breakthrough wickets.

But imo since Mushfiq is low down the order id leave him with the gloves and i would replace Dhiman with Naeem simply because he brings much more to the table.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 07:01 PM
imrul for tests....no way he should be considered. naeem is a possible but as a #7 imo. order should be but no doubt won't be like this:

1 tamim
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 shakib (shakib is only at #4 because nasir is still inexperienced and so are anamul and mominul, otherwise #4 would be nasir).
5 nasir
6 mushy
7 dhiman

tamim is our best opener so of course he makes it, anamul is our best prospect and done well in FC domestics plus u19 WC, momimul has been batting #3 lately and is still the A teams best batsman, shakib and nasir are our best partnership building batsmen who can play in any situation and generally come up good when needed, mushy has been our best #6 for years in tests and ODIs and dhiman can play as wicket keeper batsman (he's not horrible with the bat). but this will never happen because mushy will keep the gloves, and i don't think it's likely both anamul and mominul will be selected.

possible they'll put shakib at #3 which imo is to much to ask when he's also expected to be the best bowler.

possible nazimuddin wasn't in the A team because they weren't questioning his spot as 2nd opener, i think naeem has a good chance of being in the team to.

I would pick the same squad if I were the selector but I also have my doubts this will happen. 1st Dhiman hasn't been picked even in the A team so that means he won't be picked for the WI tour. And as much as I want Anamul and Mominul in the team, I have my doubts that they'll be picked. If they don't get picked then most likely we'll see Jahurul there and either Junaid or Ashraful. Since Ashraful ended up getting the nod ahead of Junaid for the T20 WC, we'll probably see him ahead of Junaid in the pecking order.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 07:22 PM
Here is a thought, Those some discarded players with the likes of Naeem and Junaid has something to offer in tests. I believe both of them has a better future if groomed specially for tests. These two can be very gritty when it comes to staying at the wicket.

For Nazim and Imrul, I dont see their technique being enough for even ODI's, let alone test. And Raquibul is a forgotten name by this time. He plays ODIs as tests but can't survive long enough in tests.

Nafees is someone I am willing to give a few more chances but I am not hopeful he will bring something new to the plate. Opening may not be his right place and we can't offer him a place in the middle order.

Mushfique MUST up his game in tests because he looks to me the weakling in this test side considering his batting. I am all for Anamul as his track record in 4 days games is impressive. His T20 debut little do justice for the talent he posses.

I am still in between in Mominul's case. We desperately need a top order batsman not just in tests but all the format but should his debut happen right now, is the question.

Lastly, I would really like to see some new spinners. Sohag Gazi, Enamul jnr or arafat sunny and likes. Razzak is too inconsistent and elias sunny is too predictable.

Good and thoughtful post. I agree that both Naeem and Junaid do have something to offer for the longer version. Naeem's fighting 50 against England and his 45 against the WI when were in a free fall is still in my mind. He has the ability to really grind opposition to the ground. If he can start converting his starts in to big scores then he can really be a handy batsman for us in Tests.

I also liked Junaid in Tests in 2010. He got overlooked obviously by Tamim that year but he too made big strides in the longer version. What was very impressive about him was the way he fought against England in their own conditions. It showed he had guts and determination. Unfortunately he got overlooked by Ash and Nafees last year. In my opinion, he should be getting the nod ahead of Ash since he's showed more consistency than Ash. I mean the guy did average in the mid 30's in 2010 in both ODI's and Tests which Ash has failed to do in his career.

Even though SN was very poor in ODI's last year, he had a decent year in Tests with an average of about a 30 and 3 fifties. As he showed last year against Pakistan, once he gets comfortable at the crease, he can make it count. He just has to be more consistent and if he can, he can be a good batsman for us as an opener.

I also agree that Mushy needs to up his game. I don't see him being under pressure as of now since he's our best overall keeper batsman but it's time he starts taking his batting to a next level. He's shown that he can really bat under tough circumstances in Tests but he hasn't converted enough 50's in to 100's. I want to see him doing that more often this year.

And also Razzak as he showed last year against Zimbabwe, should be far away from the Test side, his flat deliveries is effective in the shorter versions but he's not a good option for Tests. Also disagree with you about Sunny, he did pretty well last year in Tests against WI and Pakistan. That's the type of attacking spinner we need in Tests. We should definitely give Enamul Jr. another look since he's picking up wickets at every level. Since Sohag Gazi is our only true offie that's international standard, we should be looking to develop him further so we can use him for Tests.

Gowza
October 13, 2012, 07:22 PM
i understand but i wouldnt count on Nasir as a back up. I rate Naeems bowling much higher than Nasir's. Naeem as i said is much for economical.

I think its important to have bowlers like Nasir and Naeem in the team. If our bowlers cant get wickets and there is a huge partnership building up then a bowler like Nasir and Naeem can provide a breakthrough wicket. Even the erratic Ashraful has a knack of providing breakthrough wickets.

But imo since Mushfiq is low down the order id leave him with the gloves and i would replace Dhiman with Naeem simply because he brings much more to the table.

i agree naeem is a more consistent bowler at this stage, nasir still can rip the ball and bowl magic balls though. but 5 genuine bowlers (shakib plus 4 specialists) should be enough and nasir should be a good enough back-up imo.

but in reality riyad will probably be in the team and provide some spin.

Gowza
October 13, 2012, 07:27 PM
Good and thoughtful post. I agree that both Naeem and Junaid do have something to offer for the longer version. Naeem's fighting 50 against England and his 45 against the WI when were in a free fall is still in my mind. He has the ability to really grind opposition to the ground. If he can start converting his starts in to big scores then he can really be a handy batsman for us in Tests.

I also liked Junaid in Tests in 2010. He got overlooked obviously by Tamim that year but he too made big strides in the longer version. What was very impressive about him was the way he fought against England in their own conditions. It showed he had guts and determination. Unfortunately he got overlooked by Ash and Nafees last year. In my opinion, he should be getting the nod ahead of Ash since he's showed more consistency than Ash. I mean the guy did average in the mid 30's in 2010 in both ODI's and Tests which Ash has failed to do in his career.

Even though SN was very poor in ODI's last year, he had a decent year in Tests with an average of about a 30 and 3 fifties. As he showed last year against Pakistan, once he gets comfortable at the crease, he can make it count. He just has to be more consistent and if he can, he can be a good batsman for us as an opener.

I also agree that Mushy needs to up his game. I don't see him being under pressure as of now since he's our best overall keeper batsman but it's time he starts taking his batting to a next level. He's shown that he can really bat under tough circumstances in Tests but he hasn't converted enough 50's in to 100's. I want to see him doing that more often this year.

And also Razzak as he showed last year against Zimbabwe, should be far away from the Test side, his flat deliveries is effective in the shorter versions but he's not a good option for Tests. Also disagree with you about Sunny, he did pretty well last year in Tests against WI and Pakistan. That's the type of attacking spinner we need in Tests. We should definitely give Enamul Jr. another look since he's picking up wickets at every level. Since Sohag Gazi is our only true offie that's international standard, we should be looking to develop him further so we can use him for Tests.

that's why mushy shouldn't keep wicket, if he just bats he has to up his batting or he's dropped. agree with spinners, sunny is good and attacking, enamul has been picking up tons of wickets and sohag has been really impressive so far, great strike rates and averages and he's our leading offie.

Abid_Khan
October 13, 2012, 07:54 PM
Only recipe is to feed them off curry. We have no chance against Chris Gayle, Samuels and Co with our bowling attack

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 07:57 PM
Our #2 and #3 options are wide open. I mean anyone ranging from Anamul to Mominul to Nafees to Nazimuddin could slot into those positions. For me its a lucky dip for who should open and bat at #3.

As for the bowling id love to see Shakib, Enamul, Sunny carving it up but i dont think we will be heading into a test match with 2 pacers. We have done it numerous times before but this time round i dont think that will happen.

As for Naeem i think he deserves a spot in the national team.

Take a lucky dip from these players
Nazimuddin
Mominul Haque
Shahriar Nafees
Anamul Haque
Junaid Siddique
Jahurul Islam
Mohammad Ashraful
Imrul Kayes

Gowza
October 13, 2012, 08:05 PM
Our #2 and #3 options are wide open. I mean anyone ranging from Anamul to Mominul to Nafees to Nazimuddin could slot into those positions. For me its a lucky dip for who should open and bat at #3.

As for the bowling id love to see Shakib, Enamul, Sunny carving it up but i dont think we will be heading into a test match with 2 pacers. We have done it numerous times before but this time round i dont think that will happen.

As for Naeem i think he deserves a spot in the national team.

Take a lucky dip from these players
Nazimuddin
Mominul Haque
Shahriar Nafees
Anamul Haque
Junaid Siddique
Jahurul Islam
Mohammad Ashraful
Imrul Kayes

i think if we don't bring in both anamul and mominul we should at least bring in one, hopefully the selectors think the same. i think sohag needs to be in serious contention because if we ever do play 3 spinners, a little variation would be good as oppose to 3 SLAs.

Ajfar
October 13, 2012, 08:48 PM
I think for ODI we need to bring Imrul back as Tamim partner. Despite his slow SR, problem with short ball and edgy at the beginning of the innings, he was still a decent partner for Tamim. Granted most of the time Tamim was the one carrying their partnership for the most part. Anamul's List A record isn't all that great, less said about Nazimuddin & Big Z in ODI the better.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
i think if we don't bring in both anamul and mominul we should at least bring in one, hopefully the selectors think the same. i think sohag needs to be in serious contention because if we ever do play 3 spinners, a little variation would be good as oppose to 3 SLAs.

Ya I hope they bring in 1 of them at least. The thing is, the selectors might want them playing a full season of the NCL since they are relatively young. I won't have a problem with that but I really hope that this year's NCL isn't "picnic cricket." I hope there are foreign pacers that can give them a good challenge. If the NCL can be at the level of BPL and DPL, then it would be good for Anamul and Mominul to continue playing in the NCL.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 09:04 PM
I think for ODI we need to bring Imrul back as Tamim partner. Despite his slow SR, problem with short ball and edgy at the beginning of the innings, he was still a decent partner for Tamim. Granted most of the time Tamim was the one carrying their partnership for the most part. Anamul's List A record isn't all that great, less said about Nazimuddin & Big Z in ODI the better.

Agreed. Despite Imrul's limitations as opener, he's still been Tamim's best partner to date in ODI's and Tamim has admitted that. Plus in the recent A team tour, Imrul did pretty well in the OD leg of the tour and was good in the A team tour against the England Lions. So I would still have him as opener for the ODI team. For T20I's, however Junaid should be the opener alongsides Tamim.

kalpurush
October 13, 2012, 10:16 PM
I think for ODI we need to bring Imrul back as Tamim partner. Despite his slow SR, problem with short ball and edgy at the beginning of the innings, he was still a decent partner for Tamim. Granted most of the time Tamim was the one carrying their partnership for the most part. Anamul's List A record isn't all that great, less said about Nazimuddin & Big Z in ODI the better.
Yes. for ODI, Imrul should open with TI. It will be unfair to Imrul if he doesn't get a chance in the ODI IMHO.

kalpurush
October 13, 2012, 10:22 PM
i think if we don't bring in both anamul and mominul we should at least bring in one, hopefully the selectors think the same. i think sohag needs to be in serious contention because if we ever do play 3 spinners, a little variation would be good as oppose to 3 SLAs.
For the 1st test, I would bring Anamul and Mominul in #2 nad #3 positions respectively.

Fow bowling, RBX (provided he is ready to play) as pacer and Enamul Jr as spinner along with Sunny. I am not sure though who would be the other pacer?

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
Agreed. Despite Imrul's limitations as opener, he's still been Tamim's best partner to date in ODI's and Tamim has admitted that.

When did he admit that?

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 10:37 PM
When did he admit that?

In articles from a while back. Can't dig them out right now. Tamim has backed Imrul quite a few times.

Tiger444
October 13, 2012, 10:39 PM
For the 1st test, I would bring Anamul and Mominul in #2 nad #3 positions respectively.

Fow bowling, RBX (provided he is ready to play) as pacer and Enamul Jr as spinner along with Sunny. I am not sure though who would be the other pacer?

Selectors will probably end up selecting Shafiul or Shahadat.

BengaliPagol
October 13, 2012, 11:33 PM
Tamim has backed Imrul quite a few times.

thats good news then :)

shivfan
October 14, 2012, 03:45 AM
You guys should throw out fudadin or Powell and bring Dwayne bravo or Barath in tests. Powell is mediocre

No chance of that happening, unfortunately....

http://www.windiesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1748:permaul-named-in-test-squad-for-bangladesh-tour&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

West Indies Test squad: Darren Sammy (c), Denesh Ramdin (vc), Tino Best, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Narsingh Deonarine, Kirk Edwards, Assad Fudadin, Chris Gayle, Sunil Narine, Veerasammy Permaul, Kieran Powell, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Marlon Samuels.

Gowza
October 14, 2012, 05:44 AM
For the 1st test, I would bring Anamul and Mominul in #2 nad #3 positions respectively.

Fow bowling, RBX (provided he is ready to play) as pacer and Enamul Jr as spinner along with Sunny. I am not sure though who would be the other pacer?

me to, i'd have anamul at #2 and mominul at #3. RBX would play if fit, 2nd pacer is a difficult one because mash has his injury record but probably shahadat or shafiul would be picked, trouble is abul didn't do that well for the national team and the next leading domestic pacers (al amin, abu jayed) haven't been tested in A team cricket. for a 3rd spinner imo it's clearly between enamul and sohag. enamul has been getting tons of wickets and has the experience internationally and in A team but wasn't a big success when he did play internationally, sohag has a great domestic record with a great strike rate (very much needed in tests) but he hasn't got the international or A team experience.

mij
October 14, 2012, 07:39 AM
The big recipe is does our players believe they can win??????

WindieFan
October 14, 2012, 08:14 AM
No chance of that happening, unfortunately....

http://www.windiesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1748:permaul-named-in-test-squad-for-bangladesh-tour&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

West Indies Test squad: Darren Sammy (c), Denesh Ramdin (vc), Tino Best, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Narsingh Deonarine, Kirk Edwards, Assad Fudadin, Chris Gayle, Sunil Narine, Veerasammy Permaul, Kieran Powell, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Marlon Samuels.

"Unfortunately"? are you serious? :facepalm: for a start Dwayne hardly set the world on fire when he was last playing tests and young Powell has just got a big ton against NZ in the last series and done well alongside Gayle, so it was obvious that he would retain his place,

Would have liked to have seen Delorn Johnson, Gabriel or Cotterrell get a chance but it looks like Sammy's position makes that impossible right now,

Imo the team will be

Gayle
Powell
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Chanderpaul
Deonarine
Ramdin (wk)
Sammy (c)
Narine
Roach
Rampaul

i think we'll do very well to be honest!! :D , in the bowling department Narine is on fire and Roach has just been sensational for us over the last year, infact i think he's one of the top wicket takers in 2012, and in the batting unit Bravo, Chanders and Samuels make a tasty little combination, Deonarine's off-spin will also come in handy considering he's taken 4fers vs Australia and NZ recently.

So may the best team win!! :up:

Gowza
October 14, 2012, 09:30 AM
"Unfortunately"? are you serious? :facepalm: for a start Dwayne hardly set the world on fire when he was last playing tests and young Powell has just got a big ton against NZ in the last series and done well alongside Gayle, so it was obvious that he would retain his place,

Would have liked to have seen Delorn Johnson, Gabriel or Cotterrell get a chance but it looks like Sammy's position makes that impossible right now,

Imo the team will be

Gayle
Powell
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Chanderpaul
Deonarine
Ramdin (wk)
Sammy (c)
Narine
Roach
Rampaul

i think we'll do very well to be honest!! :D , in the bowling department Narine is on fire and Roach has just been sensational for us over the last year, infact i think he's one of the top wicket takers in 2012, and in the batting unit Bravo, Chanders and Samuels make a tasty little combination, Deonarine's off-spin will also come in handy considering he's taken 4fers vs Australia and NZ recently.

So may the best team win!! :up:

i thought cotterrell had a chance to be selected, he had a good series against the BD A team.

BrianLara7
October 14, 2012, 10:34 AM
No chance of that happening, unfortunately....

http://www.windiesfans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1748:permaul-named-in-test-squad-for-bangladesh-tour&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50

West Indies Test squad: Darren Sammy (c), Denesh Ramdin (vc), Tino Best, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Narsingh Deonarine, Kirk Edwards, Assad Fudadin, Chris Gayle, Sunil Narine, Veerasammy Permaul, Kieran Powell, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Marlon Samuels.

Well there is no place for Powell in the main xi from those 15. Chris gayle, Kirk edwards should open. Bravo, Chanderpaul, Samuels and Deonarine makes a good batting lineup with Ramdin at 7. Sammy at 8 as all rounder and narine, Rampaul and Roach makes a decent bowling lineup. That's a pretty good test team actually, they can definitely beat sides like Sri lanka in tests.

BengaliPagol
October 15, 2012, 04:09 AM
"Unfortunately"? are you serious? :facepalm: for a start Dwayne hardly set the world on fire when he was last playing tests and young Powell has just got a big ton against NZ in the last series and done well alongside Gayle, so it was obvious that he would retain his place,

Would have liked to have seen Delorn Johnson, Gabriel or Cotterrell get a chance but it looks like Sammy's position makes that impossible right now,

Imo the team will be

Gayle
Powell
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Chanderpaul
Deonarine
Ramdin (wk)
Sammy (c)
Narine
Roach
Rampaul

i think we'll do very well to be honest!! :D , in the bowling department Narine is on fire and Roach has just been sensational for us over the last year, infact i think he's one of the top wicket takers in 2012, and in the batting unit Bravo, Chanders and Samuels make a tasty little combination, Deonarine's off-spin will also come in handy considering he's taken 4fers vs Australia and NZ recently.

So may the best team win!! :up:

We have already lost the series before it even began. We are big time screwed with Gayle at the top. Gayle will face our mediocre pace bowlers at the beginning of the innings and there will be no one to put him under pressure early on (yes even Rubel wont do that job because he is bad in tests). Closest person would be Nazmul if he even gets picked. He showed that he can get put good batsmen under pressure when he bowled well to the Paki batsmen in the Dhaka test.

Darren Bravo who is a bit out of form but is a class batsmen will dismantle our pace bowling. Chanderpaul is too good and will really play our bowlers with ease. I guess we are going to rely on Shakib, Enamul and Elias very heavily. Mahmudullah might even chime in.

Our batsmen might really struggle to play Narine. Spinning conditions are going to suit Narine and he is in good form. Roach will fire in and scare our batsmen. Im really worried about this tour. The only way to win any of the matches is to hope that Elias, Enamul and Shakib are in top form and really hope that they dismantle the West Indies batting lineup.

mij
October 15, 2012, 04:47 AM
We have already lost the series before it even began. We are big time screwed with Gayle at the top. Gayle will face our mediocre pace bowlers at the beginning of the innings and there will be no one to put him under pressure early on (yes even Rubel wont do that job because he is bad in tests). Closest person would be Nazmul if he even gets picked. He showed that he can get put good batsmen under pressure when he bowled well to the Paki batsmen in the Dhaka test.

Darren Bravo who is a bit out of form but is a class batsmen will dismantle our pace bowling. Chanderpaul is too good and will really play our bowlers with ease. I guess we are going to rely on Shakib, Enamul and Elias very heavily. Mahmudullah might even chime in.

Our batsmen might really struggle to play Narine. Spinning conditions are going to suit Narine and he is in good form. Roach will fire in and scare our batsmen. Im really worried about this tour. The only way to win any of the matches is to hope that Elias, Enamul and Shakib are in top form and really hope that they dismantle the West Indies batting lineup.

Yes, that's what I thought.

AsifTheManRahman
October 15, 2012, 08:48 AM
'Not taking Bangladesh lightly' - Gayle

West Indies opener Chris Gayle (http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/51880.html) has said that he wouldn't take anything for granted in his team's upcoming tour of Bangladesh. Even though West Indies have lost only an ODI and a Twenty20 each in Bangladesh, he described the hosts as "dangerous at home".


The left-hand batsman was named in the 15-man Test squad which will arrive in Dhaka on November 3 to play two Tests. West Indies will also play five one-day internationals and a Twenty20 international.



"It is going to be a very challenging [series]. We know how dangerous Bangladesh can be at home. It's not a team where you want to go there and take lightly," said Gayle. "You've got to be mindful of the conditions and try and add up as quickly as possible and settle as much and whenever you get a chance, just try and maintain it and take it from there."
More (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/current/story/586716.html)


So basically eto hishab nikash kore labh nai, amader shonar putrora ki khel dekhabe already jana ase.

SS
October 15, 2012, 12:41 PM
More (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/current/story/586716.html)


So basically eto hishab nikash kore labh nai, amader shonar putrora ki khel dekhabe already jana ase.

Gayle Gangman style vs. Motin's Chele to noi jeno aguner gola....

shivfan
October 16, 2012, 03:40 AM
Well there is no place for Powell in the main xi from those 15. Chris gayle, Kirk edwards should open. Bravo, Chanderpaul, Samuels and Deonarine makes a good batting lineup with Ramdin at 7. Sammy at 8 as all rounder and narine, Rampaul and Roach makes a decent bowling lineup. That's a pretty good test team actually, they can definitely beat sides like Sri lanka in tests.

The thing is, WIndieFan and the WICB are big fans of Powell, even though he has a Test batting average of just 25....
:D
So, his name will be one of the first pencilled in. IMHO, Powell needs to do a lot more than score one Test century to earn his place in the side. Adrian Barath scored a Test century, and he's declined to be out of the reckoning. Yes, Powell scored a Test against a weak Kiwi side, but I'm not convinced that he's the long-term solution to finding an opening partner who can actually stick with Gayle.

The problem with Dwayne Bravo is that he hardly ever plays any four-day cricket these days, so has done little to earn a recall to the Test side, even though he's a fixture in the limited overs version. But if he's making more money as a T20 player than he ever did as a Test player, I suppose the question is, why should he?

Kohli_Sox
October 16, 2012, 04:39 AM
Gayle is weak against Off Spin, it's proven. We should bowl Mahmudullah to Gayle as much as possible. There should be a definite plan against Gayle with Off spin. SL managed to do it when they played WI by bowling Dilshan and NZ tried to do it with Williamson.

NoName
October 16, 2012, 11:12 AM
Take us lightly Gayle!

roman
October 16, 2012, 06:38 PM
Have the WI players eat some shahi footpath chotpoti. Shara raaat bathroom ei Gangnam style cholbe tader. Series jita amader thekay ke?

reyme
October 16, 2012, 07:47 PM
First Test match of the year, and we don't even have a schedule for training or preparation! Great head coach indeed...

WindieFan
October 19, 2012, 10:27 AM
The thing is, WIndieFan and the WICB are big fans of Powell, even though he has a Test batting average of just 25....
:D
So, his name will be one of the first pencilled in. IMHO, Powell needs to do a lot more than score one Test century to earn his place in the side. Adrian Barath scored a Test century, and he's declined to be out of the reckoning. Yes, Powell scored a Test against a weak Kiwi side, but I'm not convinced that he's the long-term solution to finding an opening partner who can actually stick with Gayle.

The problem with Dwayne Bravo is that he hardly ever plays any four-day cricket these days, so has done little to earn a recall to the Test side, even though he's a fixture in the limited overs version. But if he's making more money as a T20 player than he ever did as a Test player, I suppose the question is, why should he?

Erm i guess you haven't heard of young players developing AND improving right? :facepalm: lets remember Powell scored a ton in England against England Lions, then came back to the caribbean and scored a big ton against India-A AND THEN went and scored another big ton against NZ, so what more could he have done exactly? :-/ the fact is you might think NZ are a "weak" team but Gayle barely done better against them than Powell did, which is why he will rightly keep his place and i fully expect him to do well in this tour.

And in closing Barath scored a ton on his debut and then went downhill, while Powell started off bad and is now improving, so comparing them is a little naive imo.

BrianLara7
October 19, 2012, 04:55 PM
Erm i guess you haven't heard of young players developing AND improving right? :facepalm: lets remember Powell scored a ton in England against England Lions, then came back to the caribbean and scored a big ton against India-A AND THEN went and scored another big ton against NZ, so what more could he have done exactly? :-/ the fact is you might think NZ are a "weak" team but Gayle barely done better against them than Powell did, which is why he will rightly keep his place and i fully expect him to do well in this tour.

And in closing Barath scored a ton on his debut and then went downhill, while Powell started off bad and is now improving, so comparing them is a little naive imo.

no offense but Powell looks like a terrible player, as bad as most of our batsmen which is not a compliment. Should invest in better players for test matches.

WindieFan
October 20, 2012, 12:17 AM
no offense but Powell looks like a terrible player, as bad as most of our batsmen which is not a compliment. Should invest in better players for test matches.

I believe your statement is misguided, the boy is only 22 for god sake, how many 22 year old openers are scoring tons at international level these days? i can tell you you won't find many.

BengaliPagol
October 20, 2012, 02:10 AM
how many 22 year old openers are scoring tons at international level these days?

Mohammad Ashraful back in his hay days. And yet he was only 17 when he scored his maiden test century. But that doesnt necessarily mean he is a good player.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/282986.html

TimAus
October 21, 2012, 03:05 AM
My Test XI:

Tamim
Nazimuddin
Monimul
Shakib
Nasir
Mahmudullah
Rahim
Sunny
Enamul Haq Jr
Rubel
Shafiul

Number 3 has been a problem for so long you need some new blood and stick with it

Rifat
October 21, 2012, 04:40 AM
Have the WI players eat some shahi footpath chotpoti. Shara raaat bathroom ei Gangnam style cholbe tader. Series jita amader thekay ke?

I would take an honest victory over this anyday :)

Rifat
October 21, 2012, 04:42 AM
This is the strongest WIndies lineup in contemporary times. Taking things lightly and casually will not really help to our cause.

Rifat
October 21, 2012, 04:44 AM
My Test XI:

Tamim
Nazimuddin
Monimul
Shakib
Nasir
Mahmudullah
Rahim
Sunny
Enamul Haq Jr
Rubel
Shafiul

Number 3 has been a problem for so long you need some new blood and stick with it

Two changes: Nazmul Hossain in for Shafiul Islam, Naeem Islam in for Mominul Haque. actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Both Mominul Haque and Naeem given a go in tests....

BANFAN
October 21, 2012, 05:59 AM
I believe your statement is misguided, the boy is only 22 for god sake, how many 22 year old openers are scoring tons at international level these days? i can tell you you won't find many.

Mohammad Ashraful back in his hay days. And yet he was only 17 when he scored his maiden test century. But that doesnt necessarily mean he is a good player.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/282986.html

When you say that, you are considering both BD and WI having an equally in efficient system of development in place. That's not true, so that guy in WI has a much better chance of turning into a great player even having lesser potential than the guy in your example.

Look at the guys in their adhoc squad that we have beaten in their backyard, during players' strike... See, some of them have improved so much to find a place in their national team in various formats. While our players are still the same in quality and we are still looking towards new players... Our system doesn't improve a player, it's inefficient. If someone like Shakib improved, it's not the credit of the system.

shivfan
November 1, 2012, 07:12 AM
Interesting news for Bangla fans....

Kemar Roach is out with injury, and he's been replaced by Fidel Edwards in the squad:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/current/story/589206.html

DMan
November 1, 2012, 09:29 AM
Yea Mike I posted a thread about that news already. The bangla fans are still trembling in their boots at the idea of Edwards on the team though. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nadim
November 2, 2012, 05:03 PM
Beshi beshi kurbanir mangso khao. Dekhben ball e ball e chokka marbe with ease. Just like Tamim did today in ncl.:S
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kalpurush
November 2, 2012, 06:31 PM
Beshi beshi kurbanir mangso khao. Dekhben ball e ball e chokka marbe with ease. Just like Tamim did today in ncl.:S

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Now that chhokka Naeem got his form back along with Enam Jr., our test team should be as below if we want to win... ::flag:

TI
Naeem
Mominul
Mushy
Mullah
Shakib
Nasir
Enam Jr
Sunny
RBX
Shahadat/Nazmul

12. Gazi/sarker
13. Anamul
14. Zunaid

Gowza
November 2, 2012, 08:11 PM
naeem for sure in the squad but i think he should get a middle order spot if he is in the XI, despite naeem being a batsman that likes to stay at the crease for long lengths facing the new ball and wearing it down and taking the shine off it is much different to beginning your innings with the ball already quite a few overs old and naeem doesn't open. if he's being looked at as an opener he really needs to bat as opener or #3 in domestics. he's been batting at #4. plus nasir has proven himself much more at the international level in tests and ODIs than naeem has.

also i'm interested to understand why so many pick nasir for the #7 role. he doesn't bowl much, and he is one player that has a cool head on his shoulders. for me the main battle for batting positions in the XI is between nasir and naeem, i think only one can get a spot and they'll be at #4 or #5 depending on where you want shakib to bat. BD isn't SA, they don't have the luxury of stacking the batting down to #7 (with duminy) and still having a world class bowling attack. BD needs the batting strength but also needs the bowling strength which is why i believe #7 needs to go to some sort of an allrounder even if it's a keeper batsman. with that people will say put mushy there, that's great and all for batting depth but he's been one of the best test batsmen for BD over the last few years so it only makes sense to put him in the top 6, best spot for him is at #6 where he has a bit more time to make an innings but can also finish and bat with the tail (which he's also been good at).

1 tamim
2 anamul
3 mominul
4 nasir/shakib
5 nasir/shakib
6 mushy
7 dhiman/sohag/babu
8 sunny
9 enamul
10 rubel
11 nazmul

junaid is not an option as opener imo, he failed there, where he was best at was #3 so for those who want him in the team i think you need to place him there rather than opener.

shahadat can be back up pacer, though shafiul is also an option. we could have had one of the up and coming pacers as a back up but abul has been failing and none of the ones in the A team did well and the best prospects haven't been given chnaces (abu and al amin).

sarkar, asif and shuvagata are definitely ones to watch but they miss out this time. for pacers we keep an eye on abu, al amin, kazi kamrul, subashis and sajidul. for spinners i think we are pretty set, saqlain is the next in and for variation we can look at nur and tapash for some leggy's down the line but for now we stick with shakib, sunny, sohag and enamul.

where is riyad? against quality test teams he's not a consistent bowling option and he's not been doing well with the bat for awhile plus middle order spots are tough to get right now with nasir and shakib doing well, mushy being a permanent fixture and naeem scoring well in the NCL. plus shuvagata has a good record to, and if mominul isn't being considered as a #3 then he's surely up there as a middle order contender to.

BengaliPagol
November 2, 2012, 09:00 PM
also i'm interested to understand why so many pick nasir for the #7 role. he doesn't bowl much, and he is one player that has a cool head on his shoulders. for me the main battle for batting positions in the XI is between nasir and naeem, i think only one can get a spot and they'll be at #4 or #5 depending on where you want shakib to bat.

This is exactly why Nasir should bat at #7 for tests only. Tests isnt T20 where you need to score quick runs all the time. The role of the #7 depends purely on the situation and Nasir will fit well into the equation because he can change gears anytime he wants to. Personally i want Nasir to bat at #6.

Naeem should definitely be in the starting national team.

I understand why you want Nasir to bat higher up the order. But think of him as Mike Hussey. Hussey is more than capable to be able to bat at #4 or #5 in tests but at #6 he is really dependable for the team. Even though Hussey bats at #6 he has a batting average of 50 and has 16 hundreds to his name. And there were many situations where he saved Australia from defeats because he hung on with the tail. Thats the sort of player i think Nasir is so thats why i want Nasir at #6.

The importance of Hussey to the Aussie team at #6 sums it up when he made a 107-run 10th-wicket partnership with Glenn McGrath which i think saved that test match. I think Nasir fits that role perfectly so i say leave him at #6. Dont get Tests confused with T20 or ODIs. Batting at #6 is just as important as opening because at #6 you have develop the art of hanging on with the tail and scoring runs which i think is a real art in itself.

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Mominul Haque
4. Naeem Islam
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Nasir Hossain
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Elias Sunny
9. Enamul Haque jnr
10. Nazmul Hossain
11. Rubel Hossain

Gowza
November 2, 2012, 09:29 PM
hussey batted most of his test career at the #4 and #5 positions, opened a small amount of times and has played a bit at #6 (13 matches) but he played 25 matches at #5 and 37 at #4 out of his 73 test matches.

nasir being calm and collected means the higher he bats in the middle order then the more runs he should make.

BengaliPagol
November 2, 2012, 09:50 PM
hussey batted most of his test career at the #4 and #5 positions, opened a small amount of times and has played a bit at #6 (13 matches) but he played 25 matches at #5 and 37 at #4 out of his 73 test matches.

nasir being calm and collected means the higher he bats in the middle order then the more runs he should make.

But Hussey now bats at #6 and has made that spot his own. Thats what i meant by the similarities between Hussey and Nasir (not by the way they play) but because of the roles they play in their team. Nasir is the perfect fit at #6. He will play the Hussey role in the team and i think he will be an asset to the team there. Naeem is scoring 100's at #4 so let him stay there. Shakib has always batted at #5 in tests so leave him there. That means Nasir at #6.