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MarufH
October 7, 2012, 05:08 PM
This article from PA suggest that

1. R. Pybus never signed a contract.
(How is he getting paid then? Only in BD!)

2. BCB wants to give 45 vacation days a year.
(Thats not enough?!)

3. He is opposed to Saqlain Mushtaq spin camp.
(Huh! Whats his deal! Not knowing inside reason, I thought someone like Saqlain can help our spinners a lot)

4. He wants to have McInnes run National and A team
(what will Pybus do then?)

5. He left for vacation after T20 WC without any notice.

Clearly BCB operations committee is not happy about his approach. I personally think coach should have freedom. However, he still needs to report to someone.

Discuss....

[বাংলা]আগে চুক্তি সই, তারপর অন্য আলোচনা—রিচার্ড পাইবাসকে এমন নির্দেশনা দেওয়ার সিদ্ধান্ত হয়েছে বিসিবির ক্রিকেট পরিচালনা বিভাগের গতকালের সভায়। গত জুন থেকে বাংলাদেশ দলের কোচের দায়িত্ব পালন করলেও বছরে ৪৫ দিন ছুটির শর্তে আপত্তি জানিয়ে এখনো চুক্তিতে সই করেননি ইংলিশ বংশোদ্ভূত দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকান কোচ।
[/বাংলা]

Read More: http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-10-08/news/296183

MarufH
October 7, 2012, 05:11 PM
[বাংলা]বন্ধ হয়েই আবার চালু সাকলায়েনের স্পিন ক্যাম্প
বোর্ড-কোচ-ম্যাকিন্স জটিলতা বাড়ছেই (http://dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=International&pub_no=1026&cat_id=1&menu_id=18&news_type_id=1&index=1)

ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক : 'কার অনুমতি নিয়ে স্পিন বোলিং ক্যাম্প করাচ্ছেন সাকলায়েন'- ই-মেইল বার্তায় বজ নিনাদ শুনিয়ে দেওয়ার উপায় নেই, তবে রিচার্ড পাইবাসের ভাষার গজরানি ঠিকই আছড়ে পড়েছে বিসিবির ক্রিকেট অপারেশন্স কমিটিতে। তাই তাৎক্ষণিকভাবে বন্ধ করে দেওয়া হয় সাকলায়েন মুশতাকের অধীনে আবদুর রাজ্জাক, মাহমুদ উল্লাহ এবং ইলিয়াস সানির বিশেষ স্পিন শিক্ষা কার্যক্রম। তবে সন্ধ্যায় জাতীয় দলের কোচের স্বেচ্ছাচারিতা প্রতিরোধে নিজেদের কর্মপরিকল্পনা ঠিক করার শুরুতেই ওই স্পিন ক্যাম্প পুনরায় চালুর সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়া হয় বলে জানিয়েছেন বিসিবি পরিচালক জালাল ইউনুস। একইসঙ্গে জাতীয় দলের জন্য পরবর্তী পরিকল্পনাও দ্রুত জানাতে বলা হবে রিচার্ড পাইবাসকে।
জাতীয় দলের প্রতিটি সফরের পরই ছুটিতে যান রিচার্ড পাইবাস। তবে সেই ছুটি কার কাছ থেকে নেন কিংবা কবে ফিরবেন, তা কাউকে আগাম জানানোর প্রয়োজন মনে করেন না তিনি। এবারও দেশে পৌঁছে ক্রিকেট অপারেশন্সকে এক ই-মেইল বার্তায় পাইবাস জানিয়েছেন, 'কবে ফিরব এখনো ঠিক করে উঠতে পারিনি।' [/বাংলা]

kalpurush
October 7, 2012, 09:20 PM
I won't blame Pybus, rather I would blame BCB for allowing him to take advantage.
It seems BCB has no control over it's employees! Not surprised!!

jeesh
October 7, 2012, 11:20 PM
Wow. Not looking good. So coach hunt will start again soon?

Expecting RM to run both academy and national team camp is unacceptable.

Gowza
October 7, 2012, 11:37 PM
Thought pybus would be dedicated to improving BD cricket, I realise coaches need breaks to but he just got the job not that long ago and the team didn't do so well in this WC plus WI series isn't to far away. Is it a scheduling reason why he took the break now? Otherwise why would he take the break right before a very important series?

Dilscoop
October 7, 2012, 11:53 PM
Translation? Google sucks at Bangla

jeesh
October 8, 2012, 12:57 AM
Thought pybus would be dedicated to improving BD cricket, I realise coaches need breaks to but he just got the job not that long ago and the team didn't do so well in this WC plus WI series isn't to far away. Is it a scheduling reason why he took the break now? Otherwise why would he take the break right before a very important series?
Exactly! And whats with the stopping Saqlain from having a camp?

Gowza
October 8, 2012, 01:21 AM
Exactly! And whats with the stopping Saqlain from having a camp?

i don't even understand how he can stop saqlain from having a camp, wouldn't BCB have a say in that?

Rabz
October 8, 2012, 02:03 AM
Je jay lankay shei hoy Rabon.
Inept BCB, undisciplined employee !!

Doesn't matter how good he is, if he is not going to abide by the law, sack him and move on.

jeesh
October 8, 2012, 02:05 AM
He gave us a bit of trouble before signing him also didnt he? Kept us in the dark for a long time.

BengaliPagol
October 8, 2012, 02:19 AM
Let Shakib be player/coach and Mushfiq can be captain :)

Might as well since our coaches leave us every 2 months.

Maysun
October 8, 2012, 04:15 AM
Bangladesh coach Pybus yet to sign BCB contract
Mohammad Isam
October 8, 2012

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/150300/150383.2.jpg

The Bangladesh Cricket Board has said it is concerned that Richard Pybus, who took over as the national team's head coach in May, hasn't yet signed a contract with the board. The BCB took up the matter on Sunday after it came to the media's notice.

The board's cricket operations committee, in a meeting, asked the acting CEO Nizamuddin Chowdhury to communicate with Pybus, who returned to South Africa last week. He had given the national players a rest before playing in the first-class competition, the National Cricket League, which was supposed to start on October 14 and run till the Eid holidays later this month. But since the NCL's scheduled start has been delayed, the board now expects Pybus to start the national team's training programme earlier.

Read More.. (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/586042.html?CMP=outlook_news)

How dumb are the BCB, seriously? They let a person coach the NT without asking him to sign the contract ?! :facepalm: :smh:

Just goes to show how unprofessional these people are. Just ridiculous! Of course then, Pybus is entitled to leave without any notice and he decides how long he wants to holiday because he didn't sign the damn contract!

BANFAN
October 8, 2012, 05:28 AM
We are hearing all one sided stories from BCB, RP may be inappropriate for our coaching job, but he is getting away with not signing the contract on some ground, I'm sure.

LK must have promised things to RP to not to lose his love, i guess those weren't reflected in the contract, so the marriage is delayed.... :)

mij
October 8, 2012, 07:11 AM
How dumb are the BCB, seriously? They let a person coach the NT without asking him to sign the contract ?! :facepalm: :smh:

Just goes to show how unprofessional these people are. Just ridiculous! Of course then, Pybus is entitled to leave without any notice and he decides how long he wants to holiday because he didn't sign the damn contract!


Hi ra Bangali never learn.

Naimul_Hd
October 8, 2012, 08:01 AM
Only happens in Bangladesh (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=41496) :)

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
Problems problems and problems. That's all we get from bcb. When are we ever getting a solution? Bcb is at fault here. Why would you give that kinda advantage to anybody? I hope Pybus doesn't ruin the relationship of richard mccinnes and bangladesh!
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MarufH
October 8, 2012, 08:58 AM
Translation? Google sucks at Bangla

I did write down the top points in first post. Also you can read the cricinfo version of the news HERE. (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/586042.html?CMP=outlook_news)

Too lazy to translate all that. lol

jeesh
October 8, 2012, 09:00 AM
Need to professionalize BCB. Need to hire a CEO with real world experience who will be given total freedom of day to day operation without MK poking at every issue and micro managing. Sometimes better to higher a foreign sports administrator than a local one. For example one of our former CEO's the Zimbabwean Macky Dudhia was a very tough, no nonsense character. No one could mess with him. I know someone who worked at BCB who told me the guy tried to root out corruption and run BCB like a full fledged corporation. Someone like that would never allow Pybus to take advantage how he did.

Of course easier said that done. A fish rots from its head. Would our supremes ever allow the CEO to function without interfering in everything. Would they even give a damn to what a specialist would suggest.

Recently Sri Lanka has appointed former ICC CEO Haroon Lorgat as a consultant to Sri Lanka cricket. He is going to play a role in professionalizing Sri Lanka Cricket, revamping domestic cricket etc. Their chiefs here are willing to listen and develop the game.

oronnya
October 8, 2012, 11:14 AM
Never liked the idea of hiring of Pybus due to his past record.. chhechrar moto etto high paid coach er shob dabi mene newatao oshojhhokor chhilo.. I wanted someone who would have more passion for coaching and cricket rather than the one who has already earned his reputation and have nothing new to add.

Anyways ja hoyechhe to hoyechhei oita niye matha kute more ekhon labh nei.. Now we should just get the best out of Pybus.. And for a team like BD you can't actually blame the coach for all the losses but definitely I lost my respect for him after reading these stuffs which shows he doesn't have the minimum work ethic or passion to improve the team performance.. He definitely didn't take the job as a challenge and is not ready to give his 200%.. And if the coach himself fails to set a work standard we can't expect our players to give their 200% or respect and listen to the coach as much..

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
Exactly! Pybus er eto vaab. Eto vaab kintu bhalo na! I never liked what he did to us before we signed him! I don't think I like his ways of doing things now either.
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reyme
October 8, 2012, 12:29 PM
The sooner he goes, the better it is for our cricket.

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 01:01 PM
I think we should fire Pybus and hire HM Ershad as our next coach

oronnya
October 8, 2012, 01:07 PM
I think we should fire Pybus and hire HM Ershad as our next coach

good idea .. he won't do anything worse than Pybus with our world bitters ;)

roman
October 8, 2012, 01:44 PM
Many people hated Law when he first started and many even here in BC were arguing about why BCB hired Law with minimal coaching experience, some didnt like the number of days he took off as well. Paan theke Chun khoshlei "shob gelo shob gelo" rob uthto..After the Asia Cup the scenario did Change, he has become our national hero..

One good series for Pybus and this thread will take a U turn.

Dilscoop
October 8, 2012, 02:09 PM
^ BOOM. True talk.

/End.

WarWolf
October 8, 2012, 02:58 PM
Speechless

reyme
October 8, 2012, 02:59 PM
My prediction It will never take a U turn. It will only get worse. Why? Pybus is just not into this team. He will never relocate to Dhaka with his family. His heart is in South Africa. Do you know who is into us? Richard McInnes. That's why he moved to Dhaka with his kids and family!

Dilscoop
October 8, 2012, 03:10 PM
Time to bring back JS then. He was always in Dhaka...?

Only thing that concerns me is the contract part. Why hasn't he signed it yet? How did BCB let him in w/o a contract? How's that even possible?

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 03:13 PM
You can't blame Pybus or any other professional for going where the money is. Even though it's unprofessional to do what he is doing but this actually speaks volumes about the sheer incompetence of Lotus and Bcb to "hire" a coach and have him on the job for 3/4 months without even signing a conract.

Maysun
October 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
Time to bring back JS then. He was always in Dhaka...?

Only thing that concerns me is the contract part. Why hasn't he signed it yet? How did BCB let him in w/o a contract? How's that even possible?

Even a fantasy tournament was run more professionally :lol: ;)

AsifTheManRahman
October 8, 2012, 06:51 PM
Can't even hold on to a coach or get him to a sign a contract. Everything about our cricket is going completely wrong, and here some people think losing to Ireland is ok because apparently at a high level we're still on the right track.

Mr.Cricket
October 8, 2012, 07:14 PM
Can't even hold on to a coach or get him to a sign a contract. Everything about our cricket is going completely wrong, and here some people think losing to Ireland is ok because apparently at a high level we're still on the right track.

Thank-you for understanding. Let me show you guys a process, it might be wrong or misleading but i have to share it. Once a team starts going downhill, its hard to back up so quick. But before we can go back up, we have to stop ourselves from going downhill! What I mean is that we have to push the brakes on all this negativeness and make a stop. We cant expect to get on that track of going up, when we haven't stopped ourselves from going down. So lets have BCB cool down and think for a couple of days and then get into action. Otherwise, without professionalism, we're not gonna get away from the negative route and don't even think about taking the bus that gives you a ride in the positive road.

Much like this one: 9dont mind the number or the writings)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/ks3bitesize/maths/images/line_graph.gif

Watch how the line goes up,( which means the little success we got) then it keeps going downhill,(the constant failures and the unprofessionalism)then that thing takes its time and thinks very hard,( which is exactly what bcb must do to be professional) and after that, we'll have constant success, just like the graph shows!:):flag:

BrianLara7
October 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
Can't even hold on to a coach or get him to a sign a contract. Everything about our cricket is going completely wrong, and here some people think losing to Ireland is ok because apparently at a high level we're still on the right track.

When your premier batsman after losing against Netherlands and Scotland says plenty of positives you know something is not right

Kohli_Sox
October 8, 2012, 09:23 PM
I wonder about the commitment, is there any? He's pro alright but can't do things whichever way esp with things involving contract issues. After the failure of Zimbabwe-SA tri series, Europe Tour, Trinidad Tour and T20 WC, he should be in Bangladesh and already should have started Training camp let alone stopping one. He should probably take matters into his own hands and start the fast bowling camp too as he was mentor of several fast bowlers back in days- Steyn, Morkel to name few. Additionally he should be doing the batting camp too and give Saqlain the freedom to run Spin camp.

Naimul_Hd
October 8, 2012, 11:38 PM
From the beginning of his tenure, he looked reluctant and out of focus. He may be good manager handling big names, but when it comes to guiding and nurturing young talent like us, he seems ineffective (well so far).

Sometimes a College student can teach kids better than an PhD student. A college student may have less knowledge but knows what kids need and how effectively he can deliver.

jeesh
October 9, 2012, 02:26 AM
Sri Lanka has got a good coach in Graham Ford. He is quietly going about his job. Seems to have built an effective team.

Too bad we couldnt get him. He was in BCB's shortlist. For some reason we couldnt get him

Gowza
October 9, 2012, 02:34 AM
i really think pybus is a good coach, so i don't think quality of coach is an issue. but the coach needs more power when it comes to creating a better culture and infrastructure and better development facilities. of course the coach needs to stick around to do it. didn't siddons go on holiday early in his time or at an inappropriate time? seems like a lot of BD coaches do this.

BengaliPagol
October 9, 2012, 04:03 AM
i really think pybus is a good coach, so i don't think quality of coach is an issue. but the coach needs more power when it comes to creating a better culture and infrastructure and better development facilities. of course the coach needs to stick around to do it. didn't siddons go on holiday early in his time or at an inappropriate time? seems like a lot of BD coaches do this.

They probably want to get away from the harsh lifestyle or maybe the stench drives them crazy.

dash
October 9, 2012, 04:22 AM
These holidays are problem with foreign coaches....untill unless one is settled with his family in bd....that is one of the reasons why law left...and JS did have his family over in bd during the latter stages of his tenure

cricheart
October 9, 2012, 04:32 AM
imo BCB doin extra ordinary things here with contracts;

there was no contract signing with the franchises of BPL, still they managed to pay everyone and a very successful league was organised, despite few spot/match fixing allegations!
Nimbus signing was epic fail, but its still happened find our matches on tv!
without contract signing our National team head coach still agreed to spend time with the squad travelling America, Europe, Africa and with a handsome salary. inshallah Pybus will bring atleast one win over WIndies.

Navo
October 9, 2012, 01:40 PM
^ Pura Desh ta cholei kothar uporei. Everything depends on your reputation and whether you're in favor with those who are in more powerful positions than you.

In legal terms, maintaining an oral contract rather than a written one allows for parties to say things like: "apni to tokhon amar kotha bujhen nai...ami to eita bolechilam...apni oi ta tei raji hoyechilen" Even though oral contracts are supposed to be binding, its hard to prove either way without more concrete evidence.

mali007
October 9, 2012, 03:09 PM
Wasim Akram will be the best choice to replace Pybus.

firstlane
October 9, 2012, 07:44 PM
Inzamamul Haq will be better.

tkandi4
October 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
Don't pay him salary for a month and find out if he wants to sign the contract or not.

Ajfar
October 9, 2012, 09:23 PM
We never hired Pybus, it was more like BCB recruited him. BCB went and said Pybus we want you. If Pybus knows he has the upper than off course he will get the most out of it. That's how they always do things. Remember that whole thing with Lance Klusner. Kamal was obsessed with Klusner for some reason, they didn't even bother looking into any other candidate until Klusner turned down the offer for good. Same thing happened when we got Stuart Law. Law was SL assistant coach at the time and he wanted the head coaching job there instead of BD. So he kept BCB on hold, and off course BCB sat around waiting until finally when SL passed off on Stuart Law. Kamal and his buddies don't know jack about how to deal with people. I think people did a better job managing their Fantasy Team than the way these guys manage our cricket.

Zunaid
October 9, 2012, 09:34 PM
Pybus is not the bad guy here. Guess who is. He 'signed up' with us under certain conditions (particularly relating to authority and freedom from intervention) that wasn't in the written contract offered. The usual BCB reneging on its commitment is at fault here.

betaar
October 9, 2012, 10:32 PM
Need to professionalize BCB. Need to hire a CEO with real world experience who will be given total freedom of day to day operation without MK poking at every issue and micro managing. Sometimes better to higher a foreign sports administrator than a local one. For example one of our former CEO's the Zimbabwean Macky Dudhia was a very tough, no nonsense character. No one could mess with him. I know someone who worked at BCB who told me the guy tried to root out corruption and run BCB like a full fledged corporation. Someone like that would never allow Pybus to take advantage how he did.

Of course easier said that done. A fish rots from its head. Would our supremes ever allow the CEO to function without interfering in everything. Would they even give a damn to what a specialist would suggest.

Recently Sri Lanka has appointed former ICC CEO Haroon Lorgat as a consultant to Sri Lanka cricket. He is going to play a role in professionalizing Sri Lanka Cricket, revamping domestic cricket etc. Their chiefs here are willing to listen and develop the game.

Hiring a foreign/ professional CEO is a double edge sword for BCB and Kamal. A true CEO will not let any unconditional access of people like Kamal and others into decision making without proper protocol. Everyone has and agenda and our cricket is paying the price for it.

observer
October 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
Permit me if i may to clarify a couple of points that have been raised with out laying blame in anyone's court.

Richard Pybus and I have been working together to build a stronger system, to ensure the players in the National squad have players below them creating pressure for spots, which is what every strong national team around the world has. He has at no time ever asked me to coach the national squad. He would like me to run a High Performance program as i did previously when working under Dav.

The original schedule for the NCL had it commencing on October 14 and all players were meant to be training with their NCL teams this week, hence Richard and all other National team staff have either left for their break or are about to leave. International travel and family committments require some planning, so the constantly changing NCL schedule, should not be held against the National team staff. and With the delays in the NCL starting there have been a range of players coming to the Academy this week to train, so i have been managing facilities for them to do this and providing some coaching support if they request assistance.

Contracts always take some negotiation and negotiating is a two way street. Unfortunately the playing obligations dont wait for negotiations, so it is not uncommon for someone to actually start work here before the i's are dotted and t's crossed, it is not ideal, but it happens. Obviously there are some differences of opinion about what was agreed to and what has been presented in the contract, but lets hope they can sort it out, as Richard Pybus is a very committed and professional coach and is serious about making a difference here.

The definition of insanity is to "keep doing the same thing and expect a different result", so some aspects need to change if we want to get different results. Between the two of us we bring enough expertise and experience to understand what needs to change, and hopefully we can gain the support of the powers at be to do this and to lead BD cricket to a brighter future. The team has been ranked 9 or 10 for 10+ years now and unless there are changes, they will stay that way, regardless of who is coaching the team, as history already shows us.

Looking forward to some positive outcomes and getting focussed on improving players.

Regards
Richard :) :flag:

BANFAN
October 10, 2012, 01:33 PM
Permit me if i may to clarify a couple of points that have been raised with out laying blame in anyone's court.

Richard Pybus and I have been working together to build a stronger system, to ensure the players in the National squad have players below them creating pressure for spots, which is what every strong national team around the world has. He has at no time ever asked me to coach the national squad. He would like me to run a High Performance program as i did previously when working under Dav.

The original schedule for the NCL had it commencing on October 14 and all players were meant to be training with their NCL teams this week, hence Richard and all other National team staff have either left for their break or are about to leave. International travel and family committments require some planning, so the constantly changing NCL schedule, should not be held against the National team staff. and With the delays in the NCL starting there have been a range of players coming to the Academy this week to train, so i have been managing facilities for them to do this and providing some coaching support if they request assistance.

Contracts always take some negotiation and negotiating is a two way street. Unfortunately the playing obligations dont wait for negotiations, so it is not uncommon for someone to actually start work here before the i's are dotted and t's crossed, it is not ideal, but it happens. Obviously there are some differences of opinion about what was agreed to and what has been presented in the contract, but lets hope they can sort it out, as Richard Pybus is a very committed and professional coach and is serious about making a difference here.

The definition of insanity is to "keep doing the same thing and expect a different result", so some aspects need to change if we want to get different results. Between the two of us we bring enough expertise and experience to understand what needs to change, and hopefully we can gain the support of the powers at be to do this and to lead BD cricket to a brighter future. The team has been ranked 9 or 10 for 10+ years now and unless there are changes, they will stay that way, regardless of who is coaching the team, as history already shows us.

Looking forward to some positive outcomes and getting focussed on improving players.

Regards
Richard :) :flag:

Thanks Richard for the clarifications. Sometimes lack of communication/information forces the fans to guess and as you know it can get wild. But the good thing is that fans are worried about the team performance and have all the right reasons to get impatient seeing almost no progress at times. We do rate you all the international coaches very high and expect to see positive & visible changes. We are also aware of some of the problems that you face due to the systems and working procedures here. But still we (Fans) are confident that you know the ways to wok around those limitations to bring changes that matter. Thanks a lot for your post once again.

Good to see you here and would request you to be around in critical times, to help us out with information that matters to us. Eagerly waiting to see the HP unit getting under way soon ......:)

roman
October 10, 2012, 01:35 PM
Good to have you back Coach. And thank you for the clarification. :)

Dilscoop
October 10, 2012, 02:43 PM
Ya, don't you all look like fools now. Go hide.

Thank you coach :)

reyme
October 10, 2012, 08:40 PM
Ya, don't you all look like fools now. Go hide.

Thank you coach :)

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রিচার্ড পাইবাস কি ফিরবেন বাংলাদেশে? ফিরলে কবে? বিসিবিকে ভীষণ অনিশ্চয়তায় ডুবিয়ে জাতীয় দলের কোচ ছুটি কাটাচ্ছেন দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকায়। ৭ অক্টোবর হওয়া ক্রিকেট পরিচালনা বিভাগের সভার পর পাঠানো ই-মেইলেরও এখনো কোনো জবাব দেননি এই ইংলিশ বংশোদ্ভূত কোচ।
পাইবাস চেয়েছিলেন স্পিনারদের নিয়ে সাকলায়েন মুশতাকের ক্যাম্পটি বন্ধ করে দেওয়া হোক। কিন্তু ক্রিকেট পরিচালনা বিভাগের সভায় সেটি চালিয়ে যাওয়ার সিদ্ধান্ত হয়। ই-মেইলে পাইবাসকে জানানো হয় সেটি। ই-মেইল পেয়ে তাঁর কী প্রতিক্রিয়া, কবে ফিরবেন বাংলাদেশে, পাইবাস কাল পর্যন্ত ফিরতি কোনো ই-মেইল না পাঠানোয় বিসিবির কেউ দিতে পারছে না এসব প্রশ্নের উত্তর।
তবে বিসিবির নির্ভরযোগ্য সূত্র বলছে, পাইবাস-বিসিবি সম্পর্ক এখন ভাঙার অপেক্ষায়। পাইবাসের দাবি, বাংলাদেশ দলের দায়িত্ব নেওয়ার আগে বোর্ড সভাপতি আ হ ম মুস্তফা কামাল তাঁকে কিছু মৌখিক প্রতিশ্রুতি দিয়েছিলেন। যার মধ্যে ‘অফুরন্ত’ ছুটি-ছাটা আর বাড়তি বিমানভাড়ার বিষয়গুলোও ছিল। বোর্ড সভাপতির দেওয়া সেই প্রতিশ্রুতির বাস্তবায়ন না হলে নাকি বিসিবির চুক্তিতে সই করবেন না পাইবাস। ফিরবেন না জাতীয় দলের কোচের দায়িত্বে।
কিন্তু বিসিবি অনড় প্রস্তাবিত চুক্তিতেই। কাল কলম্বো থেকে টেলিফোনে পাইবাসের সব দাবি অস্বীকার করে মুস্তফা কামাল বলেছেন, ‘ছুটির ব্যাপারে কোচের সঙ্গে আমার কখনোই কোনো রকম আলোচনা হয়নি। উনি যে এখন ছুটি কাটাচ্ছেন সেটাও আমার কাছ থেকে নিয়ে যাননি। ছুটি সভাপতি দেয় না। চুক্তিতে ৪৫ দিন ছুটির কথা উল্লেখ আছে। তাঁকে সেটা মেনেই সই করতে হবে।’ জাতীয় দলের খেলা না থাকলে বাংলাদেশে না থাকলেও চলবে, এ রকম কোনো বিষয়েও নাকি তাঁর কথা হয়নি পাইবাসের সঙ্গে, ‘খেলা যখন থাকবে না, কোচের কাজ তো তখনই বেশি। খেলা চলাকালে কোচের কাজ কী? ওই সময় তো আমার আর তাঁর কাজ প্রায় সমান।’ পাইবাস বিসিবির প্রস্তাবিত চুক্তি না মানলে কী হবে—জানতে চাইলে সভাপতির উত্তর, ‘এ ব্যাপারে এখনই মন্তব্য করব না। তবে উনি না এলেও কেউ না কেউ তো আসবে।’ জানা গেছে, পাইবাস বিসিবির শর্ত না মানলে এশিয়ার কোনো দেশ থেকে পরবর্তী কোচ নেওয়ার চিন্তাও দানা বাঁধতে শুরু করেছে বিসিবি কর্তাদের মধ্যে। বিসিবির মিডিয়া কমিটির প্রধান জালাল ইউনুস অবশ্য এশিয়ান কোচ আনার চিন্তার ব্যাপারটি উড়িয়ে দিয়েছেন। তবে পাইবাসের প্রতি বোর্ডের মনোভাবটা বোঝা গেল তাঁর কথায়ও, ‘কোচ অন্তত আমাদের জানাক যে উনি কবে আসবেন। কোচ যদি ঈদের আগে ফিরে না আসেন, আমাদের হয়তো দ্বিতীয় চিন্তাই করতে হবে।’

MarufH
October 10, 2012, 10:42 PM
Permit me if i may to clarify a couple of points that have been raised with out laying blame in anyone's court.

Richard Pybus and I have been working together to build a stronger system, to ensure the players in the National squad have players below them creating pressure for spots, which is what every strong national team around the world has. He has at no time ever asked me to coach the national squad. He would like me to run a High Performance program as i did previously when working under Dav.

The original schedule for the NCL had it commencing on October 14 and all players were meant to be training with their NCL teams this week, hence Richard and all other National team staff have either left for their break or are about to leave. International travel and family committments require some planning, so the constantly changing NCL schedule, should not be held against the National team staff. and With the delays in the NCL starting there have been a range of players coming to the Academy this week to train, so i have been managing facilities for them to do this and providing some coaching support if they request assistance.

Contracts always take some negotiation and negotiating is a two way street. Unfortunately the playing obligations dont wait for negotiations, so it is not uncommon for someone to actually start work here before the i's are dotted and t's crossed, it is not ideal, but it happens. Obviously there are some differences of opinion about what was agreed to and what has been presented in the contract, but lets hope they can sort it out, as Richard Pybus is a very committed and professional coach and is serious about making a difference here.

The definition of insanity is to "keep doing the same thing and expect a different result", so some aspects need to change if we want to get different results. Between the two of us we bring enough expertise and experience to understand what needs to change, and hopefully we can gain the support of the powers at be to do this and to lead BD cricket to a brighter future. The team has been ranked 9 or 10 for 10+ years now and unless there are changes, they will stay that way, regardless of who is coaching the team, as history already shows us.

Looking forward to some positive outcomes and getting focussed on improving players.

Regards
Richard :) :flag:

Welcome back (to BD and BC) Richard the Boss!

Thanks for the clarification. I knew there was something fishy ever since Tutul and R. Pybus started having issues.

Having said that, if you read the Prothom-Alo article above, as the president said, coaches are most required when there are no fixtures. I disagree on many things with Mr. Kamal but he does have a solid point here. R. Pybus can always pull his 15 men aside from NCL and work with them to prepare for WI series. Also, his (R. Pybus) past issues with different cricket boards makes us the fans very worried.

Anyways - whatever happens to R. Pybus... please know that we have nothing but sheer respect and love for you as a coach and your ability. My 2 cents - keep a professional relationship with everyone (R. Pybus and BCB) and continue to make a difference.

Cheers
-Maruf

Dilscoop
October 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
Welcome back (to BD and BC) Richard the Boss!

Thanks for the clarification. I knew there was something fishy ever since Tutul and R. Pybus started having issues.

Having said that, if you read the Prothom-Alo article above, as the president said, coaches are most required when there are no fixtures. I disagree on many things with Mr. Kamal but he does have a solid point here. R. Pybus can always pull his 15 men aside from NCL and work with them to prepare for WI series. Also, his (R. Pybus) past issues with different cricket boards makes us the fans very worried.

Anyways - whatever happens to R. Pybus... please know that we have nothing but sheer respect and love for you as a coach and your ability. My 2 cents - keep a professional relationship with everyone (R. Pybus and BCB) and continue to make a difference.

Cheers
-Maruf
People need to stop bringing that up and use that against him every time something goes down, considering the fact that it happened w/ PCB - one of the worst boards out there. Not to mention PCB got him back. So that says a lot. I'll take anyone's words over Pak cricket board.

Jadukor
October 10, 2012, 11:18 PM
People need to stop bringing that up and use that against him every time something goes down, considering the fact that it happened w/ PCB - one of the worst boards out there. Not to mention PCB got him back. So that says a lot. I'll take anyone's words over Pak cricket board.

you answered yourself why fans are worried about BCB and Pybus actually

MarufH
October 10, 2012, 11:23 PM
People need to stop bringing that up and use that against him every time something goes down, considering the fact that it happened w/ PCB - one of the worst boards out there. Not to mention PCB got him back. So that says a lot. I'll take anyone's words over Pak cricket board.

I didn't specify PCB, bro. He had issues with South African domestic boards as well.

Saifulsohel
October 14, 2012, 02:03 PM
"When we initially contacted him, we assumed that Pybus could convince his family to come to Dhaka. But I think that problem hasn't yet been solved. We have to take a decision regarding his position in the upcoming meeting," said Kamal.
Pybus, who left the country lastmonth, has been criticised by BCB officials for his 'long leaves'. Kamal also referred to Richard McInnes, who is currently the head coach of the BCB Academy,as a trainer who has the potential to coach the national side.
"We have a good coach [McInnes]at home and I'll definitely bring his name up, as a possible replacement, at the board meeting," said Kamal. http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=253800

jeesh
October 14, 2012, 10:41 PM
I like that last line.

I dont know the truth behind RP. But if he isnt serious, hope we appoint RM to take over the NT in a long term role. We need someone who has passion about Bangladeshi cricket in the top job.

Gowza
October 14, 2012, 10:48 PM
RM would be a good national team coach, drawback is then the younger players who aren't in the national team may suffer in their development.

jeesh
October 14, 2012, 11:02 PM
BCB will have to find another candidate to take over academy. We should ask RM for suggestions.

With regards to local candidates Aminul Islam still remains a good option. Initially BCB's plan was to appoint him.

al-Sagar
October 14, 2012, 11:33 PM
i hate to sat but have to say now ........ bring back Jamie Siddons ....... at least he had no problems staying in Bangladesh and was satisfied with vacations, coaching setups and other issues. all others are just coming and going and have several ambitious or non-negotiable demands. anyway ...... briniging back siddons means bring back rock, junaid, imrul permanently and the personal achievement theory.....

Naimul_Hd
October 15, 2012, 01:48 AM
কিন্তু বিসিবি অনড় প্রস্তাবিত চুক্তিতেই। কাল কলম্বো থেকে টেলিফোনে পাইবাসের সব দাবি অস্বীকার করে মুস্তফা কামাল বলেছেন, ‘ছুটির ব্যাপারে কোচের সঙ্গে আমার কখনোই কোনো রকম আলোচনা হয়নি। উনি যে এখন ছুটি কাটাচ্ছেন সেটাও আমার কাছ থেকে নিয়ে যাননি। ছুটি সভাপতি দেয় না। চুক্তিতে ৪৫ দিন ছুটির কথা উল্লেখ আছে। তাঁকে সেটা মেনেই সই করতে হবে।’ জাতীয় দলের খেলা না থাকলে বাংলাদেশে না থাকলেও চলবে, এ রকম কোনো বিষয়েও নাকি তাঁর কথা হয়নি পাইবাসের সঙ্গে, ‘খেলা যখন থাকবে না, কোচের কাজ তো তখনই বেশি। খেলা চলাকালে কোচের কাজ কী? ওই সময় তো আমার আর তাঁর কাজ প্রায় সমান।’ ’

:lol:

Lotus mama o bujhe, kintu pybus bujhlo na !

Jadukor
October 15, 2012, 02:34 AM
So Pybus ki contract by pass korbo naki West Indies er kaase pedani khaoa porjonto at least thakbo?:waiting:

MohammedC
October 15, 2012, 07:02 AM
Richard McInnes will be the best coach for Bangladesh, if appointed

BANFAN
October 15, 2012, 07:22 AM
Hope he agrees to that. Wonder why he wasn't appointed before Pybus. Don't know if this will be ideal situation for RM to agree for the job. He seems to have a good relation with Pybus too.

Tiger444
October 15, 2012, 08:25 AM
i hate to sat but have to say now ........ bring back Jamie Siddons ....... at least he had no problems staying in Bangladesh and was satisfied with vacations, coaching setups and other issues. all others are just coming and going and have several ambitious or non-negotiable demands. anyway ...... briniging back siddons means bring back rock, junaid, imrul permanently and the personal achievement theory.....

Although he was popular, he also had his fair share of critics as well. There were some things I thought Jamie did that were good and bad but one thing people can't doubt here is the passion he had for our cricket. He still really cares as we saw that he helped get Tamim down to NZ. At the time, it didn't seem a bad idea that we let go of Siddons but now looking back, it seems that Siddons wasn't a bad option. Him and and his family liked living in Bangladesh so it seems that he would've stayed on. This constant changing of coaches is doing no good for our players and it's time we get a coach that will stay with us long term.

AsifTheManRahman
October 15, 2012, 08:26 AM
If the other Richard (Richie Mac I mean) is appointed and we still fail to beat Scotland, then there's no hope for us, because if he can't get it through our players' heads, it's likely no coach in the world can. It will mean that there indeed is no hope for us, that all is doom and gloom, that there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow - or any rainbow to begin with for that matter, that there is no light at the end of the tunnel, that this IS in fact the end of the tunnel, that we've hit a dead end, that we've reached the bottom of the pit, that the sun has set in the horizon.

But I have faith in McInnes, because he isn't one to reward mediocrity and has beaten up sissies into men in the past.

PS: Nazimuddin er career shesh

Dhakablues
October 15, 2012, 11:25 AM
It doesnt appear that Pybus is returning without a new contract in place. However, this wont serve his international career either. I earnestly hope that it works out because he is qualified coach and definitely was building a new Bangladesh team with future in mind..

I also think moving Mccinnes to National Coach position would do us any good. Richard is needed for the HP squad where we produce future players,,, his contribution is well documented and we need more players like Shakib, Tamim, Nafees, coming from his hand. Without such strong pipeline of players, we will become Kenya, Zimbabwe like team-- with very few international quality players. For national team, we need someone very different, someone with experience and strategy. Not that McCinnes can't do it, he sure can but his movement to a different role will more likely bring us temporary success in present at the cost of the long future..

kalpurush
October 15, 2012, 01:08 PM
Ya, don't you all look like fools now. Go hide.

Thank you coach :)
Not really!


BCB and Pybus, both are at fault here.
Going "vacation" without informing the authority doesn't represent Pybus as a professional coach. On the other hand, we all know how BCB runs, so comment here!!

reyme
October 15, 2012, 05:48 PM
McInnes said he would not say NO if offered the head coaching position (DS)...I guess there is not much communication happening anymore between RM and RP. Will Pybus come back?

BrianLara7
October 15, 2012, 05:58 PM
Pybus is not any great coach and doesn't have a great record with any international team.. why the hell can't we hire a proven international coach? Tom Moody will be amazing.. did great job with Sri lanka. Money I don't think will be a problem

BANFAN
October 15, 2012, 06:22 PM
McInnes said he would not say NO if offered the head coaching position (DS).....

That's reassuring ...

Gowza
October 15, 2012, 07:42 PM
As others have pointed out RM would do a good job as national coach but the drawback is his skill of developing quality players is lost a bit. With RM doing academy or HP unit then he's putting good habits on the players earlier and when they get to the national team they need less work so that will be lost if he becomes national coach, he then only coaches the national players.

jeesh
October 15, 2012, 10:12 PM
Pybus is not any great coach and doesn't have a great record with any international team.. why the hell can't we hire a proven international coach? Tom Moody will be amazing.. did great job with Sri lanka. Money I don't think will be a problem
Not a fair thing to say. Pybus is a very well respected coach. He might have not had much success at the international level, but he has done very well at domestic level. You should also hear the testimonials about him from some of the worlds best players.

Tom Moody is one of the best coaches in the World. Its a pity he isnt interested in a long term coaching stint. Sri Lanka tried bringing him back, not interested in long term stints. And heres the thing, a foreign coach wont mind coaching a team like Sri Lanka at less salary. The talent is there, support is there from the board, good system is in place. And most importantly living in Sri Lanka will be no culture shock for them and their families. Perhaps a reason why they got Graham Ford and we couldnt!

al-Sagar
October 15, 2012, 11:53 PM
the chance of making huge money in short time in IPL and similar leagues is making coaches reluctant to take long term national jobs.

BengaliPagol
October 16, 2012, 03:04 AM
Why is it always about the money? :(

meazz1
October 16, 2012, 08:36 AM
IPL is huge, it's killing all other formats of cricket.

Ian Pont
October 16, 2012, 10:43 AM
Richard McInnes will be the best coach for Bangladesh, if appointed

There are possibly two things that might work against RM

1. He hasn't even played first-class cricket and many boards would not entertain a coach, however worthy, with the full reins of a Test side that has not played the game to a professional level.

and then,

2. He is a terrific development coach and this means replacing him should he not do that role any more

It puts RM in a tough situation but the fact that the President is even talking about replacing RP is a worry tbh. Something must have gone very wrong.

I think RM could step up and try the role, but I am uncertain if the BCB would 'gamble' (no offence RM) in this way bearing in mind how long they took and the criteria they set in place for finding a replacement for Stuart Law.

The simplest way might be to re-contact the brilliant Mick Newell...

M.H.Rubel
October 16, 2012, 12:06 PM
Dhaka, Oct 16 (bdnews24.com) - Strengthening the rumour that Tigers' coach Richard Pybus is resigning, Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) President AHM Mustafa Kamal said Tuesday he will request him to stay until the home series against West Indies in November.
The rumour of Pybus` resignation surfaced when he did not return after Bangladesh's failure in the T20 World Cup.
Pybus, who had returned to international cricket after nine years as Bangladesh's coach in June, is spending time on leave with his family in South Africa.
http://cricket.bdnews24.com/details.php?cid=26&id=234538

MohammedC
October 16, 2012, 12:26 PM
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BANFAN
October 16, 2012, 12:26 PM
There are possibly two things that might work against RM

1. He hasn't even played first-class cricket and many boards would not entertain a coach, however worthy, with the full reins of a Test side that has not played the game to a professional level.

and then,

2. He is a terrific development coach and this means replacing him should he not do that role any more

It puts RM in a tough situation but the fact that the President is even talking about replacing RP is a worry tbh. Something must have gone very wrong.

I think RM could step up and try the role, but I am uncertain if the BCB would 'gamble' (no offence RM) in this way bearing in mind how long they took and the criteria they set in place for finding a replacement for Stuart Law.

The simplest way might be to re-contact the brilliant Mick Newell...

We have tried with so many coaches having first class or test background. I would root for RM for the reason that he hasn't played at that level, yet he has been successful with HP unit in BD... May be our boys understand his language better...!! I like to see him as the HC, he is definitely different that the rest of the coaches we had... May be we just need the kind of attitude and approach he has, or something we yet don't know, but that works for our boys....

BANFAN
October 16, 2012, 12:29 PM
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MOC bhai, I don't know what's the problem, for last few days I only see a blank post when you post a video... What's the Prob?? Is it flash only?? Even I can see the screen in flash ... But it's happening with only your posts containing video... :-/

Nadim
October 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
"The board is obviously trying to sort things out regarding Pybus and his demands. If I am offered the position of the head coach, I'll have certain conditions as well. It depends on a number of factors," said McInnes.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=253952

simon
October 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
or may be Pyboss just lost interest on BD as his pal Loot-us uncle is leaving. :p

Saifulsohel
October 16, 2012, 01:46 PM
Bangladesh national cricket team coach Richard Pybus has finally communicated with the Bangladesh Cricket Board and he is expected to arrive after Eid-ul-Azha to prepare his charges for the upcoming home series againstWest Indies, said an official on Tuesday. http://www.newagebd.com/detail.php?date=2012-10-17&nid=27280

MohammedC
October 16, 2012, 02:28 PM
MOC bhai, I don't know what's the problem, for last few days I only see a blank post when you post a video... What's the Prob?? Is it flash only?? Even I can see the screen in flash ... But it's happening with only your posts containing video... :-/

Its on Banglacricket's Facebook page. Ever since the You Tube problem in Bangladesh I have been posting news in FB. But if YouTube is back in Bangladesh then I will start to post it on YouTube.

SS
October 16, 2012, 02:38 PM
Bangladesh national cricket team coach Richard Pybus has finally communicated with the Bangladesh Cricket Board and he is expected to arrive after Eid-ul-Azha to prepare his charges for the upcoming home series againstWest Indies, said an official on Tuesday. http://www.newagebd.com/detail.php?date=2012-10-17&nid=27280

Kurbanir Eid akono 10 days ...Eid shopping starts now and players go to their families and in-laws so (counting from today 10 days will fly) tarpor player der Dhaka fera aro 2 days...tarpor condition camp aro 4 days to lose some fat.......let me count the days ..ops it's seem that our Kurbanir Eid will last 16 days as per my caclulation and the series starts within 15 days!!! Even you think I am too conservative counting those days and players changed overnight and show true world class professionalism they might come back from Eid 2 or 3 days before ......magar when they will really start the preperation...I am tired of this unprofessional work ethics of everybody in bd cricket....sometimes I wonder why I follow bd cricket...Ami ei Bhua...if you are playing such an important series especially test and if this is how plan for preperation, I have nothing else to say but sit on my butt and follow this pathetic team and overall BD cricket rest of life like a blind supporter

back to the topic...so Pybus taile ebar amogo player der moto Kurbani er Eid udjapon korben..very good very good

MarufH
October 16, 2012, 05:51 PM
Kurbanir Eid akono 10 days ...Eid shopping starts now and players go to their families and in-laws so (counting from today 10 days will fly) tarpor player der Dhaka fera aro 2 days...tarpor condition camp aro 4 days to lose some fat.......let me count the days ..ops it's seem that our Kurbanir Eid will last 16 days as per my caclulation and the series starts within 15 days!!! Even you think I am too conservative counting those days and players changed overnight and show true world class professionalism they might come back from Eid 2 or 3 days before ......magar when they will really start the preperation...I am tired of this unprofessional work ethics of everybody in bd cricket....sometimes I wonder why I follow bd cricket...Ami ei Bhua...if you are playing such an important series especially test and if this is how plan for preperation, I have nothing else to say but sit on my butt and follow this pathetic team and overall BD cricket rest of life like a blind supporter

back to the topic...so Pybus taile ebar amogo player der moto Kurbani er Eid udjapon korben..very good very good.


:up::up::up:

I totally feel your frustration and 100% agree with it.

Naimul_Hd
October 16, 2012, 06:02 PM
^^ Why do players need 'Eid Vacation' just before such an important series ? If this series was held in abroad then how would they get 'Eid Vacation' ? They can have just 1 day off, that's it. They don't deserve to get 6-7 days of Eid Masti !!

roman
October 16, 2012, 06:35 PM
^^ Why do players need 'Eid Vacation' just before such an important series ? If this series was held in abroad then how would they get 'Eid Vacation' ? They can have just 1 day off, that's it. They don't deserve to get 6-7 days of Eid Masti !!

Chakor hoise bole ki tader shaad allad nai?

MohammedC
October 16, 2012, 08:53 PM
Chakor hoise bole ki tader shaad allad nai?

:up::up::up:

Ajfar
October 16, 2012, 09:42 PM
^^ Why do players need 'Eid Vacation' just before such an important series ? If this series was held in abroad then how would they get 'Eid Vacation' ? They can have just 1 day off, that's it. They don't deserve to get 6-7 days of Eid Masti !!

I have no problem with them getting Eid Vacation. My only question is Vacation from what? Aren't they already in Vacation right now? With everything about NCL still up in the air are they all practicing/training and getting ready for the season? I doubt it.

Naimul_Hd
October 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Chakor hoise bole ki tader shaad allad nai?

Hahahaa....:lol:

Naimul_Hd
October 16, 2012, 11:04 PM
I have no problem with them getting Eid Vacation. My only question is Vacation from what? Aren't they already in Vacation right now? With everything about NCL still up in the air are they all practicing/training and getting ready for the season? I doubt it.

I also doubt it. haven't seen any news of training for NCL. BCB urfe Lotus Kamal was too busy with his appointment and now race for Next BCB President position. Can't see anyone gearing up for NCL before Eid.

BengaliPagol
October 17, 2012, 03:26 AM
Shakib can be player/coach and our problem is solved.

Crickbang
October 18, 2012, 01:19 AM
Hey Guys, I have an idea about a potential HC and he is an in-house candidate within the BCB: Richard McInnes. I mean the guy should be promoted right away and I am convinced Pybus is leaving. Pretty sure on that. Mac should have been the guy 5 yrs ago. But we are lucky he came back as BD Academy coach. Now give it to him (the HC job). Let Pybus go. I am not surprised with his hoopla and all. I mean it's in his background. Hello?

RICHARD MCINNES FOR BD HEAD COACH PLEASE! :)

Sohel
October 18, 2012, 02:38 AM
NCL has changed over the years from picnic cricket to vacation cricket.

Jadukor
October 18, 2012, 04:41 AM
We seriously need to re-think our strategy of hiring coaches. We need to find a middle ground between high profile and continuity. High profile coachs are great while they are in BD but the problem is currently none of them seem to want to stay for too long and that is bad for our cricket's development.

Just like school kids suffer if a teacher leaves half way into the course, our cricketers also would probably get confused if too many coaching philosophies are imposed on them in a short time period.

We need stability more than anything else right now on the coaching front and should look for people only if they like living in Bangladesh and working with our players over any other criterion.

jeesh
October 18, 2012, 05:41 AM
But see Whatmore and Siddons were high profile too. One was a champion coach, the other batting coach of the worlds best team (At that time).

Its IPL and T20 that has changed the total landscape. Imagine, Venkatesh Prasad asked for USD 14K per month plus a thumping bonus of $1,25,000 each year. Was he high or sth, thinking we would hire him for that kind of compensation and bonus. Even when we signed Law, he wanted a clause that would permit him to coach a T20 team.

Adding to Jadukor's point we will have to opt for a coach who is not exactly a candidate for T20 teams (Which rules out guys like Bayliss etc), and someone who wont mind living in Bangladesh, and no family issues. Its a bonus if the coach has worked in the sub continent or a developing team. Whatmore for instance probably had no culture shock in BD, nor will he in Pakistan.

If Pybus doesnt continue beyond WI, who are our options? My vote will be Richard McIness. He knows our system, knows the players. He is passionate about Bangladeshi cricket, that alone should be a key selling point. Another option (Which i am sure we will never explore) is Geoff Marsh. Veteran coach has helped Australia win World Cup 1999. Also has experience coaching Zimbabwe. His sacking as Sri Lankan coach was very unfortunate considering they didnt really do that badly.

BANFAN
October 18, 2012, 08:09 AM
But see Whatmore and Siddons were high profile too. One was a champion coach, the other batting coach of the worlds best team (At that time). ......

He was the Assistant Coach....

Apart from the concern Jadukor expressed, which I agree too, There is another good reason for which we shouldn't go for high profile coaches...I.e.

Bangladesh national team players need a level of care and assistance that's quiet different than the rest of the test playing nations. Which is very difficult to expect from the high profile coaches. So a mid level or entry level Head Coach will be much more suitable, since they are expected to go beyond their JD to improve the team's performance.

JS was never a high profile coach, his profile was raised by BCB.

jeesh
October 18, 2012, 10:13 AM
BANFAN Siddons worked with some of the finest batsmen in the World. Enough to raise his profile :)

From coaching Hayden, Ponting, Gilchrist, Clarke, Hussey to our boys.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 10:19 AM
Best thing for our players would be a coach like Duncan Fletcher, none of them will have to work hard. The so called star players like Tamim will get to do whatever they want. And the performances will continue to suck.. look at what happened to India, in addition to their inability to perform outside India, Fletcher is one of the biggest causes of failure. He is the type who like to sit down and let players run the show, no wonder Dhoni/ Sachin loves him

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 10:20 AM
BANFAN Siddons worked with some of the finest batsmen in the World. Enough to raise his profile :)

From coaching Hayden, Ponting, Gilchrist, Clarke, Hussey to our boys.

So he went from teaching Bill Gates/ Steve jobs to teaching Ashraful and Kayes.. lol

betaar
October 18, 2012, 05:55 PM
There are possibly two things that might work against RM

1. He hasn't even played first-class cricket and many boards would not entertain a coach, however worthy, with the full reins of a Test side that has not played the game to a professional level.

and then,

2. He is a terrific development coach and this means replacing him should he not do that role any more

It puts RM in a tough situation but the fact that the President is even talking about replacing RP is a worry tbh. Something must have gone very wrong.

I think RM could step up and try the role, but I am uncertain if the BCB would 'gamble' (no offence RM) in this way bearing in mind how long they took and the criteria they set in place for finding a replacement for Stuart Law.

The simplest way might be to re-contact the brilliant Mick Newell...

Ian,
Do you think the return on investment as a coach at the academy level is much higher and faster than the international level? What I mean by that is, most cricketers that come to the international stage are somewhat groomed, not an empty cup one might say. Tweaking their skills may be harder and a slowly process and improvement may not show appear overnight. Whereas, academy players are somewhat raw with an open mind that can be tweaked easily though with a lot of effort. If that's true; then success as a coach at the academy level definitely can be achieved much more easily than at the international level. With that in mind, judging RM by his previous success in Bangladesh could be a mistake. I know RM has done tremendous job in the past; with his intent to do well and his previous record, my heart says he will be a good coach but my brain says otherwise.
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Gowza
October 18, 2012, 06:39 PM
probably a positive for RM is that he's worked with a few of the current national players in their development e.g. shakib. so they already have a relationship, i'm sure a good relationship and therefore would probably be more willing to trust him and work with him.

observer
October 19, 2012, 12:17 AM
It does make interesting reading, having people assess your coaching credentials, but thanks for all of your thoughts. Just a couple of points to clarify, in my 10 years coaching professionally, i have only spent 2 of those working with academy or youth type players, and they were here in bangladesh. The remaining time has been spent working with the australian mens and womens teams, with some of the best players and coaches the game has seen. Whether that makes me a suitable option if Richard P does not continue is not fr me to say, but i would propose that i do have significant international senior coaching exerience, despite not having played first class cricket.

International coaching is not a one man show and it requires a successful team of staff with a range of skills to be successful and to provide players with the various support required. If the ability to coach was based purely in playing expertise then only the great allrounders, who also kept wicket and have a human resources or management degree would be suitably qualified.

Interesting times for BD. i still hold hope that Rich P and BCB can resolve their issues and together we can build a strong program.

Dilscoop
October 19, 2012, 12:28 AM
SMH at the members who even to this day think coaches have to be a top class international player to be a good coach.

Gowza
October 19, 2012, 12:30 AM
Sometimes coaches who haven't played professionally can be terrific, yes playing professionally can give you great insights, but you can still get great coaches who haven't played at that level.

Dilscoop
October 19, 2012, 12:40 AM
There're more crappy coaches who were pro cricketers than there're who weren't.

Great players = great coach = rickshawalla knowledge. This applies to allllll sports.

jeesh
October 19, 2012, 03:16 AM
Supporting Dilscoop's point with the example of John Buchanan in cricket and Andre Villas Boas in football.

Ian Pont
October 19, 2012, 03:25 AM
SMH at the members who even to this day think coaches have to be a top class international player to be a good coach.

Clearly a great player doesn't guarantee a great coach.

I think the point was that it is extremely rare for a non-professional cricketer (not non-international, but non-first class) to become a highly successful and respected coach.

The highest profile head coach who never played was John Buchanan. Not all agree on his personal success with the team (not the team results, as Australia were world beaters when he took over). Shane Warne had some very strong views, for example.

In most sports, Rugby, Football, Cricket, etc., the top INTERNATIONAL coaches are those who played the game to professional level at least even if they were not top internationals. In other walks of life, those who train others, usually have done that role themselves first: airline pilot trainers, barristers, etc.

It is not imperative to have done yourself, what you are teaching others, and it doesn't mean you cannot help others to be a success. It is simply extremely rare to have the highest honour as a coach when you yourself haven't experienced even the life of those you are trying to help.

I am the most open-minded coach and former player when it comes to new ideas. But a part of me feels something is missing if a head coach hasn't done it themselves - especially when everyone around them has.

There's no problem as an assistant coach, specialist coach or academy coach. But the top job at International level is different IMO.

I am happy to be wrong. I just know how players think if someone is telling them what to do who hasn't played.

Crickbang
October 19, 2012, 03:37 AM
BREAKING (THROUGH NTV NEWS): Richard Pybus has been relieved of his duties. Richard McInnes to take over in an interim basis. Just saw it now.

firstlane
October 19, 2012, 04:58 AM
hallelujah! An eventful week this was for Bangladeshis.

firstlane
October 19, 2012, 05:05 AM
I think the point was that it is extremely rare for a non-professional cricketer (not non-international, but non-first class) to become a highly successful and respected coach.

I am the most open-minded coach and former player when it comes to new ideas. But a part of me feels something is missing if a head coach hasn't done it themselves - especially when everyone around

I am happy to be wrong.

Let's just all hope Richard McInnes is one of those rare successfull ones.

Maysun
October 19, 2012, 05:08 AM
Congratulations RM. Do us proud.

zinatf
October 19, 2012, 05:09 AM
BREAKING (THROUGH NTV NEWS): Richard Pybus has been relieved of his duties. Richard McInnes to take over in an interim basis. Just saw it now.

:wow: uhoh!!
More drama....

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 05:10 AM
BREAKING (THROUGH NTV NEWS): Richard Pybus has been relieved of his duties. Richard McInnes to take over in an interim basis. Just saw it now.

Great news.... Let RM show the difference he can make.... WI series ill be a long enough series to show it in this series. Hope he accepts the temporary role though...

zinatf
October 19, 2012, 05:10 AM
Happy that it's RM though :)

Isnaad
October 19, 2012, 05:18 AM
So, I'm just wondering, has he just been "sacked"?

Rabz
October 19, 2012, 05:26 AM
Haven't seen anything on any news channel or websites yet.....

firstlane
October 19, 2012, 05:27 AM
Wasn't he made interim head coach once before?

edit: have been searching in the web for last half an hour, still no news. has anyone else watched the news?

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 06:35 AM
Wasn't he made interim head coach once before?


I think that was S. Williams... Not RM

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 06:53 AM
"I am not too confident that we can work together any longer," Kamal said. "The only time we weren't on the same page was about him bringing his family here. He couldn't convince them. He actually went to South Africa to do so this time. He wanted to go back home after every Bangladesh series but we can only let him do that one or two times."

"His kids are studying over there and I know for a fact that he has tried to convince them a few times [to move] ever since he started working here. If that doesn't happen, I don't think it can work out.

"We will decide on it at our October 18 meeting. We have already sent him a letter to come back and talk to us. But I don't think he could convince his family. We understand each other's situation.

"If he doesn't come, then also we will complete the formalities amicably. We have nothing against him and he also doesn't have any problems with us."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/587031.html

I think it's all rumor, but based on reasonable assumptions. Anyway, it will be known after today's meeting.

mufi_02
October 19, 2012, 08:42 AM
And the drama continues. By the way, I think RM will be a great head coach. He seems to know our cricketing culture very well.

Ian Pont
October 19, 2012, 09:21 AM
Let's just all hope Richard McInnes is one of those rare successfull ones.

If he gets the chance, I hope so, too.

RM is a great development coach. It would be a shame to lose him as Academy Head where he can do the most good.

Zunaid
October 19, 2012, 09:29 AM
Check the media release:



Dhaka, Friday, 19 October 2012

Media Release

Developments at Meeting of the BCB Board of Directors

The BCB Board of Directors convened for its 37th Meeting today at the SBNCS, Mirpur. The meeting was chaired by BCB President Nazmul Hassan, MP. Following are some of the notable developments:

· The BCB President and the Board officially congratulated Mr. AHM Mustafa Kamal, FCA, MP for becoming the Vice President of ICC. The Board lauded Mr. Kamal's immense contribution during his tenure as the BCB President and profusely praised his vision and ambition to drive Bangladesh cricket forward.

· The Board noted recent media reports surrounding Bangladesh Team Head Coach Richard Pybus. The Board is in constant contact with Mr. Pybus and he has been advised to start his National Team programme as early as possible.

· Walton Refrigerator have been approved as the title sponsors of the 14th National Cricket League. The Tournament will be known as Walton Refrigerator 14th National Cricket League.

A second first class tournament was approved by the Board. This will be a franchise-based event featuring the top 80 performers of the 14th NCL. There will be four teams competing. The teams will be Zonal Franchises with the country divided into four zones.

· BCB Worldwide Media Rights to M/s Virgo Media Limited for the West Indies Series was approved.

· The special committee formed by the Board to investigate alleged corrupt conduct by umpires has been advised to conduct the investigation and to report back to the Board within the next three (03) weeks. The Board also approved recommendation made by the Umpires Committee to nominate Mr. Anisur Rahman as a TV Umpire for the West Indies Series.

· The franchises of the first edition of BPL T20 have been given formal notice to clear all outstanding payments by 20th of October 2012. Issues related to non-payment will be discussed at the adjourned BCB meeting scheduled on 24th October 2012.



--- ENDS ---

Tiger Manc
October 19, 2012, 09:37 AM
Pybus told to decide Bangladesh future by Oct 24

Richard Pybus has been given time till October 24 to decide if he wants to continue as the Bangladesh coach for the forthcoming West Indies series. The Bangladesh Cricket Board has written to him, the outgoing chief Mustafa Kamal said on his last day at the board headquarters.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/587338.html

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 09:42 AM
Why doesn't BCB media release mention that date??

Zunaid
October 19, 2012, 09:48 AM
Check the media release:



Dhaka, Friday, 19 October 2012

Media Release

Developments at Meeting of the BCB Board of Directors

The BCB Board of Directors convened for its 37th Meeting today at the SBNCS, Mirpur. The meeting was chaired by BCB President Nazmul Hassan, MP. Following are some of the notable developments:

· The BCB President and the Board officially congratulated Mr. AHM Mustafa Kamal, FCA, MP for becoming the Vice President of ICC. The Board lauded Mr. Kamal's immense contribution during his tenure as the BCB President and profusely praised his vision and ambition to drive Bangladesh cricket forward.

· The Board noted recent media reports surrounding Bangladesh Team Head Coach Richard Pybus. The Board is in constant contact with Mr. Pybus and he has been advised to start his National Team programme as early as possible.

· Walton Refrigerator have been approved as the title sponsors of the 14th National Cricket League. The Tournament will be known as Walton Refrigerator 14th National Cricket League.

A second first class tournament was approved by the Board. This will be a franchise-based event featuring the top 80 performers of the 14th NCL. There will be four teams competing. The teams will be Zonal Franchises with the country divided into four zones.

· BCB Worldwide Media Rights to M/s Virgo Media Limited for the West Indies Series was approved.

· The special committee formed by the Board to investigate alleged corrupt conduct by umpires has been advised to conduct the investigation and to report back to the Board within the next three (03) weeks. The Board also approved recommendation made by the Umpires Committee to nominate Mr. Anisur Rahman as a TV Umpire for the West Indies Series.

· The franchises of the first edition of BPL T20 have been given formal notice to clear all outstanding payments by 20th of October 2012. Issues related to non-payment will be discussed at the adjourned BCB meeting scheduled on 24th October 2012.



--- ENDS ---

Zunaid
October 19, 2012, 10:06 AM
Check the media release:



Dhaka, Friday, 19 October 2012

Media Release

Developments at Meeting of the BCB Board of Directors

The BCB Board of Directors convened for its 37th Meeting today at the SBNCS, Mirpur. The meeting was chaired by BCB President Nazmul Hassan, MP. Following are some of the notable developments:

· The BCB President and the Board officially congratulated Mr. AHM Mustafa Kamal, FCA, MP for becoming the Vice President of ICC. The Board lauded Mr. Kamal's immense contribution during his tenure as the BCB President and profusely praised his vision and ambition to drive Bangladesh cricket forward.

· The Board noted recent media reports surrounding Bangladesh Team Head Coach Richard Pybus. The Board is in constant contact with Mr. Pybus and he has been advised to start his National Team programme as early as possible.

· Walton Refrigerator have been approved as the title sponsors of the 14th National Cricket League. The Tournament will be known as Walton Refrigerator 14th National Cricket League.

A second first class tournament was approved by the Board. This will be a franchise-based event featuring the top 80 performers of the 14th NCL. There will be four teams competing. The teams will be Zonal Franchises with the country divided into four zones.

· BCB Worldwide Media Rights to M/s Virgo Media Limited for the West Indies Series was approved.

· The special committee formed by the Board to investigate alleged corrupt conduct by umpires has been advised to conduct the investigation and to report back to the Board within the next three (03) weeks. The Board also approved recommendation made by the Umpires Committee to nominate Mr. Anisur Rahman as a TV Umpire for the West Indies Series.

· The franchises of the first edition of BPL T20 have been given formal notice to clear all outstanding payments by 20th of October 2012. Issues related to non-payment will be discussed at the adjourned BCB meeting scheduled on 24th October 2012.



--- ENDS ---

hoodlum
October 19, 2012, 12:02 PM
পাইবাসকে বিসিবির শেষ সুযোগ

ঢাকা: জাতীয় ক্রিকেট দলের প্রধান কোচের চাকরিটা রিচার্ড পাইবাস করবেন কি করবেন না, তা অনেকটাই নির্ভর করছে তার ওপর। বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) যতটা ছাড় দিতে রাজি আছে তাতে না পোষালে পাইবাসের হয়তো চাকরিটাই ছেড়ে দেবেন।

বাংলাদেশে কোচের চাকরির চেয়েও পাইবাসের কাছে তার পরিবার বেশি গুরুত্বপূর্ণ। সে জন্য কাজের অতিরিক্ত একটি দিনও তিনি ঢাকায় থাকেন না। এমনকি ছুটির ব্যাপারে বিসিবির নিয়মের তোয়াক্কাও করেন না। বিসিবির চাকরিটি নেওয়ার পর থেকে তিনি ইচ্ছে মতো ছুটি ভোগ করছেন। জাতীয় দলের আন্তর্জাতিক কোন কার্যক্রম না থাকলে তিনি চলে যান দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকায় পরিবারের কাছে। এখনও তিনি কেপ টাউনে আছেন। এই ভাবে বিসিবি তাকে ছুটি ভোগ করতে দিতে রাজি থাকলে তিনি চাকরি করবেন।

যদিও ছুটির ব্যাপারে বিসিবি পাইবাসকে খুব বেশি ছাড় দিতে পারবে না। জাতীয় দলের বাকি কোচিং স্টাফদের ওপর এতে নেতিবাচক প্রভাব পড়তে পারে। অন্যরাও তখন প্রধান কোচের মতো ছুটিছাঁটার বায়না ধরবেন। বিসিবি পরিচালনা পর্ষদের শুক্রবারের সভায় সে জন্য সিদ্ধান্ত হয়েছে নিয়মের ভেতরে থেকে চাকরি করতে হবে পাইবাসকে।

বিদায়ী সভাপতি আ হ ম মোস্তফা কামাল কোচের ইস্যুতে জানালেন, ‘পাইবাসকে আমরা আবারও আনুষ্ঠানিক ভাবে লিখবো তিনি যেন ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজের আগে আমাদের দেশে আসেন। তাকে আসার জন্য আমরা অনুরোধ করছি। তিনি না আসলে কি হবে পরে সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে তা জানিয়ে দেওয়া হবে।’

ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজের জন্য পাইবাসকে ঢাকায় আসতে অনুরোধ করেছে বিসিবি। তিনি এলে আলোচনা করে একটা গ্রহণযোগ্য সমাধানের চেষ্টা করবে। আগামী ২৪ অক্টোবর নতুন সভাপতি নাজমুল হাসান পাপনের সভাপতিত্বে আরেকটি সভা করবে বিসিবি। তার আগেই পাইবাসকে জানাতে হবে তিনি ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজকে সামনে রেখে ঢাকায় আসছেন কি আসছেন না। এ সময়ের মধ্যে কোচের দিক থেকে ইতিবাচক কোন উত্তর না পাওয়া গেলে বিসিবির পরবর্তী সভায় চূড়ান্ত সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে ফেলতে পারে। যদি বর্তমান কোচের পার্ট চুকিয়ে যায় তাহলে ২৪ অক্টোবরের ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের বিপক্ষে হোম সিরিজের জন্য অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন কোচ নিয়োগ দেবে বিসিবি।

পরিবারেরর জন্য পাইবাস যে বাংলাদেশের চাকরিটা করতে পারবেন না বিসিবির কর্মকর্তারা তা অনেক আগেই বুঝে গিয়েছে। মোস্তফা কামাল বিষয়টি পরিষ্কারও করলেন সংবাদ ব্রিফিংয়ে, ‘পাইবাসের সঙ্গে আমাদের কোন বিরোধ নেই। পাইবাসের বিরোধ তার পরিবারের সঙ্গে। কারণ পাইবাস তার পরিবারকে রাজি করাতে পারেনি বাংলাদেশে আসার জন্য। তিনি একটা কথা আমাদের বারবার বলেছেন তার পরিবারকে এখানে আনতে হবে। আমিও তাকে অনেকবার অনুরোধ করেছি তুমি তোমার পরিবারকে নিয়ে আস। আমার অতিথি হয়ে একবারের জন্য হলেও তাদের আসতে বলো। দুর্ভাগ্যজনকভাবে সে তাদের রাজি করাতে পারেনি। সে জন্য তিনি যেটা বলেন সেটা আমরা মানতে পারবো না। তিনি ছুটি বাড়িয়ে দিতে বলছেন। কিন্তু ছুটি বাড়িয়ে দেওয়া যাবে না। একজনের জন্য করলে অন্যদের জন্যও করতে হবে। এছাড়া আমাদের সম্পর্ক খারাপ হওয়ার কোন কারণ নেই।’

বিসিবি এক চিঠিতে পাইবাসকে অনুরোধ করেছে, কোন শর্ত ছাড়াই ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজের জন্য ঢাকায় আসতে। এখানে আসার পর আলোচনার টেবিলে বসবে। কিন্তু এতে পাইবাস রাজি নাও হতে পারেন বলে ধারণা করা হচ্ছে। বিসিবির নির্ভরযোগ্য সূত্র জানিয়েছে, ‘পাইবাস বিসিবির শর্ত মেনে ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজ করতে আসতে রাজি না। বরং তার এজেন্ট নতুন জায়গায় চাকরি খুঁজতে শুরু করে দিয়েছে।’

Source (http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=a64f770db8dc668f93db5788517d1 bc0&nttl=19102012146531)

MohammedC
October 19, 2012, 12:09 PM
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According to the newscaster RP is looking for job elsewhere.

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 12:13 PM
Check the media release:



Dhaka, Friday, 19 October 2012

Media Release

Developments at Meeting of the BCB Board of Directors


--- ENDS ---

Coming Automatically ...??

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If he is looking for jobs elsewhere, why do we even need to wait until 24?? Terminate him right now....

Maysun
October 19, 2012, 02:04 PM
Looks obvious that RP is not going to continue, after reading the CI report.

MarufH
October 19, 2012, 02:12 PM
After hearing everything, BCB is being too nice. They should just fire him. Why wait for him to leave us. I am frustrated. :facepalm:

Maysun
October 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
After hearing everything, BCB is being too nice. They should just fire him. Why wait for him to leave us. I am frustrated. :facepalm:

According to the media release from the meeting, BCB has asked him to start the National Team Programme asap.

And according to the CI report, BCB has given him till 24th October to decide his future.

:umm:

reyme
October 19, 2012, 04:10 PM
Ya, don't you all look like fools now. Go hide.

Thank you coach :)

After $100K in salary and $100K in benefits package, this is what we get!!!!

Could have built a small stadium instead :facepalm:

BrianLara7
October 19, 2012, 04:53 PM
After we get thrashed by West indies which we definitely will, most fans will be calling for the head of Mcinnes.

betaar
October 19, 2012, 05:06 PM
It does make interesting reading, having people assess your coaching credentials, but thanks for all of your thoughts. Just a couple of points to clarify, in my 10 years coaching professionally, i have only spent 2 of those working with academy or youth type players, and they were here in bangladesh. The remaining time has been spent working with the australian mens and womens teams, with some of the best players and coaches the game has seen. Whether that makes me a suitable option if Richard P does not continue is not fr me to say, but i would propose that i do have significant international senior coaching exerience, despite not having played first class cricket.

International coaching is not a one man show and it requires a successful team of staff with a range of skills to be successful and to provide players with the various support required. If the ability to coach was based purely in playing expertise then only the great allrounders, who also kept wicket and have a human resources or management degree would be suitably qualified.

Interesting times for BD. i still hold hope that Rich P and BCB can resolve their issues and together we can build a strong program.

Hi Richard,
first of congrats on taking over the national team, even if it means not permanently. I think this will do wonder for your resume as well as the BD players. If you can do your magic as you have done previously, it's a win win situation.
Anyways, I hope your message was not reactionary to my previous statement where I wanted Ian to shed some light on my assumption. I truly believe you have a proven record in Bangladesh and can be successfull with our boys. My query had more to do with how coaches can be compared based on their success rate in different levels than to criticize your credentials. In fact I have full faith in your ability and my statement over the years will prove that.
Few weeks ago there was an article in CI that mentioned that sometimes captains don't have to be born leader, some times they are situational. As long as they can assess their ability based on what situation demands, they can be successful. I have a feeling you are that man for Bangladesh. Even if you didn't play first class cricket, the fact that you have worked with Bangldesh U19 players and turned them around and your ways of coaching works for Bangladeshi players, I think you can do the same for the national team. Good luck!!!!

reyme
October 19, 2012, 05:13 PM
বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) যতটা ছাড় দিতে রাজি আছে তাতে না পোষালে পাইবাসের হয়তো চাকরিটাই ছেড়ে দেবেন।

বাংলাদেশে কোচের চাকরির চেয়েও পাইবাসের কাছে তার পরিবার বেশি গুরুত্বপূর্ণ। সে জন্য কাজের অতিরিক্ত একটি দিনও তিনি ঢাকায় থাকেন না। এমনকি ছুটির ব্যাপারে বিসিবির নিয়মের তোয়াক্কাও করেন না। বিসিবির চাকরিটি নেওয়ার পর থেকে তিনি ইচ্ছে মতো ছুটি ভোগ করছেন। জাতীয় দলের আন্তর্জাতিক কোন কার্যক্রম না থাকলে তিনি চলে যান দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকায় পরিবারের কাছে। এখনও তিনি কেপ টাউনে আছেন। এই ভাবে বিসিবি তাকে ছুটি ভোগ করতে দিতে রাজি থাকলে তিনি চাকরি করবেন।

‘পাইবাসকে আমরা আবারও আনুষ্ঠানিক ভাবে লিখবো তিনি যেন ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজের আগে আমাদের দেশে আসেন। তাকে আসার জন্য আমরা অনুরোধ করছি। বিসিবির নির্ভরযোগ্য সূত্র জানিয়েছে, ‘পাইবাস বিসিবির শর্ত মেনে ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজ করতে আসতে রাজি না। বরং তার এজেন্ট নতুন জায়গায় চাকরি খুঁজতে শুরু করে দিয়েছে।’

Source (http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=a64f770db8dc668f93db5788517d1 bc0&nttl=19102012146531)

We had been begging Pybus to be our coach from the very beginning. The man dont have his heart here, he dont care. He is not some magician, in fact his record so far with the team has been aweful. Why we continue to beg him is beyond me...

Crisis
October 19, 2012, 05:21 PM
Someone who is not committed enough should not coach us. We need to contact former coaches of the other countries.

firstlane
October 19, 2012, 05:56 PM
"If he doesn't come then we'll have to
appoint someone else. I don't think it'll be
a good idea to appoint Richard McInnes as
it will disturb the development aspect of
the BCB," Kamal said, contradicting his
earlier statement that the Australian could
be appointed on a short-term basis."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/
banglade...ry/587338.html

So RM is not becoming the head coach!

Ajfar
October 19, 2012, 06:15 PM
Aie khane abar shomoi debar ki? Freaking bunch of morons run our cricket. WI is coming to BD in 3 weeks, and we are not even sure if our coach is coming back. We are giving our coach 1 more weak to decide. You mean he didn't make up his mind by all this time now? Either he is coming or he is not. It's that simple. We have been hearing about this since the end of the T20 world cup. That's more than enough time to make up someone's mind. We need to start planning for WI as soon as possible, why are we wasting time.

Gowza
October 19, 2012, 06:42 PM
shouldn't have hired him if they wanted him to stay in BD and he couldn't give them a definite answer that he could.

Crickbang
October 19, 2012, 07:11 PM
Someone who is not committed enough should not coach us. We need to contact former coaches of the other countries.

Um, why would they wanna come to BD and leave their former countries? Don't they have family issues too? Only guy that might come back is Siddons. Then again, do we take him back after the brawl with the BCB and Siddons himself after he left. I don't have a problem with him speaking out against the BCB. They deserved the thrashing. Even Mick Newell turned us down allegedly before Pybus "confirmed" the post. But turns out we didn't really have a coach for the last 5 months anyway and we may not have one till next year.

Ajfar
October 19, 2012, 07:12 PM
^ Kamal admitted they hired him based on his statement that he thought he was going to be able to convince his family to move to BD. I'm guessing that's why Pybus never signed the contract. So I'm thinking since his family is not coming here that's why he wanted to increase his vacation days. Either whatever the reason is BCB is at fault to begin with. You don't hire a coach for the national team until both parties agreed on all terms. You don't say, 'sure we'll figure things out as you go along'.

Crickbang
October 19, 2012, 07:28 PM
BCB is trying cover up their butts right now. They are like : "Hey guys we tried to bring him back, but he said 'no'.'' We all know this is the end of the Pybus Saga. Boy was it ever a saga. Practically falling on our knees and begging him to coach even without a signed deal and now doing the same to have him come back just for one series before we start the coaching search again. Pathetic really. They need to take at least solid 2 months before making a new hire again. Don't just rush within 2-3 weeks to get a coach in the country. Sign him and him agree on all final and full terms, and have his family with him at the time of his very first training camp immediately. I think that should be in the next coach's contract.

22Yards
October 19, 2012, 08:05 PM
^ Kamal admitted they hired him based on his statement that he thought he was going to be able to convince his family to move to BD. I'm guessing that's why Pybus never signed the contract. So I'm thinking since his family is not coming here that's why he wanted to increase his vacation days. Either whatever the reason is BCB is at fault to begin with. You don't hire a coach for the national team until both parties agreed on all terms. You don't say, 'sure we'll figure things out as you go along'.
You just summarized what likely have happened. This is so unprofessional from BCB letting someone be the coach of a national team WITHOUT signing a proper contract based on an assumption that he'll be able to convince his family to move here. No wonder our team is a international minnow, our first class is termed "picnic" cricket and BPL is the worst league according to some players.

Gowza
October 19, 2012, 08:13 PM
You just summarized what likely have happened. This is so unprofessional from BCB letting someone be the coach of a national team WITHOUT signing a proper contract based on an assumption that he'll be able to convince his family to move here. No wonder our team is a international minnow, our first class is termed "picnic" cricket and BPL is the worst league according to some players.

someone should right a dot point letter to the BCB which outlines the issues within BD cricket. they need to be given a blunt assessment of the situation.

Crickbang
October 19, 2012, 09:08 PM
Mr. BCB President, let's go back to the Aussie Rule as it has not worked out between a South African coach and the BCB. Let's bring in someone from Australia this time. Let's stick to that. I was tired of Aussies before but now it looks like Aussie coaches are the best for us in terms of their passion for improvement and winning, and their dedication to what they do best. Wonder, if Tim Nielsen wants to take this gig

TigerMan
October 19, 2012, 10:09 PM
Well, like someone mentioned before in this thread, we can give Geoff Marsh a go. Or how about this, we can hire 3 head coaches at once to see if we get some positive results.

Zunaid
October 19, 2012, 10:55 PM
Well, like someone mentioned before in this thread, we can give Geoff Marsh a go. Or how about this, we can hire 3 head coaches at once to see if we get some positive results.

Why not just hire 11 head coaches and have them play instead of the national team. We will probably do better. We can hire Shakib to coach the team.

Shaun petr
October 19, 2012, 11:43 PM
i need someone like stuart law......oh man i miss him so much.....so so so much......

jeesh
October 19, 2012, 11:52 PM
Geoff Marsh will be terrific. Did a very good job at Zimbabwe apart from winning WC with Australia in 1999. And one must keep in mind Australia was not exactly a super power when he was coaching them. From what i heard.

Not sure he will be up for the task given his bitter experience in Sri Lanka.

Kohli_Sox
October 20, 2012, 12:18 AM
To be honest, it's not like Pybus is the best coach out there; so why insisting on someone who not wanting to give 100 percent commitment. WI series is starting soon and it's one of the most important series from our perspective, why are we delaying things is beyond my imagination, this is getting frustrating.

zinatf
October 20, 2012, 03:37 AM
Why not just hire 11 head coaches and have them play instead of the national team. We will probably do better. We can hire Shakib to coach the team.

:lol::notworthy:

Crickbang
October 20, 2012, 04:08 AM
I have a feeling BCB will fire ALL of the coaches except for Saqlain, and start over from zero. I mean all signs are going that way. New BCB President. Pybus is as good as gone. I read in Kaler Kontho ealier yesterday that Swift will be fired as well. He is a Computer Analyst turned Fielding Coach whom BCB never wanted to begin with, except for Law (according the KK article). No wonder, we stunk up the T20 WC with poor fielding, and it goes beyond that too. So if I am Jurgusen I am praying for my job right now. I tend to agree with this philosophy: If you are gonna let Pybus go eventually, then might as well let the others go too and start over.

MarufH
October 20, 2012, 05:09 PM
^ I dont think it would be such a bad thing. If starting over, I would make RM head coach and pick a good coaching team around him. As far as Swift and Jurgusen are concerned, they are useless in my opinion. If they are coaching and have no result to show for it (referring back to Pont/Fountain era) then they must go.

Ajfar
October 20, 2012, 06:21 PM
Even if Pybus does come back what's the guarantee he won't change his mind again if his family pushes him? It's already the end of 2012. Next 2 world cups are just over 2 years away. We can't afford to do another 5 month long coach hunt again.

BrianLara7
October 20, 2012, 08:27 PM
We need to fire all coaches and start over again, while we are at it also fire every Bcb members and the head honchos as well as every person that is related to Bangladesh cricket. Also kick all the players out of the squad except Shakib. And now start from scratch, we can't go below where we are at anyways.

Crickbang
October 21, 2012, 05:41 PM
It's over. Pybus won't be returning to BD. BCB has Sujan, Sarwar Imran, and Richard McInnes on the list for interim head coach:

ম্যাকিন্সেই ভরসা বিসিবির!

ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক
তারিখ: ২২ অক্টোবর, ২০১২
নতুন কোচ খোঁজা শুরু করেছে বিসিবি আরো আগেই। কারণ পাইবাস যে আর আসবেন না, তা এরই মধ্যে জেনেও গেছেন। মাথার ওপর ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের সাথে হোম সিরিজ। এ সিরিজের ‘যদি’ পাওয়া যায় পাইবাসকেÑ এমন একটা ধোঁয়া তুললেও এরই ফাঁকে নতুন কোচের সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে আলাপ-আলোচনা সেরে নিচ্ছে বিসিবি। গত ২০ অক্টোবরের বোর্ড সভায়ই সেটি নিশ্চিত হয়েছে বলে জানা গেছে। নতুন কোচ হিসেবে কাকে নিয়োগ দেয়া যায়, আলোচনা তা নিয়েই। হাতে রয়েছেন দু’জন। এক বিসিবির আপদকালীন স্থানীয় কোচ সরোয়ার ইমরান, অন্যজন অস্ট্রেলিয়ান রিচার্ড ম্যাকিন্স। তবে এর মধ্যে ম্যাকিন্সেই নজর বিসিবির। একে তো ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের সাথে হোম সিরিজ, তার ওপর জাতীয় দলের অনেক ক্রিকেটারই ম্যাকিন্সের হাত ধরে উঠে আসা। ২০০৩-০৫ পর্যন্ত ম্যাকিন্স বিসিবির অনূর্ধ্ব-১৯ দল থেকে শুরু করে ‘এ’ দল, হাইপারফরম্যান্স দলের দায়িত্ব পালন করেছেন। এরপর দেশে ফিরেও তিনি অস্ট্রেলিয়া মূল দলের পারফরম্যান্স অ্যানালিস্ট হিসেবে কাজ করেছেন। আবার তিনি এখন বাংলাদেশে এবং বিসিবি অ্যাকাডেমির হেড কোচ হিসেবে কর্মরত। ফলে ম্যাকিন্স এ মুহূর্তে উপযুক্ত। এত দ্রুত এ ভিন্ন উপায়ও নেই বিসিবির। অবশ্য ম্যাকিন্সের ঘোষণা দিতে যে কারণে কিছুটা গড়িমসি বিসিবির তা তার ‘আচরণ’। অস্ট্রেলীয় এ কোচ আবার নিজের কাজ ও মতের মধ্যে অন্য কারো পরামর্শ পছন্দ করেন না। বিসিবি এখানে কিছুটা দুর্বল থাকবে। ফলে কিছুটা গড়িমসি। এ ছাড়া আপদকালীন সময়ে ম্যাকিন্সের বিকল্প নেই।

অন্য দিকে সরোয়ার ইমরান পরীক্ষিত। বহুবারই তিনি জাতীয় দলের দায়িত্ব পালন করেছেন। কিন্তু কখনই তিনি স্থায়ী তো দূরে থাক, সময় ফুরালে তাকে হেড কোচের সহকারী হিসেবেও ভাবা হয় না। অথচ স্থানীয় এই কোচ যদি কোনো হেড কোচের পাশাপাশি থেকে কাজ করতেন, তা হলে এত দিন তিনিও আরো বেশি এক্সপার্ট হয়ে উঠতেন। ম্যাকিন্সে তুষ্ট না হলে সরোয়ার ইমরানও হতে পারেন দলের কোচ। খালেদ মাহমুদেরও আছে অভিজ্ঞতা। তবে এ মুহূর্তে মাহমুদকে টেনে আনা হবে কি না তাও একটা প্রশ্ন।

read the rest here
http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/new/?p=24947
Daily Naya Diganta.

firstlane
October 21, 2012, 09:26 PM
Since BCB can't keep coaches for the whole contract period, they should hire a permanent 'interim' coach!

Jadukor
October 21, 2012, 09:54 PM
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NoName
October 21, 2012, 10:05 PM
I don't get it, why did he apply for the job in the first place? Extremely unprofessional.

Crickbang
October 21, 2012, 10:10 PM
posting full articles is a violation of Forum rules... please only put portions of the article followed by a link to the source

-as mod

Ok I will do that next time. I didn't really know about it before. My mistake. I apologize.

Farhad
October 21, 2012, 10:14 PM
I really wanted to like Pybus, but this is unforgivable. The red flags in his past should have tipped me off. Incredible.

AsifTheManRahman
October 21, 2012, 10:45 PM
অবশ্য ম্যাকিন্সের ঘোষণা দিতে যে কারণে কিছুটা গড়িমসি বিসিবির তা তার ‘আচরণ’। অস্ট্রেলীয় এ কোচ আবার নিজের কাজ ও মতের মধ্যে অন্য কারো পরামর্শ পছন্দ করেন না। বিসিবি এখানে কিছুটা দুর্বল থাকবে। ফলে কিছুটা গড়িমসি। এ ছাড়া আপদকালীন সময়ে ম্যাকিন্সের বিকল্প নেই।Quadruple face palm. President er pola hoicho dekhe BCB'r President hoicho, cricket kheila to hou nai tai na? Taile ekta professional coach ke eto poramorsho dao kon mukhe? Fazlami koro?

অন্য দিকে সরোয়ার ইমরান পরীক্ষিত। Quadruple face palm. Obossho porikkhito maaney jodi bidesher parar team gular kache gonohaarey raatey/din e muli baash khawa bujhay tahole bhinno kotha.

BengaliPagol
October 22, 2012, 03:07 AM
This is just bloody fantastic. I thought the whole idea of being the coach is to help the team out but Pybus felt like strolling out of the job.

Ajfar
October 22, 2012, 05:54 AM
I don't get it, why did he apply for the job in the first place? Extremely unprofessional.

He is not at fault. People should stop blaming him and start blaming BCB. Loitta admitted that they hired him as a coach on the basis that he would convince his family, that's why he didn't sign the contract. It's not his fault that BCB him an open invitation to do whatever he wants. BCB should have made sure he signed the contract before he joined the team, that's how normal people do business.

reverse_swing
October 22, 2012, 06:19 AM
I don't get it, why did he apply for the job in the first place? Extremely unprofessional.

BCB displays a quite extreme case of unprofessionalism and poor conduct. I can't believe that someone can start a job without signed agreement. They did the same with the BPL franchise owners.

meazz1
October 22, 2012, 07:51 AM
If that was the case, BCB could have had a short-term contract with him, say six month or so. That way both parties could have been more professional in their acts.
BCB gave him a free ride and most of you are blaming Pybus for it?

zinatf
October 22, 2012, 08:02 AM
I say stick with McInnes or otherwise being in someone who's committed and please new BCB president try to make these bunch of people working for you a bit more professional...we aren't expecting sudden changes and it's 99.9% unlikely. But some changes are inevitable..

BrianLara7
October 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
Bcb is the most unprofessional garbage organization ever..

jeesh
October 22, 2012, 11:45 AM
Bcb is the most unprofessional garbage organization ever..
Then you must visit BFF:)

Navo
October 22, 2012, 11:46 AM
I'm always available to write employment contracts for the BCB :smug:

On a side note, a friend of mine has recently approached the Dhaka Gladiators for a prospective marketing deal and I, (half) jokingly, asked if he needed a lawyer. He told me, nah, I've been getting by on A Level Law (?!)

:facepalm:

kalpurush
October 22, 2012, 11:52 AM
BCB displays a quite extreme case of unprofessionalism and poor conduct. I can't believe that someone can start a job without signed agreement. They did the same with the BPL franchise owners.
+1

Blaming Pybus is invalid. As he didn't sign any contract/agreement, Pybus is free to take any vacation/days off at any time if he wish so.

Moral obligation is a different issue here though!

Dilscoop
October 22, 2012, 11:56 AM
I'm glad this happened. Now Lolita knows what it's like to break verbal promise. JF-saga anyone? Karma is a bitch.

reyme
October 22, 2012, 05:38 PM
i'm glad this happened. Now lolita knows what it's like to break verbal promise. Jf-saga anyone? Karma is a bitch.

পাইবাস না এলে শেন জার্গেনসেন

ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক | তারিখ: ২৩-১০-২০১২
গত বোর্ড সভার পর জাতীয় দলের কোচ রিচার্ড পাইবাসকে যত দ্রুত সম্ভব বাংলাদেশে ফিরে আসতে ই-মেইল পাঠিয়েছিল বিসিবি। কিন্তু পাইবাস এখনো কোনো সাড়া না দেওয়ায় বিকল্প ভাবনা শুরু হয়ে গেছে। বিশ্বস্ত সূত্রে জানা গেছে, পাইবাস না এলে বোলিং কোচ শেন জার্গেনসেনই হবেন ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সিরিজে বাংলাদেশ দলের ভারপ্রাপ্ত কোচ।
বিসিবির ভারপ্রাপ্ত প্রধান নির্বাহী কর্মকর্তা নিজামউদ্দিন চৌধুরী পাইবাসের কাছ থেকে এখনো জবাব আসেনি বলে জানিয়েছেন কাল। তবে অন্য একটি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, ছুটির ব্যাপারে বিসিবি শর্ত না মানলে বাংলাদেশে আর ফিরবেন না পাইবাস। তার পরও আগামীকালের বোর্ড সভা পর্যন্ত অপেক্ষা করবে বিসিবি। এরপর হয়তো বোর্ড সভাতেই ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের বিপক্ষে হোম সিরিজের জন্য অন্তর্বর্তী কোচ হিসেবে জার্গেনসেনের নাম ঘোষণা করা হবে। নাম প্রকাশ না করার শর্তে এক বোর্ড পরিচালক নিশ্চিত করেছেন, ‘পাইবাস না এলে জাতীয় দলের বোলিং কোচ জার্গেনসেন এই সিরিজের জন্য দায়িত্ব পাবেন। এ ব্যাপারে বোর্ডে আগেই আলোচনা হয়ে আছে।’

AsifTheManRahman
October 22, 2012, 09:15 PM
OMG, he's going to turn our batsmen into Abuls and Shafiuls now.
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Ajfar
October 22, 2012, 09:37 PM
Haire kopal. Is the world running out of coach or something? We should have hired a coach who actually wants the job to begin with.

patriot
October 22, 2012, 09:58 PM
I am not at all surprised with Pybus's decision . We all know Pybus wasnt anyways interested in coming here in the first place . In any job interview the first question most employers would ask - Why do you want to work here ? BCB/Kamal never bothered about this & must have simply given him an offer letter and pleaded/begged him to come here.

Pybus was never a 'Murinho' of cricket .He had never won the world cup , never coached a minnow team to success and the only international team he coached before us was Pakistan . It should have actually been the other way round . Pybus calling the BCB enquiring for any potential job vacancies, just like how any new graduate out of uni does.

Hope the new President offers the job to someone who actually 'WANTS' it. I am sure they can draw up a well populated list of potential coaches who want to coach us . I have no doubts the likes of Ian Pont and Mick Newell could be right there on the top of that list.

jeesh
October 22, 2012, 10:43 PM
Mick Newell backed out. Very surprisingly we were also linked to Mark Greatbatch who had a terrible time with New Zealand. Yes seems like the world is running out of coaches!

Farhad
October 23, 2012, 12:15 AM
Coaches are asked to coach without a proper contract in place all the time. As coach McInnes noted, its just the way things work out sometimes. Just yesterday, an NFL GM who was working without a contract was canned midseason. You hear about this sort of thing all the time. At the end of the day, the BCB (mistakenly) trusted Pybus to be a professional. Needless to say, he wasnt.

Do I blame both sides? Absolutely. But Pybus deserves the brunt of it.

BANFAN
October 23, 2012, 02:20 AM
I am not at all surprised with Pybus's decision . We all know Pybus wasnt anyways interested in coming here in the first place . In any job interview the first question most employers would ask - Why do you want work here ? BCB/Kamal never bothered about this & must have simply given him an offer letter and pleaded/begged him to come here.
......... .

I think Pybus asked this question to LK during interview: why do you want me to work here? :)

Ian Pont
October 23, 2012, 02:27 AM
Mick Newell backed out. Very surprisingly we were also linked to Mark Greatbatch who had a terrible time with New Zealand. Yes seems like the world is running out of coaches!

I need to correct you. Mick Newell did NOT back out. To this day, he is still waiting to hear anything from the BCB as he had no real contact with them or direct conversations.

IMO any coach working in Bangladesh has to understand what is involved. I was able to share that with Mick after working there, also Stuart Law, and Julien Fountain was able to share that with me previously so i could make the right decision.

The Head Coach of ANY national team must have a passion for the role to be a success. There is the starting point.

Jadukor
October 23, 2012, 02:39 AM
Even though we don't know the internal details but i think the issue here is 'interference'. Good coaches will want a certain level of independence and Pybus is no different. When we hire a professional coach we must acknowledge that he is the expert in the field and go along with his ideas. At the end of the day the Coach is also accountable for the team's performance so it is fair to give him a level of autonomy to make a significant impact in our cricket. I suspect just like the relationship between every other institution in BD and the government, BCB is also unwilling and afraid to let go of control to the coach and let him implement his development plan.

People still want Brian Lara as batting coach, Wasim as bowling coach etc as if great players somehow can magically turn their own talent into coaching manuals for our boys. We need to look beyond this notion of finding super star coaches and really look for coaches who are happy to live and work in a country like Bangladesh.

jeesh
October 23, 2012, 03:53 AM
I need to correct you. Mick Newell did NOT back out. To this day, he is still waiting to hear anything from the BCB as he had no real contact with them or direct conversations.

IMO any coach working in Bangladesh has to understand what is involved. I was able to share that with Mick after working there, also Stuart Law, and Julien Fountain was able to share that with me previously so i could make the right decision.

The Head Coach of ANY national team must have a passion for the role to be a success. There is the starting point.
Ian, Mick Newell was a better candidate than Pybus. In fact he was in BCB's shortlist. But there was a story which claimed he wasnt interested:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/566629.html

Ian Pont
October 23, 2012, 04:58 AM
Ian, Mick Newell was a better candidate than Pybus. In fact he was in BCB's shortlist. But there was a story which claimed he wasnt interested:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/566629.html

I stand corrected, thanks.

kalpurush
October 23, 2012, 01:47 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/587679.html
Bangladesh news
Pybus to quit as Bangladesh coach

Firdose Moonda
October 23, 2012


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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Richard Pybus (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/18647.html) has confirmed he will not return to Bangladesh to coach the national side. Pybus has been without a contract (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/586042.html) for over four months even though he was appointed at the end of May.
He claimed that the BCB leaked his contract discussions to the press after protracted negotiations and has decided not to return on those grounds. The key issues were the board reneging on the original agreement and outside interference in the running of the team.
More to follow ...

Frost
October 23, 2012, 01:49 PM
Looks like he is continuing his track record of staying for short period of time with teams he coached:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/587679.html

BANFAN
October 23, 2012, 01:50 PM
It's no more a breaking news....eta to obodharito chilo...:) good that he confirmed it...

MarufH
October 23, 2012, 01:50 PM
So... its over. sigh.... :sigh:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/587679.html

mufi_02
October 23, 2012, 01:51 PM
His Reason : He said that the BCB leaked his contract discussions to the press after protracted negotiations and has decided not to return on those grounds.

Kichui bolar nai ar.

kalpurush
October 23, 2012, 01:51 PM
BCB made a mess once again!

Why on earth you employed soneone without a contract at the first place anyway??
And why on earth BCB hired a guy who's past record shows near zero commitment to his employer/s?

I have a question to ask myself: Does Pybus has any commitment to cricket at all??

kalpurush
October 23, 2012, 02:01 PM
It's no more a breaking news....eta to obodharito chilo...:) good that he confirmed it...
Agree! Just wanted to be excited...!!;)

meazz1
October 23, 2012, 02:07 PM
That seems to be a valid reason.
"The key issues were the board reneging on the original agreement and outside interference in the running of the team".

Nadim
October 23, 2012, 02:09 PM
Good for us! Good for him.

meazz1
October 23, 2012, 02:10 PM
Yes, this act is over. I am looking forward to the next act in this dram. After all, one of the main characters in this is the BCB.

Roni_uk
October 23, 2012, 02:16 PM
Bye bye Pybus... So whos next?

Nadim
October 23, 2012, 02:22 PM
Pybus out, Jurgensen in?




Bangladesh national cricket team might see their bowling coach Shane Jurgensen take the position of head coach Richard Pybus as the latter is yet to reply to Bangladesh Cricket Board’s mail, asking him to join duty ahead of the West Indies Series.

The decision might come at BCB’s executive committee meeting, which is scheduled to be held today.

http://daily-sun.com/details_Pybus-out,-Jurgensen-in_301_1_4_1_6.html

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oh no!!!! I would rather have Kahled Mahmud Sujon than having Jugerson. God save us!!!

kalpurush
October 23, 2012, 02:22 PM
His Reason : He said that the BCB leaked his contract discussions to the press after protracted negotiations and has decided not to return on those grounds.

The above two? Or, as Mr Kamal is no longer BCB president, Pybus finds hinself friendless at BCB!?;)


Anyway, all the best to Pybus. :)

Farhad
October 23, 2012, 02:22 PM
So its done. No need to rush this. RM as interim, then depending on how that works out, a meticulous search for someone who might actually be committed to the job.

No to Jurgensen

MohammedC
October 23, 2012, 02:24 PM
Wish him all the best on his next quest. Thanks Mr By Pass.

Maysun
October 23, 2012, 02:26 PM
B'bye. What a waste of time and money!

simon
October 23, 2012, 02:27 PM
thanks for Pass-ing-By Mr.ByPass. :wave:

roman
October 23, 2012, 02:30 PM
Thank you Pybus.

It was evident that he won't return. He took the job because of Lotus. That guy was sooo in love with Pybus that he didn't even bother to practice normal custom to hire someone new. I am glad that our cricket will no longer suffer because of that inept guy

mufi_02
October 23, 2012, 02:32 PM
Ki shukher din chilo :heart:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ltrp1.jpg

roman
October 23, 2012, 02:32 PM
Pybus out, Jurgensen in?




http://daily-sun.com/details_Pybus-out,-Jurgensen-in_301_1_4_1_6.html

+++++++++++

oh no!!!! I would rather have Kahled Mahmud Sujon than having Jugerson. God save us!!!

What?? Noooooo

WI whitewash, just a matter of time now

Nadim
October 23, 2012, 02:35 PM
Ki shukher din chilo :heart:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ltrp1.jpg

LOL RIP LOITTAPYBUS bhalobasha :D

MohammedC
October 23, 2012, 02:37 PM
Ki shukher din chilo :heart:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ltrp1.jpg

Aghe ki shundor din kataitham!!!!

AsifTheManRahman
October 23, 2012, 02:57 PM
Wasn't that picture Dr. Z's creation? If so, sue @bangladeshiami's cowardly buttocks!

cricheart
October 23, 2012, 03:05 PM
Not sure if I should be happy or feel sorry for this. Can BCB ever possibly provide a long term coach for our team?!

Kamal gone to choch-o gone! e jeno AL-BNP doliokoron-er moto ghotona ghotlo!

ialbd
October 23, 2012, 03:39 PM
its just official now... everyone including our players saw it coming...

cricman
October 23, 2012, 04:46 PM
Need a taskmaster/disciplinarian as the next coach, One who'll arrange practice before dawn and end practice after dusk.

Break them mentally and than rebuild them.

Zeeshan
October 23, 2012, 04:49 PM
Ononto Jalil emergency...
hello hello
who is this..
this is 911

NoName
October 23, 2012, 05:53 PM
The bowling coach, who hasn't done much with our pacers, is going to be our head coach now? With this trend, he might leave too lol.

Damn it Siddons, undo this curse:lol:

Gowza
October 23, 2012, 05:55 PM
Siddons wasn't the best head coach but at least he stuck around to help, good batting coach though.

NoName
October 23, 2012, 05:57 PM
Its one of those moments when you realize it's worth after you have lost it.

Kana-Baba
October 23, 2012, 06:08 PM
It was bound to happen. Pybass is pure lunatic.

Zunaid
October 23, 2012, 06:12 PM
Wasn't that picture Dr. Z's creation? If so, sue @bangladeshiami's cowardly buttocks!

It's alright. I approve of this message. ;-)

See www.VirtualBangladesh.com/thoughts

Gowza
October 23, 2012, 06:16 PM
RM for head coach, pont the pacer coach, saqlain the spinner coach, Siddons the batting coach, luden the conditioning coach an de winter the academy coach. Good coaches with specific roles who have the passion for BD cricket and are willing to put in the work.

Crickbang
October 23, 2012, 06:40 PM
They need to run this next Coaching search thoroughly and professionally for at least 2-3 months before hiring a coaching, as I said in my previous post the other day (kar kache ki boli? BCB and professionalism don't go together). Don't just go all gaga on one coach that you like or love, Mr, Nazmul (the new BCB President). Go through the list of possible coaches agha se gora (thoroughly) before you find the right guy who will be passionate about winning and staying in BD for the long term. And please SIGN the guy to a CONTRACT detail by detail on FULL and FINAL terms of conditions for the job, before letting him start coaching. I personally don't blame Pybus for quitting. It's BCB's fault all the way through.

Gowza
October 23, 2012, 07:06 PM
Well BCB may have provided an out for pybus and his reasons for leaving may be because of the BCB but it was still unprofessional on pybus' part.

Naimul_Hd
October 23, 2012, 07:14 PM
Blessing in disguise ! Only thing bothers me is SJ's appointment as HC.

Ajfar
October 23, 2012, 07:14 PM
^ Denzel from Remember the Titans that's who we need.

WorldCup11
October 23, 2012, 07:19 PM
ki shukher din chilo :heart:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ltrp1.jpg

[বাংলা] তাদের এই সুখ সহ্য না করতে পেরে, কেও হয়তো তাবিজ করেছে? [/বাংলা]

Crickbang
October 23, 2012, 07:41 PM
Blessing in disguise ! Only thing bothers me is SJ's appointment as HC.

He will be there for the WI tour only (hope so) bro. Don't worry. Interim guy for now. But I want them to do what Pakistan did before getting Whatmore. Do your research on coaches thoroughly, go through the interview and take your time on making the shortlist. Go over the details on contracts point by point and make it clear to the guy before offering the job. SIGN him to the contract to seal the deal. Be patient, you will find a quality coach who wants to coach and stay in BD, eventually, that's my point.

sharup
October 23, 2012, 07:57 PM
Very good news. Time to bring someone in who is better equipped with the art of mentoring as well as coaching especially batsmen. Can Mr. Ian Pont do the head coach's job even though he is a bowling coach? He's already proved himself, to some degree, winning the inaugural BPL with Dhaka Gladiators as the head coach.

A lot of fans want him in our team even as a specialist bowling coach.

Fazal
October 23, 2012, 08:51 PM
Ki shukher din chilo :heart:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ltrp1.jpg

Lotus with Vanity Bag in one hand holding Pybus with other hand? What a odd-couple.

Zunaid
October 23, 2012, 09:34 PM
I guess my photoshopping skills are making a bunch posters in this thread looking quite dense. Perfect for the :facepalm:

Zeeshan
October 23, 2012, 09:53 PM
shetai....i wuz like oooohhhhhhhhhhhhh dudeee....and then i was like....whoaaaa!!!

Superedit: Dudes, why would anyone on their right mind possibly carry a benity bag???!! shee3hs

Naimul_Hd
October 23, 2012, 10:09 PM
Is loitta kamal retarded? Holding Pybus' hands like he is a little girl and he also has a ladies' purse..

http://byspecialrequest.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/implied-facepalm1.jpg

MarufH
October 23, 2012, 10:24 PM
Lotus with Vanity Bag in one hand holding Pybus with other hand? What a odd-couple.

never noticed the bag. As the pic itself was such a disgrace. OMG! WTF x 10!

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Zunaid
October 23, 2012, 10:30 PM
Folks, please:

http://www.virtualbangladesh.com/thoughts/?p=135

shakibrulz
October 23, 2012, 11:01 PM
BCB is seriously giving PCB a tough competition for the most unprofessional cricket board. Get your act together FFS.

zinatf
October 23, 2012, 11:31 PM
And the merry go round, goes round and I get to know about this incident from a social site from nnb amazing!

zinatf
October 23, 2012, 11:33 PM
Please get RM for the interim HC, but no SJ :eek::ohno:

Crickbang
October 24, 2012, 12:50 AM
He just chew out the BCB in his interview. Pybus' Interview with Firdous Moonda on CI:

What made you interested in the Bangladesh job at the beginning?

A sports management group brought it to my attention. They'd had an inquiry from Bangladesh, and I was told Bangladesh wanted me to put my CV forward. I did so and then I got an offer to take the job. I replied that I wouldn't take a job without meeting the administration. Although I wasn't actually looking for this job, I thought out of respect for them that I should go out to Bangladesh and hear what they had to say.

......Can you explain your current position with Bangladesh cricket?

I won't be continuing as head coach. I've been fulfilling my role in good faith, given that I haven't had a contract for nearly five months. But everybody's patience has limits and my position has been made completely untenable.


FULL INTERVIEW:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/587865.html

Crickbang
October 24, 2012, 12:59 AM
After reading the interview, I feel bad. We missed out on a great coach. STINKING BCB!!! Will it ever change?

Isnaad
October 24, 2012, 01:17 AM
And this is when one starts to think, Siddons was actually a suitable coach for us.

Gowza
October 24, 2012, 01:30 AM
they said they'd get RM as interim coach and now they're looking at SJ? why SJ? RM should get the interim coach job if not the long term head coach job.

Saifulsohel
October 24, 2012, 01:39 AM
Pybus told one portion of issue. No board allow u to do everything at ur will. U have to be patient & continuously try to persuade administratn.4 months is not long time.He had probs with every administratn.Pybus is hiding his family issue problem.He is not suitable 4 coaching in Bd. BCB gave his more facilities than any o ther coaches b4. It's sad the way he blammed BCB.

Gowza
October 24, 2012, 01:41 AM
He just chew out the BCB in his interview. Pybus' Interview with Firdous Moonda on CI:

What made you interested in the Bangladesh job at the beginning?

A sports management group brought it to my attention. They'd had an inquiry from Bangladesh, and I was told Bangladesh wanted me to put my CV forward. I did so and then I got an offer to take the job. I replied that I wouldn't take a job without meeting the administration. Although I wasn't actually looking for this job, I thought out of respect for them that I should go out to Bangladesh and hear what they had to say.

......Can you explain your current position with Bangladesh cricket?

I won't be continuing as head coach. I've been fulfilling my role in good faith, given that I haven't had a contract for nearly five months. But everybody's patience has limits and my position has been made completely untenable.


FULL INTERVIEW:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/587865.html

reveals a lot about the BCB, no wonder BD cricketing is struggling to move forward, they won't take the advice from the experts.

cricket_pagol
October 24, 2012, 01:42 AM
BCB is consistently letting us down. This sucks for us as fans :(

Gowza
October 24, 2012, 01:44 AM
Pybus told one portion of issue. No board allow u to do everything at ur will. U have to be patient & continuously try to persuade administratn.He had probs with every administratn. 4 months is not long time.Pybus is hiding his family issue problem.He is not suitable 4 coaching in Bd. BCB gave his more facilities than any o ther coaches b4. It's sad the way he blammed BCB.

he is laying it on thick and hiding the family issue but really a lot of what he said probably has a good amount of truth to it. just look at the infrastructure of BD cricket, clearly it needs improvements but the BCB never implements improvements and it's shocking to read that both pybus and RM created development and infrastructure plans which were rejected. when your system isn't working why aren't you listening to the experts?

Rabz
October 24, 2012, 01:51 AM
In the meantime, on a cold winter morning somewhere in England, Mick Newell is thinking, "Mor Jala, abar shuru hoibo ei Bangalee go khoca khuchi....."

Antora
October 24, 2012, 01:58 AM
Errr, okay...so its back to coach hunting then. I had a feeling this was about to happen -_-

Saifulsohel
October 24, 2012, 01:58 AM
he is laying it on thick and hiding the family issue but really a lot of what he said probably has a good amount of truth to it. just look at the infrastructure of BD cricket, clearly it needs improvements but the BCB never implements improvements and it's shocking to read that both pybus and RM created development and infrastructure plans which were rejected. when your system isn't working why aren't you listening to the experts?

u cant say everything reading an interview.If he is not willing to do job,as a professional coach,he could have told it formally 2 weeks b4.It's good that he left the job.He is no Buchanan or Whatmore.

Gowza
October 24, 2012, 02:22 AM
u cant say everything reading an interview.If he is not willing to do job,as a professional coach,he could have told it formally 2 weeks b4.It's good that he left the job.He is no Buchanan or Whatmore.

i agree you can't read everything just form an interview and also i believe pybus was unprofessional but so were the BCB and i still think it's shocking that RM and pybus sumbitted plans to improve the domestic infrastructure and were denied, as i said before the system isn't working everybody knows it so why not listen to the experts to work on it?

firstlane
October 24, 2012, 02:22 AM
And this is when one starts to think, Siddons was actually a suitable coach for us.

Seriously? would you be happy if a coach just stay in the job putting up with all the irregularities? No wonder we are where we are.

Shame on BCB, shame on us. Stop dreaming guys. No way in the hell we can move up the ranking with this rotten administration. It will go down as more and more nations start playing cricket, similar to what happened with our football ranking. Nothing can pull us up, not even Saber Hossain Chowdhury. Even if he tries, all the others will bring him down. You brag about having 200+ crore taka in your account but still don't want to provide a frigging sandwich to the boys. you fu**ing thieves. I just want to pee on the faces of those scumbags.

We have been so naive to blame Pybus even after knowing how corrupted BCB and PCB are. Any coach who would want to turn a blind eye and just get on with these would be here just for the money, not for the love of BD cricket. In my book Pybus will always be a man of high standard and integrity. I wish he was here so I could apologize. Sorry Sir. Sorry for dragging you down here and insulting you while you tried to help us building a better future. Sorry for lying.