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kumar89
November 14, 2012, 10:43 AM
BCB needs to find a head coach soon. Who do you guys think, who should be made head coach and how should the process be this time around. And has any got information about what is happening or what BCB is planning to do about Coach Hunt? Has anyone got a list of coach’s that are free or available at the moment?

kumar89
November 14, 2012, 10:48 AM
it was rumoured that after the performance in world cup T20 some coach's were supposed to be sacked or relieved of duty. its strange as the rumoured person is the interim head coach now.

AsifTheManRahman
November 16, 2012, 09:15 AM
I think it's safe to say now that Shane Jurgensen is the best head coach - and after the flurry of wickets last night, the best bowling coach - we've hired in a while. We've gone through several rotations of coaches recently when the best man for the job was right in front of our eyes. We should stick to him and maybe hire Pont as assistant/batting coach.
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Habib
November 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
^Nah ATMR is in his own league.

Ian Pont
November 16, 2012, 10:07 AM
I think it's safe to say now that Shane Jurgensen is the best head coach - and after the flurry of wickets last night, the best bowling coach - we've hired in a while. We've gone through several rotations of coaches recently when the best man for the job was right in front of our eyes. We should stick to him and maybe hire Pont as assistant/batting coach.
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Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role

Nadim
November 16, 2012, 10:08 AM
Make Mustaque our HC
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Jumon
November 16, 2012, 10:26 AM
We don't need to hire any coach.That so called batting coach's are useless.all the Pybus-bypus are a waste.We are doing well without batting coach.BCB Should appoint Jurgensen as a Permanent Head Coach.Former coach Law also suggested his name to appoint as HC.
Otherwise,Mohammad Ashraful is a good choice for the post.
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Shubho
November 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
Based on the comments on this thread so far, I am really glad that cricket fans don't get to choose our next head coach. To be sure, the BCB is no good at selecting a coach either, but the level of discourse in this thread is appalling.

My two cents: Hire someone with solid coaching qualifications (e.g. appropriate licenses and many years of experience coaching all levels), NOT a superstar coach or one that was a really good player. Someone who will reside in Bangladesh for the duration of his contract. Someone affordable. Someone NOT from the Subcontinent, particularly not an Indian or Pakistani, because they have a weird superiority complex when it comes to Bangladeshis.

Rick McInnes fits the bill. So does Ian Pont. And Mick Newell. And countless others. I don't understand our fixation with former superstar players. Just because they had stellar playing careers does not mean they know squat about coaching.

In the end, we probably need to be less worried about the head coach of the national team than about the coaching staff at club and regional levels. How cool would it be if we could have a mix of qualified foreign coaches guiding teams like Chittagong, Rangpur or Sylhet in the NCL? Heck, it would be cool if we could have foreign input into cricket academies up and down the country.

Dilscoop
November 16, 2012, 11:42 AM
We're better of w/o one.

AsifTheManRahman
November 16, 2012, 03:21 PM
Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role
Thanks coach, you're the best. I'm sure you can turn Ashraful into a more refined, top order version of Naeem and solve our second opener problem for good.

Ian Pont
November 16, 2012, 04:49 PM
Thanks coach, you're the best. I'm sure you can turn Ashraful into a more refined, top order version of Naeem and solve our second opener problem for good.

Thanks Asif. The Pakistani fans said the same about Imran Nazir and finding a way to get him playing well too. Anamul really blossomed, Mash and Elias Sunny bowled superbly as did MH Rubel. In NZ and Zim series Shafiul previously responded well, Rubel, Nazmul and many others... even Abdur Razzak was almost beating records in 2010 when I was bowling coach (covering spin,too as Saluddin had left months before).

Whether this is about me or not is a moot point. I am always flattered that people say nice things about making a difference very quickly.

What's interesting is we allow coaches "a year or two" to settle in, yet I have always felt you can make positive impacts MENTALLY in a short time. And this is where I feel a coach has most to offer in Bangladesh.

I totally understand Ash, by the way. Even if you were slightly joking in your point, he really does need someone to help him and back him. And like him or loathe him, Rocky is exactly the same.

I don't think I will ever work for the Bangladesh National Team again, but I always enjoy my time spent in Bangladesh.

Shaun petr
November 16, 2012, 05:04 PM
Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role

Not again Ashrafoooll......not again plz.....the guy who failed again and again is going to fail again........we whitewashed NZ ash was not in the team, we runnerup in Asia cup Ash was not in the team, After sudden success we bring back this moron and badluck is going to play his role without any difficulties.

<<<<<<SAY NO TO ASHRAFOOL>>>>>>>> FOR GOD SAKE:ohno:

BengaliPagol
November 16, 2012, 05:12 PM
Darren Lehmann wouldnt be a bad option either. He is known as a tactical coach.

Tiger444
November 16, 2012, 09:56 PM
Thanks Asif. The Pakistani fans said the same about Imran Nazir and finding a way to get him playing well too. Anamul really blossomed, Mash and Elias Sunny bowled superbly as did MH Rubel. In NZ and Zim series Shafiul previously responded well, Rubel, Nazmul and many others... even Abdur Razzak was almost beating records in 2010 when I was bowling coach (covering spin,too as Saluddin had left months before).

Whether this is about me or not is a moot point. I am always flattered that people say nice things about making a difference very quickly.

What's interesting is we allow coaches "a year or two" to settle in, yet I have always felt you can make positive impacts MENTALLY in a short time. And this is where I feel a coach has most to offer in Bangladesh.

I totally understand Ash, by the way. Even if you were slightly joking in your point, he really does need someone to help him and back him. And like him or loathe him, Rocky is exactly the same.

I don't think I will ever work for the Bangladesh National Team again, but I always enjoy my time spent in Bangladesh.

Will you be coaching again in the BPL coach? I heard that you won't coach Dhaka but any chance you'll coach any other franchise?

jeesh
November 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
A lot will depend on what happens today. A win, and BCB will probably say why do we even need a new head coach. A loss and the hunt can begin.

Ian Pont
November 17, 2012, 02:30 AM
A lot will depend on what happens today. A win, and BCB will probably say why do we even need a new head coach. A loss and the hunt can begin.

And the entire lack of BCB cricket knowledge starts right there in that statement

AsifTheManRahman
November 17, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sorry to say, but Shane Jurgensen is the worst international coach ever, maybe only comparable to Mohsin Kamal. He needs to go, Ian Pont needs to be brought in as head coach. BCB open your eyes, Jurgensen no good.

Nadim
November 17, 2012, 10:28 AM
Sorry to say, but Shane Jurgensen is the worst international coach ever, maybe only comparable to Mohsin Kamal. He needs to go, Ian Pont needs to be brought in as head coach. BCB open your eyes, Jurgensen no good.

"I don't think I will ever work for the Bangladesh National Team again"IP


......................:-|

Ian Pont
November 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
Time to search for a new Australian... sorry.. Head Coach

Zeeshan
November 17, 2012, 03:36 PM
Time to search for a new Australian... sorry.. Head Coach

Hehe, nice to see you got your humor intact. Hey Ian, where would you say the match went downhill yesternight? Do you think the boys went to the shell where they should've played with more positive intent? If Best had so much buy how come Rubel et al, couldn't get anything from the pitch?

And the Rajib thinks he is Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan 3.0 of My name is Khan fame. Any comments?

Ian Pont
November 18, 2012, 03:18 AM
Hehe, nice to see you got your humor intact. Hey Ian, where would you say the match went downhill yesternight? Do you think the boys went to the shell where they should've played with more positive intent? If Best had so much buy how come Rubel et al, couldn't get anything from the pitch?

And the Rajib thinks he is Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan 3.0 of My name is Khan fame. Any comments?

Those are microcosms of what's indicative of issues within the team:

1. Certain players think they are better than they are
2. Some players feel they have 'made it' by simply being in the team
3. As long as some individuals do well, they are not worried if the team lose
4. The team do not believe they can win such matches
5. People confuse aggression and rashness in batting with positive intent
6. Responsibility, understanding and strength of character are sometimes missing

I feel this is why things aren't improving

Maysun
November 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
^ Safe to say, all the above mentioned points with the exception of the 4th, apply to the mighty SN.

Kohli_Sox
November 18, 2012, 11:02 AM
Those are microcosms of what's indicative of issues within the team:

1. Certain players think they are better than they are
2. Some players feel they have 'made it' by simply being in the team
3. As long as some individuals do well, they are not worried if the team lose
4. The team do not believe they can win such matches
5. People confuse aggression and rashness in batting with positive intent
6. Responsibility, understanding and strength of character are sometimes missing

I feel this is why things aren't improving

Completely agree with all the points, perfectly said.

Kohli_Sox
November 24, 2012, 11:40 AM
Ok so what's the news? For how long our team will be without a specialist Head Coach. This is unbelievable stuff tbh. Also it's about time we look for a specialist batting Coach and Head Coach separately. I don't understand why BCB always try to compromise Head Coach to be the Batting Coach as like "ek dhile dui pakhi" style

Habib
November 25, 2012, 01:12 AM
Now this is a problem we immediately need to address. I just don't get the feeling anyone taking notes of what the players and the captain doing wrong. What is Papon doing? Are they just happy with the way things are? Jurgensen shouldn't even be kept as our bowling coach let alone the head coach.

BANFAN
November 25, 2012, 04:23 AM
Those are microcosms of what's indicative of issues within the team:

1. Certain players think they are better than they are
2. Some players feel they have 'made it' by simply being in the team
3. As long as some individuals do well, they are not worried if the team lose
4. The team do not believe they can win such matches
5. People confuse aggression and rashness in batting with positive intent
6. Responsibility, understanding and strength of character are sometimes missing

I feel this is why things aren't improving

That's clear to every open eyes. Question is, what's the solution? We expected that these will be balanced out with better skill and professionalism over the years under pro coaches.... Looks like, coaches are having no impact in these areas... Who can solve it?? Coach, Psychologist, BCB .......?? And how ??

WarWolf
November 25, 2012, 08:19 AM
That's clear to every open eyes. Question is, what's the solution? We expected that these will be balanced out with better skill and professionalism over the years under pro coaches.... Looks like, coaches are having no impact in these areas... Who can solve it?? Coach, Psychologist, BCB .......?? And how ??
The solution is a professional system. An unprofessional system like ours creates too much chaos and everybody thinks that s/he has done enough without doing anything actually. Everybody feels burdened and unhappy.

We all know what to do. Ian himself suggested a couple of times.

it's upto BCB to fix the problem. But the question is who will fix BCB?

Ian Pont
November 25, 2012, 01:47 PM
Checking my emails... but nothing from the BCB at this stage

kumar89
November 25, 2012, 03:19 PM
JS should Leave and Mushfiq should resign. Bring in Mashrafe as captain (Limited) and a dedicated coach.

Nadim
November 25, 2012, 03:31 PM
Checking my emails... but nothing from the BCB at this stage

You don't want that job so why should BCB waste their and more importantly your time? :)

kumar89
November 25, 2012, 03:33 PM
@ Ian Pont, Zimbabwe has a Head Position role Available, should try your luck:)

BCB and ZIM board, not so different. I wish you best of luck!

Ian Pont
November 25, 2012, 03:34 PM
You don't want that job so why should BCB waste their and more importantly your time? :)

Nadim bhai, have some fun bro... chill out.

BrianLara7
November 25, 2012, 03:58 PM
This guy Jergusen is crap... probably worse than even Duncan fletcher. We need someone like tom moody or Stephen fleming

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
November 25, 2012, 04:33 PM
I think Coach is n't a major issue. There is a mystery about our team. We need Sherlock Holmes !

BrianLara7
November 25, 2012, 04:35 PM
I think Coach is n't a major issue. There is a mystery about our team. We need Sherlock Holmes !

Not even father of SHerlock holmes and feluda can fix these idiots. We need 6 bradmans, 1 Gilchrist, 1 Warne and 3 Malcolm Marshall in our team.

dark mage
November 26, 2012, 10:20 AM
Come to think of it, Saqlain would make a good head coach. He was known as a thinking cricketer and has a good brain and wasn't plagued by any scandals and corruptions like other EX- pak players. There is also the fact that most of our players are a big fan of his and is more likely to listen to what he has to say and he is someone who understands the subcontinent culture. Has quite abit of western influence too as he worked with England and New Zealand as well as having played in the county for so long. He also knows something about batting as he was pretty handy with the bat himself and has seen how greats like Saeed Anwar, Inzamam and fast bowlers like Wasim and Waqar used to train. Given how most of our players grew up watching them play, stories about their training schedule won't go unheeded.

Why go for an Aussie coach who have so many demands?

I know a good player doesn't always make a good coach but there's a fact that some of our more arrogant cricketers think they know better than the coach if it's not someone famous.

If we really want some western guy, I hope it's someone like Ian, Siddons, Barlow, Mcinnes who are genuinely passionate about our cricket and ready to take the hands-on approach with our players and willing to improve on what he has on his hands while knowing that he can't get something like transparent selections, good people to help him, etc but somehow make the best of the given situation like Siddons tried to do. Not someone who would Just sit back and strategise and lament about the inadequate facilities, player skills and administration. Someone who can earn respect and trust from our players like Siddons and Barlow but Saqlain has the advantage where this respect is already ingrained in our players minds.

But given the fact how inept BCB is they will probably go after someone unwilling and beg them to take the job like Klusener or our Ex-coach. After all what would a dumb fan like me know?

Holden
November 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Just noticed that Alan Butcher will be leaving the position of Zimbabwe Head Coach.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe/content/story/591280.html

Bangladesh would do well if they could persuade him to join them. I was impressed with how he dealt with Zimbabwe's return to Test cricket, how can anyone forget the beating they gave us. Zimbabwe looked a more professional outfit than us.
He shouldn't have too much trouble with BCB's shenanigans as he probably has had to deal with plenty of those in his tenure with Zimbabwe. As far as I'm aware all his children are grown up so he shouldn't have any family relocation issues as our previous head coach had, in fact if he could bring his son Mark (who was a gritty Test batsmen for England) with him, maybe as a batting consultant, that'd be even better as I've been impressed with his work as a pundit on Sky, he seems very knowledgeable.
The position of Bangladesh Head Coach would offer a challenge and also would have it's attractions to him; It would be a higher status than his previous position, he would be financially rewarded, he would have a young and talented squad to work with, and in general there would be better resources. I think he would be suited to us and could take us to the next step: being a decent Test side.

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nadim bhai, have some fun bro... chill out.
Coach, have that passport ready? We need you to help us out with our batting - Anamul has terrible footwork. Now that Shane has proven that he's one of the greatest bowling head coaches of the modern era in the first ODI, he's obviously the right man for the job. I'm sure he would be delighted to have you assist with our batting.

zsayeed
November 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
^ Why can't Jurgensen assist Ian with the bowling? :)

jeesh
November 30, 2012, 12:55 PM
Not so sure about Alan Butcher holden. He had a very good support team featuring Heath Streak, Grant Flower. Even guys like Alaistar Campbell gets involved. All their ex cricketers are extremely enthusiastic about their cricket and all do their bit to help. Not sure Butcher will have the same support in BD.

Wonder what BCB's reaction would be if we can pull off a couple more victories in this series. They will probably want SJ to continue.

Ian Pont
November 30, 2012, 01:58 PM
Coach, have that passport ready? We need you to help us out with our batting - Anamul has terrible footwork. Now that Shane has proven that he's one of the greatest bowling head coaches of the modern era in the first ODI, he's obviously the right man for the job. I'm sure he would be delighted to have you assist with our batting.

You mean like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FXRAkMV7I

AsifTheManRahman
November 30, 2012, 02:33 PM
Wonder what BCB's reaction would be if we can pull off a couple more victories in this series. They will probably want SJ to continue.
I dunno, enough is enough and we need to find a proper bowling coach and/or a proper head coach.

Dilscoop
November 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
I'd hire 2 coaches this time around. Head coach and assistant coach. I prefer the head coach to be a Motivator and Assistant coach to be a Strategist. (I have been playing too much madden in franchise mode)


5-0 could be the worst thing that can happen us right now. New Prez will just relax seeing the results and not hire someone asap. And before you know it WC15 will be here.

Eshen
November 30, 2012, 04:04 PM
IMO, Law was the best coach BCB ever hired, and he recommended SJ when he left. IMO, we should trust Law's judgement and stick with SJ for now.

We still need to look for a batting coach though.

M.H.Rubel
November 30, 2012, 04:07 PM
IMO, Law was the best coach BCB ever hired, and he recommended SJ when he left. IMO, we should trust Law's judgement and stick with SJ for now.

We still need to look for a batting coach though.

W C B after a long time.

Eshen
November 30, 2012, 04:09 PM
W C B after a long time.Thanks!

RazabQ
November 30, 2012, 04:15 PM
SJ was the kiwi bowling coach when we got NZ bangla-washed. 'Nuff sed.

Eshen
November 30, 2012, 04:27 PM
SJ was the coach when we got NZ bangla-washed. 'Nuff sed.Where's the like button?!

RazabQ
November 30, 2012, 04:28 PM
click on the green quote icon on the top right