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Miraz
October 17, 2012, 03:19 PM
US officials have arrested a man for plotting to detonate what he thought was a massive bomb in front of the Federal Reserve building in New York.

Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, 21, of Bangladesh, travelled to the US with the intent of planning a terrorist attack, the FBI said.

Mr Nafis was arrested after he allegedly attempted to detonate what he thought was a 1,000lb (454kg) bomb.

There was never a threat, the FBI said, as Mr Nafis had been closely watched.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19985987

Are we trying to follow the evil footsteps of our South Asian neighbours?

Miraz
October 17, 2012, 03:21 PM
You need only one or two black sheep to tarnish the image of the country.

F6_Turbo
October 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
Shabash! 6 getting arrested in London a few months ago...we know what happened with the temple burnings and now this...

Corruption might be our saving grace...

:(

F6_Turbo
October 17, 2012, 03:29 PM
Now that I'm done making the generic statement...

Only 21, what a waste of a life...

goru
October 17, 2012, 03:30 PM
Real Al-Qaeda members are going "What a nub... bought 'explosives' from undercover FBI..." :facepalm:

HereWeGo
October 17, 2012, 04:37 PM
Hope he gets the electric chair.....

Bangladesh government meantime should investigate the source of funding and arrest and punish everyone involved. Also use every possible diplomatic means to restore a positive image of bangladesh....

The damage he caused to the image of bangladesh is immense....:facepalm:

mufi_02
October 17, 2012, 04:44 PM
Despicable! Bdeshis had good reputation in NYC. This shameful act will have a huge negative effect. Its all over the local news here. Effing low life losers.

ialbd
October 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
The damage he caused to the image of bangladesh is immense....:facepalm:

only thing I wanted to say about this....

roman
October 17, 2012, 05:00 PM
What a shame. It's all over the news now here in nyc. We are slowly but surely becoming a terrorist country. This will damage our reputation here in US severely.

NoName
October 17, 2012, 06:06 PM
Putting aside the shameful act, it kind of made me chuckle how he went after a financial institution, as if the US isn't already knee deep in **** financially.

ammark
October 17, 2012, 08:47 PM
Hello Department of Homeland Security, every time you walk in and out of the US.

The US was actually giving out 5 year multiple entry visas to Bangladeshis quite normally past 2 years. Now we'll see what happens.

PoorFan
October 17, 2012, 10:27 PM
Just saw the news on Japanese TV, he had student visa as they say. Since he is 21 years old, I guess, he must have got there very recently, yet went for executing such heinous act which must have took considerable time for plan and prepare. Means what the hell he intended to study there? Was there any intention of study at all infact?

Yes, what a waste of a young life, but grave concern is the mind, the logic behind that not only justify such act but actually work for materialize! These holy crusade knights [minds] are not born and raised in 'Mars', rather just around us BD people too, which we should be well aware of.

Banglatiger84
October 17, 2012, 11:01 PM
, but grave concern is the mind, the logic behind that not only justify such act but actually work for materialize! These holy crusade knights [minds] are not born and raised in 'Mars', rather just around us BD people too, which we should be well aware of.

There are many justifications used by people who support depraved acts. Just follow the news; a 14 year old child activist is shot in Pakistan in an act drawing universal condemnation, and yet some people are trying to justify it by claiming she was being groomed by CIA etc etc

A common "logic" that may be used in such cases is "they started it when they attacked us; now it is natural there will be reaction against them"....

Rabz
October 18, 2012, 12:04 AM
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

What else you could say ???

Naimul_Hd
October 18, 2012, 12:13 AM
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নিউ ইয়র্ক, অক্টোবর ১৮ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) - নিউ ইয়র্কের ফেডারেল রিজার্ভ বোমা মেরে উড়িয়ে দেয়ার পরিকল্পনার অভিযোগে এক বাংলাদেশি যুবককে গ্রেপ্তার করেছে পুলিশ ও এফবিআই।

বুধবার যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের বিচার বিভাগের এক বিবৃতিতে বলা হয়, কাজী মোহাম্মদ রেজওয়ানুল আহসান নাফিস (২১) নামের ওই বাংলাদেশির বিরুদ্ধে ব্যাপক বিধ্বংসী অস্ত্রের ব্যবহার ও জঙ্গি সংগঠন আল কায়েদাকে সহযোগিতা করার অভিযোগ আনা হয়েছে। দোষী সাব্যস্ত হলে তার যাবজ্জীবন কারাদণ্ড হতে পারে।

এফবিআই বলছে, স্থানীয় সময় বুধবার সকালে (বাংলাদেশে বুধবার সন্ধ্যা) ম্যানহাটানে ফেডারেল রিজার্ভ ব্যাংকের সামনে ‘বিস্ফোরকভর্তি’ ভ্যান দাঁড় করিয়ে নাফিস পাশের মিলেনিয়াম হিল্টন হোটেলে যান। সেখান থেকে তিনি ভ্যানে রেখে আসা সেলফোনে বার বার কল দিতে থাকেন এক হাজার পাউন্ড (৪৫৪ কোজি) বিস্ফোরকে বিস্ফোরণ ঘটানোর জন্য।

কিন্তু ভ্যানে সত্যিকারের বিস্ফোরক না থাকায় সেটি আর ফাটেনি।

নিউ ইয়র্ক পুলিশ বলছে, নাফিস আসলে এফবিআইয়ের পাতা ফাঁদে পা দেন। তার ওপর নজর রাখা হচ্ছিল গত জুলাই থেকেই। ভ্যানটি চালিয়ে আসার সময় যে লোকটি তার পাশে ছিলেন, তিনি আসলে এফবিআইয়ের একজন কর্মকর্তা, যাকে নাফিস চিনতে পারেননি।

ব্রুকলিন ফেডারেল কোর্টে নাফিসের বিরুদ্ধে দায়ের করা মামলায় বলা হয়েছে, চলতি বছরের জানুয়ারি মাসে শিক্ষা ভিসায় যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে আসেন নাফিস। আলকায়েদা নেটওয়ার্কের সঙ্গে সংশ্লিষ্ট এই যুবক সন্ত্রাসী হামলা চালানোর জন্য বিশ্বস্ত লোক খোঁজা শুরু করার পর গত জুলাইয়ে এফবিআইয়ের নজরে পড়েন।
মামলার এজাহারে বলা হয়েছে, নাফিস এমন পরিস্থিতি সৃষ্টি করতে চেয়েছিলেন, যাতে যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের অর্থনীতি তছনছ হয়ে যায়। প্রথমে তিনি চেয়েছিলেন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের সবচেয়ে গুরুত্বপূর্ণ কোনো ব্যক্তিকে হত্যা করতে। এরপর তিনি রিজার্ভ ব্যাংক, নিউইয়র্ক স্টক এক্সচেঞ্জ ও বাল্টিমোরে সেনাবাহিনীর স্থাপনায় বোমা হামলার পরিকল্পনা করেন।

তার এ পরিকল্পনার কথা জানতে পেরে সহযোগী সেজে এফবিআই কর্মকর্তারাই তাকে ২০ ব্যাগ ‘নকল’ বিস্ফোরক সরবরাহ করেন, যাতে তাকে হাতেনাতে গ্রেপ্তার করা যায়।

ওয়াশিংটনে বাংলাদেশের রাষ্ট্রদূত আকরামুল কাদের ও জাতিসংঘে বাংলাদেশের স্থায়ী প্রতিনিধি এ কে মোমেন জানিয়েছেন, নাফিস নিউ ইয়র্কে বাংলাদেশি অধ্যুষিত জ্যামাইকায় বসবাস করতেন বলে তারা জানতে পেরেছেন। তার সম্পর্কে বিস্তারিত তথ্য উদঘাটনের চেষ্টা করছেন তারা। নাফিস ‘আসলেই বাংলাদেশি কি না’ তাও খোঁজ নিয়ে দেখা হচ্ছে।

এদিকে নাফিসের গ্রেপ্তারের ঘটনায় নতুন করে অস্বস্তিতে পড়েছেন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে বসবাসরত বাংলাদেশিরা। ২০০১ সালের ১১ সেপ্টেম্বর নিউ ইয়র্কে টুইন টাওয়ারে হামলার ঘটনায় যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের মুসলিম অধ্যুষিত এলাকাগুলোতে বাংলাদেশি-আমেরিকানদেরও নানা ধরনের ধকল পোহাতে হয়। এরপর জর্জিয়ায় দুটি সন্ত্রাসী হামলার ষড়যন্ত্রের ঘটনায় আদালতে দোষী সাব্যস্ত হয়ে কারাগারে যান এহসানুল ইসলাম সাদেকী ও মোশারফ হোসেন নামের দুই বাংলাদেশি। [/বাংলা]

Read more (http://www.bdnews24.com/bangla/details.php?cid=1&id=208272&hb=top)

Maysun
October 18, 2012, 12:30 AM
Brainwashed idiots.

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
Yeah, needs to find out where he is from, his college or university, lets here out his family and neighbour. Media needs to go deep and follow up these news to let people know how and why these minds grow up in society. It wont take long to become 'Talebanized' if BD media do not dig deep.


[বাংলা]
আকরামুল কাদের বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকমকে বলেন, “মিডিয়ায় বাংলাদেশের নাম ফলাও করে প্রচার হচ্ছে। আমরা স্টেট ডিপার্টমেন্টে যোগাযোগ করেছি গ্রেপ্তার যুবকের বাবার নাম ও বাড়ির ঠিকানা জানার জন্য। সে কোন শিক্ষা প্রতিষ্ঠানের ছাত্র ছিল তাও জানতে চাওয়া হয়েছে।”[/বাংলা]

Banglatiger84
October 18, 2012, 01:02 AM
While en route to his target, authorities say, Nafis detailed how his jihadist views were -- at least in part -- formed by watching video sermons by American-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed last year by a U.S. drone strike in Yemen.


Nafis was a student majoring in cybersecurity at Southeast Missouri State University from January to May of this year, said Ann Hayes, a spokeswoman for the university.

Antora
October 18, 2012, 01:10 AM
This is all over the local news here as well :( I feel sorry for his family, he's so young too. BD students wanting to study in USA or even in Aus/UK etc, will have fun trying to get student visas now -_-

Jadukor
October 18, 2012, 01:40 AM
Whatever is banned/hated worldwide seems to eventually find it's way to Bangladesh. Banned mosquito sprays, horse feed disguised as daal, Yaba, match fixing, extra judicial killing etc etc the list goes on and on. It's really depressing to wake up every morning and realize that everyday the bad news always outweigh the good news in our country. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if religious extremism also finds it's there much in the same way it started in Pakistan.

zinatf
October 18, 2012, 01:46 AM
This is all over the radios here today....what a waste! Just 21....

crikss
October 18, 2012, 02:02 AM
Now again Bangladesh is in the news for wrong reason

Rabz
October 18, 2012, 02:07 AM
Good luck to all the other Bangladeshi students in that university and in US in general.
Best of luck to those who just applied.

mac
October 18, 2012, 02:19 AM
He was in my school and then went to NSU after HSC. Didn't even know he went to USA. If he can be brainwashed then everyone can be a terrorist. Not sure how a person like him can change so much in just 5 years.

mac
October 18, 2012, 02:21 AM
Good luck to all the other Bangladeshi students in that university and in US in general.
Best of luck to those who just applied.

:facepalm::waiting:

Rabz
October 18, 2012, 02:28 AM
He was in my school and then went to NSU after HSC. Didn't even know he went to USA. If he can be brainwashed then everyone can be a terrorist. Not sure how a person like him can change so much in just 5 years.

If you are friends with him in FB and planning to go overseas for further degrees, it might be a good time to un-friend him for your benefit.
You never know who's digging deep.

mac
October 18, 2012, 02:30 AM
If you are friends with him in FB and planning to go overseas for further degrees, it might be a good time to un-friend him for your benefit.
You never know who's digging deep.

FB account has been deactivated. Couldn't find this morning.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 02:37 AM
I blame hizbut tahrir - I know I come across like a broken record here...but the reach these people have is unbelievable.

As I said before, my own cousin is a victim of their particular brand of brainwashing and we are struggling to pull him back from the edge.

This is a kid who aced his SSC/HSC exams and is now a chemistry student at DU.

Never mixed with any crowd let alone the 'wrong' crowd, and that was the hook. They go for the quiet, unassuming, slightly detached kids. Give them a sense of belonging and the rest is history.

There are teachers with ties to these groups in private and public universities...and the dangers are increasing.

Obviously we aren't some mental nation where people are going to start a jihad tomorrow...but we need to act now.

mac
October 18, 2012, 02:49 AM
I blame hizbut tahrir - I know I come across like a broken record here...but the reach these people have is unbelievable.

As I said before, my own cousin is a victim of their particular brand of brainwashing and we are struggling to pull him back from the edge.

This is a kid who aced his SSC/HSC exams and is now a chemistry student at DU.

Never mixed with any crowd let alone the 'wrong' crowd, and that was the hook. They go for the quiet, unassuming, slightly detached kids. Give them a sense of belonging and the rest is history.

There are teachers with ties to these groups in private and public universities...and the dangers are increasing.

Obviously we aren't some mental nation where people are going to start a jihad tomorrow...but we need to act now.

May be it's Hizbut. Heard they have strong activity in NSU. This Nafis boy has all the characteristics you've mentioned.

BengaliPagol
October 18, 2012, 03:17 AM
This is just great. Its all over the bloody news. I also hated it when the news reporter was emphasising the word 'Bangladesh' and BANGLADESHI. Why did this have to happen. One person who was stupid enough to have intentions of blowing up a bank is now sent himself to jail and also tarnished the image for Bangladeshis all around the globe.

I hope the FBI track down the guys history, his everything, to understand how he had these intentions. We need to find out how young men get these intentions and also shut them down. Terrorism needs to stop.

simon
October 18, 2012, 04:13 AM
this is terrible news for BD
What a loser idiot :facepalm:
U ruined it for your country.

cricman
October 18, 2012, 04:13 AM
The guy must have watched fight club one to many times.

Maybe he can blame it on an imaginary hallucinatory friend that told him to do it.

Jadukor
October 18, 2012, 04:30 AM
Waiting for the conspiracy theorists to blame it on CIA, Mossad, RAW etc.

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 04:45 AM
The name NSU comes up every now and then for Hizbut Tahrir, govt should take stern action, putting some security officials in campus against Hizbut activity. Arrest those teachers who are allegedly support or has connection with Hizbut Tahrir. Time to take action, protect NSU students.

mona
October 18, 2012, 05:03 AM
Not only has he tarnished our rep in terms of every ignorant Westener now thinking we're Islamic extremists, he's a dumba$$ to boot. Posting on Facebook to find fellow extremists? Great, now everyone will know us as terrorists AND retards.

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 06:05 AM
This news is surprising considering Nafeez's educational background and age, but I'm not shocked finding him as a Bangladeshi at all. There are a lot like this 'Nafeez' arrond in BD, who wont mind doing any agression against USA. Little brainwash pushing with jihaadi theories, they got easily motivated to kill any non-muslims anywhere. Secularists (especially Bangladeshi immigrants over wetern nations) are trying to hide them for long, not to paint us as terrorist nation, but the fact dont change that we aint much indifferent than Pakistan or similar extremists.

I remember when US invade Afganistan, a lot of Jihaadis from all arround the world outburst against US. Lot of them even actively joined Taliban to fight by their side against infidels & zionists. Ironically/Blessfully BD govt was allways keen in hiding these criminals and the fact finding number of how many Bangladeshies went there fight that war in the name of religion kept in hidden.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 06:29 AM
This news is surprising considering Jahid's educational background and age, but I'm not shocked finding him as a Bangladeshi at all. There are a lot like this Jahid arrond in BD, who wont mind doing any agression against USA. Little brainwash pushing with jihaadi theories, they got easily motivated to kill any non-muslims anywhere. Secularists (especially Bangladeshi immigrants over wetern nations) are trying to hide them for long, not to paint us as terrorist nation, but the fact dont change that we aint much indifferent than Pakistan or similar extremists.

I remember when US invade Afganistan, a lot of Jihaadis from all arround the world outburst against US. Lot of them even actively joined Taliban to fight by their side against infidels & zionists. Ironically/Blessfully BD govt was allways keen in hiding these criminals and the fact finding number of how many Bangladeshies went there fight that war in the name of religion kept in hidden.

His education and age are not surprising at all. The 'uneducated idiot' jihadi stereotype went away a long time ago. Look at the qualifications of some of the 9/11 bombers.

firstlane
October 18, 2012, 07:02 AM
The family of a man who allegedly plotted to blow up a weapon of mass destruction in the US said they were stunned by his arrest.

A man arrested trying to blow up the US Federal Reserve building in New York is the son of a bank manager, reports say.

Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, of Bangladesh, has been charged with trying to detonate a fake device in a vehicle parked outside the Manhattan building, home to "the world's largest accumulation of gold".

In an elaborate FBI sting, agents grabbed Nafis when he made several attempts to detonate the 1,000lb device by mobile phone.

Nafis had travelled to the US with "the purpose of conducting a terrorist attack" and actively tried to make al Qaeda contacts after his arrival, authorities said.

But the family of the 21-year-old suspect insist he had never displayed any radical tendencies and said he was a devout Muslim whose arrest had come as a shock.

His father, Quazi Mohammad Ahsanullah, said: "We're stunned. Nafis is not a radical type. He says prayers five times a day, and reads the holy Koran and Hadith every day.

"I have never seen him reading any books on jihad. We don't believe that he can have committed this... He is our pride and joy."

Nafis' extended family lives in North Jatrabari, an upper middle-class neighbourhood of southeastern Dhaka. His father is a senior vice president of National Bank and his sister is a doctor.

The bank is one of the most fortified buildings in the city
Speaking from the family home, Nafis' brother-in-law Arik said they had spoken to him only hours before his arrest and even discussed a possible bride for him.

"We heard the news this morning. Everyone is crying here," Arik told AFP. "Nafis never showed any form of radicalisation when he was in Bangladesh."

Officials at North South University in Bangladesh said Nafis had struggled during his eight terms as an electrical engineering and telecommunications student and had been effectively forced to leave after disappointing exam results.

His family said he then moved to the US where he initially took up a place at Missouri Southern State University, left after a term due to cost and took a job at a New York hotel.

Authorities insisted the alleged terror plot never posed an actual risk - but that it demonstrated the value of using sting operations to neutralise young extremists eager to harm Americans.

Before trying to carry out the plot, Nafis went to a warehouse to help assemble a 453kg (1,000lb) bomb using inert material, according to the FBI.

Court documents claim he asked an undercover agent to videotape him saying: "We will not stop until we attain victory or martyrdom."

An official complaint said Nafis contacted a confidential FBI informant in July telling him he wanted to form a terror cell.

In further conversations, authorities said Nafis proposed several spots for his attack, including the New York Stock Exchange, and that in a written letter taking responsibility for the Federal Reserve job he was about to carry out, he said he wanted to "destroy America".


http://news.sky.com/story/999312/new-york-fed-bomber-is-bank-managers-son

I am just dreading to go to work tomorrow. Its all over the news.

firstlane
October 18, 2012, 07:11 AM
Photo of that moron-
http://i.imgur.com/5dENJ.jpg

Roni_uk
October 18, 2012, 07:29 AM
What was wrong with this guy? Was he insane? or did he want to be 'famous' for the wrong reason? Guantanomo bay - here he goes!!!!

Feel sorry for his parents and ofcourse all Bangladesh students/non strudents in US.

HereWeGo
October 18, 2012, 07:43 AM
He is not insane, he is dumb and stupid and deserves harshest of punishment for conspiring to kill innocent people and destroy a countrys economy......
I hope he is shown no mercy....

HereWeGo
October 18, 2012, 08:04 AM
The family of a man who allegedly plotted to blow up a weapon of mass destruction in the US said they were stunned by his arrest.



Officials at North South University in Bangladesh said Nafis had struggled during his eight terms as an electrical engineering and telecommunications student and had been effectively forced to leave after disappointing exam results.



I really dont understand bengali parents... Just because they have the money does not mean they should send their son abroad when their child is clearly not Bright....

I feel sorry for the family that their son turned out to be a radical... But I hate the fact that this family and many others just throw away their hard earned money on their stupid kids...

BANFAN
October 18, 2012, 08:28 AM
Desher o dosher Mukh Uzzal korlo, chele.

Ei sector er Shob credit pakistanira nie jchchilo.....:)

Rubu
October 18, 2012, 08:41 AM
Damn it!

Hate it so much when someone like this bring the country's name into limelight in a bad way.

21 years is old enough to understand good from bad and if he was really up to it, should rot in hell.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 08:43 AM
I wonder is NSU is bullshitting or not...so he showed a transcript full of fails and got a student visa to the US with no probs? I get he went to a small school...but still

mufi_02
October 18, 2012, 08:54 AM
All over the news here. Federal Reserve Bank is only 10 mins away from where I work. Everyone is kinda under alert. Very bad for Bangladeshi and overall Muslim community in general here. As I said before, Bangladeshis always had good reputation in New York as hard working easy going people. Starting from taxi drivers, food vendors, city employees, accountants, doctors and businessman, Bangladesh have developed a good image over the decades. This one act is a huge blow to that image. BD Govt and Media should go very deep and find out all his associations and connections. This can't happen again.

Banglatiger84
October 18, 2012, 09:23 AM
He got influenced by Anwar Awlaki; an American Arab Shaikh who turned against the US; he was a very good speaker but very hardline and ended moving to Yemen where he was killed

Electrequiem
October 18, 2012, 09:27 AM
Wait a minute...

Is this the FBI's standard operating procedure? Find a seemingly loner-type Muslim kid and lure him into buying into fundamentalist Islamic ideologies, provide him with all the assistance necessary to plot an attack and then arrest him when he obliges? What in the proper fu*k? I hope I'm not the only one who sees something wrong with this picture...

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
Wait a minute...

Is this the FBI's standard operating procedure? Find a seemingly loner-type Muslim kid and lure him into buying into fundamentalist Islamic ideologies, provide him with all the assistance necessary to plot an attack and then arrest him when he obliges? What in the proper fu*k? I hope I'm not the only one who sees something wrong with this picture...

There is an element of entrapment here...but the key factor was this kid seeking out the contact, they then simply gave him enough rope to hang himself.

Electrequiem
October 18, 2012, 09:41 AM
There is an element of entrapment here...but the key factor was this kid seeking out the contact, they then simply gave him enough rope to hang himself.

It's bullcrap. Why couldn't FBI keep him under close watch to see if he ever did establish a legit plot? This is like leaving a bag full of money out in the streets to see who is going to try to steal it - and then arrest them. Is the kid an idiot? Sure... But his idiocy was turned to a plot by the Feds.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 09:47 AM
I thought this kind of extremism was just limited to Arabs / Pakistanis.. but then again religious extremism can corrupt anyone. "With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion" Steven Weinberg

HereWeGo
October 18, 2012, 09:48 AM
It's bullcrap. Why couldn't FBI keep him under close watch to see if he ever did establish a legit plot? This is like leaving a bag full of money out in the streets to see who is going to try to steal it - and then arrest them. Is the kid an idiot? Sure... But his idiocy was turned to a plot by the Feds.

The justice system needs proof to put someone away for a long time. He is definately a danger to the society because of his ideology and his eagerness to use him as a suicide bomber if need be. Sure this was an entrapment but it was necessary as there are cases in the past of terrorist going under the radar. Also it cost tax payers money to keep an eye on individual like this 24/7....

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 09:51 AM
There is an element of entrapment here...but the key factor was this kid seeking out the contact, they then simply gave him enough rope to hang himself.

I guess this is legal and well supported in USA to trap someone for intended terrorist activity as long as they are Muslim jihadi suspects. So, FBI doing great job here to keep the homeland safe.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 09:52 AM
Why all these extremist idiots always fall for the hate preaching morons? Why can't they listen to the more moderate "scholar''? Even though I am not religious but the world would be a far better place if muslims were actually following the likes of Hamza yusuf or Nouman Ali khan (I have met both these ppl) instead of ridiculous clerics like Anwar Awlaki who was also brainwashed towards the end of his life.

mufi_02
October 18, 2012, 09:53 AM
Why all these extremist idiots always fall for the hate preaching morons? Why can't they listen to the more moderate "scholar''? Even though I am not religious but the world would be a far better place if muslims were actually following the likes of Hamza yusuf or Nouman Ali khan (I have met both these ppl) instead of ridiculous clerics like Anwar Awlaki who was also brainwashed towards the end of his life.

Agree :up::up:

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 09:53 AM
I guess this is legal and well supported in USA to trap someone for intended terrorist activity as long as they are Muslim jihadi suspects. So, FBI doing great job here to keep the homeland safe.

Tbf the FBI has history of this...they've busted white supremacists in this manner before.

BANFAN
October 18, 2012, 09:54 AM
Wait a minute...

Is this the FBI's standard operating procedure? Find a seemingly loner-type Muslim kid and lure him into buying into fundamentalist Islamic ideologies, provide him with all the assistance necessary to plot an attack and then arrest him when he obliges? What in the proper fu*k? I hope I'm not the only one who sees something wrong with this picture...

Perfectly pointed out.....looks to flawed procedure to me.

If you go by this way, you can lure almost every (99%) human being into some kind of crime...I don't think that should be way, law enforcement works...you can use baits to catch established criminals, but not to lure a first timer into it...

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 09:56 AM
Wait a minute...

Is this the FBI's standard operating procedure? Find a seemingly loner-type Muslim kid and lure him into buying into fundamentalist Islamic ideologies, provide him with all the assistance necessary to plot an attack and then arrest him when he obliges? What in the proper fu*k? I hope I'm not the only one who sees something wrong with this picture...

That's actually bullshit.... need to change. But I guess it's more likely that ppl who have already been brainwashed and are committed about doing terrorist activities are the ones they are "aiding".

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 09:57 AM
A much more common occurrence of this is...undercover female officers walking around in red light districts and bars...egging guys on, going back to hotel rooms and busting the perps once money has exchanged hands.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 10:00 AM
A much more common occurrence of this is...undercover female officers walking around in red light districts and bars...egging guys on, going back to hotel rooms and busting the perps once money has exchanged hands.

Any personal experiences? :D

HereWeGo
October 18, 2012, 10:08 AM
If you wait till he gets hold of actual explosive than u put peoples lives at risk...

Nuclear proliferation by AQ Khan was only possible because of this wait and watch policy....

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 10:13 AM
Any personal experiences? :D

Nothing but...it was a gay bar to boot. Got away with diplomatic immunity :)

roman
October 18, 2012, 10:19 AM
All over the news here. Federal Reserve Bank is only 10 mins away from where I work. Everyone is kinda under alert. Very bad for Bangladeshi and overall Muslim community in general here. As I said before, Bangladeshis always had good reputation in New York as hard working easy going people. Starting from taxi drivers, food vendors, city employees, accountants, doctors and businessman, Bangladesh have developed a good image over the decades. This one act is a huge blow to that image. BD Govt and Media should go very deep and find out all his associations and connections. This can't happen again.

This has damaged our image and that's really bothering me. I know how hard some Bangladeshi families over here work, how much they struggle just to survive. Over the years they have built a reputation of hardworking, peace loving community. This is indeed a huge blow for us. We all have to face the consequences for this man's stupidity..

mufi_02
October 18, 2012, 10:35 AM
This has damaged our image and that's really bothering me. I know how hard some Bangladeshi families over here work, how much they struggle just to survive. Over the years they have built a reputation of hardworking, peace loving community. This is indeed a huge blow for us. We all have to face the consequences for this man's stupidity..

Yeah agree. But NY is home to more than 50k (my assupmtion is 70k) Bengalis. From colleges like BMCC, La Guardia, and other CUNYs, to Jackson Heigths to Jamaica, Astoria, Parkchester, Ozone Park, Brooklyn, everywhere there is a huge presence of us. Heck, I even think Jackson Heights is home to every single 'shomiti' from every single district and subset too e.g. Dokkhin Comilla, Uttor Komilla etc..

Now, its up to rest of us to continue the good work and contribute to the welfare of the city and society we live in. We all have to act in good will and speak out against this horrible act and at the same time makes sure this never happens again. One thing to note is that this kid is not a New Yorker rather had his brainwash in Dhaka. Can't blame the NY Bengali community for that.

Bonglababu
October 18, 2012, 10:49 AM
who the **** is this fellow? I can't believe someone from Dhaka could dare such a dangerous plot.

desher man ijjot pura maira dilo.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 10:59 AM
He's from upper middle class Jatrabari :smug:

BANFAN
October 18, 2012, 11:05 AM
He's from upper middle class Jatrabari :smug:

Near to 'Shonir Akhra' ...:) ??

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 11:16 AM
18 October 2012 Last updated at 15:16 GMT



Suspect's father says New York bomb plot charge 'false'

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63567000/jpg/_63567158_63568424.jpg Quazi Nafis' father believes his son is innocent
Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19994503#story_continues_1) Related Stories


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The father of a Bangladeshi man accused of plotting an attack at the New York Federal Reserve has told the BBC the allegations are "totally false".

Speaking from his home in Bangladesh, Quazi Mohammad Ahsanullah said his son was "totally innocent".

Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, 21, was arrested after he allegedly attempted to detonate what he thought was a 1,000lb (454kg) bomb.

There was no public threat, officials said, as he had been closely watched.
Mr Nafis arrived in the US on a student visa in January, purporting to be studying in Missouri, authorities said.

'Victimised'

He was charged on Wednesday with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and plotting to provide material support to al-Qaeda.
Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19994503#story_continues_2)
I am now requesting the Bangladeshi government to bring my innocent son back to the country”
Speaking to the BBC's Anbarasan Ethirajan in Bangladeshi capital Dhaka, the suspect's father said he had been told about his son's arrest earlier on Thursday.

"He is completely innocent. He went to the United States only to study. Not to do any kind of activity. He is my only son," Mr Ahsanullah said, adding that Mr Nafis was very shy.

Breaking down repeatedly as he spoke to our correspondent, Mr Ahsanullah said his son had spoken to his mother almost every day over Skype.

"I am 100% sure that he had no contact with anybody. He has been victimised.

"I haven't had any contact with my son since yesterday. I am trying to contact. I don't know how to do it. I am now requesting the Bangladeshi government to bring my innocent son back to the country."


More in BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19994503)

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 11:23 AM
^Well you wouldn't expect him to say anything different. I feel for him, you can;t blame the parents for this...this really isn't about bad parenting or not being watchful.

But his appeal to the government is completely misplaced and useless. I don't prescribe to the theory that the american justice system is near on perfect(the innocence project and the scary number of innocents wrongly executed are proof enough) not to mention the way the authorities have gone about things since 9/11, but his son IS NOT INNOCENT.

He might be a simpleton, he might be easily manipulated and he is obvious a massive douchebag, but he isn't innocent.

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 11:30 AM
Not sure what does his father mean by 'totally innocent', 'had no contact with anybody', as well as 'victimised'. To me as it seems he meant everything just short of saying all are made up, isnt it? Rather, I think his father should immidiately go to US embassy in Dhaka and talk to them whaever he knows about his son and his company. Keeping in touch with US embassy would rather be helful for his son I guess.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 11:34 AM
Not sure what does his father mean by 'totally innocent', 'had no contact with anybody', as well as 'victimised'. To me as it seems he meant everything just short of saying all are made up, isnt it?

oi je bollam naa....that's a grief stricken father, who is in denial. Completely natural. It'll slowly dawn on him, we're all worried about the big picture, and perceptions, think about that family :(

Sister is a doctor, father with a successful career...you send your son to study in America, and he is now known around the world as a terrorist.

dash
October 18, 2012, 11:38 AM
feel for the family but not for the idiot....there is no place for him in our society...

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 11:48 AM
oi je bollam naa....that's a grief stricken father, who is in denial. Completely natural. It'll slowly dawn on him, we're all worried about the big picture, and perceptions, think about that family :(

Sister is a doctor, father with a successful career...you send your son to study in America, and he is now known around the world as a terrorist.
Actually I wrote that post before I saw yours :), and yes I agree with you and understand your point. It must be unbearable for the parents.

AsifTheManRahman
October 18, 2012, 11:49 AM
Not surprised. As I've mentioned on a different thread, I prescribe to the daal-bhaat theory - we do have extremists amongst Bangladeshis, but give them their afternoon rice and they'll go to sleep and not bother. Burning US flags, flooding the streets with banners in support of Osama on Friday afternoons are all pre-rice eating activities. Most of these extremists are all hype and no action, especially when rice hits tummy and eye lids shut.

But of course, as the converse of the law of averages would suggest, out of all the lazy nap-loving extremists, there will always be one or two who will break the shackles of the bhaat-effect and actually make an attempt to act.

Anyways, send this idiotic douche to Guantanamo and let the other inmates take care of him. What a sore loser.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 11:54 AM
Don't take this "victim" thing seriously. Haven't yet met family member of one criminal who didn't think their child was victimized and was innocent. The idiot should pay for what he did/ was doing.. and LOL at asking BD government to bring him back. He is IN the US and caught as a potential bomber.. BD government can't do jackshit even if they wanted to (which I dont think they will be foolish enough to even try)

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 11:59 AM
Any Muslim can be a terrorist, no matter what country you are from. This is just a bad opinion against Muslims, growing among common Americans.

PoorFan
October 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Any Muslim can be a terrorist, no matter what country you are from. This is just a bad opinion against Muslims, growing among common Americans.
Do you have any source for that?

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 12:11 PM
Do you have any source for that?

I think his source is the same as "Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslim"

kalpurush
October 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
Whatever is banned/hated worldwide seems to eventually find it's way to Bangladesh. Banned mosquito sprays, horse feed disguised as daal, Yaba, match fixing, extra judicial killing etc etc the list goes on and on. It's really depressing to wake up every morning and realize that everyday the bad news always outweigh the good news in our country. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if religious extremism also finds it's there much in the same way it started in Pakistan.
The root cause is poverty, lack of education, unfair distribution of wealth etc.

Unless we find a visionary leader for our country, I don't see any bright future ahead of us.

With "desh-netri er jatir konna" what else you expect??

patriot
October 18, 2012, 12:15 PM
Feel very sorry for the family . I hope the government get some good investigation into this to find out who those crooks were who brainwashed this dude. I am sure these douche-bags at this very moment are brainwashing another kid.

kalpurush
October 18, 2012, 12:15 PM
Any Muslim can be a terrorist, no matter what country you are from. This is just a bad opinion against Muslims, growing among common Americans.
But but Nafis is a Muslim and from Bangladesh! How could you deny that??

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 12:18 PM
Do you have any source for that?

I think his source is the same as "Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslim"

yep no source, just opinion of suspicion. Aint those obvious messages spreading there in US, with this incident!

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 12:24 PM
But but Nafis is a Muslim and from Bangladesh! How could you deny that??

I aint denying he being Bangladeshi, but this incident dont just color us but all Muslims in broad.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 12:24 PM
The root cause is poverty, lack of education, unfair distribution of wealth etc.

Unless we find a visionary leader for our country, I don't see any bright future ahead of us.

With "desh-netri er jatir konna" what else you expect??

lol, It's strange how the whole country is basically ruled by two families who take it as their God given right to do whatever they pleased to it.

BrianLara7
October 18, 2012, 12:27 PM
I aint denying he being Bangladeshi, but this incident dont just color us but all Muslims in broad.

Please stop making assumptions that have no real basis in reality and no facts to support them.

cricheart
October 18, 2012, 12:28 PM
Please stop making assumptions that have no real basis in reality and no facts to support them.

Dude, This aint just assumption. Its a concern.

Ajfar
October 18, 2012, 03:27 PM
To be honest I see nothing wrong with how FBI conducted this case. Assuming he tried to establish contact with people to take on a suicide mission. Had FBI caught him right there, they would have came under scrunity from all over the place for not having enough proof. If whatever is being said in the media about what he said in a recorded video that means he went out there thinking he was taking out a real suicide mission. What if instead of an FBI contact he managed to find a nutcase like him and really did take out the attack. They kept him busy with dummy explosives and caught him in the act. Its not like they put the idea of a suicide mission in his head, he had this idea all along, at least thats what it seems like reading all the articles.

Zeeshan
October 18, 2012, 07:00 PM
Electrequiem has a point. Have we really arrived at an Orwellian state dominated by Domitionist led ultra conservative haterzoids that we cannot even voice out our skepticism towards CIA, FBI and the likes without them reading THESE VERY MESSAGES and making us suffer for it?

Do remember how corruption exists even in highest tiers but we cannot live in a fear either.

I will not put forward my opinion towards this issue but I despise the fact that we are currently in an age where CIA could just 'black suv' us with hired assassins lest we even hint that they are conspiring something.

And also let us not forget the despicable military p-p incident abusing Muslims in Gitmo. Truth of the matter is HATRED exists there are some extremely partial party who have the power to do, stage, fake and cover up anything.

Edit: This also brings up racial profiling which I am strictly against. But, why should we even discuss about racial profiling? Pardon the stretch but that's like debating cannibalism.

Ajfar
October 18, 2012, 09:59 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/18/article-2219551-15901B67000005DC-242_634x423.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219551/New-York-terror-plot-Quazi-Nafis-attempted-blow-Federal-Reserve-Bank-New-York-1-000-pound-bomb.html

I feel really bad for his family. Spent everything they could to send him here thinking he was going to make something out of himself. Chances are they will never see him again. The area he was living in is packed with Bangladeshi people. So far every neighbor's TV reporters have interviewed that I saw are bangali. This kid really screwed up our image in NYC. NYC is probably one of few places in USA if you tell random people in the street you are from Bangladesh they will know what you are talking about.

CricketPagolChele
October 18, 2012, 10:37 PM
Don't take this "victim" thing seriously. Haven't yet met family member of one criminal who didn't think their child was victimized and was innocent. The idiot should pay for what he did/ was doing.. and LOL at asking BD government to bring him back. He is IN the US and caught as a potential bomber.. BD government can't do jackshit even if they wanted to (which I dont think they will be foolish enough to even try)

Mr. BL,
loling at father's statement shows what kind of person you are. how could you make fun of a father who just get into terrible mess? are you human? did you try to understand a father's heart? to a father a child is always innocent no matter what his child did. but you had to lol at that? don't know what kind of family you came from, but sure it shows ur true class. let the US justice system decide if he is guilty or not, don't make ur self a judge. I have 100% trust on US justice system.

F6_Turbo
October 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
# first number 1 corrupted country
Not tolerant about other religion. Attack against budhdhist and hindus
Maximum number of road accident and people killed in transportation accident
No ethical values: mixing poison/ formal de hyde in every food possible

We didnt even spare our only nobel winner to humiliate.

With the cost of Name change of airport and others, we could make 2 padma setu
Increase number of kidney failure and heart disease pt in recent years due to poisonous food consumption
Half of year bd closed down due to strike/ hartal
Kidnapped and disappearance and murder and no justice
Match fixing, umpire scandal
Final addition: terrorism
One and only country students used for political party's interest
Maximum number of drug user in last few years


Hard to find positive about bangladesh in recent days.

Only positive thing is shakib al hasan. Nothing else. Sad but true
Talk about taking things out of context and doom mongering!

OMG OMG OMG!!!

EDIT: oh and outright lies! The govt deserves to be torn apart for the bridge debacle, but no need to make up ****.

Padma bridge is going to cost $3bil - the biggest infrastructure project in our history. $1bil is equal to ~8200 crore taka, so 24000crore to build the bridge. According to your lie it cost how much money to change names at the airport???

Was this lie one of those Facebook messages that gets passed around by the retards or something some 'expert' offered up as fact.

CricketPagolChele
October 18, 2012, 10:57 PM
Don't take this "victim" thing seriously. Haven't yet met family member of one criminal who didn't think their child was victimized and was innocent. The idiot should pay for what he did/ was doing.. and LOL at asking BD government to bring him back. He is IN the US and caught as a potential bomber.. BD government can't do jackshit even if they wanted to (which I dont think they will be foolish enough to even try)

Mr. BL,
loling at father's statement shows what kind of person you are. how could you make fun of a father how just get into terrible mess? are you human? did you try to understand a father's heart? to a father a child is always innocent no matter what his child did. but you had to lol at that? don't know what kind of family you came from, but sure it shows ur true class.

Banglatiger84
October 19, 2012, 01:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219551/New-York-terror-plot-Quazi-Nafis-attempted-blow-Federal-Reserve-Bank-New-York-1-000-pound-bomb.html

I feel really bad for his family. Spent everything they could to send him here thinking he was going to make something out of himself. Chances are they will never see him again. t.


You said it. Average upper-middle class family who thought their son would graduate after having a hard time in NSU. They must be devastated, and i am sure they never saw it coming.
What has happened is as you said, he will be alive but they know it will be hard for them to see him again. Only those who have gone through this knows what it means;
The pictures of the dad and mom are heartbreaking; and worse are the self-righteous comments mocking them

May Allah help them in this tough time.

Zeeshan
October 19, 2012, 01:54 AM
The pictures of the dad and mom are heartbreaking; and worse are the self-righteous comments mocking them

May Allah help them in this tough time.

Amen bro.

crikss
October 19, 2012, 03:36 AM
Very sad time for parents :(

firstlane
October 19, 2012, 04:46 AM
Bombing suspect lived quietly in Jamaica

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/bombing-suspect-lived-quietly-in-jamaica-1.4127327


Officials: Magazine influenced Nafis' plot

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/officials-magazine-influenced-nafis-plot-1.4127325

F6_Turbo
October 19, 2012, 04:50 AM
He might have had the seeds of extremism sowed in Bangladesh, but there is no doubt his final transformation took place in the US.

Internet videos and sermons from AQ leaders and preachers...

Navo
October 19, 2012, 05:32 AM
# first number 1 corrupted country
Not tolerant about other religion. Attack against budhdhist and hindus
Maximum number of road accident and people killed in transportation accident
No ethical values: mixing poison/ formal de hyde in every food possible

We didnt even spare our only nobel winner to humiliate.

With the cost of Name change of airport and others, we could make 2 padma setu
Increase number of kidney failure and heart disease pt in recent years due to poisonous food consumption
Half of year bd closed down due to strike/ hartal
Kidnapped and disappearance and murder and no justice
Match fixing, umpire scandal
Final addition: terrorism
One and only country students used for political party's interest
Maximum number of drug user in last few years


Hard to find positive about bangladesh in recent days.

Only positive thing is shakib al hasan. Nothing else. Sad but true

:facepalm: How long have you been in Hawaii bhai?

1. If you believe that we are religious bigots just due to the Ramu calamity, then you're no better than those who say that all Muslims are terrorists just because of 9/11

2. If our only Nobel Laureate has committed acts that are against the law of Bangladesh, then his Scandinavian prize doesn't exempt him from punishment. Even someone who theoretically had immunity due to his position, President Ershad, had to do time after he was deposed due to his illegal actions during his tenure.

3. I have no idea where you got the figure for the cost of changing the name of the airport. Even if you disagree with the name change and/or love President Zia, I don't know how this is considered a failure of the State.

4. I've been back in Bangladesh for a while now and I can count on one hand how many days we've had hartals.

I don't know whether it is a kind of glum satisfaction people get from deriding their country or if they're just a tiny bit self-loathing, but it honestly is not all doom and gloom.

Matribhasha
October 19, 2012, 02:40 PM
How does one carry around 1000 lbs of anything ?

Miraz
October 19, 2012, 02:43 PM
How does one carry around 1000 lbs of anything ?

Using his/her neurons within the cerebrum. Or let's simply say within his "head".

HereWeGo
October 19, 2012, 03:05 PM
Its time to educate the parents on pros and cons of sending their kids abroad. It is a lot of money for a lot of people and they should only decide on the investment based on the potential and not make emotional decision.

In our culture it is always presumed that foreign universities are always better and that is never true. May be 5 of the top 10 universities are in States but at the same time 10 of the worst 10 universities are also in States. And getting a scholarship on those stupid universities should not be a measure of the childs potential...

Ajfar
October 19, 2012, 03:29 PM
US Universities make a whole lot of money from foreign students. At some of the State Universities International students pay close to $35,000 maybe more, which is at least 10-15 grand more than in state or out of state students have to pay. Plus they either have to pay up front or pay in installment before the semester is over. As far as I know international students can't get loans through Financial Aid. It's a tough world here for International students. Most of the International kids I met so far are from Middle East with loaded parents. I don't know how Middle Class Bangladeshi Students afford it here, plus they can't get job outside the university because they don't have word permit/SS number.

BANFAN
October 19, 2012, 03:40 PM
Its time to educate the parents on pros and cons of sending their kids abroad. It is a lot of money for a lot of people and they should only decide on the investment based on the potential and not make emotional decision.

In our culture it is always presumed that foreign universities are always better and that is never true. May be 5 of the top 10 universities are in States but at the same time 10 of the worst 10 universities are also in States. And getting a scholarship on those stupid universities should not be a measure of the childs potential...

Need to educate the employers too. A piece of paper from any damn place of USA is valued more than the best in your own country... So what's the problem with the parents. And most parents who affords their kids to send to USA, does it when they fail to get an admission in Eng/ Med...thinking those will get their kids a better career/social reputation. That way, the entire society needs to know the actual picture, but first and foremost the employers... If there is no demand, people on wont run after it.

Crisis
October 19, 2012, 05:26 PM
Can we cancel his citizenship or is it too late ?

sharup
October 19, 2012, 05:36 PM
Don't believe everything you read in the paper or see in the news. If they can cover up 911 truth they can do pretty much do anything. Not saying this not true but what the media says is the official version. There are two sides to a coin.

They sold a war to the world and the world bought it. May be there is some truth in it but I don't buy their bullsh!t anymore. F*** them f***ers

HereWeGo
October 19, 2012, 05:42 PM
Don't believe everything you read in the paper or see in the news. If they can cover up 911 truth they can do pretty much do anything. Not saying this not true but what the media says is the official version. There are two sides to a coin.

They sold a war to the world and the world bought it. May be there is some truth in it but I don't buy their bullsh!t anymore. F*** them f***ers

LOL!!!
Are you for real?

Ajfar
October 19, 2012, 05:53 PM
Don't believe everything you read in the paper or see in the news. If they can cover up 911 truth they can do pretty much do anything. Not saying this not true but what the media says is the official version. There are two sides to a coin.

They sold a war to the world and the world bought it. May be there is some truth in it but I don't buy their bullsh!t anymore. F*** them f***ers

Yes I'm sure the American Government and Obama has nothing better just 3 weeks before Election time, so what do they do? They find a lonely boy off the street, and frame him.

HereWeGo
October 19, 2012, 05:56 PM
I blame hizbut tahrir - I know I come across like a broken record here...but the reach these people have is unbelievable.

As I said before, my own cousin is a victim of their particular brand of brainwashing and we are struggling to pull him back from the edge.

This is a kid who aced his SSC/HSC exams and is now a chemistry student at DU.

Never mixed with any crowd let alone the 'wrong' crowd, and that was the hook. They go for the quiet, unassuming, slightly detached kids. Give them a sense of belonging and the rest is history.

There are teachers with ties to these groups in private and public universities...and the dangers are increasing.

Obviously we aren't some mental nation where people are going to start a jihad tomorrow...but we need to act now.

AND you are correct
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2012/1019/Bangladesh-worries-plot-to-blow-up-the-Federal-Reserve-will-hurt-moderate-image

"A senior faculty member at the North South University in Bangladesh, where Nafis studied before moving to the US, told The Christian Science Monitor that Nafis was involved with the Hizbut Tahrir, a global organization that advocates a pan-Islamic caliphate and was banned in Bangladesh in 2009. Bangladesh military officials arrested leaders of the group in January after what they claimed was a failed attempt to topple the government"

sharup
October 19, 2012, 06:22 PM
Yes I'm sure the American Government and Obama has nothing better just 3 weeks before Election time, so what do they do? They find a lonely boy off the street, and frame him.

All I said was I don't believe everything that comes out of the officials' mouths. Who knows why they do certain things at certain time? The game of politics is far beyond our imagination. The vast majority of politicians are liars and hypocrites wherever you may go.

Now that you have mentioned about election - how do you know that Obama is not trying to get some credit on war on terrorism and boost his rating in the poll?

How do you explain finding a terrorist's passport on 911 burning rubble? If they can make up such horsecr@p why can't they make up anything to demonise Islam?

I am not saying Bengali guy isn't at fault but bear in mind that there's a colour picture to every story. We are just looking at the black and white print.

Always remain skeptic when stories like this break out.

Max100
October 19, 2012, 06:57 PM
Talk about taking things out of context and doom mongering!

OMG OMG OMG!!!

EDIT: oh and outright lies! The govt deserves to be torn apart for the bridge debacle, but no need to make up ****.

Padma bridge is going to cost $3bil - the biggest infrastructure project in our history. $1bil is equal to ~8200 crore taka, so 24000crore to build the bridge. According to your lie it cost how much money to change names at the airport???

Was this lie one of those Facebook messages that gets passed around by the retards or something some 'expert' offered up as fact.


My mistake. Exact amount is 1400 crore to change the airport name.still thats a lot of money for poor country like us. I think thats a big waste of public money . Do u agree on that

BengaliPagol
October 19, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nafis and his family lived in Jatrabari. He lived right next to my mum/grandparents house. I tried contacting my grandfather to ask about if he knew Nafis, because believe me, my grandfather knows everyone in the area. Apparently Nafis went to the mosque for every prayer which kind of scares me because that would have meant i was approxiamtely 10m away from him. Theres a mosque right in front of my grandparents house which Nafis would have went to.

Anyways i just feel like there is something missing to the puzzle. Its just such as amateur to carry out, bombing a bank. Pretty much everyone who knew him said that he couldnt have done such a thing. Maybe thats the normal character of a terrorist. Im dont know but i feel like there is something missing.

Im not saying he is innocent. He did have the intentions. But there can be another side. Its just the story doesnt seem straightforward, some part sounds fishy. I feel like the story isnt complete.

Zeeshan
October 19, 2012, 07:42 PM
I wonder at what point what we write here could be admissible in court or people dragged in to testify now that bp mentions he knows someone who knows someone .... :smug:

Navo?

BengaliPagol
October 19, 2012, 07:51 PM
Bangladesh officials want more details on Fed terror plot suspect

A second man has been charged in the alleged bomb plot against the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Meanwhile, the family of the first accused bomber denies he could have done it.
By Michael Muskal October 19, 2012, 11:40 a.m.

Bangladesh (http://www.latimes.com/topic/intl/bangladesh-PLGEO00000148.topic) officials are seeking talks with U.S. State Department (http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/u.s.-department-of-state-ORGOV000000150.topic) diplomats over the arrest of a Bangladeshi man on charges that he wanted to blow up the Federal Reserve (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/economy/economic-policy/federal-reserve-ORGOV000035.topic) Bank building in New York, Bangladesh’s foreign minister said on Friday.

Speaking at a news conference in Dhaka, Bangladesh, Foreign Minister Dipu Moni said officials want to know details about the arrest of Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, 21. Nafis is being held on terror-related charges in New York, accused of trying to detonate a 1,000-pound bomb at the Federal Reserve.

A State Department spokeswoman in Washington said by telephone that she had no information about any meeting with Bangladesh representatives. The topic did not come up at the daily State Department media briefing.

Read More at: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-bangladesh-diplomats-fed-terror-plot-20121019,0,7524629.story (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/Read more)

BengaliPagol
October 19, 2012, 07:56 PM
His dad quoted this
The allegation against my son is not true at all. He could not even drive a car. How was he caught with a van?

Zunaid
October 19, 2012, 08:53 PM
LOL!!!
Are you for real?

Unfortunately. Nothing angers me more than those conspiracy theorists and deniers. They, too me, are equally culpable of the murder wrought by those 9/11 terrorists. Accessory after the fact. It amazes me that in this day and age, seemingly educated people (they are able to use the Internet) can subscribe to theories that have been debunked over and over again. They only read what they agree with, no matter the provenance of the material. I see so many people with similar attitudes in my trips back to the old country that it does not surprise me that guys like this Quazi Nafees gets turned so easily.

NoName
October 19, 2012, 09:57 PM
They subscribe to these theories because they are too damn lazy to read, they'd rather be spoon-fed a 'word of mouth'.

Maysun
October 20, 2012, 01:36 AM
BD envoy to provide legal aid until "proven guilty"

http://www.banglanews24.com/English/detailsnews.php?nssl=050519787f51f4aebc507adcfcb4d ca2&nttl=2010201256078&toppos=2

F6_Turbo
October 20, 2012, 02:09 AM
Bill Maher : to the Bangladeshi who tried to use 1000lbs of fertilizer to make a bomb...why don't you use it to grow some food


We're the butt of lame jokes about poverty again :(

sharup
October 20, 2012, 05:18 AM
Unfortunately. Nothing angers me more than those conspiracy theorists and deniers. They, too me, are equally culpable of the murder wrought by those 9/11 terrorists. Accessory after the fact. It amazes me that in this day and age, seemingly educated people (they are able to use the Internet) can subscribe to theories that have been debunked over and over again. They only read what they agree with, no matter the provenance of the material. I see so many people with similar attitudes in my trips back to the old country that it does not surprise me that guys like this Quazi Nafees gets turned so easily.

Unfortunately there are people who swallow everything that the officials has to say. In regards to 911 there are no doubts that the official version doesn't match with what actually happened. Have you ever seen a video of pentagon attack? Only ONE picture was released and even that was not clear enough at all as who how pentagon was attacked.

May be watching this might open your eyes and mind a little. She was an ex CIA Asset who's was silenced for 10 years. Watch from 7 minutes onwards for about half an hour or so. Watch it with an open mind and don't just disregard it thinking she's a conspiracy nutt job.

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deshprem
October 20, 2012, 06:05 AM
Nafis and his family lived in Jatrabari. He lived right next to my mum/grandparents house. I tried contacting my grandfather to ask about if he knew Nafis, because believe me, my grandfather knows everyone in the area. Apparently Nafis went to the mosque for every prayer which kind of scares me because that would have meant i was approxiamtely 10m away from him. Theres a mosque right in front of my grandparents house which Nafis would have went to.

Anyways i just feel like there is something missing to the puzzle. Its just such as amateur to carry out, bombing a bank. Pretty much everyone who knew him said that he couldnt have done such a thing. Maybe thats the normal character of a terrorist. Im dont know but i feel like there is something missing.

Im not saying he is innocent. He did have the intentions. But there can be another side. Its just the story doesnt seem straightforward, some part sounds fishy. I feel like the story isnt complete.


wow dude that's really interesting.

Jadukor
October 20, 2012, 06:10 AM
Waiting for the conspiracy theorists to blame it on CIA, Mossad, RAW etc.

that took a long time... but my prophecy now came true

Zeeshan
October 20, 2012, 06:26 AM
how does being skeptical leads to being a 'conspiracy theory nutjob'.... sheesh

cricheart
October 20, 2012, 06:44 AM
Unfortunately there are people who swallow everything that the officials has to say. In regards to 911 there are no doubts that the official version doesn't match with what actually happened. Have you ever seen a video of pentagon attack? Only ONE picture was released and even that was not clear enough at all as who how pentagon was attacked.

May be watching this might open your eyes and mind a little. She was an ex CIA Asset who's was silenced for 10 years. Watch from 7 minutes onwards for about half an hour or so. Watch it with an open mind and don't just disregard it thinking she's a conspiracy nutt job.
...


I dont mind beleiving any conspiracy theory upto some extend. But same way its also completely unbeleivable if someone says that such terrorist acts & stories are all lie about Muslims.
Well with least observation I cant assure you much about others but I know very well about my fellow Muslims in BD, and I can assure you I know a lot here present with little jihadi brainwash who are ready to do any harm against Non-Muslims in any place like Temple, Army Cantonment, Shahid Minar, General public meeting spots etc; let alone an American Reserve Bank or Pentagon.

BANFAN
October 20, 2012, 07:52 AM
Nothing that the western News Media or the US govt delivers, is Bible. Even bible undergoes revision or curtailed as concoction, fabrication, lies.... So you have always got to remain open to the other side of the story.

Ajfar
October 20, 2012, 06:26 PM
^ There is a difference between keeping an open mind vs. filling your mind with wild imagination like Barack Obama framed a BD kid to gain more votes in the election poll.

NoName
October 20, 2012, 07:10 PM
Ye, as if the Republicans would allow such a thing.

Zeeshan
October 20, 2012, 10:55 PM
^ There is a difference between keeping an open mind vs. filling your mind with wild imagination like Barack Obama framed a BD kid to gain more votes in the election poll.

And what exactly is the "difference" Ajfar?

We all know what mantra blah would've said: "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall off" but that doesn't help strengthen the argument in anyone's favor as it's red herring with play on words.

Did Watergate NOT happen? Did Bush NOT lie about WMD? Did Clinton NOT send air raids during his impeachment to divert attention? We...by that I mean a bleeding American that I am... are by no means angels of the world. We have got our hands dirty in many ways...

What the skeptics are saying... and there happens to be more of the open minded neutral share from European countries... instead of bandwagon pandering Americans who would just go on with flow... is that some pieces don't fit. Sure it's not as black and white as Obama trying to get brownie points, but why, tell me why, it's so stigmatized to have a neutral p.o.v other than buying what MAJORITY would buy fed by the bs from media?

F6_Turbo
October 21, 2012, 12:30 AM
The retard made a goodbye video...said video will obviously come up during the trial...there will be tons of surveillance footage.

This is not a stitch up...

F6_Turbo
October 21, 2012, 05:23 AM
Meanwhile, Bangladeshi expatriates in New York have planned a human-chain demonstration at Jackson Heights on Sunday evening (Monday 4am Bangladesh time) from which they will demand release of Nafis if he is the victim of any conspiracy or exemplary punishment if he is found guilty.

That's a bit awkward - the local media will highlight the first bit :lol:

zman
October 21, 2012, 07:40 AM
To me those who blindly accept most things they hear from the media are equally guilty as blind conspiracy theorists. Key is to be a little skeptical, hear both sides of the story first, research and analyze before forming an opinion-- that's what separates the open minded from the lazy minds (or in some cases prejudiced).

Baiting, Entrapment (aka Prevention) are common methods used by the FBI/CIA where internal operatives, ex convicts and thugs are hired to find people like Nafis, befriend them, encourage and provoke them and eventually equip them to carry out fake operations like this, and unfortunately these have been on the rise in the past few years.

The incentive? the informant gets up to 100s of thousands of dollars reward money and in many cases their past criminal records get wiped clean.

There's no reason to condone Nafis' act and he should be punished to the extent he's guilty , but from what I've read so far, the story just seems too eerily similar to the FBI "Prevention" playbook.

zman
October 21, 2012, 07:44 AM
This well written article (http://www.tothepointanalyses.com/1232) depicts different scenarios of how these operations are carried out - I'm sharing this not only to prove a point, but also with hopes that many of you'll educate others about these programs, especially family members and friends who may be coming to the US or are already here so that disastrous events like this can be avoided in the future.

PoorFan
October 21, 2012, 10:55 AM
Baiting, Entrapment (aka Prevention) are common methods used by the FBI/CIA where internal operatives, ex convicts and thugs are hired to find people like Nafis, befriend them, encourage and provoke them and eventually equip them to carry out fake operations like this, and unfortunately these have been on the rise in the past few years.

Yes, that has been the case for few years. This is why his parents as well as in Bangladesh context some people say he is 'innocent' or 'victimized', wich is usually quite different in meaning in the west I say. However this FBI/CIA way of arresting suspect and the punishment [term] if convicted fairly call for criticism. I hope his case works/create as a turning point on this regard.

inspyr9
October 21, 2012, 03:52 PM
Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

zman
October 23, 2012, 07:42 PM
Here's an interesting article (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/23/uk-usa-newyork-informant-idUKBRE89M04X20121023) published by the Reuters today

Naimul_Hd
October 23, 2012, 07:59 PM
Another BD young guy who could not control himself from taking the offerings from NYPD. Man, this story reminds me of Martin Scorcese's Oscar winning movie 'The Departed' ! Nothing less than a hollywood flick !!!

Informant: NYPD Paid Me to 'Bait' Muslims
HE TELLS AP OF HIS UNDERCOVER TACTICS
http://img1-cdn.newser.com/getimage.aspx?docid=be61acf9-8d91-4ad3-825a-7774f9893818&source=a&width=300&height=250&crop=n

Shamiur Rahman was behind bars in Queens on drug charges when he says he was approached by a plainclothes NYPD officer who offered him a chance to "turn his life around." The 19-year-old said the next month he began to infiltrate a wide variety of Muslim gatherings, including mosques and student groups, where he would snap photos and record conversations with people who had never committed a crime. Rahman, a US citizen of Bengali descent, came forward to the AP after he said he decided his actions were "detrimental to the Constitution."

Rahman says though he received minimal training from the NYPD and spied on "everything and anyone," his handlers were happy with his work. He says he was encouraged to "bait" Muslims using a strategy known as "create and capture," in which he would start a conversation about terrorism, record the responses, and send it to the NYPD (a tactic the department has denied using). He admitted that he would often take things out of context to make his handlers happy. Rahman announced his double life to friends via Facebook and now plans to move to the Caribbean.

Full article (http://www.newser.com/story/156308/informant-nypd-paid-me-to-bait-muslims.html)

sharup
October 23, 2012, 08:10 PM
Kinda matches with this article mentioned earlier by zman. I must say very interesting read. Thanks zman.

America’s FBI Goes Rogue – An Analysis (1 September 2011)

Part I – Entrapment as Government Policy

Here is an important question: What single organization is responsible for more terror plots in the USA than any other? Possible answers: Al Qaida. That would no doubt be the popular answer but it would be wrong. The KKK. Way past their prime, so that is not it. The Jewish Defense League. Good guess, but still not it. So what is the correct answer? It is the Federal Bureau of Investigation, AKA the FBI. Don’t believe me? Well, just read Trevor Aaronson’s expose entitled “The Informants” (http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/fbi-terrorist-informants)published in the September/October 2011 issue of Mother Jones.
Source: http://www.tothepointanalyses.com/1232

al Furqaan
October 27, 2012, 05:02 AM
Yeah agree. But NY is home to more than 50k (my assupmtion is 70k) Bengalis. From colleges like BMCC, La Guardia, and other CUNYs, to Jackson Heigths to Jamaica, Astoria, Parkchester, Ozone Park, Brooklyn, everywhere there is a huge presence of us. Heck, I even think Jackson Heights is home to every single 'shomiti' from every single district and subset too e.g. Dokkhin Comilla, Uttor Komilla etc..
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I was in NYC for much of this past summer. You soak in a lot more when you actually live there than when you're just visiting for a few days.

My (rough) estimate would be that there are at least 100,000 Bangladeshis just in the five boroughs alone. Wikipedia gives data that is I think at least 2 years old and estimates 70k and that is most probably an under-estimation.

Bangladeshis are everywhere in NYC.

In Midtown, I sometimes got my lunch from a Subway on 7th ave between 56th and 55th. One day I walked in wearing my old 2005 BD cricket kit. Thats throwing up a flag. Two or three brown guys and an Arab with long hair were behind the counter. One of the brown uncles asks me "Kee Khaben?" We converse, I tell them I'm from Sylhet.

Immediately the long-haired Arab perks up and then says to me "Sylheter koon district?" OK, so they're all bengali here, including the "Arab".

The Kaplan center where I was taking my review course had 2 Bangladeshis working there, one of whom resides in Woodhaven and actually recognized my name from this forum, LOL.

The there was the Duncan Donuts I used to go to on Amsterdam and 94th...all the workers were Bangladeshi. And there would often be 3-4 Bangladeshi members of the NYPD sitting there adda-ing about "playing cricket on the streets" back in the home country.

So one day I asked one of these officers how many Bangladeshis are on the force. The last batch out of the Academy he said had 9 bangladeshis, two of them were women! I told him the wiki census of 70,000 bangladeshis in the city and he said that was certainly an under-estimate. I asked if he thought there are closer to "ek lakh" bangladeshis in the city and he nodded and said "hobe" while giving the impression that that was the lower end of the estimate.

But after checking out Jackson Heights, Woodside, and Elmhurst (whose hospital on Broadway has signs written in English, Spanish, Mandarin and Bangla) and then seeing an even larger distribution of Bangla businesses on Hillside Ave in Jamaica, without venturing into the enclaves of Ditmas Park and Kensington in Brooklyn, I think I believe there are at least 100k Bangladeshis in the city proper.

I have at least two uncles who live in Nassau country (New Hyde Park), but I'm not sure what the Bangladeshi population of Long Island is like. NHP certainly doesn't have too many.

Ajfar
October 27, 2012, 08:11 AM
If you go to Dunkin Donut in the 5 boroughs you will find at least 1 maybe more Bangladeshi working there. So far every Dunkin Donut I been to in NYC I saw Bangalis working there. This is mostly due to the fact that most of these places are owned by Bangali owners, so they tend to hire deshi employees. I have a friend that lives in NYC. He worked at 3 different dunkin and all of them were owned by Bangali owner and most of the employees were Bangali.

Sohel
October 27, 2012, 09:04 AM
^DunDon is to Bangladeshi FOBs what 7/11 is to our Indian and Pakistani counterparts.

Rifat
October 28, 2012, 12:19 AM
at the end of the day, Truth Always Triumpheth! ALWAYS!!!! Allahu Akbar :notworthy:

Zeeshan
October 28, 2012, 01:57 AM
[removed flamy post]

FaHiMa
October 30, 2012, 01:44 AM
kinda summarizes the article above...

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cricheart
August 9, 2013, 07:10 PM
বোমা হামলার পরিকল্পনার সঙ্গে যুক্ত থাকার অভিযোগে যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের কারাগারে আটক বাংলাদেশি যুবক কাজী মোহাম্মদ রেজওয়ানুল আহসান নাফিসকে আজ শুক্রবার যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের একটি আদালত ৩০ বছরের কারাদণ্ড দিয়েছে।

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Justice is served.. I guess.
Hail America.:notworthy: Keep the fight against terrorists & terrorism uncompromised.

zman
August 28, 2013, 11:38 PM
There's something very disturbing about the NYPD...They're probably the most corrupt cops in the country and they always seem to go to extremes unlike other police departments or even the FBI. Check out this article (http://news.yahoo.com/nypd-designates-mosques-terrorism-organizations-070801349.html)