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kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 02:27 AM
Per Isam, Akram seems going to pick Ash for the upcoming Tests against WI!
Source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/current/story/588715.html

West Indies in Bangladesh 2012-13
Tough questions for Bangladesh selectors

The Bangladesh Test squad for the West Indies series is likely to be announced next week, and the selectors have plenty to ponder

Mohammad Isam
October 29, 2012

"Despite the mediocrity expected these days from Mohammad Ashraful, his stability in the Twenty20 team as an opener has probably won him a place in the middle-order."

kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 02:34 AM
Well, what can I say! Akram is selecting a test squad on the baiss of T20 performance!!
And don't we all know how Ash did in those two matches?

And how come Nafees even gets into considerations?? And Imrul might be considered due to Nazzimuddin's failure??

Allah, mati fak koro, ei jibon-a er logga to soy na!!!

Isnaad
November 1, 2012, 02:49 AM
If Mohammad Ashraful and/or Imrul Kayes are picked for the test squad, then I would say, the selectors haven't learnt from their previous mistakes at all.

WarWolf
November 1, 2012, 03:09 AM
Allah bachao.

Ian Pont
November 1, 2012, 03:14 AM
"Despite the mediocrity expected these days from Mohammad Ashraful, his stability in the Twenty20 team as an opener has probably won him a place in the middle-order."

If the above comment is genuine, it kinda sums up the issues in Bangladesh Cricket IMO. It is wrong on two levels (mixing T20 and then opener versus middle order).

Whether or not a player is good enough for Test cricket is one thing, but to misuse T20 cricket as the guide, is simply staggering.

My faith in Bangladesh selectors, which was never very good has just dropped off the chart.

I believe it doesn't matter who coaches the team anymore, or what plans anyone has for the team, if this is how justification for decisions is going to be made. :facepalm:

Razi
November 1, 2012, 03:22 AM
^^ For once gotta completely agree with Ian, if this was indeed the reasoning given by Akram then I've nothing to say! :down:

kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 03:27 AM
If the above comment is genuine, it kinda sums up the issues in Bangladesh Cricket IMO. It is wrong on two levels (mixing T20 and then opener versus middle order).

Whether or not a player is good enough for Test cricket is one thing, but to misuse T20 cricket as the guide, is simply staggering.

My faith in Bangladesh selectors, which was never very good has just dropped off the chart.

I believe it doesn't matter who coaches the team anymore, or what plans anyone has for the team, if this is how justification for decisions is going to be made. :facepalm:
Couldn't agree more Ian!

Unless, we have some visionary persons in our selection panel, I too see no hope. These ashfools are killing our cricket, our hopes and our future. SHAME>

Zunaid
November 1, 2012, 03:33 AM
Did Akram really say that or was Isam putting his own spin on it? The excerpted part is from a section of the article that seems to be all speculation from Isam.

yaseer
November 1, 2012, 03:37 AM
Per Isam, Akram seems going to pick Ash for the upcoming Tests against WI!
Source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh


Mohammad Isam
October 29, 2012

"Despite the mediocrity expected these days from Mohammad Ashraful, his stability in the Twenty20 team as an opener has probably won him a place in the middle-order."

Whose said this? Akram or Isam?

BTW, link is not working.

Razi
November 1, 2012, 03:41 AM
Just read the whole article and it was a mere speculation from Isam bhai, Akram didn't mention Ash's name at all!

yaseer
November 1, 2012, 03:43 AM
Just read the whole article and it was a mere speculation from Isam bhai, Akram didn't mention Ash's name at all!

I also guessed so, even though I have not read the news yet.

The wrong way would be if ASH is selected based on whatever he did in T20. As long as that is not the way selectors are thinking, its alright.

Making news out of speculation!!

kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 04:40 AM
Whose said this? Akram or Isam?

BTW, link is not working.
Link fixed.

Isam wrote the article, based on what?
If it is not Akram's (selectors) view, then Isam is responsible for his comments, then "shame" goes to him!

Isnaad
November 1, 2012, 04:55 AM
Whoever is the admin of the "Cricket Bangladesh" page on Facebook just copied my post #3 from this thread word by word and posted it as their status update. :smh: :facepalm:

BengaliPagol
November 1, 2012, 04:57 AM
If Ashraful is in the team then its pretty obvious that BCB want BD to lose the test series...

Razi
November 1, 2012, 05:30 AM
Whoever is the admin of the "Cricket Bangladesh" page on Facebook just copied my post #3 from this thread word by word and posted it as their status update. :smh: :facepalm:

LOL Isnaad, this is nothing new, infact most of theses fb pages' contents/views/pictures are being taken from BC without giving any credit whatsoever.

cricheart
November 1, 2012, 05:41 AM
When Bangladesh is back to forgetful Test arena again after such a loooong time, it will be normal to see lots of wickets throwing as batsmen wobbling around & lustful towards in making of horizontal shots regularly at least in the first test. I really don’t like to blame selectors here to build up any wrong squad that may result in another innings defeat. IMO They have a good opportunity here to do some experiment.
Question should be ask abt Ashraful, if he turns out to be one of the least batting performers (among many), will he be sacked at 2nd test? As it's easy to blame on him, like always.

al Furqaan
November 1, 2012, 06:07 AM
If the above comment is genuine, it kinda sums up the issues in Bangladesh Cricket IMO. It is wrong on two levels (mixing T20 and then opener versus middle order).

Whether or not a player is good enough for Test cricket is one thing, but to misuse T20 cricket as the guide, is simply staggering.

My faith in Bangladesh selectors, which was never very good has just dropped off the chart.

I believe it doesn't matter who coaches the team anymore, or what plans anyone has for the team, if this is how justification for decisions is going to be made. :facepalm:

In general, yes, you are correct. But I feel that in general our selectors have done an honest job for the most part. Their hindsights, whenever they ocurred, are more a problem of our limitations. Ashraful has over 200 caps because we really never had anyone better. Even for this WI series, unless the selectors make gutsy calls and draft Soumya, Anamul, and Mominul we are guaranteed to have at least one or two batsman who don't provide any advantage over having an Ashraful.

Secondly, I think some of the major sides also engage in a bit of this "optimistic selection" albeit not as regularly as we do. I remember during the 2010 England tour, when Eoin Morgan made his debut, the commies on TMS where saying that Morgan's selection was particularly under the microscope since he hadn't made "a mountain of first class runs" and was selected on his T20/ODI reputation of being a "game-maker".

West Indies have done that with Narine. Possibly with Bishoo as well. I think Ajantha Mendis got his start with Sri Lanka in similar unconventional fashion.

simon
November 1, 2012, 06:26 AM
sorry to say but this is yet another pointless Ashraful thread.
It's just Isam's speculation, Akram said nothing about it as it seems reading the interview.
Even if it happens won't be anything new as selectors love Ash a lot.

Anyway, what is more important is the opening spot, Nazim or Kaedge, let's see who they pick, probably NAzim although Isam bhai thinks probably Kaedge.

Equinox
November 1, 2012, 06:27 AM
No mention of Nazmul which means he'll almost certainly be ignored again after picking up 3/80 on a dead track in the last Test he played and 4/46 in his last FC match. And picking Ashraful to ensure stability in the middle-order? Are you frickin' kidding me? If you want stability pick Naeem Islam. Imrul/Nazim, SN, Ashraful, Rubel, Shahadat. Bhaloi. Can't wait for this series to begin.

edit: It does seem that Isam made that up. Ash has done nothing to get back in the Test team.

Jadukor
November 1, 2012, 06:44 AM
No mention of Nazmul which means he'll almost certainly be ignored again after picking up 3/80 on a dead track in the last Test he played and 4/46 in his last FC match.
yep as usual Nazmul is not even in the discussion. I guess we will select from Abul, Shahadat and Shafiul:facepalm:

kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 06:48 AM
sorry to say but this is yet another pointless Ashraful thread.

Thanks for the compliments!

It's not an Ash thread, rather a call to the selectors to act wisely!! You pick up a squad on performance basis, not emotion!!!

And, if you read carefully, I wrote: "Per Isam, Akram seems going to pick Ash for the upcoming Tests against WI!"

kalpurush
November 1, 2012, 07:00 AM
No mention of Nazmul which means he'll almost certainly be ignored again after picking up 3/80 on a dead track in the last Test he played and 4/46 in his last FC match. And picking Ashraful to ensure stability in the middle-order? Are you frickin' kidding me? If you want stability pick Naeem Islam. Imrul/Nazim, SN, Ashraful, Rubel, Shahadat. Bhaloi. Can't wait for this series to begin.

I would also pick Nazmul ahead of Shafiul/Abul.
Nazmul's accuracy of line and length could trouble WI a lot as they seems love to play big shots often.

simon
November 1, 2012, 07:06 AM
Thanks for the compliments!

It's not an Ash thread, rather a call to the selectors to act wisely!! You pick up a squad on performance basis, not emotion!!!

And, if you read carefully, I wrote: "Per Isam, Akram seems going to pick Ash for the upcoming Tests against WI!"

According to the title it's still a Ash related thread.
As it's per Isam we don't need to worry, Ash might not be even in their(selectors/Akram's) mind.
And selectors or BCB don't care what we think otherwise they wouldn't make Jogashon the head coach,in BC after the T20 cup many of us were saying Jogashon should be sacked as our bowling didn't improve under him, but they made him our interim head coach.

Naimul_Hd
November 1, 2012, 07:31 AM
Whoever is the admin of the "Cricket Bangladesh" page on Facebook just copied my post #3 from this thread word by word and posted it as their status update. :smh: :facepalm:

I believe the admin of that page is a member here. If you read this, please stop 'copy & paste' habit of yours. Its not the first time, i have noticed it before too. I hope you are not that dumb that you can't even write 1/2 lines of English in your own word. Worst case scenario, if you can't write in your own then at least mention the source from where you have taken it. Thanks

Rabz
November 1, 2012, 07:44 AM
Nothing ignites fire like Ash !!
BCites need daily doze of Ash tonic.

Shaun petr
November 1, 2012, 07:58 AM
:Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.............helllllll noooooooooooo:facepalm:

BanCricFan
November 1, 2012, 08:40 AM
Al-Furqaan has almost got it right in his last post. Despite their obvious limitations, selectors dont have it easy either picking a BD Test squad. We hardly have any viable replacements for the like of Sir. Ashdafool. Also, in our context, it would be almost blasphemous to even ponder of dropping one of the country's most "experienced" and top run-getters in Test over rookies like Mominul or other names flying about here from trigger-happy fans. Some of the pundits here need to realize that there is a HUGE gulf between Test cricket and our picnic-styled NCL. These next generation of BD Bradmans coudn't even perform consistently at an U19 WC ( except, Anamul) and they are being advocated for TEST cricket! Do we not have such panache for destroying any buddying careers!

For the selectors, please stop using T20, ODI stats for Test cricket and vice verse as the main criterion...once and for all!

AsifTheManRahman
November 1, 2012, 10:12 AM
What's Jahirul Islam up to these days? Has he forgotten how to hold a bat?

M.H.Rubel
November 1, 2012, 10:45 AM
According to Isam vais article probable line up is:
1. Tamim
2.Kayes/ Nazimuddin
3. SN/. . . . . . . . .
4. . . . . . . . .
5.Mushy
6. Shakib
7. Riyad
8. Nasir
9. Enam/ Sunny
10.Rubel
11. Pacer

To me Kayes is not a good option for #2. If SN is not considered as #3 then he should be considered as opener. So my team would be:
1. Tamim
2.SN/Nazimuddin
3. Mominul
4. Naeem
5.Mushy
6. Shakib
7. Riyad
8. Nasir
9. Enam/ Sunny
10.Rubel
11. Shahadat

BrianLara7
November 1, 2012, 10:47 AM
worry not, Ashraful voktos will come up with reasons to justify this selection (he wasn't given enough chances, dropped unfairly. same as ones ashraful uses) and then excuses to justify his guaranteed eventual failures (he was just unlucky)

BrianLara7
November 1, 2012, 10:51 AM
Ashraful worshippers typical argument - we don't have anyone better. Well Ashraful averages 17 in test cricket in last 3 years.. I can guarantee that if given a consistent run every batsman no matter how crap he is can atleast average 20.

mij
November 1, 2012, 10:52 AM
You want shahdat in test team? Look like you are looking forward to WI's white wash, and if you add Ash. Make that done.

BrianLara7
November 1, 2012, 10:55 AM
Nafees, Junaid, Mahmudullah, Naeem Islam all average far better than him... and ofcourse we got Mushfiq, Tamim and Shakib are there...no place in top 7 or even top 8 for the failure known as Sir Ash.

shuridh
November 1, 2012, 11:04 AM
Ashraful for the test no.
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mali007
November 1, 2012, 11:39 AM
If it is true than we need a Selection Board to select the SELECTORS !!

Matribhasha
November 1, 2012, 08:54 PM
[quote=simon;1596037]sorry to say but this is yet another pointless Ashraful thread.
Yes, it indeed is. Hence you should know, pointing so out is even more pointless.

Tiger444
November 1, 2012, 08:57 PM
Guys let's just wait and see what the actual Test squad is before we comment. Obviously Isam bhai knows more than we do about the squad makeup but its still not set in stone.
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reyme
November 1, 2012, 10:37 PM
I wonder what will happen if SIR now hits a TON?

MohammedC
November 1, 2012, 10:43 PM
I wonder what will happen if SIR now hits a TON?

It has to be a double.

BANFAN
November 1, 2012, 10:48 PM
There was a comment from AK that Ash, Nazim, a a few new omers like Mominul, Shohag, Anamul might be seen in the test team....SJ might have his preferences basing on his observations and how he wants to utilize whom in the combination. A player can perform different if used at the right time and place by a coach, after all, they are aware of the current situation of a player much better than fans. Stats do form a baseline, but isn't surely the only thing considered to select a player.

Ian Pont
November 2, 2012, 02:56 AM
In general, yes, you are correct. But I feel that in general our selectors have done an honest job for the most part. Their hindsights, whenever they ocurred, are more a problem of our limitations. Ashraful has over 200 caps because we really never had anyone better. Even for this WI series, unless the selectors make gutsy calls and draft Soumya, Anamul, and Mominul we are guaranteed to have at least one or two batsman who don't provide any advantage over having an Ashraful.

Secondly, I think some of the major sides also engage in a bit of this "optimistic selection" albeit not as regularly as we do. I remember during the 2010 England tour, when Eoin Morgan made his debut, the commies on TMS where saying that Morgan's selection was particularly under the microscope since he hadn't made "a mountain of first class runs" and was selected on his T20/ODI reputation of being a "game-maker".

West Indies have done that with Narine. Possibly with Bishoo as well. I think Ajantha Mendis got his start with Sri Lanka in similar unconventional fashion.

I am not not commenting on WHO they select. I am commenting on HOW the selection is made and judged, if this is true.

Sovik
November 2, 2012, 03:19 AM
Sir Ash failed. Problem solved

Night_wolf
November 2, 2012, 05:38 AM
here we go again....why??..what has he done to deserve a call in the test squad?..what are his recent FC scores?

AbuDarda
November 2, 2012, 10:19 AM
AshraFool is done and dusted,this chapter should be closed permanently!

Razi
November 2, 2012, 12:02 PM
[বাংলা]আমাকে খেলার সুযোগ দেয়া হচ্ছে না - আশরাফুল[/বাংলা] (http://bdsportsnews.com/index.php/cricket/item/6185-2012-11-02-05-23-25) :floor::floor::floor:

Murad
November 2, 2012, 02:01 PM
[বাংলা]আমাকে খেলার সুযোগ দেয়া হচ্ছে না - আশরাফুল[/বাংলা] (http://bdsportsnews.com/index.php/cricket/item/6185-2012-11-02-05-23-25) :floor::floor::floor:

This is over 1 yr old news. Ei site ta notun kore publish korse.

Nadim
November 2, 2012, 04:48 PM
Ash ke chance deowa hok. Ash holo amader ashar ful. O na thakle amader asha'o nai. Team e thakle asha thake jei projonto out na hoy:D
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