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BANFAN
November 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
"The young off spinner, who started his career as a pace bowler but later changed his mind due to a lack of pace especially after a hammering at the hands of Tamim Iqbal during an Under-13 match in Chittagong in 2000, was so excited with the call-up that he could barely express his emotions."

Had been doing well with bat and ball for last couple of years. His selection has not surprised many. He can be the legacy of Saqlain Mushtaque's coaching career in BD, provided he can learn and perform like the legend. Looking forward...

Gowza
November 8, 2012, 06:06 PM
Good luck to him! i hope he has a bright test match career. hope he plays in the XI in the first test and hope he does well!

Maysun
November 9, 2012, 01:25 AM
All the best, Gazi!

Jadukor
November 9, 2012, 02:09 AM
Really want to see him in action against the WI

Isnaad
November 9, 2012, 03:36 AM
Really want to see him in action against the WI

Same here. He needs to make it into the XI.

Naimul_Hd
November 9, 2012, 04:00 AM
Gazi abar kokhon Pazi hoye jaye ke jane ! Shobai promise niye ashe, kintu koyek din jawar por chehara paltaye jaye !

WarWolf
November 9, 2012, 05:45 AM
Gazi abar kokhon Pazi hoye jaye ke jane ! Shobai promise niye ashe, kintu koyek din jawar por chehara paltaye jaye !
No other bangladeshi spinner excepts SLAs has shown such good promise. Insha Allah he will do well.

MohammedC
November 9, 2012, 12:30 PM
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HereWeGo
November 9, 2012, 12:44 PM
"I came into the team as an offspinner and I wish to continue that" ----- er maney ki??

Tiger444
November 9, 2012, 12:50 PM
Pretty much a given that he will end up playing. Wish him all the best.

kalpurush
November 9, 2012, 12:59 PM
Gazi, dekhtey chai mathey
tumer paizzamee...

kalpurush
November 9, 2012, 01:03 PM
"I came into the team as an offspinner and I wish to continue that" ----- er maney ki??^^^
He wants to permanent his position in the national team as an off-spinner for good.

deshimon
November 9, 2012, 01:04 PM
Hope he can perform good like Shakib with bat and ball. Then we won't need a specialist spinner.

Fazal
November 9, 2012, 02:17 PM
Naam the vari sundor...mone hoi adore adore manush hoeche.

Lets see what he can do in the field. Its a crowded field (i.e. spinners) ... will not get that many chances... so rather use the 1st one and create some permanent positive impression.

SS
November 9, 2012, 03:18 PM
Naam the vari sundor...mone hoi adore adore manush hoeche.

Lets see what he can do in the field. Its a crowded field (i.e. spinners) ... will not get that many chances... so rather use the 1st one and create some permanent positive impression.

Remember how Sir made the first impression with the hundred against SL...his legacy still continues...

crikss
November 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
best of luck Sohag Pazi ...hope you shine against WI

HereWeGo
November 9, 2012, 03:26 PM
Bangladeshi track would favor the spinners more than pacers..
Windies team is not great at playing quality spin
The team has many left handers, clearly an advantage for off spinner...

So ideal time to debut..
Wish u all the luck...

Fazal
November 9, 2012, 05:09 PM
Bangladeshi track would favor the spinners more than pacers..
Windies team is not great at playing quality spin
...


I don 't about that, but I hope you are right. We always hear about some of our opponents that they are not good in our spinning track and we will have advantage. But then we see, its our batsman you have problem playing against any decent spin attack.

Jadukor
November 9, 2012, 09:30 PM
i am sick of watching SLAs for so many years.. it's time to see specialist off-spin for a change. (please don't bring up Mahmudullah)

Sohel
November 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
I'm really looking forward to the day when guys like Shohag proudly give interviews in Bangla without interjecting English words to appear more "hip". Incorrect use of interjected words makes them appear the exact opposite.

Anyway, good luck to him as he'll need plenty of that at the highest level will better players and greater pressure to perform in a far more competitive environment with the nation's expectations on his shoulders. I hope and pray he does well but won't put my money on him to do so. I hope and pray he has at least one notable success before being discarded for good.

cricbook
November 9, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sakib....Gazi....Sunny.....to me wi er abar khobor ase.....t20 world cup er shunam mone hoi bangladeshi rekhe jabe....good luck bangladesh &co....:flag:

Rabz
November 10, 2012, 01:06 AM
Gazi is the welcome change we all been waiting for.
Wish him all the very best in the coming days.

WarWolf
November 10, 2012, 01:20 AM
I have high hopes for him. Taking wickets is a habit and this boy seems to have that habit.

Best of luck for him.

BanCricFan
November 11, 2012, 02:21 PM
If he does debut come tomorrow hope the lad expresses himself confidently and has a great outing. Would like to see positive body languages from the boys. Nasir should lead the way. :)

All the best to Shohag Gazi.

WarWolf
November 12, 2012, 11:45 PM
Way to go my boy. You already have proved what you are capable of. Insha Allah you will only get better from here.

MohammedC
November 13, 2012, 12:03 AM
Sohag Gazi's first test wicket

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simon
November 13, 2012, 12:17 AM
chaliye jao Gazi
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Maysun
November 13, 2012, 12:37 AM
Good start to the Test career. Play well, boy!

Sohel
November 13, 2012, 12:43 AM
Gutsy debut MashAllah. I hope he gets a 5er and then goes on to replicate the early success. He has turned it up a notch.

Jadukor
November 13, 2012, 12:54 AM
well played so far!

Rifat
November 13, 2012, 12:54 AM
may Allah give him success with the bat as well :)

Nadim
November 13, 2012, 01:06 AM
Finally a spinner with variation and a gd fielder too. Don't care about his batting as long he can bowl like this
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22Yards
November 13, 2012, 01:07 AM
Our future looks promising with the Gazis Anamuls and Mominuls. They are/will be great addition to our elites Shakib Tamim Nasir. I hope every one of these guys end up achieving the "world class" title.

Imteaz
November 13, 2012, 01:11 AM
All the best . . . but . . . ! ! ! !

Razi
November 13, 2012, 01:12 AM
http://www.banglanews24.com/images/PhotoGallery/2012November/Mithun-1120121112214835.jpg

Really impressed with his flight and variation, got some big turn too. We need to stick with him having Saqlain around, the boy surely got potential and if he can learn something from the legend then that would be great!

MohammedC
November 13, 2012, 01:26 AM
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Nadim
November 13, 2012, 01:32 AM
The awkward moment when Shamim gets confused with Saqlain and Shakib :sick::mad:

technocrews
November 13, 2012, 01:37 AM
গাজী ভাই এগিয়ে যাও আমরা আছি তোমার সাথে

Maysun
November 13, 2012, 01:44 AM
The awkward moment when Shamim gets confused with Saqlain and Shakib :sick::mad:

All years of hardworking gone to waste. Can't even identify who Saqlain is and who Shakib is!

Isnaad
November 13, 2012, 02:04 AM
Impressive comeback!
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Equinox
November 13, 2012, 03:38 AM
What a debut so far on the flattest of pitches. Shohag is one for the future. We have found our off-spinner.

Rabz
November 13, 2012, 04:15 AM
Impressive debut and first day so far.
Need to take a fifer boy.
C'mon two more wickets.

oronnya
November 13, 2012, 05:47 AM
Good find for BD... Hope he got the doosra in his armory too :)... Inshallah he will get a 5er !!!

zinatf
November 13, 2012, 07:07 AM
:applause: reckon he'll be amazing in this series!!

simon
November 13, 2012, 07:13 AM
a 5er is on the cards iA ,he is just 2 wckts away and as it looks like he will bowl a long spell tomorrow.

Ekhon abar Saqlain mamu na bole boshey, Shohag amar i abishkar. :ohno:

Gowza
November 13, 2012, 07:22 AM
Great addition to the test team, he's been a part of all 4 wickets that have been taken so far. Will make a really solid bowling unit with shakib and sunny.

kumar89
November 13, 2012, 09:03 AM
I think this guy can easily get into the ODI team. I like his bowling action and his line+length.

ODI Bowlers: Shakib, Razzak, Sohag, Rubel, Mashrafe.

Nadim
November 13, 2012, 11:03 AM
[বাংলা]সোহাগ গাজীকে খেলাবেন এমন পরিকল্পনা আগে থেকেই ছিলো জাতীয় দল নির্বাচকদের। মঙ্গলবার তিনি খেললেনও। অভিষেক টেস্টের প্রথম ওভারে ১৪ রান দিলেও দিন শেষে তিনিই সফল বোলার। ৩২ ওভারে ৯৭ রান দিয়ে শিকার করেন তিন উইকেট। ক্রিস গেইল, কাইরান পাওয়েল ও ড্যারেন ব্রাভোকে আউট করেছেন তিনি। খেলা শেষে সংবাদ সম্মেলনে আন্তর্জাতিক ম্যাচের অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পর্কে বলছিলেন সোহাগ গাজী।

প্রশ্ন: প্রথম ওভারে ১৮ রান দেওয়ার পর কি মনে হয়েছে?

সোহাগ গাজী: আগে থেকে প্রস্তুতি ছিলো গেইল আক্রমণে থাকলে আমি প্রথম ওভার করবো। ওই ভাবে প্রস্তুতি নিয়ে বোলিং করেছি, কি আর করা ওইরকম হয়নি। কিন্তু দ্বিতীয় ওভারে আমার প্রস্তুতি ছিলো যে, কিছু একটা করতে হবে। ভালো করে বল করতে হবে, বেশি করে ডট বল করতে হবে। কে আক্রমণে ছিলো আমি তা ভাবিনি। [/বাংলা]

Read the full interview here: http://www.banglanews24.com/detailsnews.php?nssl=6aadc19cb15cf2c38c0b2aa5b43fd 362&nttl=20121113064451151093

roman
November 13, 2012, 11:13 AM
Ekhon abar Saqlain mamu na bole boshey, Shohag amar i abishkar. :ohno:

Shobar ki aar boro gola?

SS
November 13, 2012, 11:15 AM
Great show and also great comeback after first greeted by Gayle, Powell, Bravo..but he still has major work to be done as Ramdin and Chanderpaul is on the way of making double tons...I hope and wish Ins he will get more wickets and we can atleast get few more wickets...unfortunately he is not getting help at all from other end...this is pathetic team contribution...you can't rely on one person to take all the wickets...Shohag please continue to do well and just play with your heart Inshallah you will be rewarded and our well wishes are with you

Nadim
November 13, 2012, 11:26 AM
a 5er is on the cards iA ,he is just 2 wckts away and as it looks like he will bowl a long spell tomorrow.

Ekhon abar Saqlain mamu na bole boshey, Shohag amar i abishkar. :ohno:

Shobar ki aar boro gola?

Allah ke donnobad je Mushtaque bhai BC te member na. :D

ialbd
November 13, 2012, 11:45 AM
the way this test is poised now, we need his batting contribution as well....

anyways great debut... and the best part is he can actually turn the ball...

oronnya
November 13, 2012, 12:17 PM
“After first over, captain (Mushfiqur Rahim) just said one thing – the reason he (Gayle) is charging you because he can’t play your balls, just keep bowling like this. So did I,” Gazi added.- That's really nice from Mushy.. That's how a captain should encourage his bowlers..

I sincerely want Gazi to be a imp part of our team.. Please selectors get rid of SRK (permanently) and Riyad now and go with all spin attack..Bring in Sunny/Enam.. The combination of Gazi, Shakib, Sunny/Enam/Razzak will be better than what we are getting from our pace duo..r kichhu na hok opponent er run er chakar goti kichhu kom hobe...The opponents won't get those freebies every over:facepalm:

AsifTheManRahman
November 13, 2012, 01:06 PM
Meh. Even if he gets a Pfeiffer on debut, meh. Elias done it, heck even Durjoy done it. As Raynman bhai said somewhere else, these individual performances don't matter anymore, unless it's a double century, a world record breaking bowling effort, or something similarly significant. Gazi so far has taken 3 at a 30+ avg, the WI are well on course for 600 and we're nowhere in the game. So big deal. Give me team results, screw individual performances.

BANFAN
November 13, 2012, 03:31 PM
“After first over, captain (Mushfiqur Rahim) just said one thing – the reason he (Gayle) is charging you because he can’t play your balls, just keep bowling like this. So did I,” Gazi added.- That's really nice from Mushy.. That's how a captain should encourage his bowlers..

.............:

He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

Murad
November 13, 2012, 03:33 PM
Ekhon abar Saqlain mamu na bole boshey, Shohag amar i abishkar. :ohno:
Bolle o mittha hobe na.
Sohag or kas theke onek kisu shikheche. Saqlain onekdin dorei Sohag er sathe kaj kortese. Doosra o shikhaiche but off-season e practice korte bolche.
But keo ar oi manushtar moto hobe na je bolbe amar karonei ora eto bhalo bowling korse.

[বাংলা]প্রশ্ন: সাকলাইন মুস্তাকের কাছ থেকে কোন পরামর্শ নিয়েছিলেন?

সোহাগ গাজী: লাঞ্চের পরে পাওয়েল যে শতক করলো, আমি কোচের (সাকলাইন) কাছে জিজ্ঞেস করেছি তাকে (পাওয়েল) কোন পরিকল্পনায় বোলিং করা যায়। তিনি আমাকে বলেছেন, তুমি রাউন্ড দ্যা উইকেটে বোলিং কর। সিক্স-থ্রি পজিশন দেখে বোলিং কর।

প্রশ্ন: খেলার আগে কি বলেছিলেন?

সোহাগ গাজী: খেলার আগে একটা টিপসই দিয়েছেন, ভালো কর, তুমি পারবে। আসলে তিনি আমাকে সাহস দিয়েছেন। [/বাংলা]

roman
November 13, 2012, 03:35 PM
He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

:up::floor:

oronnya
November 13, 2012, 03:38 PM
He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

:floor::floor::floor:

well said :)

simon
November 13, 2012, 03:42 PM
He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

:lol::floor: jotil

Nadim
November 13, 2012, 03:43 PM
He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

Hahaha I blame mushy now:mad:
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Zeeshan
November 13, 2012, 04:06 PM
k kar bunny, kurbunny hay zahapona.......

Isnaad
November 13, 2012, 10:25 PM
He must have said the same thing to Shahadat....:lol:

This post was genuinely hilarious :lol:

WarWolf
November 14, 2012, 01:26 AM
Once Shohag is able to develop a genuine odd delivery like doosra, he would become much more lethal.

Sohel
November 14, 2012, 03:04 AM
I can sense the doubt creeping in after a wicketless day 2 ... :lol:

deshimon
November 14, 2012, 09:59 AM
Now we can hope a good innings as a good all rounder.

roman
November 14, 2012, 10:22 AM
I can sense the doubt creeping in after a wicketless day 2 ... :lol:

Actually he almost had Chanderpaul, but Our beloved Junaid was munificent..

kumar89
November 14, 2012, 10:28 AM
Sohag Should be in the ODI Squad.

BANFAN
November 14, 2012, 11:18 AM
If he contributes with the bat too, that will be excellent for our future...

simon
November 14, 2012, 11:25 AM
was his recent hundred a jhor bok one or does he usually bats,gets 50s every now and then.
how many hundreds he got?

shakibrulz
November 14, 2012, 11:34 AM
I guess he's probably a Ziaur sort of slogger, but surely not the worst guy to have at #9, obviously.

SS
November 14, 2012, 02:39 PM
One day hiru next day ziro (thanks Big Z for making it happen faster)

Equinox
November 14, 2012, 04:36 PM
May I point out that he is still so far the only spinner to get a wicket in this Test match? :)

Dilscoop
November 14, 2012, 04:47 PM
Prediction. Zero to two wickets from rest of the series.

Then they will try him in ODI and Test. And boom, we'll have another Enamul Haq Jr. Jr.

M.H.Rubel
November 15, 2012, 09:31 AM
I was searching a thread to share views of Durjoy about Off spinners, I think this therad can be a place to share.
Durjoy was asked about why we lack off spinners?
He said lots of teams in DPL dont want to include off spinners in the team. Rather want extra batsman. So all those batting all-rounders who can do some off spin are a big threat to develop off spinners? This is shoking.
 বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটে অফ স্পিনারের সংকটের কী কারণ মনে হয়?
নাঈমুর: কেউ ডানহাতি হবে, কেউ বাঁহাতি হবে এটাই স্বাভাবিক। আর অফ স্পিনারের কথা যদি বলেন, ওরা দলের ভেতরই থাকে। এখন কথা হলো আপনি তাদের কাজে লাগাবেন কি না, কিংবা অফ স্পিনার হিসেবে খেলাবেন কি না। একাদশে ব্যাটসম্যান বাড়াতে গিয়ে আমাদের ক্লাবগুলো অফ স্পিনার খেলাতে চায় না। হয়তো ভাবে ৩-৪ জন বোলার দিয়েই তো কাজ হয়ে যায়। বাড়তি বোলার না নিয়ে ব্যাটসম্যানই নিই। অফ স্পিনারদের তাই একমাত্র কাজ হয়ে পড়ে বেঞ্চ গরম করা। এমনও ক্রিকেটার আছে ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে এই প্রবণতার জন্য হতাশ হয়ে খেলাই ছেড়ে দিয়েছে।
 সমস্যাটা কাটিয়ে ওঠা যায় কীভাবে?
নাঈমুর: প্রথম শ্রেণীর ক্রিকেট বাড়াতে হবে। যত বেশি খেলা হবে, বল করার সুযোগ আসবে তত বেশি, অফ স্পিনারদের খেলানোর সম্ভাবনা বাড়বে। এ ছাড়া মানসিকতার পরিবর্তনও জরুরি।

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-11-15/news/305732

BANFAN
November 15, 2012, 09:37 AM
I was searching a thread to share views of Durjoy about Off spinners, I think this therad can be a place to share.
Durjoy was asked about why we lack off spinners?
He said lots of teams in DPL dont want to include off spinners in the team. Rather want extra batsman. So all those batting all-rounders who can do some off spin are a big threat to develop off spinners? This is shoking.


http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-11-15/news/305732

Good share...in fact we all know the limitations of cricketing knowledge and culture in our country... So that's definitely a problem for development of skills...

Gowza
November 15, 2012, 07:15 PM
gazi is the right handed shakib. just kidding. but they have really similar bowling actions and sohag has played some decent knocks in the NCL.

this business of holding back bowlers is not good news, and i think the structure of the national team of the last few years has had an impact since most of the time they bat down to 7 or 8 when really you just need 6 batsmen, 1 keeper batsman, and 1 or 2 bowling allrounders then the specialist bowlers.

bowling allrounders i think are generally more useful because usually it's easier to develop someone's batting than it is their bowling. that's why a lot of age group players go from being bowlers to batsmen whereas you don't get it the other way around as much.

Zeeshan
November 15, 2012, 07:18 PM
He is like Shakib only action-wise only but other than that Shakib doesn't flight as much as deviating his LnL and spin.

Edit: Just saw the j/k part. :facepalm: at moi

Nadim
November 16, 2012, 11:16 PM
What a find for us!!!Allah malik!
Just run through WI tails:clap: congrats! hope many more to come:bravo:

jeesh
November 16, 2012, 11:23 PM
Good stuff. We ve finally found a quality OS. Will really spice up our attack in all formats.

Tiger Manc
November 17, 2012, 06:16 AM
Well done! Great find. Hope he develops carrom balls and wrong'uns in future. Is that a new record for best performance on debut?

WarWolf
November 17, 2012, 08:55 AM
Congrats boy! Proud of you.

Keep on doing good works. Don't take your place for granted in the team.

shuziburo
November 18, 2012, 12:47 PM
I am aware of the possibility that Sohag Gazi is a 1-hit wonder. But, I liked his bowling. He can generate moderate turn and has a lot of variations. Plus, despite not scoring much in this test, he looked like a mature bat. If he is successful, perhaps we'll start getting new spinners outside the traditional SLA's. However, he needs the help of a good coach to develop. I hope that the management does not let him down.

MohammedC
November 18, 2012, 01:02 PM
http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=1605844#post1605844

should be merged

MohammedC
November 18, 2012, 01:04 PM
One hit wonder or not. The next video I am going to upload in BC's FB page will make you proud.

MohammedC
November 18, 2012, 01:57 PM
Go to this link if you have FB. Watch the video "impossible is nothing". Like it and share with friends.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BanglaCricketcom/110639668975754?ref=hl

Zeeshan
November 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
Brilliant work Bro! ^^^

Equinox
November 18, 2012, 02:23 PM
Go to this link if you have FB. Watch the video "impossible is nothing". Like it and share with friends.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BanglaCricketcom/110639668975754?ref=hl
Thanks a lot for sharing Mo bhai. :)

Everyone should watch this video.

MohammedC
November 18, 2012, 02:36 PM
Thanks Gopal and Equinox. When I saw this news it kind of brought tears in my eyes. Sohag will inspire many young kids to play cricket.

zsayeed
November 18, 2012, 02:56 PM
I was not posting for a while. But could not help myself when I saw this. Great Human Story! Thank You Mo Bhai!

MohammedC
November 18, 2012, 03:08 PM
I was not posting for a while. But could not help myself when I saw this. Great Human Story! Thank You Mo Bhai!

You are welcome Zulfiqer bhai. Occasional post is better than no post at all.

Tiger Manc
November 18, 2012, 03:42 PM
Great video! I was lmao at the should've gone to specsavers one. Couldn't stop laughing.

Ajfar
November 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
Thank for sharing Mo bhai, very inspiration story. All of our cricketer's come from different background, some fortunate others not so much. But every single one of their story is unique and heart warming.

cricbook
November 18, 2012, 06:35 PM
Proud parents.....Gazi hunt one more time in khulna ....this time...deer is yours......ar tigers for the sammys n co.(dura sammy....tiger ashlo.

Isnaad
November 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
Yet another example of- Chase your dreams; Success is bound to follow. Thanks for the share MoC bhai :)

Sohel
November 18, 2012, 11:49 PM
It's way too early to tell, but I sure hope he's a keeper.

jeesh
November 18, 2012, 11:55 PM
Yeah seems like a bowler who will really more on accuracy and consistency. In other words a traditional Bangladeshi spinner who waits for batsmen to make mistakes-Rafique, Shakib, Razzak all fall in this category. They bowl accurately, pin the batsmen down, frustrate them and wait for them to make mistakes. Sohag seems to fall in the same category.

I am still dreaming of seeing a Bangladeshi spinner who will beat batsmen with skill, and force dismissals rather than waiting for the batsman to make a mistake. It requires spinners with attacking mindset. Sth Warne, Murali, Kumble, Harbhajan, McGill, Vettori, Saqlain did. In modern day cricket you can see Swann, Ajmal, Ashwin, Herath do the same. And in form Shakib can force dismissals. Enamul is another bowler who can do that. This is where Saqlain Mushtaq can really help. Sohag seems to have the basics, now he must be taught to attack. And for that he needs to improve his armory with variation

Rifat
November 18, 2012, 11:59 PM
one point to note is that: Despite the rise of Shohag Gazi, we should not discard Elias Sunny since Elias Sunny has not performed poorly yet.

Rifat
November 19, 2012, 01:23 AM
I would compare Shohag Gazi to this guy:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/player/26421.html

He could be our version of Ravichandran Ashwin!

al Furqaan
November 19, 2012, 01:52 AM
Yeah seems like a bowler who will really more on accuracy and consistency. In other words a traditional Bangladeshi spinner who waits for batsmen to make mistakes-Rafique, Shakib, Razzak all fall in this category. They bowl accurately, pin the batsmen down, frustrate them and wait for them to make mistakes. Sohag seems to fall in the same category.

I am still dreaming of seeing a Bangladeshi spinner who will beat batsmen with skill, and force dismissals rather than waiting for the batsman to make a mistake. It requires spinners with attacking mindset. Sth Warne, Murali, Kumble, Harbhajan, McGill, Vettori, Saqlain did. In modern day cricket you can see Swann, Ajmal, Ashwin, Herath do the same. And in form Shakib can force dismissals. Enamul is another bowler who can do that. This is where Saqlain Mushtaq can really help. Sohag seems to have the basics, now he must be taught to attack. And for that he needs to improve his armory with variation

Part of that has ot do with captaincy...a bowler must be supported by the field setting. Against WI we often had one or even both batsman being new to crease and Gazi was bowling with a slip and silly point/short leg. Where where the other fielders? Same thing when we were bowling to Windies tail. No pressure...thank God Gazi still attacked the stumps and got his dismissals form clean bowlds and lbw. Thats pretty attacking because dancing down teh pitch or a good sweep shot could be a certain boundary on this flat track. He also flights the ball a lot according to CI commentary...wasn't really paying attention when I was watching. By contrast, Dhoni was setting 3 and 4 bat-pads for Ojha and Ashwin even when Cook and Prior had a triple digit partnership going. Bangladesh pulls all the fielders to save the boundary as soon as a batsman gets to 20. Is it any wonder that batsman have no problems scoring double tons against us? I mean why not just rest the 9 fielders and just have the bowler bowl to the wicket keeper?

When Sunny debuted last year...he produced several chances against WI in addition to the 7 wickets he ended up taking. Along with Enamul, we could have 4 possible strike spinners.

jeesh
November 19, 2012, 03:25 AM
Yeah correct al Furqan. Thats the word i was looking for-strike spin bowler. Someone who can beat batsman with turn, flight, arm ball, variation. Not someone who will profit from a mistimed heave or batsmans poor footwork, or simply benefit from assistance from the wickets. You are right about Sunny, who too can produce magical deliveries. Shakib was very capable of playing this role. Too much of KKR and T20 cricket has ruined his bowling. I reckon he wont even pick up a lot of wickets in FC like Enamul, and Razzak are doing. His bowling is too predictable and lacks venom

KaaL-PurusH
November 19, 2012, 05:33 AM
Yeah correct al Furqan. Thats the word i was looking for-strike spin bowler. Someone who can beat batsman with turn, flight, arm ball, variation. Not someone who will profit from a mistimed heave or batsmans poor footwork, or simply benefit from assistance from the wickets. You are right about Sunny, who too can produce magical deliveries. Shakib was very capable of playing this role. Too much of KKR and T20 cricket has ruined his bowling. I reckon he wont even pick up a lot of wickets in FC like Enamul, and Razzak are doing. His bowling is too predictable and lacks venom

I guess we have easy fix for this. If the bowlers swap their instinct with our batsmen then they will learn how to attack no matter what.

simon
November 19, 2012, 06:48 AM
now my respect and love for Gazi is even more.
thanks MOC bhai.
btw was wondering what if he had failed, we only get stories of those who succeed, why wasn't there any repprt on his background when he got the test cap ?were the journos waiting for him to shine ?
just askin...
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Tiger444
November 19, 2012, 09:55 AM
Wow what a story. Hopefully the young kids of Bangladesh get inspired by Sohag. Carry on man! You have a lot of potential to become a good player in international cricket. Just keep working hard and do your best.

AsifTheManRahman
November 19, 2012, 10:12 AM
now my respect and love for Gazi is even more.
thanks MOC bhai.
btw was wondering what if he had failed, we only get stories of those who succeed, why wasn't there any repprt on his background when he got the test cap ?were the journos waiting for him to shine ?
just askin...

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Because failures are for losers.

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MyRoom
November 19, 2012, 10:13 AM
Yeah! I totally agree that the young Sohag Gazi is a fantastic spin bowler we have found but he's not just another one of those SLA bowlers but a genuine good off spinner. I hope that after this test series is over, he'll be able to work on his bowling on the off-season and master inshaallah the Doosra and the Carrom ball from the spin legend. Its important we have the variety rather than just a group of SLA bowlers.

Nadim
November 19, 2012, 02:13 PM
"I started as a pace bowler but I wasn't that quick, so I took to offspin in my teens. My coach at the time said that my height will help me," Gazi told ESPNcricinfo. "I got a lot out of bowling offspin when I was younger, but I wanted to develop a weapon of my own so that everyone knows I am the one who created this delivery.

"I was a standby in age-group cricket for five years. I felt bad, which is natural for any cricketer who gets dropped or ignored.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/592061.html

AsifTheManRahman
November 19, 2012, 02:52 PM
Would be nice if that article could make an effort to expand on some of the difficulties he's had to face coming up the ranks. Just stating that he was from a small town and that he wasn't picked for the U-19 isn't enough. In fact, it makes it sound like he wasn't good enough.

The title gives it the kind of vibe that you would associate with the Md. Rafique story, but the details (or lack thereof) disappoint. For all I know, he sounds like he had a great life leading up to his Test debut.

Zeeshan
November 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
asif bhaio isamdar pise lagse shei kokhon theke.. :P

NoName
November 19, 2012, 04:04 PM
What is this 'weapon' he's talking about? I didn't watch when BD was bowling, seemed like he used it, got to check the highlights.

AsifTheManRahman
November 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
^ A delivery that doesn't turn, with no change in action. Many spinners have it, sounds pretty standard to me.

PS: Even Riyad can do it, i.e. not turn the ball without compromising his action. Ok, I kid.

Nadim
November 19, 2012, 04:27 PM
Watch the wicket of Peramaul and Best in the 2nd innings. Matches his description
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BD Tigers
November 19, 2012, 08:02 PM
Would be nice if that article could make an effort to expand on some of the difficulties he's had to face coming up the ranks. Just stating that he was from a small town and that he wasn't picked for the U-19 isn't enough. In fact, it makes it sound like he wasn't good enough.

The title gives it the kind of vibe that you would associate with the Md. Rafique story, but the details (or lack thereof) disappoint. For all I know, he sounds like he had a great life leading up to his Test debut.

Because Ananta Jalil bought his life story and will make a movie where he will act as Shohag Gazi with two pistols on his sides. When not getting wkts on a batting track, he will start shooting at the batsmen instead of bowling...:D

kidding aside..i do agree with u...hope we will know more abt his life in the future.

Tiger Manc
November 20, 2012, 07:21 AM
Sohag made his first class debut in 2010. That's gotta be one of the quickest first class-to-test debuts in recent times.

BANFAN
November 29, 2012, 11:21 PM
Great early break through being a spinner..... Covering up for Shakib's prime form performances with the ball...

simon
November 30, 2012, 12:27 AM
my word :clap:
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technocrews
November 30, 2012, 01:17 AM
congrats Gaji vai .. you are just awesome Today ....

Murad
November 30, 2012, 01:20 AM
Well done Gazi!! Best figure on debut in ODIs.

Figure: 9.5-2-29-4. Econ: 2.94. Bowled 42 dot balls.


:clap: :clap:

:bravo:

Tiger Manc
November 30, 2012, 01:28 AM
Well done Gazi!

BANFAN
November 30, 2012, 01:44 AM
Gazi now has the best figures by a Bangladesh bowler on debut in both Tests and ODIs.

Nocturnal
November 30, 2012, 05:06 AM
Sohag Gazi is the Man of the Match, on debut! :)

BANFAN
November 30, 2012, 05:09 AM
Congrats for being MOM on Debut...looking forward to see him getting settled in the team permanently with performance....

Maysun
November 30, 2012, 05:09 AM
A great start to both his Test and ODI career!

Well done on the Man of the Match, award! :clap:

Maysun
November 30, 2012, 05:10 AM
Well done Gazi!! Best figure on debut in ODIs.

Figure: 9.5-2-29-4. Econ: 2.94. Bowled 42 dot balls.


:clap: :clap:

:bravo:

:notworthy:

Nadim
November 30, 2012, 05:12 AM
This Boy is made of Gold:notworthy:

BANFAN
November 30, 2012, 05:13 AM
This Boy is made of Gold:notworthy:

Is he the official GoBoy now...?? :)

Rabz
November 30, 2012, 05:15 AM
Well done Gazi.
Congrats on your impressive debut.
He is here to stay.

mij
November 30, 2012, 05:19 AM
well done, continue never give up. hard time a head but stay focus.

Tiger Manc
November 30, 2012, 05:56 AM
Congratulations! Keep going.

Isnaad
November 30, 2012, 05:59 AM
It's amazing how we have started to get a set of very very useful players in our team. As Rabz bhai pointed out, Sohag Gazi is here to stay :)

Habib
November 30, 2012, 06:09 AM
Bhai janera aage kon Gazi doosra shikhse kina. Doosra na parle Saqlain er chakri not.

Kohli_Sox
November 30, 2012, 07:38 AM
this boy completely outperformed Narine both in Test and ODI

Ajfar
November 30, 2012, 07:59 AM
Hold on to this kid!! He is special. Hopefully he will take us to places we have yet to reach.

simon
November 30, 2012, 09:05 AM
Hold on to this kid!! He is special. Hopefully he will take us to places we have yet to reach.

like where? Gana? :p

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 09:06 AM
He is probably the best spinner in the world atm.
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roman
November 30, 2012, 09:27 AM
We should actually thank Saqlain Mushtaq. He trained him really well. Made him stronger and injected confidence in Gazi.

I hope Gazi can master Doosra. Carry on Gaziiiii

Sohel
November 30, 2012, 10:53 AM
Gazza's a keeper for sure. Stepped up big time in Shakib's absence and delivered the goods. I'm officially a convert now.

Tiger444
November 30, 2012, 10:56 AM
I know I've said this many times but just love the fact that we actually have a genuine offie now. He's a thinking bowler who actually flights and rips his deliveries rather than just rolling his fingers off the ball. With Mushtaq's expertise, he will continue to improve and hopefully one day becomes a world class spinner.

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 11:02 AM
Shakib/Rajjak ke khelte parcho na? Single niye onno dike jaiba? Kono labh nai, oi dik theke Gazza! tomare gola tippa marbe!

I think he will break Murali's record. He already loops and turns the ball more than Murali did at his peak, that too without chucking. Forget Shakib, Razzak, Enam, Sunny - we have a new shooperstar, a man who will rule the world of bowling, let alone spin bowling, with an iron fist for twenty years, *whip*ping sissy batters like they are his dadar barir gowal ghorer goru.

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 11:03 AM
Saeed Ajmal er bhaat shesh.

Purbasha T
November 30, 2012, 11:03 AM
Hold on to this kid!! He is special. Hopefully he will take us to places we have yet to reach.

Lol, we've grown old haven't we fellow Bluebirdian?

ialbd
November 30, 2012, 11:07 AM
Gazi's deliveries actually turn.... that alone is a differentiator in our team..

Rifat
November 30, 2012, 11:58 AM
Shakib/Rajjak ke khelte parcho na? Single niye onno dike jaiba? Kono labh nai, oi dik theke Gazza! tomare gola tippa marbe!

I think he will break Murali's record. He already loops and turns the ball more than Murali did at his peak, that too without chucking. Forget Shakib, Razzak, Enam, Sunny - we have a new shooperstar, a man who will rule the world of bowling, let alone spin bowling, with an iron fist for twenty years, *whip*ping sissy batters like they are his dadar barir gowal ghorer goru.

Sunnyr bhat marlo! bechara sunny...

BD Tigers
November 30, 2012, 12:47 PM
love his attitude..keep giving flights even after getting hit..also he's arm/doosra type ball is very good. love it. i believe we got a keeper in our team. Thank God!

simon
November 30, 2012, 12:50 PM
Saeed Ajmal er bhaat shesh.

ruti/paratha .........

Purbasha T
November 30, 2012, 02:19 PM
ruti/paratha .........

.. and gorur mangsho!

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 02:37 PM
Yak er Bangla ki?

Gowza
November 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
top performance on debut in ODIs!

Purbasha T
November 30, 2012, 04:01 PM
Yak er Bangla ki?

<font class='bangla'>ছিঃ!<font class='bangla'>

sharup
November 30, 2012, 04:13 PM
His maiden test and ODI wicket - Chris Gayle, one of the most explosive batsmen in the world right now. That alone will sky-rocket his confidence level. Well done Gazi. Keep it up.

M.H.Rubel
November 30, 2012, 04:28 PM
I am just waiting for a bowling line up of
mash + abul + S A H + Lalla + Gazza .
Palabe kothay. W I.

M.H.Rubel
November 30, 2012, 04:32 PM
Gazi imbibes Saqlain's
wisdom
The day before the first ODI against
West Indies, Sohag Gazi spent close
to an hour bowling at Saqlain
Mushtaq. The former Pakistan
offspinner stood behind one
stump, baseball mitt in one hand,
on the wicket next to the one
where the Bangladesh offspinner
would make his ODI debut.
Apart from the bowling, the only
other activity during the whole
exercise was when Saqlain moved
the markers. It happened only a
few times, to indicate what lines
and length to bowl when the
bowler switched to around the
wicket, but there was very little
exchange of words. It was clear
that the plans were set and had
been spelled out to the youngster,
who devotedly carried them out
the next day. . . . . .http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/story/594518.html

Eshen
November 30, 2012, 04:43 PM
I wish there were way to send him to play in Sri Lanka or India for a season, that would have accelerated his development.

jeesh
December 1, 2012, 02:11 AM
Sometimes it can backfire Eshen. Like how Enamul went to play in India and couldnt pick wickets. Was a huge blow to his confidence.

Gazi's development is accelerated enough. I bet 2-3 months ago he wouldnt even imagine the position he is in today. More time with Saqlain is essential. Also tournaments like BPL could aid in his development working with international players, coaches in pressure cooker matches.

BANFAN
December 1, 2012, 04:38 AM
I wish there were way to send him to play in Sri Lanka or India for a season, that would have accelerated his development.

That will only help those countries to pick him easily... If he is playing as a part of our national team then fine, otherwise all the local teams he plays with will only try to find out his secrets to play I'm better....they aren't going to help him be better....

BANFAN
December 2, 2012, 05:37 AM
And no appreciation for this boy...!! He keeps giving us important breakthroughs at the top to ensure our victory. Again a very good performance..... I can see him out performing Murali....:)

Waiting to see him outside BD...

Roey Haque
December 2, 2012, 05:43 AM
He's terrific. I only hope and pray he can keep it up and become a team mainstay like Tamim,Shakib and Nasir.

I'ma call him Showtime Shohag.

Tiger Manc
December 2, 2012, 05:46 AM
What a start to his ODI career! Like duck to water. 7 wickets in 2 matches. Keep it coming.

Shaan
December 2, 2012, 05:55 AM
Gazi we are so proud of you, you seems like right hand version of Shakib. But you deserve your own tag the Sohag Gazi :)

WarWolf
December 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
Way to go boy! Please remember it's just the start. You need to break many records.

mij
December 2, 2012, 10:07 AM
Gazi we are so proud of you, you seems like right hand version of Shakib. But you deserve your own tag the Sohag Gazi :)

:up::up::up:

When I said that some people here said I was waching worng game.

mij
December 2, 2012, 10:09 AM
And no appreciation for this boy...!! He keeps giving us important breakthroughs at the top to ensure our victory. Again a very good performance..... I can see him out performing Murali....:)

Waiting to see him outside BD...


:up:

It does seems he does work hard.

BANFAN
December 2, 2012, 10:09 AM
Can some one post video of Gazi's wickets?? Would love to see...

Gowza
December 2, 2012, 05:44 PM
seems to be real quality, as said takes top order wickets giving breakthroughs when we need them.

oronnya
December 2, 2012, 06:01 PM
seems to be real quality, as said takes top order wickets giving breakthroughs when we need them.

Yeah pure quality. I would love to see him becoming as lethal as Ajmal with his hard work someday.Which is very much possible the way he is going now.. :)

Nadim
December 8, 2012, 02:26 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/152400/152431.jpg

Find of the year. He got alot to offer with the bat too.

Equinox
December 8, 2012, 02:34 PM
Huge find for us! The biggest positive imo is that we've found him very young. Offies don't hit their peak until their late 20s/early 30s, look at Swann and Ajmal. So hopefully he'll have a very long shelf life and continue to get better and better.

oronnya
December 8, 2012, 02:47 PM
Yeah great find !!!! I like his batting... I do think he can be someone like Ashwin and will be very useful with the bat lower down the order.. A confident guy.. Liked that :up:

BANFAN
December 8, 2012, 03:25 PM
Impressed in Test, Impressed in ODIs and now looking forward to T20s. Pure diamond. ...:)
Keep working hard, a long way to go....crossing Murali is your target...that's quiet a Marathon.

mij
December 8, 2012, 03:30 PM
Impressed in Test, Impressed in ODIs and now looking forward to T20s. Pure diamond. ...:)
Keep working hard, a long way to go....crossing Murali is your target...that's quiet a Marathon.

:up::up::up: better bat.

Tiger444
December 8, 2012, 03:34 PM
Find of the series. We've been looking a long time for a specialist offie and finally found 1. Also a handy bat down the order. Full credit to the selectors for taking a gamble and selecting him over the likes of Sunny and Enamul.

Tiger Manc
December 8, 2012, 07:55 PM
Great find he looks like a keeper, handy with the bat too. Looks like this'll be the end of the 3 sla strategy.

WarWolf
December 9, 2012, 03:36 AM
Find of the year. :)

He got the ability to cross many milestones. Do it boy!

Antora
December 9, 2012, 03:38 AM
Awesome find for Bangladesh. Waiting to see how he performs in away matches.

al-Sagar
December 9, 2012, 12:01 PM
shohag has been the revolution. not only that he has done magic for BD, he has opened the eyes for all other teams on how to minimize the threat of gayle. teams around the world will see how gazil has kept gayle quiet and now will give the ball to their offies to open the bowling against gayle. offies around the world will look how shohag bowled and try to do the same against gayle.

Kabir
December 10, 2012, 12:06 AM
Great find, this Shohag guy is. His bowling figures are great, but I'm quite surprised to see him bat. He's got the right footwork, good hand-eye coordination, good looking strokes, and timing. He lacks in experience and temperament...and can be groomed to be a lower order dependable batsman. He should be groomed to hold the lower order together in case of a top/middle order collapse, and also add valuable runs if he's finishing off the game. That, in other words, will be magical.

deshimon
December 10, 2012, 03:52 AM
He keeps best bowling figures at debut in both Test and ODI among Bangladeshi players. I hope he can make it in T20I debut as well.

Gowza
December 11, 2012, 05:48 AM
he's a terrific find for BD, glad he was brought in when he was, he makes the BD spin attack very very strong.

Saifulsohel
December 11, 2012, 10:04 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/news/312585

NoName
December 11, 2012, 10:34 PM
He fits the description of an 'all-rounder' nicely, unlike Sunny who I kept hearing was an all-rounder but looked as if he couldn't hold a bat properly.

Rifat
December 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
He is my Rookie of the year.

BengaliPagol
December 13, 2012, 02:37 AM
I think he could even bat at #7 for us. Very handy with the bat.

oronnya
December 13, 2012, 09:03 AM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/news/312585

 গেইল বা অন্যরা আপনাকে স্লেজিং করেনি বা কথা শোনায়নি?
সোহাগ: নাহ্, আমিও কোনো কথা বলিনি। তবে তামিম ভাইকে গেইল অনেক স্লেজিং করত। তামিম ভাইও আবার গেইলকে বলতেন, ‘ওই যে সোহাগ আসছে।’ আর গেইল শুধু আমার দিকে তাকিয়ে হাসত, আমিও হাসতাম। পরে তো স্ট্রাইকও নিতে চায়নি আমার বলে। এটাও বড় একটা প্রাপ্তি।"

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 মাঠের বাইরের সোহাগ কেমন?
সোহাগ: আমি অনেক মজা করতে ভালোবাসি। বাংলাদেশের ড্রেসিং রুম এ জন্যই আমার খুব ভালো লেগেছে। মাশরাফি ভাই, মুশফিক ভাইয়েরা কিন্তু ড্রেসিং রুমে অনেক মজা করেন। মাঠে নামলে আবার সবাই অন্যরকম। অনেক জেদ, অনেক আবেগ। আমার তো বাংলাদেশের জার্সি পরলেই মনে হয় সত্যিকারের টাইগার হয়ে গেছি।

:notworthy::notworthy:

moneymoney
December 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
I think he could even bat at #7 for us. Very handy with the bat.

Lets change his name to 'Sohwag' Gazi and promote him to number 1 to open.

(those who don't like this idea - lets check this thread after two years)

MohammedC
December 24, 2012, 09:48 PM
[বাংলা]সোহাগ গাজী
প্রথম পাঁচ[/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]ক্রিকেট খেলে আয়

খুলনায় থাকার সময় খ্যাপ খেলে ৫০ টাকা পেয়েছিলাম। অনেক ছোট ছিলাম তখন। ৫০ টাকা পেয়েই দারুণ লাগত! আস্তে আস্তে ৩০০, ৫০০ টাকা পেতে লাগলাম। প্রথম বিভাগে প্রথম খেলে পেয়েছিলাম ২০ হাজার টাকা।

দেখা পাওয়া ক্রিকেট-আদর্শ

খুলনায় আমরা যেখানে থাকতাম, একটু দূরেই থাকতেন মঞ্জু ভাই (সাবেক বাঁহাতি পেসার মঞ্জুরুল ইসলাম)। মনে আছে, বাড়ির বাউন্ডারির দেয়ালের ওপর উঠে দেখেছিলাম মঞ্জু ভাইকে।

ক্রিকেট-জুতা

বাবা কিনে দিয়েছিলেন অনূর্ধ্ব-১৩ ক্রিকেটে খেলার সময়। ব্যাট, বল, প্যাডসহ সবকিছুই কিনে দিয়েছিলেন সেবার।

অটোগ্রাফ

দিয়েছি অনূর্ধ্ব-১৯ খেলার সময়। নিয়েছি গত বিপিএলে বরিশাল বার্নার্সে খেলার সময়। ক্রিস গেইলের অটোগ্রাফ নিয়েছিলাম ব্যাটে। এবার গেইলের অবশ্য এটা মনে ছিল না, তবে এখন নিশ্চয়ই আমাকে ভুলবে না!

স্লেজিংয়ের শিকার

অনূর্ধ্ব-১৫ জাতীয় ক্রিকেট খেলার সময়। তখন টেপটেনিসেই বেশ খেলতাম। প্রতিপক্ষের দু-একজন সেটা জানত। বলেছিল, টেপটেনিসের প্লেয়ার, ক্রিকেট-বলে পাত্তা পাবে না।
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http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2012-12-25/news/315279

Ajfar
December 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
Who asks players about what they earned for the first time? How is that even a professional question? Only in Bangladesh.

MohammedC
December 24, 2012, 10:13 PM
Who asks players about what they earned for the first time? How is that even a professional question? Only in Bangladesh.

Its quite common in our country. People dont hesitate to ask question like "Whats your salary? "

I was once like that when I first moved back from Bangladesh in my teen years. Feel weird about myself thinking of those days.

deshimon
December 25, 2012, 02:47 AM
Its quite common in our country. People dont hesitate to ask question like "Whats your salary? ".

They don't hesitate. They are curious to ask about salary. Normally their first question is about your work and second is salary. Then you will hesitate to answer but they are not.

Fazal
December 26, 2012, 09:00 PM
Some people (away from BD) stop asking directly about salary, their question is kind of indirect but the their intention remains same......

Apni kpthaye achen ? (manney apni kothey kaj kren)
Apni ki koren? (maney apner profession ki)
Apni apartment-e thaken naki single family bashaye thaken?
Apni ki bhara thaken naki nejer bashaye thaken?

They try to assess a new person before deciding if they will invite them or not.

mufi_02
March 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
its been a quiet series for him. He is bowling very flat. He should flight the ball more like he did against WI.

Habib
March 18, 2013, 11:42 AM
its been a quiet series for him. He is bowling very flat. He should flight the ball more like he did against WI.

Is it the influence of BPL I wonder.

SS
March 18, 2013, 12:19 PM
its been a quiet series for him. He is bowling very flat. He should flight the ball more like he did against WI.

hmm interesting...Saqlain chacha re jokon dorker thokon ar nai...ke jane hope he can give more flights tomorrow...but I am worried he wont have enough to defend

Rabz
March 18, 2013, 02:22 PM
With no other bowlers to give him decent support, this has been a tough series for Gazi despite being the highest wicket taker for Bangladesh so far. With Shakib, Enamul jnr or even Razzak bowling at other end, they could be bowled to a good plan and squeezed the juice out of this young and inexperienced Lankan batting order in the 2nd test. Now all they had to do is to negotiate him well enough in one end and milk runs at the other.

Inshallah, if our batsmen can set a target of around 250-300 runs for the Lankans to chase, I still believe he would be a destructive force on the 5th day pitch.

BANFAN
March 18, 2013, 02:46 PM
He really needed a good pressure from the other side....if the opponents can score freely from others, why would they take any risk in his bowling... We are making life difficult for him...

shakibrulz
March 18, 2013, 03:19 PM
Shakib could've made a whole lot of difference to his bowling figures, I feel. Can't blame him for his average performance this series.

Hopefully he doesn't throw it away tomorrow when he comes into bat too.

ms01
March 18, 2013, 03:22 PM
Missing Razzak! we could have easily bundled SL with both spinners bowling!

mufi_02
March 18, 2013, 04:04 PM
Is it the influence of BPL I wonder.

i think so. in the 1st innings he bowled very flat. even the wickets of herath and kula were like that.

Roey Haque
March 18, 2013, 07:13 PM
Can't blame him for his average performance this series.

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He wasn't average in my opinion. In terms of quality, you can see that he has the respect from the Sri lankan batsmen. Every time he starts his spell, he gives you the hope of a wicket. Fantastic find for the team.

If you want to blame someone, blame Abul who doesn't bowl with enough responsibility and seems very non-threatening. Or Robiul who better be more disciplined than what he has shown so far.

shakibrulz
March 19, 2013, 05:16 AM
He wasn't average in my opinion. In terms of quality, you can see that he has the respect from the Sri lankan batsmen. Every time he starts his spell, he gives you the hope of a wicket. Fantastic find for the team.

If you want to blame someone, blame Abul who doesn't bowl with enough responsibility and seems very non-threatening. Or Robiul who better be more disciplined than what he has shown so far.
Nah, was a bit off radar for a bowler of his quality. And I do rate him highly, he's an excellent find for Bangladesh. I have my reservations about Sunny despite him getting off to a better start, but Gazi is quality and adds more value to an otherwise one dimensional attack.

Abul, well I've said everything of him that I could, lets keep him out of this thread :-|

shakibrulz
March 19, 2013, 05:18 AM
That said, I do believe he can be much better than the slogger he thinks himself to be in all formats. Looks really good when he's out there, perhaps he can stop holing out and trust his own ability with the bat?

WindieFan
March 19, 2013, 11:40 AM
He was a little found out against SL imo, yes he might not have the greatest of bowlers around him but top class players make things happen regardless of who they have as support, Richard Hadlee was a one man army for years, and even your own Shakib has carried your attack on his own and performed, so that excuse doesn't wash with me.

I just think when he debuted against us he was a mystery to our batsmen, and when you don't know about someone you tend to take more risks than you should, case in point being Gayle hitting him for six first ball, but after our series the SL batsmen would have studied him and knew what to expect, hence he was ineffective.

He's got a lot to learn though and can still come good, the best spinners today were late bloomers i.e Swann, Ajmal and Hereth. Narine is in the same boat, he had a good series vs NZ and didn't do so well against you guys, it's all about how they bounce back now.

RazabQ
March 19, 2013, 11:51 AM
WindieFan, I can only gather you didn't watch the games but are going by highlights and stats. Gazil asked questions of the batsmen in every spell and his low economy rate reflects that the Lankans played him out. Even yesterday, with the match almost over and the Lankan batters pulling up shutters, he got Lahiru to offer silly point a chance, which didn't stick.

Sanga made a point of coming down the wicket only to his bowling because he knew otherwise Gazi would eat him up. If you'd watched Kumar's batting throughout the series, he played very low-risk cricket otherwise.

Stop trying to call sour grapes.

WindieFan
March 19, 2013, 12:07 PM
WindieFan, I can only gather you didn't watch the games but are going by highlights and stats. Gazil asked questions of the batsmen in every spell and his low economy rate reflects that the Lankans played him out. Even yesterday, with the match almost over and the Lankan batters pulling up shutters, he got Lahiru to offer silly point a chance, which didn't stick.

Sanga made a point of coming down the wicket only to his bowling because he knew otherwise Gazi would eat him up. If you'd watched Kumar's batting throughout the series, he played very low-risk cricket otherwise.

Stop trying to call sour grapes.

Razab, he can ask as many "questions" as he likes, but it all remains futile if he's not getting any answers!! :D . The boy was poor, and the stats reflect that, when Narine didn't perform against you guys in november did i try to hide the truth? no, i called it how it was.

Look more and more batsmen are gonna see Gazi and make plans for him, if he can't counter batsmen who "shut him out" then what future does he have? :facepalm: the smartest spinners find a way to get the breakthrough, Gazi just looked toothless out there and it doesn't bode well when the oppositions spinner bags a 7fer on the same track.

Excuses won't help young Sohag, he needs to get back in the nets and work with the spinner coach, thats the only way he's gonna get better.

BD Tigers
March 19, 2013, 12:11 PM
just like batting..bowling needs partnership...Gazi never got that in this series...the lankans are happy to see him off because they know that they cud score against the bowlers who were leaking runs like running water from 'wasa' pipe...if there were any bowler like Shakib or even Razzak, both of whom are cheap in leaking runs...i am sure Gazi wud have gotten wks or the other bowler wud...

al Furqaan
March 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
The boy was poor, and the stats reflect that, when Narine didn't perform against you guys in november did i try to hide the truth? no, i called it how it was.

How was he poor? Its the fielders job to take catches, and the umpires job to give the right decisions. Gazi took at least 3-4 wickets that were denied by the umpires, and a couple more that were dropped. As a bowler he did his job.

Narine, didn't CREATE any chances. Thats not called unlucky or unfortunate. When a bowler creates chances and they are taken and not given by the umpires due to incompetance or bias, thats called unlucky.

You can bowl bad and get wickets, and you can bowl well and not get that many depending on the day. You've got a lot to learn about cricket.

Look more and more batsmen are gonna see Gazi and make plans for him, if he can't counter batsmen who "shut him out" then what future does he have? :facepalm: the smartest spinners find a way to get the breakthrough, Gazi just looked toothless out there and it doesn't bode well when the oppositions spinner bags a 7fer on the same track.

Well it doesn't look great for Herath when Gazi took more wickets at a better average and strike rate on the Galle highway during the first Test! Consider yourself owned!

Excuses won't help young Sohag, he needs to get back in the nets and work with the spinner coach, thats the only way he's gonna get better.

The thing that is most hilarious is lets assume you're 100% correct for argument's sake. What does that say about the Windies batsman who got taken by Gazi, time and time again?

"Herath is a crap bowler (after he just took 14 wickets against us)."

WindieFan
March 19, 2013, 04:19 PM
How was he poor? Its the fielders job to take catches, and the umpires job to give the right decisions. Gazi took at least 3-4 wickets that were denied by the umpires, and a couple more that were dropped. As a bowler he did his job.
EXCUSES, he was getting hit all over the place at several stages of both tests, don't give me this "umpire" rubbish, as all the bowlers on show had to deal with them.



Narine, didn't CREATE any chances. Thats not called unlucky or unfortunate. When a bowler creates chances and they are taken and not given by the umpires due to incompetance or bias, thats called unlucky.
Yes he did, there was two clear lbw's that he should have had in the first test and also a couple of dropped catches in the second, but unlike some i didn't try to use it as an EXCUSE!! :down: .



You can bowl bad and get wickets, and you can bowl well and not get that many depending on the day. You've got a lot to learn about cricket.
And YOU CAN ALSO GET FOUND OUT, which Gazi was, no need to get upset over it, i'm sure he can come back stronger against lower opposition like Zim.



Well it doesn't look great for Herath when Gazi took more wickets at a better average and strike rate on the Galle highway during the first Test! Consider yourself owned!
LOL yeah, ONE WICKET was so much better compared to the EIGHT wicket difference between them in the second test right? ok!! :floor:



The thing that is most hilarious is lets assume you're 100% correct for argument's sake. What does that say about the Windies batsman who got taken by Gazi, time and time again?
He was a mystery to us, our batsmen didn't have a clue who he was or what he was about, and yet for all his wickets we still made tons of runs, 530 declared in the first test, and over 600 in the second test, and thats with Gayle failing in three out of four innings!! :) .

al Furqaan
March 19, 2013, 11:35 PM
EXCUSES, he was getting hit all over the place at several stages of both tests, don't give me this "umpire" rubbish, as all the bowlers on show had to deal with them.


All the Bangladeshi bowlers, yes. 

And yet his econ rate for the series is 3.24. Hardly expensive. When you bowl 117 overs, you will concede some boundaries here and there, especially on flat subcontinental tracks.

We're not talking about "all the bowlers" we're talking about Gazi. Gazi had 2-3 decisions go against him. And catches dropped off his bowling. None of those have anything to do with his bowling which is what we're discussing here. If you can't understand that, then I question the Caribbean education system.

24.4 Sohag Gazi to Sangakkara, no run, oh that was a very good shout for lbw! It was tossed up on the off and middle line and Sanga came forward to defend but played outside the line, hits the batsman on the knee roll, would have gone on to hit leg stump to me..Lucky Sanga

27.4 Sohag Gazi to Karunaratne, no run, ooooo! That was a good ball and Dimuth gets very lucky, he got a big inside edge on to his pads and the ball lobbed up straight in front of him, the fielder tried to dive to get there but it was just a feet away, very lucky

64.5 Sohag Gazi to Sangakkara, no run, oh my god! What have you done Mohammad Ashraful. Massive Massive DROP. Sanga came down the pitch, and tried to loft the ball over mid-on, didn't get hold of it at all and it was a dolly for Ash, and he just fluffed it. Like he was handling a piece of hot coal or something

31.4 Sohag Gazi to Chandimal, 1 run, another drop. Mahmudullah drops a simple chance at long-on. Come on one catch, just one catch..The batsman had charged down, but didn't get under the ball fully. These catches being dropped at Test level makes me pull my hair out

So right there thats 3 extra wickets for Gazi, not counting the near chance at 27.4. That would have brought his average down to a very respectable 38 given the flat track in Galle. Could Narine say the same thing in Bangladesh?

Yes he did, there was two clear lbw's that he should have had in the first test and also a couple of dropped catches in the second, but unlike some i didn't try to use it as an EXCUSE!! :down: .

Umm...terrible try Pinocchio but better luck next time. A quick glance at the CI commentary for the entire series reveals this:

126.2 Narine to Mahmudullah, no run, tosses up outside off, turns in big time, hits the pad and there is an appeal for lbw, but that was going down the leg side

9.1 Narine to Shahriar Nafees, no run, pushed through on the off, drifts in a bit and hits the pads as the batsman comes out to play forward defence. There is an appeal but that hit him outside the line

85.2 Narine to Abul Hasan, no run, loud appeal for a an lbw, but it seems to be pitching on off and going down the leg-side, difficult to give those out

But the way there were no dropped catches either in case you were wondering.

And YOU CAN ALSO GET FOUND OUT, which Gazi was, no need to get upset over it, i'm sure he can come back stronger against lower opposition like Zim.

Don't forget West Indies.

LOL yeah, ONE WICKET was so much better compared to the EIGHT wicket difference between them in the second test right? ok!! :floor:

But but but Gazi is an crappy bowler. Herath should outbowl him regardless, plus Gazi was bowling on a fresh highway first up.


He was a mystery to us, our batsmen didn't have a clue who he was or what he was about, and yet for all his wickets we still made tons of runs, 530 declared in the first test, and over 600 in the second test, and thats with Gayle failing in three out of four innings!! :) .

Wow just wow. Gazi took 12 wickets at 32.83 with both matches coming on ultra flat tracks. I suppose now you'll argue the nature of a wicket doesn't affect bowling outcomes, eh. The tons of runs were made against the entire attack as a whole, not against Gazi. Based on the averages, you'd have only made 328 if you batted against Gazi alone.

To further illustrate the immense stench of your verbal diarrhea figure this. Gazi bowled 129 overs in the Test series. A HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE FREAKIN OVERS! Thats more than an entire day of Test cricket. After watching him, WI batters still allowed Gazi to average 17.33 in the ODI series. And his econ rate was 3.39 so it wasn't as if the busters got out being overly aggressive.

Gazi is a decent bowler. Nothing great and I never said he was. Just give him his due or admit WI batted like minnows against him.

"Oh we didn't see him and didn't know what he was about." is the biggest excuse on earth. He's an off break bowler, with an orthodox action, and classical run up. What the hell is ambiguous about that?! If you can't figure out which way an offie turns the ball without seeing him bowl first, you need to stick to 100 m dashes, my friend.

During our last tour of ZIM we had never seen this guy Vitori...he ended up ravaging our lineup. Did I hide behind "oh he'll get found out against PAK and NZ"? Nope. I had no problem highlight his lethality against our left handers due to his swing and near perfect lines by stating "Vitori will rule our lefties..."

http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showpost.php?p=1371040&postcount=2454

RazabQ
March 20, 2013, 01:58 AM
You know this argument won't be settled until Shohag goes over to Windes and blows away your "clued-in" batters. So why don't we agree to disagree until then?

Cric Boss
March 20, 2013, 02:52 AM
Confused !

Dilscoop
March 20, 2013, 02:59 AM
Gazi > Narina or w/e that guy's name is w/ ugly *** mohawk.

WindieFan
March 20, 2013, 05:13 AM
All the Bangladeshi bowlers, yes.
LOL how do those SOUR GRAPES taste? be careful not to eat them pips now!! :D



And yet his econ rate for the series is 3.24. Hardly expensive. When you bowl 117 overs, you will concede some boundaries here and there, especially on flat subcontinental tracks.
It was only that low because in both tests he got beat up in the first innings and then bowled under 16 overs in the second innings, if he'd bowled two long spells he would have gone at over six in over probably.



We're not talking about "all the bowlers" we're talking about Gazi. Gazi had 2-3 decisions go against him. And catches dropped off his bowling. None of those have anything to do with his bowling which is what we're discussing here. If you can't understand that, then I question the Caribbean education system.

24.4 Sohag Gazi to Sangakkara, no run, oh that was a very good shout for lbw! It was tossed up on the off and middle line and Sanga came forward to defend but played outside the line, hits the batsman on the knee roll, would have gone on to hit leg stump to me..Lucky Sanga

27.4 Sohag Gazi to Karunaratne, no run, ooooo! That was a good ball and Dimuth gets very lucky, he got a big inside edge on to his pads and the ball lobbed up straight in front of him, the fielder tried to dive to get there but it was just a feet away, very lucky

64.5 Sohag Gazi to Sangakkara, no run, oh my god! What have you done Mohammad Ashraful. Massive Massive DROP. Sanga came down the pitch, and tried to loft the ball over mid-on, didn't get hold of it at all and it was a dolly for Ash, and he just fluffed it. Like he was handling a piece of hot coal or something

31.4 Sohag Gazi to Chandimal, 1 run, another drop. Mahmudullah drops a simple chance at long-on. Come on one catch, just one catch..The batsman had charged down, but didn't get under the ball fully. These catches being dropped at Test level makes me pull my hair out

So right there thats 3 extra wickets for Gazi, not counting the near chance at 27.4. That would have brought his average down to a very respectable 38 given the flat track in Galle. Could Narine say the same thing in Bangladesh?
LOL you're really crying over a few HALF CHANCES? :lol: even with "three extra wickets" he would have still had a poor tour, the fact is he was meant to be the Tigers new "spin sensation" and he got handled with relative ease by the Sri-lankan batsmen, no point trying to sugarcoat things and blame the umpires, the young man has a lot to learn, it's that simple.



Umm...terrible try Pinocchio but better luck next time. A quick glance at the CI commentary for the entire series reveals this:

126.2 Narine to Mahmudullah, no run, tosses up outside off, turns in big time, hits the pad and there is an appeal for lbw, but that was going down the leg side

9.1 Narine to Shahriar Nafees, no run, pushed through on the off, drifts in a bit and hits the pads as the batsman comes out to play forward defence. There is an appeal but that hit him outside the line

85.2 Narine to Abul Hasan, no run, loud appeal for a an lbw, but it seems to be pitching on off and going down the leg-side, difficult to give those out

But the way there were no dropped catches either in case you were wondering.

Erm this one was the dropped catch actually..

Narine to Shahriar Nafees,FOUR, edged! and that has gone between the keeper and the slip. The ball was flatter and the batsman played it off the back foot, the turn took it away and took the edge. Sammy, at slip, was going the other way and dived too late
Sammy somehow contrived to dive away from the ball when it was going straight at him, had he stayed still it was an easy catch at slip :-| .




Don't forget West Indies.
Nah, we're getting bored of EASY wins now thank you very much, time to take on the big boys again!! :) .



But but but Gazi is an crappy bowler. Herath should outbowl him regardless, plus Gazi was bowling on a fresh highway first up.
Hereth had Mendis at the other end, plus other bowlers were taking wickets aswell, yet Gazi could only take one more wicket than him!!....




Wow just wow. Gazi took 12 wickets at 32.83 with both matches coming on ultra flat tracks. I suppose now you'll argue the nature of a wicket doesn't affect bowling outcomes, eh. The tons of runs were made against the entire attack as a whole, not against Gazi. Based on the averages, you'd have only made 328 if you batted against Gazi alone.
The fact is when you needed him to deliver and break massive partnerships like the ones we had in the first innings of both tests he never turned up, the only time he came alive was when the track started to turn big time in our second innings of the first test in the last two days, and even then he got a GIFT when the umpire gave Chanders out when it was clearly going down legside, and yet you wanna moan about the umpires now? :floor:



To further illustrate the immense stench of your verbal diarrhea figure this. Gazi bowled 129 overs in the Test series. A HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE FREAKIN OVERS! Thats more than an entire day of Test cricket. After watching him, WI batters still allowed Gazi to average 17.33 in the ODI series. And his econ rate was 3.39 so it wasn't as if the busters got out being overly aggressive.
LOL now you wanna talk about the "ODI's"? Narine also bowled a ton of overs in the test series and yet HE STILL GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF WICKETS AS GAZI!!!..so come on smarty pants!!.. how do you explain that then? :facepalm:



Gazi is a decent bowler. Nothing great and I never said he was. Just give him his due or admit WI batted like minnows against him.
Erm NO!!.. "batting like minnows" is what your batsmen did against Hereth yesterday, here is what Gazi got against us in the second test after his 6fer in the first!!..

167/3 and 8/0... I'D SAY WE LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM THE FIRST TEST DON'T YOU? :D


"Oh we didn't see him and didn't know what he was about." is the biggest excuse on earth. He's an off break bowler, with an orthodox action, and classical run up. What the hell is ambiguous about that?! If you can't figure out which way an offie turns the ball without seeing him bowl first, you need to stick to 100 m dashes, my friend.
LOL keep baiting and taking your CHEAP SHOTS, i'm too grown to fall for your toddler games, SORRY!! :wave:, furthermore Narine played NZ in a test series last year and ran through them, they hadn't seen much of him either, SEE THE PATTERN? i won't be holding my breath!!...



During our last tour of ZIM we had never seen this guy Vitori...he ended up ravaging our lineup. Did I hide behind "oh he'll get found out against PAK and NZ"? Nope. I had no problem highlight his lethality against our left handers due to his swing and near perfect lines by stating "Vitori will rule our lefties..."
No, Vitori ran through you because YOUR BATSMEN CAN'T HANDLE PACE, just like they couldn't handle Fidel Edwards in November AGAIN..yet he hasn't played a single test for us since and isn't even a reserve anymore!! :) .

al Furqaan
March 20, 2013, 02:09 PM
LOL how do those SOUR GRAPES taste? be careful not to eat them pips now!! :D


Not really sour grapes. Indians got rid of Steve Bucknor for his atrocious umpiring which was tilted against them. Sri Lankans and Pakistanis had similar reservations about Daryl Harper.

For us the list is longer. Ashoka de Silva, Peter Parker, Enamul Haque, you get the point.


It was only that low because in both tests he got beat up in the first innings and then bowled under 16 overs in the second innings, if he'd bowled two long spells he would have gone at over six in over probably.

Are all West Indians this mathematically challenged? Ever hear of a weighted average? If he only bowled 16 tight overs, his overall economy rate should be HIGH.

Let me break it down. 16 overs at 2 an over and 40 overs at 10 an over will yield an overall economy rate much closer to 10, Leibniz.


LOL you're really crying over a few HALF CHANCES? :lol: even with "three extra wickets" he would have still had a poor tour, the fact is he was meant to be the Tigers new "spin sensation" and he got handled with relative ease by the Sri-lankan batsmen, no point trying to sugarcoat things and blame the umpires, the young man has a lot to learn, it's that simple.

An average of 38 for a spinner against subcontinent teams is actually highly solid. Check Murali's average vs India, and check Harbajan's average vs Asian teams. 38 will all of a sudden look pretty good.



Erm this one was the dropped catch actually..


Sammy somehow contrived to dive away from the ball when it was going straight at him, had he stayed still it was an easy catch at slip :-| .

Umm a dropped catch indicates that a hand was there and the catch not taken. Based on your definition, Bangladesh dropped tons of catches because our fielders at deep square leg would also have taken catches had they just been position at long off when the ball was hit there.


Nah, we're getting bored of EASY wins now thank you very much, time to take on the big boys again!! :) .

And we're getting tired of home series wins against WI and NZ.

Hereth had Mendis at the other end, plus other bowlers were taking wickets aswell, yet Gazi could only take one more wicket than him!!....

Herath bowled the same number of overs as Gazi. And that argument actualyl goes in favor of Gazi since its harder to take wickets if you're the only bowler creating pressure. Herath was able to bowl to the tail, Gazi was not.


The fact is when you needed him to deliver and break massive partnerships like the ones we had in the first innings of both tests he never turned up, the only time he came alive was when the track started to turn big time in our second innings of the first test in the last two days, and even then he got a GIFT when the umpire gave Chanders out when it was clearly going down legside, and yet you wanna moan about the umpires now? :floor:

The track never started to turn. Gazi has never been a big turner of the ball. You also need to refresh your memory, that chanders wicket was not going down the leg side. Chanders is a LHB for god's sake...the ball impacted outside the line of OFF, but I believe Chanders didn't offer a shot. If its hitting the stumps that is out 100% of the time. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the rule book.


LOL now you wanna talk about the "ODI's"? Narine also bowled a ton of overs in the test series and yet HE STILL GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF WICKETS AS GAZI!!!..so come on smarty pants!!.. how do you explain that then? :facepalm:

Simple, I never said Narine was "found out" or other such excuses.

Erm NO!!.. "batting like minnows" is what your batsmen did against Hereth yesterday, here is what Gazi got against us in the second test after his 6fer in the first!!..

167/3 and 8/0... I'D SAY WE LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM THE FIRST TEST DON'T YOU? :D

Perhaps. But then why did you struggle against him in the ODI series? I mean was 130 overs not enough to "find him out" for the first ODI?

LOL keep baiting and taking your CHEAP SHOTS, i'm too grown to fall for your toddler games, SORRY!! :wave:, furthermore Narine played NZ in a test series last year and ran through them, they hadn't seen much of him either, SEE THE PATTERN? i won't be holding my breath!!...

Actually NZ are the weakest top side when it comes to batting against spin. They're actually worse at it than we are and only slight better than Zimbabwe.

No, Vitori ran through you because YOUR BATSMEN CAN'T HANDLE PACE, just like they couldn't handle Fidel Edwards in November AGAIN..yet he hasn't played a single test for us since and isn't even a reserve anymore!! :) .

Care to see Tino Best's figures against us in WI? How about Roach's in BD?

Vitori only ran through our lefties also because of the particular line and type of movement he was getting. If it was just his pace than he'd have had the same success against right handers. Btw, he only bowls around 135.

Gowza
March 20, 2013, 05:08 PM
wow this just keeps going on. gazi is a good prospect, he's still young, still learning, most likely not at his best yet. narine is a good prospect to but of course with the style he bowls he's going to be compared to someone like mendis who has been badly found out, narine hasn't had the best start in tests but like gazi he's a good prospect, he's still young, still learning.

comparing gazi to herath, well gazi is at the beginning of his career herath is at the end of his career so herath is pretty much the package atm, gazi is still working on that.

al Furqaan
March 20, 2013, 10:19 PM
wow this just keeps going on. gazi is a good prospect, he's still young, still learning, most likely not at his best yet. narine is a good prospect to but of course with the style he bowls he's going to be compared to someone like mendis who has been badly found out, narine hasn't had the best start in tests but like gazi he's a good prospect, he's still young, still learning.

comparing gazi to herath, well gazi is at the beginning of his career herath is at the end of his career so herath is pretty much the package atm, gazi is still working on that.

I don't think Windiefan was on about comparing Gazi to Narine or Herath or anyone else. I think he was about Gazi being found out by the Windies as the tour progressed and Gazi being crap against Lanka. However facts show that Gazi took 6 WI wickets in the 2nd innings after they had already seen him bowl in the first innings. Found out? Yeah they found out how to get out. Then after watching him bowl 130 overs in the Test series, they found out how to give him a debut 4 fer in the ODIs. Just like Brian Vitori was "found out" against us when he became the first guy to take 5 fers in his first two ODIs :floor:.

This is the same guy who thought WI were depleted since Charles Woodson and Ramdin and Bravo Sr weren't playing in Bangladesh. Forgot to realize that Imrul Kayes averages almost twice as much as Ramdin, and that there are dozen all rounders better than Bravo.

Gowza
March 20, 2013, 10:26 PM
I don't think Windiefan was on about comparing Gazi to Narine or Herath or anyone else. I think he was about Gazi being found out by the Windies as the tour progressed and Gazi being crap against Lanka. However facts show that Gazi took 6 WI wickets in the 2nd innings after they had already seen him bowl in the first innings. Found out? Yeah they found out how to get out. Then after watching him bowl 130 overs in the Test series, they found out how to give him a debut 4 fer in the ODIs. Just like Brian Vitori was "found out" against us when he became the first guy to take 5 fers in his first two ODIs :floor:.

This is the same guy who thought WI were depleted since Charles Woodson and Ramdin and Bravo Sr weren't playing in Bangladesh. Forgot to realize that Imrul Kayes averages almost twice as much as Ramdin, and that there are dozen all rounders better than Bravo.

i don't think gazi has played enough for anyone to say he's been found out, he's played 10 international matches to-date, that's across all 3 formats. besides, he took 3 wickets in the first test match and 4 in the 2nd, not amazing but pretty solid, if he continues to do that then he'll be a pretty decent international spinner. he's not played much around the world so still needs to experience those conditions and learn.

al Furqaan
March 20, 2013, 10:27 PM
i don't think gazi has played enough for anyone to say he's been found out, he's played 10 international matches to-date, that's across all 3 formats. besides, he took 3 wickets in the first test match and 4 in the 2nd, not amazing but pretty solid, if he continues to do that then he'll be a pretty decent international spinner. he's not played much around the world so still needs to experience those conditions and learn.

Shh...don't let him know that. Johnson Chucky is supposedly Bradman's 5th avatar.

WindieFan
March 21, 2013, 02:21 AM
Not really sour grapes. Indians got rid of Steve Bucknor for his atrocious umpiring which was tilted against them. Sri Lankans and Pakistanis had similar reservations about Daryl Harper.

For us the list is longer. Ashoka de Silva, Peter Parker, Enamul Haque, you get the point.
Again..EXCUSES..EXCUSES..EXCUSES!!.. why on earth would an umpire conspire against little Bangladesh? WHAT WOULD THEY GAIN EXACTLY? :facepalm:



Are all West Indians this mathematically challenged? Ever hear of a weighted average? If he only bowled 16 tight overs, his overall economy rate should be HIGH.

Let me break it down. 16 overs at 2 an over and 40 overs at 10 an over will yield an overall economy rate much closer to 10, Leibniz.
Goodness me there he goes again making snide comments because his argument is feeble!! :-/ , bottom line is Gazi got murdered in BOTH of his first innings and could only muster up WICKET in the second innings of both tests when his team needed him the most, FULL STOP.



An average of 38 for a spinner against subcontinent teams is actually highly solid. Check Murali's average vs India, and check Harbajan's average vs Asian teams. 38 will all of a sudden look pretty good.
Not in todays climate!!..when Swann and Monty are going to India and DOMINATING the batsmen then you know things have changed, get with the times please and stop making excuses.



Umm a dropped catch indicates that a hand was there and the catch not taken. Based on your definition, Bangladesh dropped tons of catches because our fielders at deep square leg would also have taken catches had they just been position at long off when the ball was hit there.
Sammy's chance was clear cut though, it was waist high and heading straight towards him and he stupidly dive the wrong way, to me thats as good a chance as any dropped catch.



And we're getting tired of home series wins against WI and NZ.

Yeah, two in your whole history, brilliant!!



Herath bowled the same number of overs as Gazi. And that argument actualyl goes in favor of Gazi since its harder to take wickets if you're the only bowler creating pressure. Herath was able to bowl to the tail, Gazi was not.
Rubbish, Hereth had more competition and hence took less wickets, Gazi on the other hand had the whole stage to himself but failed to deliver, like i said no need to cry over it, i'm sure the boy will perform against Zimbabwe.



The track never started to turn. Gazi has never been a big turner of the ball. You also need to refresh your memory, that chanders wicket was not going down the leg side. Chanders is a LHB for god's sake...the ball impacted outside the line of OFF, but I believe Chanders didn't offer a shot. If its hitting the stumps that is out 100% of the time. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the rule book.
LOL now you're trying to justify a clear BAD DECISION just because it suits your argument? :lol: don't ever try to diss the umpires again please!!.. it's obvious your motives are biased in the extreme!!.



Simple, I never said Narine was "found out" or other such excuses.
It's up to you how you wanna judge Narine, i'm not telling you what to say, i'm saying Gazi got found out, it's up to him to prove me wrong.



Perhaps. But then why did you struggle against him in the ODI series? I mean was 130 overs not enough to "find him out" for the first ODI?
No, not "perhaps", he did get handled pretty easily in the second test, as for the ODI's, different game, which is why Narine was able to come back and take nine wickets despite not doing anything in the tests.



Actually NZ are the weakest top side when it comes to batting against spin. They're actually worse at it than we are and only slight better than Zimbabwe.
I don't think so, last year they actually WON a test in SL against Hereth and co, so i think you just owned yourself right there!! :D



Care to see Tino Best's figures against us in WI? How about Roach's in BD?
Why not Roach in WI and Best in BD? :floor:

al Furqaan
March 21, 2013, 01:10 PM
Goodness me there he goes again making snide comments because his argument is feeble!! :-/ , bottom line is Gazi got murdered in BOTH of his first innings and could only muster up WICKET in the second innings of both tests when his team needed him the most, FULL STOP.


Gazi had a series economy rate of 3.24 runs per over. That is a very average economy rate. He was neither miserly, nor was he expensive. He routinely created edges and other chances. He could bowl far worse than he did in this series and walk away with a couple of 5-fers and possibly even a 10 wicket haul. Thats cricket.


Not in todays climate!!..when Swann and Monty are going to India and DOMINATING the batsmen then you know things have changed, get with the times please and stop making excuses.

Since when does a single series determine the "times" or today's "climate"? If a single series is all you need, then Shahadat Hossain is a far more lethal bowler than Dale Steyn based on the 2008 series in Bangladesh. Swann and Monty's performance was an anomaly and the reason why England hasn't won in India in over 20 years before that.

Sammy's chance was clear cut though, it was waist high and heading straight towards him and he stupidly dive the wrong way, to me thats as good a chance as any dropped catch.

Certainly a fair point, but Gazi did that a few more times in Lanka.





LOL now you're trying to justify a clear BAD DECISION just because it suits your argument? :lol: don't ever try to diss the umpires again please!!.. it's obvious your motives are biased in the extreme!!.

The decision may have been iffy, but the ball was going on to hit middle stump and Chanders made the mistake of not offering a shot.


It's up to you how you wanna judge Narine, i'm not telling you what to say, i'm saying Gazi got found out, it's up to him to prove me wrong.

Lets say he does prove you wrong, will you be around to admit it?

No, not "perhaps", he did get handled pretty easily in the second test, as for the ODI's, different game, which is why Narine was able to come back and take nine wickets despite not doing anything in the tests.

Gazi took 9 wickets as well and against better batsman. That was after the batsman had a 130 overs to analyze his simple bowling style.

I don't think so, last year they actually WON a test in SL against Hereth and co, so i think you just owned yourself right there!! :D

We're talking about overall.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=1;filter=advan ced;groupby=opposition;orderby=bowling_average;spa nmin1=01+jan+1990;spanval1=span;template=results;t ype=bowling

If you look at that you will see that NZ and WI are the worst of the top sides against spin bowling in recent decades. India is the best. Not surprising except probably to you.

tanvir_nus
March 21, 2013, 10:01 PM
Has anyone noticed that he actually bats good? He hasn't scored much runs but his batting has kind of impressed me. Plays with a straight bat and has a good temperment. If he works on it he might be a very good alrounder and I don't say that lightly.

RazabQ
March 21, 2013, 11:24 PM
Asaad you do realize you are being trolled by WindieFan? Let him think Gazi's been "found out". He can keep thinking that all the way to Gazi getting a few pheiffer's against them.
And he can keep thinking we'll crumble against the Zim pacers as well.

In fact he can keep thinking whatever he wants. :)

al Furqaan
March 22, 2013, 08:44 AM
Asaad you do realize you are being trolled by WindieFan? Let him think Gazi's been "found out". He can keep thinking that all the way to Gazi getting a few pheiffer's against them.
And he can keep thinking we'll crumble against the Zim pacers as well.

In fact he can keep thinking whatever he wants. :)

troll toll bujhi na...I have a lot of free time on my hands now, lol!

oronnya
March 22, 2013, 09:19 AM
Asaad you do realize you are being trolled by WindieFan? Let him think Gazi's been "found out". He can keep thinking that all the way to Gazi getting a few pheiffer's against them.
And he can keep thinking we'll crumble against the Zim pacers as well.

In fact he can keep thinking whatever he wants. :)

Exactomo !!!

Nadim
March 22, 2013, 09:26 AM
Swag Gazi Odi te fataia felbo :D

RazabQ
March 22, 2013, 11:34 AM
troll toll bujhi na...I have a lot of free time on my hands now, lol!
spend it on something worthwhile ... like searching for a hobu

al Furqaan
March 22, 2013, 07:17 PM
spend it on something worthwhile ... like searching for a hobu

hobu kita?

BengaliPagol
April 18, 2013, 07:06 AM
It's way too early but im getting worried that he might be a flash in the pan. I really hope that's not the case.

jeesh
April 18, 2013, 09:11 AM
Nah the wicket wasnt helpful and he was underutilized. Mushfiq seems to have forgotten about Gazi after getting Enam.

al Furqaan
April 18, 2013, 09:14 AM
Nah the wicket wasnt helpful and he was underutilized. Mushfiq seems to have forgotten about Gazi after getting Enam.

Enam was getting it to kick and spit on occaision in the same conditions. That being said, Gazi did about the best he could 2-55 in the limited opportunities he got to bowl. He's bowled a lot in his career so far.

Jadukor
April 18, 2013, 09:44 AM
Gazi and Nasir are the main contributors for our recent success. He is no fluke and i am sure he will prove it in the 2nd innings

Dilscoop
April 18, 2013, 10:12 AM
Gazi became the 2nd spinner after Enam walked in. Clueless Rahim. Typical SLA based captaincy...

Equinox
April 18, 2013, 10:35 AM
Gazi became the 2nd spinner after Enam walked in. Clueless Rahim. Typical SLA based captaincy...
Or maybe because all of the batsmen in this Zimbabwe XI are RHBs and Enam simply bowled better and was the more threatening of the two spinners?

riajul
April 18, 2013, 10:38 AM
Culprit Rahim. He didnt bowl bad than Enam in small opportunities he got.
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shakibrulz
April 18, 2013, 10:43 AM
A bit weird, but understandable. Probably he was bowling Enam since the batting lineup is dominated by right handers. Not stupid, but probably not the greatest idea.

PS: Didn't see the match, so can't comment on the threatening part.

Tiger444
April 18, 2013, 10:45 AM
Honestly I can't blame Sohag and can't blame the fact that 2 spinners were brought in. Our pacers are very unpredictable so it was understandable that we had 2 spinners but on this wicket, we could see it was very hard for the spinners to get any sort of turn and plus Zimbabwe is dominated with right handers.

Fazal
April 18, 2013, 10:46 AM
A good player survives good days as well as bad days; but when opportunity comes he takes full advantage ofthe opportunity.

It's too early to tell tell how the player .... gazi will turn out, but there is no reason to worry.

In this particular TEST, its the 2nd innings is where he is expected to dominate.

betaar
April 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
As a lot of you already mentioned, Gazi wasn't used much due to the lack of lefties in the Zim 11. He may still ended up being better bowler than his stat suggests had he got the opportunity to bowl a long spell. For a lot of spinners when things don't work our right away they set the batsmen up by making plan by bowling long spells. However, in Mushy's defense, he probably didn't want to hand out the initiative to Zim batters by leaking runs through Gazi.

Night_wolf
April 18, 2013, 11:11 AM
A good player survives good days as well as bad days; but when opportunity comes he takes full advantage ofthe opportunity.

It's too early to tell tell how the player .... gazi will turn out, but there is no reason to worry.

In this particular TEST, its the 2nd innings is where he is expected to dominate.

why is that?..i missed most of the 2days play

Fazal
April 18, 2013, 11:51 AM
why is that?..i missed most of the 2days play

I also didn't watched most of the 1st two days... some here and some there. I made that statement based on the assumption that: the spinner will play more dominent role (if any) in the 4th and/or 5th days when/if pitch detoriates. And at that time (2nd innings) he will have more opportunity to show his value.

Gowza
April 18, 2013, 05:08 PM
good bowler this gazi is. reckon he should have been used more, i reckon he's a thinking bowler and if we want him to be able to bowl well to both lefties and righties then he should be bowling to both kinds and what better team to do that against than zimbabwe? i really don't want him to become one of those bowlers who is selected or bowled based on who is playing in the opposition, i want him to be able to bowl to all kinds of batsman, i reckon he has it in him.

Dilscoop
April 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
Or maybe because all of the batsmen in this Zimbabwe XI are RHBs and Enam simply bowled better and was the more threatening of the two spinners?

I honestly don't get this logic. And I've been hearing it a lot. Explain this explanation to me. What a Offie can't bowl to a RHB? Are Offies ineffective vs RHB? Who came up with that theory.

Bowl doesn't have to turn away from the batsmen to pick up wickets. I'm confused.

Gowza
April 18, 2013, 05:20 PM
I honestly don't get this logic. And I've been hearing it a lot. Explain this explanation to me. What a Offie can't bowl to a RHB? Are Offies ineffective vs RHB? Who came up with that theory.

Bowl doesn't have to turn away from the batsmen to pick up wickets. I'm confused.

most successful spinner statistically ever was a right handed offspin bowler like gazi so people can think what they want but offies can be effective against anyone. actually what's good about them to right handers is that they're always attacking the stumps.

Jadukor
April 18, 2013, 08:03 PM
I honestly don't get this logic. And I've been hearing it a lot. Explain this explanation to me. What a Offie can't bowl to a RHB? Are Offies ineffective vs RHB? Who came up with that theory.

Bowl doesn't have to turn away from the batsmen to pick up wickets. I'm confused.

Yeah, no excuse for under utilizing Gazi simply because of RHB. Swann is a good example of how a traditional off spinner can be effective against all sides.When the balll is turning in you can set attacking fields like short leg for the bat-pad catch and still keep the slip for the arm ball. There is no reason for an offie to not be able to bowl to RHB but it's just that the field needs to be set a bit differently to cut out the angles.

al Furqaan
April 18, 2013, 09:26 PM
Yeah, no excuse for under utilizing Gazi simply because of RHB. Swann is a good example of how a traditional off spinner can be effective against all sides.When the balll is turning in you can set attacking fields like short leg for the bat-pad catch and still keep the slip for the arm ball. There is no reason for an offie to not be able to bowl to RHB but it's just that the field needs to be set a bit differently to cut out the angles.

Mushy won't do that tho. He'll just stick a slip and silly point and think the HaBa school of Test captaincy is great.

Dilscoop
April 18, 2013, 09:27 PM
I wrote extra ishmat and wrote BOWL. It's bother me!

jeesh
April 27, 2013, 01:36 AM
A little out of song? Doesnt seem to be in the game. Perhaps too tired with the hectic schedules.

Gowza
April 27, 2013, 06:10 AM
still the 2nd best bowler in the team.

ahnaf
April 27, 2013, 06:21 AM
Lucky performance.. :p hope this will inspire him to bowl better in the next innings.. Cant expect to get wickets everyday by this kind of bowling..
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al-Sagar
April 27, 2013, 06:23 AM
took 4 wickets and got the important ones of Taylor and Waller, meth and jarvis

firstlane
April 27, 2013, 09:44 PM
I think he got lucky in this test. 3 out of 4 wickets he got came from ordinary balls. Robiul softened the batsmen and Gazi reaped the benefits from it. That's how it should work. This is why its so important to have a balanced bowling attack.

Jadukor
April 27, 2013, 11:22 PM
The consistensy in length was missing from both gazi and shakib. Perhaps he is tired from the last series where he single handedly carried our attack through the test series. Mushy also didn't help his rythm by keeping him waiting for 30 odd overs before introducing him for the first time.

jeesh
April 29, 2013, 11:12 PM
Thats what i was also thinking. Perhaps he is getting used to the life of an international cricketer. Its been hectic-BPL, Sri Lanka, and now Zimbabwe.