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zahidnyc
November 17, 2012, 04:49 AM
Nasir hossain who played only 1 test match how he already got better than riad , how come musfiq went top of the order even tho he played more match than riad and still average lower than riad in both odi and test ? As soon as richard pybas came he knew riad was better batsman and he played him at number 4 , now pybas gone and we back to old things where he has to bat with tail ender and stay unbeaten or find himself a no partner , their was no dout today match bd wouldbe win if he was come little earlier , little mistake can make any team suffer big time

Nadim
November 17, 2012, 04:52 AM
Excuse me! Nasir played one test match only?

simon
November 17, 2012, 04:52 AM
because that increases Ryads chance of remaining not out.
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Night_wolf
November 17, 2012, 04:54 AM
did u checked riyad's scores at number 4?

rinathq
November 17, 2012, 04:54 AM
Riyad should be batting before Nasir.....

zahidnyc
November 17, 2012, 04:59 AM
Excuse me! Nasir played one test match only?

Yes with this match is 2

Nadim
November 17, 2012, 05:01 AM
Yes with this match is 2

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/player/300618.html
:facepalm:

zahidnyc
November 17, 2012, 05:01 AM
did u checked riyad's scores at number 4?

Bro 2 or 3 inning doesnt prove show his capabilities , the things is he has the better mentality to play long innings than musfiq nasir naffes junaieed

Isnaad
November 17, 2012, 05:25 AM
Excuse me, Nasir Hossain has had 9 innings to his name and averages 35+. Get your facts right. As for Riyad, where are you going to bat him then? Only 2 and 3 are in need of replacements. And he won't be batting at 2 or 3 for sure.

Naimul_Hd
November 17, 2012, 05:34 AM
doesn't matter. Our batsmen don't play by the number. They are mentally blocked.

Maysun
November 17, 2012, 05:36 AM
Why not Riyad at 8?

Nasir definitely deserves to play above him. Riyad didn't grab the opportunity. That's his fault. Heck we were even questioning his place in the XI prior to the first Test.

shuridh
November 17, 2012, 06:04 AM
Why not Riyad at 8?

Nasir definitely deserves to play above him. Riyad didn't grab the opportunity. That's his fault. Heck we were even questioning his place in the XI prior to the first Test.
Among the 8 batsman drop js or sn.
And make riyad bat at 7.
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Razi
November 17, 2012, 08:12 AM
Are you Riyad, the great VC?

WarWolf
November 17, 2012, 08:48 AM
Riyad is not comfortable in top order. He admitted this a couple of times.

Rifat
November 17, 2012, 08:51 AM
let him stay where he is. I think he did get a hundred playing at this position.

AsifTheManRahman
November 17, 2012, 10:11 AM
VC hoise kintu lojja shorom bole to kisu mone hocche nai. Dekhen dressing room e giya kemne daat kelay hashtese nishchoi.

simon
November 17, 2012, 12:36 PM
he scores more as number eight, so let it continue .

Murad
November 17, 2012, 02:49 PM
Riyad should bat after Shakib at 6. Nasir at 7 and Mushy at 8. Mushy doesn't deserve to bat at 6 and 7.

Gowza
November 17, 2012, 05:52 PM
riyad doesn't like batting up the order, plus i think nasir is more capable of scoring tons more often as long as he's given the time.

Jadukor
November 17, 2012, 06:52 PM
Ryad got terrorized by tino best on our home conditions. After getting hit twice he was ready to back away like a tailender and expose his stumps which even prompted a debutant like Gazi to walk down and talk to him. Where else should he bat?

KaaL-PurusH
November 17, 2012, 11:45 PM
VC hoise kintu lojja shorom bole to kisu mone hocche nai. Dekhen dressing room e giya kemne daat kelay hashtese nishchoi.

lojja shorom bikrir teka dia vice captaincy kinse:facepalm:

KaaL-PurusH
November 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Ryad got terrorized by tino best on our home conditions. After getting hit twice he was ready to back away like a tailender and expose his stumps which even prompted a debutant like Gazi to walk down and talk to him. Where else should he bat?

or moto bekub der wicket nia SRK desh er star bowler hoise

Shaun petr
November 18, 2012, 05:44 AM
Riyad should bat after Shakib at 6. Nasir at 7 and Mushy at 8. Mushy doesn't deserve to bat at 6 and 7.

Sometimes i feel Mushy should not be in the team.

zahidnyc
November 18, 2012, 06:37 AM
Why not Riyad at 8?

Nasir definitely deserves to play above him. Riyad didn't grab the opportunity. That's his fault. Heck we were even questioning his place in the XI prior to the first Test.

yeah if we have people like u with this kinda mentity that riad shouldn't be in the team even tho he proved his capabilities tons of time than surely bangladesh can never make progress , people like u were chanting before to drop tamim iqbal now going for riad

zahidnyc
November 18, 2012, 06:44 AM
Sometimes i feel Mushy should not be in the team.

bro i agree with u , but rite now we don't see anyone better than him ,probably jahurul islam , but it just doesn't make sense when riad is averaging higher than musfiq even tho riad played less match than musfiq , my point is than how musfiq still deserve to bat top of riad , and honestly i think riad is much much better batsman than musfiq , riad centuries in pacy nz track and his 3 great inning against aussies shows how capable he is as a batsman , playing him at different different position making him confuse , but at this time i think number 6 is the best option for him and musfi could go down at 8

deshimon
November 18, 2012, 06:49 AM
Lower order is the proper position for Ryad. He doesn't deserve the place in middle order. So I think that there is no argument about his current position.

Maysun
November 18, 2012, 09:21 AM
yeah if we have people like u with this kinda mentity that riad shouldn't be in the team even tho he proved his capabilities tons of time than surely bangladesh can never make progress , people like u were chanting before to drop tamim iqbal now going for riad

He proved his capabilities tons of time? :facepalm:

And excuse me, Mr zahidnyc! I have never questioned Tamim's spot in any format. You have been mistaken. Sorry.

KaaL-PurusH
November 18, 2012, 09:37 AM
We better need to ask what is he doing to overcome the fear against fast bowling and bouncer?

Maysun
November 18, 2012, 09:45 AM
We better need to ask what is he doing to overcome the fear against fast bowling and bouncer?

What about his fear when fielding?

al Furqaan
November 18, 2012, 06:38 PM
Riyad should be in danger of losing his spot in the team, forget about getting a batting promotion. He hasn't done anything to warrant batting higher up than his current spot. Everyone batting ahead of him, except Junaid and Nafees, deserve to bat ahead of him cuz they have the ability to crack hundreds against any team, anywhere.

Gowza
November 18, 2012, 07:46 PM
problem is riyad doesn't like batting up the order and he hasn't done so well when he's been given the chance, we can't keep batting a batsman at #8 forever and the only open spots are #2 and #3.

Jadukor
November 18, 2012, 07:54 PM
We are not fielding a balanced side because of this perpetual need for an extra batsman. We need specialist bowlers coming in at 8,9,10 and 11. What good did having the 8th batsman do to our chances of winning? In my opinion having somebody like Mahmudullah coming at 8 reinforces the belief that the top order will almost always fail. We have to fix no. 2 and 3 positions so that we don't need the batsman coming so low.

Shoinik
November 18, 2012, 08:00 PM
Don't want to jeopardize Naeem's confidence but he is in good form and seems to be in the 'zone' most of time. Can they ask him to bat at no. 3 and move Riyad to 4 (i.e. if we play with 7 specialist batsmen)? With Naeem's discipline, technique and temperament, it would not be the worst thing (since the next test is in Khulna). A top order consisting of Nafees and Junaid does not make a lot of sense!

Also, guys, check out the first class batting average of some of the current players. If you can't bat for a longer period of time in domestic games, how can you do that consistently in tests?

Case in point (as of 19/11/12):

Junaid Siddique - FC Average 28.29, Test Average 26.18

Mohammad Ashraful - FC Average 28.37, Test Average 22.60

Mushfiqur Rahim - FC Average 29.44, Test Average 29.03

Raqibul Hasan - FC Average 28.75, Test Average 19.76

Imrul Kayes - FC Average 26.37, Test Average 17.15

Now compare them with:

Naeem Islam - FC Average 41.07, Test Average 36.18

Shakib Al Hasan - FC Average 34.50, Test Average 35.12

Tamim Iqbal - FC Average 44.13, Test Average 38.02

Nasir Hossain - FC Average 34.40, Test Average 36.22

Mahmudullah Riyad - FC Average 33.40, Test Average 31.45

zahidnyc
November 19, 2012, 02:27 AM
Don't want to jeopardize Naeem's confidence but he is in good form and seems to be in the 'zone' most of time. Can they ask him to bat at no. 3 and move Riyad to 4 (i.e. if we play with 7 specialist batsmen)? With Naeem's discipline, technique and temperament, it would not be the worst thing (since the next test is in Khulna). A top order consisting of Nafees and Junaid does not make a lot of sense!

Also, guys, check out the first class batting average of some of the current players. If you can't bat for a longer period of time in domestic games, how can you do that consistently in tests?

Case in point (as of 19/11/12):

Junaid Siddique - FC Average 28.29, Test Average 26.18

Mohammad Ashraful - FC Average 28.37, Test Average 22.60

Mushfiqur Rahim - FC Average 29.44, Test Average 29.03

Raqibul Hasan - FC Average 28.75, Test Average 19.76

Imrul Kayes - FC Average 26.37, Test Average 17.15

Now compare them with:

Naeem Islam - FC Average 41.07, Test Average 36.18

Shakib Al Hasan - FC Average 34.50, Test Average 35.12

Tamim Iqbal - FC Average 44.13, Test Average 38.02

Nasir Hossain - FC Average 34.40, Test Average 36.22

Mahmudullah Riyad - FC Average 33.40, Test Average 31.45



also he is very effective off spin bowler for bangladesh , he got 24 wickets in 13 test match, he couldn't ball that much in this test bcz of gazi , but surely he did great job in the past and he proved his capabilities as a bowler , i mean all together he is great asset that bangladesh has at this moment

zahidnyc
November 21, 2012, 04:06 AM
mahmuduallah is the only bangladesh who seems look like knows what is test match , putting him number 8 is just too silly and it wil never help bangladesh , it just waste of his talent , he look like the best test batsman bnagladesh have currently rite now , putting him number it just not giving him opportunity to do better for bangladesh

Sohel
November 21, 2012, 07:06 AM
Riyad at number 8 in tests is acceptable provided he plays with tailenders like Gazza and Raju, both with genuine batting ability.

KaaL-PurusH
November 21, 2012, 07:11 AM
naeem & mullah should bat at #3 & #4. Nasir should come before Mushirrifiq.

Sovik
November 21, 2012, 07:17 AM
Who do you want to play at 8?

al Furqaan
November 21, 2012, 07:18 AM
People are forgetting one thing: Riyad seems to be magic batting with rank tailenders. Remember the Shafiul knock to beat England? He had a similar but less spectacular job in a match v ZIM as well. And this this current p'ship of 172 not out that trumps them all. Keep him at eight, he's not doing badly, not harming his average, and to be honest doesn't have the umph to be a top order batsman. He is our crisis manager.

Miraz
November 21, 2012, 07:21 AM
Looks like number 8 brings out the best from Riyad. He never took off when he was promoted higher up the order. I would keep him at number 8 as long as he is scoring runs from this position. A 50 from number 8 is much more valuable than a 15 at number 4.

Habib
November 21, 2012, 07:37 AM
Riyad feels right at home at 8. No need to give him responsibility at 3, it could backfire.

Sohel
November 21, 2012, 07:42 AM
^He's also afraid to bat up the order, according to many reports over the years.

KaaL-PurusH
November 21, 2012, 07:42 AM
Who do you want to play at 8?

1 of the 4 bowler. We shouldn't play with 3 bowlers in test match

Rabz
November 21, 2012, 07:54 AM
I think batting under pressure, with tail-enders that requires guarding your shots, bring the best out of Riyad. He has been very effective in this role and as said before, somehow knows how to get the best out of his partner as well.

Despite his lack of form in the NCL this season, out of the 3 test innings so far, he scored half century in 2 and was doing very well on the other innings until he ran out of partner and decided to have a big heave.

KaaL-PurusH
November 21, 2012, 08:00 AM
But we may get better service from him in the middle order. we should be looking at solid middle order instead of expecting something from tail ender. We need to shape up the team rather than see off a series. btw he has scored runs in #4 & #5.

crikss
November 21, 2012, 08:24 AM
selectors play gamble with no 2,3 position..and all other spots are already taken..you can only switch him with Nasir...So i guess being at no 8, he is doing great job

KaaL-PurusH
November 21, 2012, 08:32 AM
selectors play gamble with no 2,3 position..and all other spots are already taken..you can only switch him with Nasir...So i guess being at no 8, he is doing great job

If we alread have 2 batsmen are performing more frequently than others then i dont see any reason for gambling with #3. Naeem seems to has temperament to bat at #3 and Riyad and Naseer can easily fill the #4 & #5.

Max100
November 21, 2012, 03:23 PM
I will keep him the place where he bats, may be replacement for sn or junaid is anamul , mominul , jahurul or mehrab jr. Sn, najim, junaed lost all chances

Max100
November 21, 2012, 03:25 PM
All the newcomers are rocking. First sohag gazi, now abul.

Even come back guy edwards did well too

Kohli_Sox
November 21, 2012, 03:31 PM
this is beyond ridiculousness that people saying he should stay at 8; he's one of the most sensible batsmen in the team who keeps it calm, he should definitely come at middle order.

sharup
November 21, 2012, 03:36 PM
Could it be the new era of of our test cricket? Have we just turned a corner? Could we now not only take the game to 5th day but open up the possibilities of swinging it our way? I think so. Before we would lose a test match inside 3/4 days. Now we can fight on the 5th day and can possibly grind a positive result. Our next lesson is to win from those situations that we failed to capitalise on the 5th day. I hope our boys take the next step. So far so good. I see a bright future in the test arena.

MUR plays an anchor role lower down the order. He's clam and calculated and I think no 8 suits him for that reason. Imagine Tamim at no 8. We will pack our bags in no time. MUR is just the opposite at 8. Same goes Nasir. Both are similar type of players.

Gowza
November 21, 2012, 04:15 PM
Could it be the new era of of our test cricket? Have we just turned a corner? Could we now not only take the game to 5th day but open up the possibilities of swinging it our way? I think so. Before we would lose a test match inside 3/4 days. Now we can fight on the 5th day and can possibly grind a positive result. Our next lesson is to win from those situations that we failed to capitalise on the 5th day. I hope our boys take the next step. So far so good. I see a bright future in the test arena.

MUR plays an anchor role lower down the order. He's clam and calculated and I think no 8 suits him for that reason. Imagine Tamim at no 8. We will pack our bags in no time. MUR is just the opposite at 8. Same goes Nasir. Both are similar type of players.
difference is most of the batting line up nowadays averages around 30 or more and we bat the way down to 8 and then have some handy hitters. previously the specialist batsmen only averaged 20-25 so the batsmen are a lot more consistent now plus batting to #8 helps though it's not the best structure imo if you're looking to win matches.

AsifTheManRahman
November 21, 2012, 04:21 PM
Mofeez and Nazza! look grossly out of place in this lineup with their mid-twenty averages.

But the fact remains, our top/middle orders couldn't take us to 500 on the flattest of all flat tracks, flatter than Hilton's chest as Stick Cricket would put it. We had to rely on our #10 to save our buttocks. So a hundred *whip*s for each of #1-#7.

Dilscoop
November 21, 2012, 05:05 PM
Michael Riyad. That's why.

mali007
November 21, 2012, 05:13 PM
With his consistent performance Riyad is the best test batsman at the moment . Best batsman always plays at # 3 position . Moreover he will be under less pressure to play with the top order rather with the bowlers .

Gowza
November 21, 2012, 05:28 PM
With his consistent performance Riyad is the best test batsman at the moment . Best batsman always plays at # 3 position . Moreover he will be under less pressure to play with the top order rather with the bowlers .

well one could argue that nasir is the best atm. but anyway riyad hasn't really done that well when moved up the order, i think in tests he's a good finisher batting with the tail, i'd try nasir at #3 before riyad.

KaaL-PurusH
November 21, 2012, 05:42 PM
well one could argue that nasir is the best atm. but anyway riyad hasn't really done that well when moved up the order, i think in tests he's a good finisher batting with the tail, i'd try nasir at #3 before riyad.

Not true. He's got 2 fifty at #5 against england. He's got the start (30+)while batting at #4 but couldnt convert it. He is basically a middle order batsmen just like Naeem.

Gowza
November 21, 2012, 06:26 PM
Not true. He's got 2 fifty at #5 against england. He's got the start (30+)while batting at #4 but couldnt convert it. He is basically a middle order batsmen just like Naeem.

we''ll have to agree to disagree here because when riyad has batted from the #4 spot to the #7 spot his average is only 21.66 with two half centuries in 9 innings. batting at #8 (not including the current test match) he averages 48.75 in 15 innings with 1 century and 4 half centuries. batting at #7 he averages 18 but he's only played 1 innings, batting at #6 he averages only 11 but again just one innings, at #5 he averages 26.80 where he has 2 half centuries in 5 innings (not so bad but the highest was only 59), at #4 he averages 16 from two innings.

stats pretty much indicate he's better down the order, ok he had some success at #5 but it wasn't outstanding and overall batting in the middle order (#8 has to be considered lower order imo and it is by most) he hasn't had too much success, and the stats say he has had a lot more success batting at #8.

i'm not saying he can't succeed in the middle order, i think he can but he is better further down, he prefers it and also i think there are others who do and would perform better than him in the middle order, shakib, nasir, naeem, mominul, mushy (although mushy is a bit similar to riyad, does better at 7 and 8 than higher up but when given the chance he has done slightly better than riyad batting at #5).

but anyway we were talking about the #3 position which is considered top order but i think really if you're going to move someone up from the lower order to bat at #3 then nasir has performed better than riyad and mushy in the short time he's so far been in the team so that indicates that he could be a better candidate imo.

jeesh
November 22, 2012, 03:24 AM
Riyad and Nasir have to bat up the order. Both are very capable. Push Mushfiqur to 7 and pick an additional bowler. Nasir particularly could be a huge player for us.

BANFAN
November 22, 2012, 03:37 AM
Because Riyad plays well at 8....he is very bad at the top......

zahidnyc
November 22, 2012, 06:12 AM
Who do you want to play at 8?

ofcourse mushy deserve that palace bro

zahidnyc
November 22, 2012, 06:14 AM
this is beyond ridiculousness that people saying he should stay at 8; he's one of the most sensible batsmen in the team who keeps it calm, he should definitely come at middle order.



bro this is where bangladesh are making mistake and we have to wait longer and longer just to get win , we wouldn't lost the first test that easily if he was coming top of the order surely

KaaL-PurusH
November 22, 2012, 06:52 AM
bro this is where bangladesh are making mistake and we have to wait longer and longer just to get win , we wouldn't lost the first test that easily if he was coming top of the order surely

we have managed to invent an unique idea to make our fluent and in from batsmen to play under pressure.

M.H.Rubel
November 22, 2012, 10:32 AM
Lets think logically. Possible positions where Riyad can bat.
#3: He dont have the courage to bat at #3
#4: This is a good place for him. Once we were craving for a #4 batsman. He never took the position despite offered to take the position several times.To me Naeem is perfect for #4.So no to Riyad for #4.
#5: Taken by Shakib.
#6: Best candidate for this position is Nasir. As Nasir is still very inexperienced then best candidate here is Mushy.
#7: Taken by Nasir.
#8: Only position left for Riyad.
So i dont see any upper position left for Riyad.Only option can be if we promote all batsman 1 up but putting Naeem at #3 will be risky now.

Naimul_Hd
November 22, 2012, 10:42 AM
Riyad should bat at 5/6. Mushy should swap his place with Riyad. Riyad is technically better batsman than Mushy. Mushy struggles to play pace bowlers. So, its better for him if he bats down and play spin bowlers mostly.

1. Tamim
2. Walking wicket
3. Walking wicket
4. Naeem
5. Shakib
6. RIYAD
7. Nasir
8. Mushy

AsifTheManRahman
November 22, 2012, 11:00 AM
If #8 is the only possible slot for Riyad, then he should bowl more, because 8 batsmen is one too many, unless your #8 can bowl well too.
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Murad
November 22, 2012, 11:05 AM
how can mushy deserve to bat at no.6 with the way he bats? mushy should bat at 8.

BANFAN
November 22, 2012, 11:25 AM
we have managed to invent an unique idea to make our fluent and in from batsmen to play under pressure.

That makes sense. Logically your best and inform player is best suited to take pressure.

simon
November 22, 2012, 11:34 AM
I am pretty sure if Ryad is promoted and he phails we will all admit it was a bad.idea.
So I think what we could do is that if our top order gets some runs then only take a risk and promot him.
if top order fails as usual then bttr not change anything.
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BANFAN
November 22, 2012, 12:17 PM
Let everyone bat in wherever they are....one innings and we start thinking too much into it...

Tiger444
November 22, 2012, 12:33 PM
We shouldn't be playing with 8 batsmen in the 1st place. It's pretty clear we needed Sunny in these last 2 matches. Also our #2 and #3 didn't do jack in the end. Promote Shakib or Nasir up to #3 since they have the ability to bat basically anywhere and have Anamul open with Tamim.

Also lets keep Riyad at #6/7. He's proved that he's more comfortable when playing down the order and playing with the tail. So why change that? He does that role pretty well. Don't fix what ain't broke.

KaaL-PurusH
November 22, 2012, 06:18 PM
Lets think logically. Possible positions where Riyad can bat.
#3: He dont have the courage to bat at #3
#4: This is a good place for him. Once we were craving for a #4 batsman. He never took the position despite offered to take the position several times.To me Naeem is perfect for #4.So no to Riyad for #4.
#5: Taken by Shakib.
#6: Best candidate for this position is Nasir. As Nasir is still very inexperienced then best candidate here is Mushy.
#7: Taken by Nasir.
#8: Only position left for Riyad.
So i dont see any upper position left for Riyad.Only option can be if we promote all batsman 1 up but putting Naeem at #3 will be risky now.

Since we would need Shakib to bowl So many overs in future in test and his batting too so he should be pushed down to #6 to make him last longer. Riyad has been playing international cricket for a while and scored runs too so it will not be too difficult for him to settle down at #4. And nasir should come at #5 because he can play his natural game even under and Naeem has patience and ability to anchor the innings at #3.


Law also set riyad up in the middle during his tenure and he scored some runs too.

MyRoom
November 22, 2012, 06:57 PM
Bad idea because we do these kind of things time to time when players are performing at their current position and always fail by moving them up well most of the time. Lower down the order in Tests and ODIs is perfectly fine by him.

M.H.Rubel
December 30, 2012, 04:34 AM
The way Riyad batted today,he never should be promoted. Bering the captain he dont have enough courage to bat up for central Zone? His team is losing the match and he is watching from dressing room? Such a coward. He never should be promoted above #8.

Vepu
December 30, 2012, 12:17 PM
he was injured. still scored a 50 and saved his team from defeat

BANFAN
December 30, 2012, 01:30 PM
The way Riyad batted today,he never should be promoted. Bering the captain he dont have enough courage to bat up for central Zone? His team is losing the match and he is watching from dressing room? Such a coward. He never should be promoted above #8.

He should only be promoted....he is damaging lower down the order...

Gowza
December 30, 2012, 04:58 PM
He should only be promoted....he is damaging lower down the order...

I think the problem with promoting riyad is less to do with his ability and more to do with his mindset, he just doesn't seem to want to bat higher and no matter what your capability if you're out in the middle wishing you were batting lower that's going to affect you imo.

MyRoom
December 30, 2012, 05:04 PM
Riyad is fine where he is 4-7 but our test series against Sri Lanka should be like this - 01.Tamim, 02.Anamul, 03.Marshall/Mominul, 04.Naeem, 05.Shakib, 06.Rahim, 07.Nasir, 08.Riyad, 09.Gazi, 10.Abul/Nazmul, 11.Rubel/Shafiul.

BengaliPagol
December 30, 2012, 06:10 PM
he was injured. still scored a 50 and saved his team from defeat

Did anyone listen to this guy? HE WAS INJURED AND STILL PLAYED AND SAVED THE TEAM FROM DEFEAT.

So technically he is a hero in my terms.

BengaliPagol
December 30, 2012, 06:11 PM
The way Riyad batted today,he never should be promoted. Bering the captain he dont have enough courage to bat up for central Zone? His team is losing the match and he is watching from dressing room? Such a coward. He never should be promoted above #8.

Wow jumping to conclusions when the whole picture hasnt been painted. He was injured.

BANFAN
December 30, 2012, 06:59 PM
I think the problem with promoting riyad is less to do with his ability and more to do with his mindset, he just doesn't seem to want to bat higher and no matter what your capability if you're out in the middle wishing you were batting lower that's going to affect you imo.

Still, once you forma team, you should assign a role according to his ability and need of the team. Even if he has an unwillingness, yet he will get set when he will find his confidence in doing that job. It's a worse situation to assign a task he is willing to do but beyond his ability .....

Gowza
December 30, 2012, 08:00 PM
Still, once you forma team, you should assign a role according to his ability and need of the team. Even if he has an unwillingness, yet he will get set when he will find his confidence in doing that job. It's a worse situation to assign a task he is willing to do but beyond his ability .....

I understand what you are saying but at the same time we have a good group of capable batsmen who are willing to bat higher.

simon
December 31, 2012, 07:22 AM
I think the problem with promoting riyad is less to do with his ability and more to do with his mindset, he just doesn't seem to want to bat higher and no matter what your capability if you're out in the middle wishing you were batting lower that's going to affect you imo.

but that's just your speculation , I mean u don't know what he thinks right? or did he ever say in any interview that he doesn't like batting up ?

Nadim
December 31, 2012, 07:52 AM
but that's just your speculation , I mean u don't know what he thinks right? or did he ever say in any interview that he doesn't like batting up ?

He did said he preferred to bat at 6 than in top 4.

And he proved it many times when he was the captain in ncl/bcl and dpl. So I guess keep him where he want to bat rather than forcing him to bat at the top

M.H.Rubel
December 31, 2012, 12:30 PM
but that's just your speculation , I mean u don't know what he thinks right? or did he ever say in any interview that he doesn't like batting up ?

This is an old matter. During Siddons era, Siddons in an interview said that several times he has offered Riyad to bat up but he has rejected. Few days ago I asked Ian in this forum regarding this and he also admitted the matter. Ian Said that Riyad don't like to bat up due to lack of confidence.

rinathq
December 31, 2012, 03:11 PM
everyone has their own slot of preference for batting. Its only natural for them to stick to that slot. If u ask Sakib to open the innings, how will he like that idea? Not that he isnt capable of opening, but he wont like the idea at all. On the other hand, If Tamim is asked to play 4 or 5, he will refuse it as well. Riyad prefers to bat between 5-8 and thats fine with me. Its not like there is some Dhoni or Mathews waiting to replace him in the lower order. Our entire batting line up is inconsistent. Face it! Promoting a no.7 batsman to no. 4 wont help. Its not doing much favors to Nasir right now anyways

BANFAN
December 31, 2012, 03:22 PM
everyone has their own slot of preference for batting. Its only natural for them to stick to that slot. If u ask Sakib to open the innings, how will he like that idea? Not that he isnt capable of opening, but he wont like the idea at all. On the other hand, If Tamim is asked to play 4 or 5, he will refuse it as well. Riyad prefers to bat between 5-8 and thats fine with me. Its not like there is some Dhoni or Mathews waiting to replace him in the lower order. Our entire batting line up is inconsistent. Face it! Promoting a no.7 batsman to no. 4 wont help. Its not doing much favors to Nasir right now anyways

You didn't read the posts...did you?

You come with a hypothetical example...Question is where does his game suit and what the team needs him to do.... You have to listen to the players but it's nt necessary that you have to always keep his preference.... First preference is the need of the team... Onurodher Ashor doesn't make a good team... You can think of the professional team you are part of.... You keep a preference, if that's nt harming the team....

Mullah is a horrible finisher, he can only bat the way he can...that's the reason he looks utterly selfish when he bats with the tail.......Bla Bla....

shakibrulz
December 31, 2012, 03:37 PM
I've been banging my head over this. He's a top order batsman. Anyone with half a brain can see that, regardless of his form. Doesn't matter what he 'likes', he should bat at #3 or #4 in both formats.

zsayeed
December 31, 2012, 03:51 PM
I've been banging my head over this. He's a top order batsman. Anyone with half a brain can see that, regardless of his form. Doesn't matter what he 'likes', he should bat at #3 or #4 in both formats.

Look at Isam's comment at the 31.1 ball for BD innings:
"Cricinfo's Isam has this for me: ""It is entirely up to the management where each batsman bats in the Bangladesh team. They want one solid bat to be down the order to give the score respectability whenever they run into trouble. A tradition that started with Khaled Mashud""

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/engine/match/587474.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary

BengaliPagol
December 31, 2012, 11:49 PM
LOL who said Riyad wont open the batting?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvbdesh/engine/current/match/361921.html

shakibrulz
January 1, 2013, 12:11 AM
Look at Isam's comment at the 31.1 ball for BD innings:
"Cricinfo's Isam has this for me: ""It is entirely up to the management where each batsman bats in the Bangladesh team. They want one solid bat to be down the order to give the score respectability whenever they run into trouble. A tradition that started with Khaled Mashud""

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/engine/match/587474.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary
Yeah and they should stop doing that - they're well past that stage. Nasir should be the one who should bat there, he loves batting under pressure down the order.

Fazal
January 9, 2013, 12:03 AM
Why Why Why....?

Because ... because .... because ...

M.H.Rubel
January 24, 2013, 01:32 PM
Riyad is the only batsman in top 20 who have a strike rate below 100.

BD_TigerZ
January 24, 2013, 11:54 PM
Odi

Tamim
Anamul
Shakib
Mullah- Should be the perfect spot
Mushy
Nasir
Mominul
Gazi
Mash
Raz
Rubel/shafiul/sunny