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al-Sagar
December 5, 2012, 10:33 AM
AFTER 3 games the score is ... .... .....

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Ladies and Gentleman Presenting THE IMPORTANT 4TH ODI from
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what will be the Outcome of this game
TUNE IN

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I HOPE TO START WITH MUSHFIQ WINS THE
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Nadim
December 5, 2012, 10:37 AM
Need one more spinner to replace Rubel. Play in the same pitch plsss

Roni_uk
December 5, 2012, 10:38 AM
Amra korbo joy.. Amra korbo joy... akdiiiiiin
aha buk er bhitoreeeee
ache prottoyyyyy
amra korbo joyyy
akdin
ting ting ting ting ting ting!

Max100
December 5, 2012, 10:38 AM
no need rubel, bring ziaur for batting and 2/ 3 over from beginning or bring enamul hauque jr

riajul
December 5, 2012, 10:40 AM
All the best boys. hopefully this time we can able to win the series.
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Roni_uk
December 5, 2012, 10:42 AM
by the way is Shakib still out? We need him so badly in Mirpur.

crikss
December 5, 2012, 10:42 AM
No place for 2nd seamer in the team..bring one more spinner

BANFAN
December 5, 2012, 10:52 AM
Khuley gesey....??

Maysun
December 5, 2012, 10:57 AM
Why is everyone jumping on board with Enamul Jr? Okay, he's got his domestic performances to back him up but Sunny is ahead of him in the pecking order. And I doubt if, Enamul will get a look in for this series.

If we are playing on the same pitch, and hope we do, get in Sunny because we have enough batsmen. We need a good specialist SLA.

One World
December 5, 2012, 10:57 AM
Make sure the 3rd umpire remains un-inebriated throughout the match.

Jadukor
December 5, 2012, 10:58 AM
I appreciate the effort put into the match thread. Good job al-Sagar.
Hopefully you will bring us better luck than Dilscoop

Yasin.
December 5, 2012, 11:07 AM
Zia in place of Rubel. Not because of that over from Rubel, but theres still quite a lot our pacers need to do. Also maybe, just maybe, taking pace off the ball will be a good thing.

shuziburo
December 5, 2012, 11:08 AM
CI: "Samuels' century was one of the most calculated and matured knocks you would see on a track that a lot of purchase for the spinners. In fact, the Bangladeshi batsmen would do well to watch tapes of how he batted, they would learn a lot after they collapsed yet again to be restricted to only 227."

I would recommend that too.

shuziburo
December 5, 2012, 11:10 AM
Zia in place of Rubel. Not because of that over from Rubel, but theres still quite a lot our pacers need to do. Also maybe, just maybe, taking pace off the ball will be a good thing.

As we are opening with Shohag, bring in a spinner. Enamul jnr is an option.

al-Sagar
December 5, 2012, 11:12 AM
Why is everyone jumping on board with Enamul Jr? Okay, he's got his domestic performances to back him up but Sunny is ahead of him in the pecking order. And I doubt if, Enamul will get a look in for this series.

If we are playing on the same pitch, and hope we do, get in Sunny because we have enough batsmen. We need a good specialist SLA.

same pitch, rubel out, sunny in and hope we bowl first the dew factor gone ........ WI will be out below 67 ...... not everyday you will see such a samuels fluke, lol

mufi_02
December 5, 2012, 11:35 AM
Naeem is not an ideal number 3 for ODI. I don't know if it would be wise to change the line up a bit and find a good position for him. Zia keo neya jai Naeem er bodole, kintu ei pitch e spinner drop kora bokami o hote pare.

roman
December 5, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sunny needs to be included. He can bat. Besides hate to see only 3 specialized bowler. (Rubel dudh bhat chilo :))

Riyad needs to.play at #3. I will give Nayeem this whole.series simply because he spins but will push him to #7 in the batting order

ialbd
December 5, 2012, 12:31 PM
Arright whats done is done, it needs to happen in this match (inshAllah).... we cant keep it late for the 5th one...

As everyone said it already, need someone more effective in place of Rubel given the pitch. It can be Zia (cause he can bat) or Sunny (to add more spin power). Hard to tell who the selectors will opt for. Keeping the squad unchanged will be a mistake.

And if we manage to win the toss & field, I think we can seal it.

But we have to be wary of WI, they have grown in confidence after the victory and Gayle explosion can happen anyday (although I am more concerned about Samuels, Powell & Pollard at this point).

Best of luck Tigers....!!!

Saifulsohel
December 5, 2012, 12:37 PM
My xi next match: 1.Tamim 2.Anamul 3.Naeem 4.Mushfiq 5.Riyad 6.Mominul 7.Nasir 8.Zia 9.Gazi 10.Mash 11.Razzak

AMD128
December 5, 2012, 12:39 PM
Zia might possibly replace Rubel next game. Given that he is a medium pacer. He'll bowl too & provide some extra batting help in the lower order. Insha'Allah we can pull this one off. Hope for the best people. :)

Dilscoop
December 5, 2012, 01:06 PM
I hope we lose the toss again. Because if we win, we might decide to bat first and that could work against us for number of reasons. Plust, we didn't have tough time with the dew. We should bat first again, and bat better this time around, set a good total so our bowlers can defend it. We might choke trying to chase a target with series on the verge of being tied. JMO.

BANFAN
December 5, 2012, 01:12 PM
Naeem is not an ideal number 3 for ODI. I don't know if it would be wise to change the line up a bit and find a good position for him. Zia keo neya jai Naeem er bodole, kintu ei pitch e spinner drop kora bokami o hote pare.

Naeem is not even a ODI layer.... Let him do what he has shown he can do....in first test first innings....

Rifat
December 5, 2012, 01:12 PM
Nice Unique thread, Sagar Bhai.....:)

Dilscoop
December 5, 2012, 01:14 PM
It'd be something if I become the lone loser in this series, although I'd be more than happy to except it

Kohli_Sox
December 5, 2012, 01:46 PM
Zia is not in the squad or is he? I think it's about time we seriously think to play only one pacer that is Mash and play Sunny instead of other pacer.

shuziburo
December 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Zia might possibly replace Rubel next game. Given that he is a medium pacer. He'll bowl too & provide some extra batting help in the lower order. Insha'Allah we can pull this one off. Hope for the best people. :)

Since they are opening with spin on one end, I am okay with mash being the only pacer. May not work as well against the subcontinent teams, but WI can play pace much better.

shuziburo
December 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Zia is not in the squad or is he? I think it's about time we seriously think to play only one pacer that is Mash and play Sunny instead of other pacer.

Or Enamul Haque jnr...

kalpurush
December 5, 2012, 01:59 PM
AFTER 4 games the score is ... .... .....



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Entertaining thread Sagar! Enjoyed :up:

raad007
December 5, 2012, 02:02 PM
Isn't Jahirul in the team? If he is he could replace Naeem and probalbly Sunny or Enamul Jr. can replace Rubel.

mali007
December 5, 2012, 02:13 PM
They did not listen to me ---- I suggested Zia in the eleven . We could have 25 extra runs, may be more and could have won the match and the series. Spinners are doing good so for the 4th ODI I would suggest Sunny in place for Naeem ( Sunny can bat too) and Zia for Rubel . That way we will get more bowling and batting power . Also I want Mahmudullah to bat at 3 , Mushy at 4 and Mominul at 5 .

SS
December 5, 2012, 02:50 PM
I am sorry to say WI is back and their batters are gaining confidence...Gayle will click and now Marlon, Pollard got back the confidence from today's match...

SS
December 5, 2012, 02:52 PM
They did not listen to me ---- I suggested Zia in the eleven . We could have 25 extra runs, may be more and could have won the match and the series. Spinners are doing good so for the 4th ODI I would suggest Sunny in place for Naeem ( Sunny can bat too) and Zia for Rubel . That way we will get more bowling and batting power . Also I want Mahmudullah to bat at 3 , Mushy at 4 and Mominul at 5 .

unfortunately they won't listen this time also

MyRoom
December 5, 2012, 06:43 PM
Zia for Naeem and Sunny for Rubel. If the pitch is the same likely then I think you can get away with one pacer besides, Zia can bowl some decent medium pacers.

Zeeshan
December 5, 2012, 07:24 PM
So what should be the lineup?

riankhan
December 5, 2012, 11:48 PM
Wonderful thread Sagar bhai. Lets win the series tomorrow :)

Rabz
December 6, 2012, 12:20 AM
Good work Sagar bhai. Very nice thread.
InShaAllah we will win this game and the series.
It was tough luck last night. The way we bowled, we could have easily got 'em.

cricbook
December 6, 2012, 01:13 AM
by the way is Shakib still out? We need him so badly in Mirpur.

atleast 10 ov bowling....just watch ..wi will pack by 150 runs.

cricbook
December 6, 2012, 01:14 AM
AFTER 3 games the score is ... .... .....

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TUNE IN

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I HOPE TO START WITH MUSHFIQ WINS THE
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nice peace of work.....

WindieFan
December 6, 2012, 01:41 AM
There could be some changes to our side, Rampaul couldn't bowl out his overs in the last game due to injury so he might be replaced by Roach, and i have to wonder how long Gibson keeps faith in Dwayne Smith? that shot he got out to was beyond stupid, also Gayle and Pollard really owe us a score now, especially Gayle.

al-Sagar
December 6, 2012, 01:45 AM
just saw, Sunil narine, Ravi rampaul, and Darren bravo in basundhara city.
I asked them for a photo, but they denied.
Ravi rampaul has biceps as wide as my thighs

al-Sagar
December 6, 2012, 01:47 AM
Entertaining thread Sagar! Enjoyed :up:

home work for the last match thread is half done there.

mac
December 6, 2012, 01:59 AM
Dew will be even heavier tomorrow. Ajke onek kuasha!!!

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 02:44 AM
I can see we are playing with only one pacer.

Dilscoop
December 6, 2012, 03:24 AM
Can we call off D/N at this point?

WarWolf
December 6, 2012, 03:38 AM
Nice thread Sagar bhai.

Looking forward to see our boys performing as good as the match thread. :)

Night_wolf
December 6, 2012, 03:48 AM
great thread!..WI to ses!

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 04:05 AM
So what should be the lineup?

Whatever we want, they might go with same line up...

Nadim
December 6, 2012, 04:06 AM
just saw, Sunil narine, Ravi rampaul, and Darren bravo in basundhara city.
I asked them for a photo, but they denied.
Ravi rampaul has biceps as wide as my thighs

Poor sagar bhai:lol:

R ram er bhuri kun size er?
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BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 04:07 AM
I would prefer one change....Zia for Rubel...

Nadim
December 6, 2012, 04:07 AM
So bcb haven't called in a spinner. Greattttt
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Jadukor
December 6, 2012, 04:18 AM
We need to get the two key wickets early... Galye and Samuels
The rest are still struggling to cope with our spinners. I hope that will continue into the fourth ODI.
We need to seriously plan on how to survive against Narine if the pitch does turn the same way as it did last game. Cross batted shots should be avoided by Mushy and Tamim needs to be careful with his square cuts. Hope Nasir and Naeem will make some contribution. At least a few 30+ innings from them is required.

silversurf
December 6, 2012, 05:18 AM
just passing by, let it be an XI of 4th ODI of BD team from my choice :
1) Tamim
2) Anamul
3) Naeem
4) Nasir
5) Mushy
6) Riad
7) Mominul
8) Zia
9) Mash
10) Gazi
11) Razzak.

As mominul does well in bowling in the 3rd ODI no need to play and extra spinner. Rubel doesn't bowl 10 overs and not look good, so drop him, get Zia in, we could have some extra run on the board. A 260+ score and some good bowling with some good catching in the slips specially, we are good to grab the series in next match.
I still believe if if only mash could take the catch of Samuels in the first slip, we might win the 3rd ODI.

silversurf
December 6, 2012, 05:20 AM
We need to get the two key wickets early... Galye and Samuels
The rest are still struggling to cope with our spinners. I hope that will continue into the fourth ODI.
We need to seriously plan on how to survive against Narine if the pitch does turn the same way as it did last game. Cross batted shots should be avoided by Mushy and Tamim needs to be careful with his square cuts. Hope Nasir and Naeem will make some contribution. At least a few 30+ innings from them is required.

I think naeem needs to score a ton if he want to stay in the ODI team of BD. Already fan's are calling for his exclusion.

Nafis 1718
December 6, 2012, 06:01 AM
Last match ta stadium ke deksilam,batting could have been better.Bowling was really good i would say,45th over e Rubel ke dawar mane bujhlam nah.The pitch was turning and Mushfiq jokhn Mominul ke bowl koray dekse o turn koracche he could have given the ball to Nasir or Nayeem(he had 5 overs left).Maybe bd harto still onek close jeto.Amra bujhte parle Mushfiq kan bujhbe nah.It was a stupid mistake.Dukkho paisi.In Sha Allah kalke jacchi i hope they dont dissappoint me.
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riajul
December 6, 2012, 06:06 AM
Last match ta stadium ke deksilam,batting could have been better.Bowling was really good i would say,45th over e Rubel ke dawar mane bujhlam nah.The pitch was turning and Mushfiq jokhn Mominul ke bowl koray dekse o turn koracche he could have given the ball to Nasir or Nayeem(he had 5 overs left).Maybe bd harto still onek close jeto.Amra bujhte parle Mushfiq kan bujhbe nah.It was a stupid mistake.Dukkho paisi.In Sha Allah kalke jacchi i hope they dont dissappoint me.
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Hope so.
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riajul
December 6, 2012, 06:17 AM
From Isam bhais match preview : The pitch for the 4th odi would be a batting paradise. <BR/>its not a good sign i think, mushy should win the toss this time otherwise it will be very difficult for us.
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M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 06:30 AM
Pitch and conditions




The pitch for the third ODI was a challenge for the batsmen, but the one for the fourth game could be a batting paradise. In that case, batting second will be much easier under lights.


Stats and trivia




The last time West Indies came back from 1-2 down to win a series was against Zimbabwe in the 2003-04 season.


Bangladesh have a poor win-loss record in Dhaka - 24 won out of 84 - compared to other venues in the country - 18 wins out of 36 . . . . . . http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/story/595609.html

Zunaid
December 6, 2012, 06:45 AM
DHAKA, Thursday, 06 December 2012

Media Release

SAHARA CUP 2012: Mohammad Elias added to Bangladesh squad

Left arm spinner Mohammad Elias has been included in the Bangladesh squad as an additional member for the last two ODIs of the Sahara Cup series.

riajul
December 6, 2012, 06:53 AM
DHAKA, Thursday, 06 December 2012

Media Release

SAHARA CUP 2012: Mohammad Elias added to Bangladesh squad

Left arm spinner Mohammad Elias has been included in the Bangladesh squad as an additional member for the last two ODIs of the Sahara Cup series.

it means, he will replace rubel. its greate.
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Naimul_Hd
December 6, 2012, 06:57 AM
^^ good move. I say drop a pacer (prolly Rubel) and play another spinner.

3 genuine spinners (Shohag, Razzaq, Sunny) + 1 pacer (Mash) + 3 part timers (Riyad, Naeem, Mominul)

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 07:01 AM
it means, he will replace rubel. its greate.
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Don't be so sure..it probably depends on the team management, what combination they want to go...they have Zia and Sunny...to chose from.

Tiger Manc
December 6, 2012, 07:12 AM
At least they're learning from Asia Cup mistake.

My Team:

1. Tamim
2. Anamul
3. Naeem
4. Mushfiqur
5. Nasir
6. Mominul
7. Mahmudullah
8. Mashrafe
9. Sohag
10. Razzak
11. Elias

hoodlum
December 6, 2012, 07:21 AM
Kick out Naeem and bring in Zia. Sunny in for Rubel

1.Tamim
2.Anamul
3.Mushfiq
4.Mominul
5.Nasir
6.Mahmudullah
7.Zia
8.Sohag
9.Mashrafe
10.Sunny
11.Razzak

Sovik
December 6, 2012, 07:23 AM
just saw, Sunil narine, Ravi rampaul, and Darren bravo in basundhara city.
I asked them for a photo, but they denied.
Ravi rampaul has biceps as wide as my thighs

I met Rampaul a few times in Dublin. He didn't seem like a guy who would refuse to take photos

Ian Pont
December 6, 2012, 07:53 AM
Here's my fear... and it's a recurring nightmare for BD... the fast bowlers are slowly being eliminated one by one from Bangladesh Cricket.

It would appear, the best way for any fast bowler to secure a place in the team in the future, is to literally be an all rounder.

I don't deny that at this time, the fast bowling unit has been destroyed and why play bowlers who simply cannot perform well enough. But my point is that no other current teams would do what Bangladesh might do, and play just one pace bowler.

It's so very sad to witness, Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul all being set aside just 18 months after I left the role of bowling coach. Whatever the BCB has or hasn't learned, the fact you need to bring through fast bowlers to win Test matches and ODI's is sound. You do not dominate world cricket with spinners. No team ever has. It's either a pace attack to be scared of, or a batting line up that can chase down any target.

So very sad to see where the pace unit has come to

Nadim
December 6, 2012, 08:00 AM
Yesss. Rest Rubel and bring in Sunny pls. Let's win this and we can play 5 pacers in the last game;)
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mij
December 6, 2012, 08:12 AM
Yesss. Rest Rubel and bring in Sunny pls. Let's win this and we can play 5 pacers in the last game;)

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Out_You_Go
December 6, 2012, 08:16 AM
Here's my fear... and it's a recurring nightmare for BD... the fast bowlers are slowly being eliminated one by one from Bangladesh Cricket.

It would appear, the best way for any fast bowler to secure a place in the team in the future, is to literally be an all rounder.

I don't deny that at this time, the fast bowling unit has been destroyed and why play bowlers who simply cannot perform well enough. But my point is that no other current teams would do what Bangladesh might do, and play just one pace bowler.

It's so very sad to witness, Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul all being set aside just 18 months after I left the role of bowling coach. Whatever the BCB has or hasn't learned, the fact you need to bring through fast bowlers to win Test matches and ODI's is sound. You do not dominate world cricket with spinners. No team ever has. It's either a pace attack to be scared of, or a batting line up that can chase down any target.

So very sad to see where the pace unit has come to

Coach, just curious to know..do you think giving Rubel was a strategic mistake from Mushy or is it that Rubel could not deliver? Want your views on it..

Tiger444
December 6, 2012, 08:36 AM
Here's my fear... and it's a recurring nightmare for BD... the fast bowlers are slowly being eliminated one by one from Bangladesh Cricket.

It would appear, the best way for any fast bowler to secure a place in the team in the future, is to literally be an all rounder.

I don't deny that at this time, the fast bowling unit has been destroyed and why play bowlers who simply cannot perform well enough. But my point is that no other current teams would do what Bangladesh might do, and play just one pace bowler.

It's so very sad to witness, Rubel, Shafiul and Nazmul all being set aside just 18 months after I left the role of bowling coach. Whatever the BCB has or hasn't learned, the fact you need to bring through fast bowlers to win Test matches and ODI's is sound. You do not dominate world cricket with spinners. No team ever has. It's either a pace attack to be scared of, or a batting line up that can chase down any target.

So very sad to see where the pace unit has come to

Maybe we could be the first. :wink: We should also take in to account that Shafiul and especially Rubel had severe shoulder injuries and were out for quite some time. Maybe this is why both have struggled so far. T20s are a tough place to come back to and I feel Shafiul just couldn't find his feet. Rubel looked poor in the 1st innings of the 1st test but then looked much better. We have to remember also that before they got injured, they weren't the best of pacers. So it was a setback for sure. Nazmul has always had injury issues which has hampered his progress as well.

So overall I'm not too worried. I still remain optimistic about them. Yes they're far from finished products but I'm sure they'll get there and hope they don't suffer anymore severe injuries.
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Catskills
December 6, 2012, 09:08 AM
No Rubel please.... bring Shafiul or whoever.

roman
December 6, 2012, 09:08 AM
Yesss. Rest Rubel and bring in Sunny pls. Let's win this and we can play 5 pacers in the last game;)
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Couldn't agree more. We have a series to win here and we must do anything to do that. If playing one pacer can do that for us then so be it. No need to cry over pacers when they give away 24 runs in one over.

Ian Pont
December 6, 2012, 09:13 AM
Coach, just curious to know..do you think giving Rubel was a strategic mistake from Mushy or is it that Rubel could not deliver? Want your views on it..

A captain makes decisions assuming people are going to bowl well/bat well/field well etc. The problem is if a bowler has a shocker of an over then there's nothing you can do except take them off afterwards.

I cannot comment on whether Mushy felt he needed to 'gamble' with Rubel at at that stage or whether he wasn't happy to leave him an extra over closer to the end, but had Rubel bowled a great over, this conversation wouldn't be relevant.

You have to remember that Rubel is not in to field or bat, but to bowl and he is a front line bowler. It wasn't as if Mushy was asking Tamim to bowl, but a key bowler in his attack.

A captain cannot predict what is going to happen when he changes something. All things being equal he would have expected perhaps a wicket and just a handful of runs in that over.

My ORIGINAL point about only playing one pacer is relevant because this is a symptom of the general malaise affecting BD cricket right now. Had Rubel and Mash taken 4 wickets each, fans wouldn't be asking for a virtually all spin attack. I agree selectors have to pick the best sides to win matches 100%. No issues with that. I am simply concerned for the worsening of the pace bowlers in Bangladesh generally.

Someone has to take responsibility to improve them

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 09:41 AM
?................ ............ ........ I am simply concerned for the worsening of the pace bowlers in Bangladesh generally.

Someone has to take responsibility to improve them

That's a concern I'm sure, shared by every BD fan and all those associated with Bangladesh cricket.

Hope the people responsible, will do something to improve them....It's a serious issue for us, no doubt.

SS
December 6, 2012, 09:48 AM
My ORIGINAL point about only playing one pacer is relevant because this is a symptom of the general malaise affecting BD cricket right now. Had Rubel and Mash taken 4 wickets each, fans wouldn't be asking for a virtually all spin attack. I agree selectors have to pick the best sides to win matches 100%. No issues with that. I am simply concerned for the worsening of the pace bowlers in Bangladesh generally.

Someone has to take responsibility to improve them

Agree coach but I doubt anything will change abruptly now as we really have to win the remaining matches...but what is the future plan of BCB reviving the pace we have no clue...I doubt there is plan...after Mash all pacers are fading away due to so many problems you and fellow BC members mentioned. The problem is the mindset of cricket administrators and politicians probably very different than lots of us in this board (not to be hursh I wonder how they are eligible for such an important posts). I will be happy that day when many of us from here will have the opportunity to do something for our cricket. Our elite members who know way better than me already mentioned about the hurdles. But I hope next generation leaders will understand and put politics out of sports for betterment of BD cricket.

mufi_02
December 6, 2012, 09:52 AM
Kick out Naeem and bring in Zia. Sunny in for Rubel

1.Tamim
2.Anamul
3.Mushfiq
4.Mominul
5.Nasir
6.Mahmudullah
7.Zia
8.Sohag
9.Mashrafe
10.Sunny
11.Razzak
:up::up: This is the team that should play

mufi_02
December 6, 2012, 09:59 AM
The pacers are not being ostracized. Just look at Mash and see how well he bowled in this ODI series so far. He came back from a long break and still bowls with accuracy and got Gayle twice. Unfortunately, Rubel/Abul is no where near Mash. Why give them repeated chance when we know very well we could play Sunny who will perform better.

Up until the mid 90s, in ODIs the opening batsmen would play it sound and safe. Then the SL openers (Kaluwithrana/Jayasuriya) changed the dimension of the game by attacking and that became the norm now. Some time back, no one would open bowling with spinners. But not slowly that has been adapted by many teams. You do what works for you. If Rubel/Abul performed, then we would drop a spinner and go with 3 seamers.

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 10:00 AM
Yes pace bowling is a major issue in Bangladesh but its certainly solvable. First alter a lot of your Cricket pitches and make them fast and bouncy so that not only it encourages our fast bowlers but our batsman can play the short pitched ball with ease which I'm sorry to say, has been our downfall. Question; why do you think the 4 subcontinent teams have have the best spinners compared to the non-subcontinent teams? - its because of their pitches that's why!

Saifulsohel
December 6, 2012, 10:10 AM
BCB tried to start remaining ODIs 1.5 hour earlier to mitigate dew factor.But but WI didnt agree.

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 10:30 AM
Yes pace bowling is a major issue in Bangladesh but its certainly solvable. First alter a lot of your Cricket pitches and make them fast and bouncy so that not only it encourages our fast bowlers but our batsman can play the short pitched ball with ease which I'm sorry to say, has been our downfall. Question; why do you think the 4 subcontinent teams have have the best spinners compared to the non-subcontinent teams? - its because of their pitches that's why!

Pak doesn't have pitches like SA/Aus....all dead pitches too. But they keep producing pacers and they are effective even in dead pitches. So pitch isn't a big issue for producing pacers.

TamimFan
December 6, 2012, 10:33 AM
Bring Zia instead of Naeem and Sunny instead of Rubel.
Zia can bowl 3-4 overs as Rubel-Raju does that for us.
Including Sunny will increase our bowling strength.Let Zia come at number 3.Hope he wont disappoint us.
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Nadim
December 6, 2012, 10:43 AM
BCB tried to start remaining ODIs 1.5 hour earlier to mitigate dew factor.But but WI didnt agree.
WI doraiche :floor:

no worries. kalke they will lose:fanflag:

i just hope they play in similar pitch :ohno:

Tiger444
December 6, 2012, 10:54 AM
I agree with playing Elias instead of Rubel. Obviously it would make our attack more unbalanced but if it can give us a better chance to win, then why not? It's not like Abul or Rubel were really effective anyways and even Mominul looked a better option compared to Rubel. Playing just 1 pacer may not work against other teams but why care about that now? We should focus on winning this series and it's clear WI still don't have a clear idea on how to play our spinners.

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 11:02 AM
DHAKA, Thursday, 06 December 2012

Media Release

SAHARA CUP 2012: Mohammad Elias added to Bangladesh squad

Left arm spinner Mohammad Elias has been included in the Bangladesh squad as an additional member for the last two ODIs of the Sahara Cup series.

I thought that Sunny was in the squad. We were playing 2 spinners in every match and we had only 2 spinners in the squad? That was a decision then.

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 11:05 AM
BCB tried to start remaining ODIs 1.5 hour earlier to mitigate dew factor.But but WI didnt agree.

Very interesting news.
Is WI trying to ride on luck? They are in fear thats for sure.

mali007
December 6, 2012, 11:05 AM
Good news of Sunny's inclusion . Sunny has good record against WI . Sunny for Naeem and Ziz for Rubel, that was my original post.

al-Sagar
December 6, 2012, 11:06 AM
No Rubel please.... bring Shafiul or whoever.

what about shahadat ???

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 11:11 AM
Pak doesn't have pitches like SA/Aus....all dead pitches too. But they keep producing pacers and they are effective even in dead pitches. So pitch isn't a big issue for producing pacers.

Its one of the biggest issues. Pakistani players are naturally gifted! :P

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 11:13 AM
Good news of Sunny's inclusion . Sunny has good record against WI . Sunny for Naeem and Ziz for Rubel, that was my original post.

I think they can get away by using 1 pace bowler in the last 2 matches considering the pitch will still remain the same. Just need to hope we win the toss for once and field first. Rahman can bowl some decent medium pacers anyway so I agree with your selection.

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 11:30 AM
Its one of the biggest issues. Pakistani players are naturally gifted! :P

It's easy to bypass issues by calling it a naturally gifted thing. But I'm sure, they have some system to do that, environment to encourage that or incentives for doing that so it's the result of something that can be done. A skill set can't be so much naturally gifted and genetically passed down, skill is something that needs to be acquired, well, some people might have advantage in learning something faster. Otherwise, Gavaskar's son should have become naturally another Gavaskar and Imrans son another Imran...when you give so much to natural gift, that has to be more genetic as well....

Dead pitches encouraged them to master the art of generating more pace, control, accuracy, movement through air etc....pitch comes into effect only after the ball pitches.

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
WI doraiche :floor:

no worries. kalke they will lose:fanflag:

i just hope they play in similar pitch :ohno:

Just imagine West Indies lost the toss and had to field second and leave with all that regret.

RB_Cricket
December 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
lol.. Something to laugh about..Just saw it on cricinfo : (3rd Odi ) http://www.espncricinfo.com/page2/content/current/story/595403.html

"Close encounter
Tamim fielded in front of our gallery for a large portion of the West Indies innings, but was not received well by the crowd, especially after he reacted late to a shot and then let another couple go without so much as moving in the ball's direction. However, one valiant save was all it took for him to regain the crowd's support.
Sunil Narine, fielding near us during the first innings, was given directions to Narayanganj, a small city close to Dhaka, and told that Tamim and Mahmudullah would send his deliveries there."

Goodluck Tiger..Lets hope tamim and Mah. both can deliver and we can scure our series victory tonight....

mali007
December 6, 2012, 12:03 PM
In 70s and 80s India was weak in Pace attack, only Kapil was a class ! Now India has quite a few world class pacers and it was possible for their long term planning to produce pacers. Legendary Dennis Lily helped India through MRF academy to produce good quality pacers . We need that type of Academy in our country to produce pacers.

sadhat
December 6, 2012, 12:06 PM
I think it's Roti and beef. Seriously its energy and nutrition. look at sahadat he bowl two three overs and seems like his tongue is coming out.
It's easy to bypass issues by calling it a naturally gifted thing. But I'm sure, they have some system to do that, environment to encourage that or incentives for doing that so it's the result of something that can be done. A skill set can't be so much naturally gifted and genetically passed down, skill is something that needs to be acquired, well, some people might have advantage in learning something faster. Otherwise, Gavaskar's son should have become naturally another Gavaskar and Imrans son another Imran...when you give so much to natural gift, that has to be more genetic as well....

Dead pitches encouraged them to master the art of generating more pace, control, accuracy, movement through air etc....pitch comes into effect only after the ball pitches.

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 12:18 PM
It's easy to bypass issues by calling it a naturally gifted thing. But I'm sure, they have some system to do that, environment to encourage that or incentives for doing that so it's the result of something that can be done. A skill set can't be so much naturally gifted and genetically passed down, skill is something that needs to be acquired, well, some people might have advantage in learning something faster. Otherwise, Gavaskar's son should have become naturally another Gavaskar and Imrans son another Imran...when you give so much to natural gift, that has to be more genetic as well....

Dead pitches encouraged them to master the art of generating more pace, control, accuracy, movement through air etc....pitch comes into effect only after the ball pitches.


Pakistani fast bowlers eat a lot and Bangladeshi's don't. The difference between the 2 sets of fast bowling countries is the knowledge on how the body works and what you can do to benefit yourself if you're a fast bowler. The only fast bowlers of Bangladesh that have worked on their bodies are Mashrafe and Nazmul who are clearly two of our best fast bowlers at the moment so no surprises. The others like Rubel and Shafiul are too fragile and skinny and despite having played for over 2 years of International Cricket, we have yet to see them improving their physique.

mac
December 6, 2012, 12:21 PM
Its one of the biggest issues. Pakistani players are naturally gifted! :P

Mainly because Pakistanis in general have physical structure better suited for pace bowling. 95% of the amatuer/teeange Pakistanis (Not professional) have crap batting technique (Hit or miss) but 25% of them can bowl at high pace (130+). On the other hand you will often see a teenage boy with great batting technique in Bangladesh in each para team (Most of them leave cricket due to lack of opportunity/society/education) but you will hardly find genuine quick bowlers.

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 12:26 PM
@BANFAN: Yes your points are somewhat true but trust me, bowling fast on these slowish low wickets will get you bored in no time which is natural for the human mind where as bowling on fast bouncy wickets will encourage you to bowl for hours all the time again natural for our minds. That's why altering some of our pitches will provide a good start in producing very good fast bowlers. Other factors like, speed, height, weight etc are beneficial but not crucial.

MyRoom
December 6, 2012, 12:30 PM
@Mac: Yes what you said is true.

mac
December 6, 2012, 12:40 PM
It's easy to bypass issues by calling it a naturally gifted thing. But I'm sure, they have some system to do that, environment to encourage that or incentives for doing that so it's the result of something that can be done. A skill set can't be so much naturally gifted and genetically passed down, skill is something that needs to be acquired, well, some people might have advantage in learning something faster. Otherwise, Gavaskar's son should have become naturally another Gavaskar and Imrans son another Imran...when you give so much to natural gift, that has to be more genetic as well....

Dead pitches encouraged them to master the art of generating more pace, control, accuracy, movement through air etc....pitch comes into effect only after the ball pitches.

Firstly, he bowl fast because they can physically.

More than dead pitch, the Pakis prefer bowling fast because anything slow will result in ball dispersing (Trust me, I have played 4 years with them) by the blind swings of the Pak batsman in genereal. But when you bowl fast then the batsman (blind sloggers) face trouble.

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 01:11 PM
Bishwajit Roy

It seems that this winter has not been too cold on the Bangladeshi newcomers as the addition of Shohag Gazi, Mominul Haque and Anamul Haque has provided a boost to the national side. The trio already made their arrival felt but they have also seen both sides of the coin following Bangladesh's defeat in the third match after two convincing wins in Khulna. After the four-wicket loss in the third game at Mirpur, the million dollar question is: will Bangladesh be able to win the series against the formidable West Indies?

Without doubt the winter would be more remarkable for the three newcomers if they can be part of a series-winning team and contribute something to the success. It however will not be an easy task even though the home side is leading the series 2-1 and showed some character even in defeat as West Indies' top performers like Marlon Samuels and Sunil Narine showed their class in the third ODI. A carefree Gazi, a smart Anamul and a shy Mominul were however confident enough about winning the series and they were hopeful that the dream can come true today when the fourth match will take place at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur, starting at 2.30pm.

While Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim was reluctant to speak to the media on the eve of the fourth game yesterday, a rest day for the Tigers, his young brigade were however eager to express their determination and all three were praying that their skipper calls rightly at the toss for the first time in the series. Unlike the third game the pitch for the fourth game could be a batting paradise, in which case batting second will be much easier under lights, so luck at the toss is important for both teams in the day-night affair. . . . . . . .http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=260179

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 01:13 PM
A real belief in the team: Jurgensen
Naimul Karim

It was a top-notch all-round performance by the Tigers in Khulna that gave them the two crucial wins over the West Indies in the beginning of the series. However, with the visitors having pulled one back on Wednesday, courtesy of a brilliant century by Marlon Samuels, the question that lingers in the minds of the thousands of Bangladeshi supporters is whether the hosts can keep their calm and pull off at least one win in the coming days.

Interim head coach Shane Jurgensen, who has been with the team for close to two years now, certainly thinks so and claimed to have noticed a positive change in the attitude of the players in the last couple of series.

“I think there's a real belief there. The boys know that we missed out on a little opportunity on Wednesday. What's changed in this team I think is their belief. We stumbled upon the Asia Cup and did well, we won against Ireland in the T20s and winning creates a good habit,” said Jurgensen in an interview with The Daily Star yesterday. “The team now understands what we do well when we win and what we didn't quite get right when we lose. That's a good sign,” he added. . . . . . . http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=260181

HereWeGo
December 6, 2012, 01:16 PM
Indians and Bangladeshi's are probably the weakest in terms of physical strength compared to any other test playing nations... So at the end of the day these two countries traditionally had to rely on skills rather than strength.....

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 01:26 PM
Indians and Bangladeshi's are probably the weakest in terms of physical strength compared to any other test playing nations... So at the end of the day these two countries traditionally had to rely on skills rather than strength.....

Add Srilanka there.

dark mage
December 6, 2012, 01:30 PM
Nope! Despite what they look like, Srilankans are rather strong.

raad007
December 6, 2012, 01:34 PM
Hope fully BD will go with only one pacer in this match

t@req
December 6, 2012, 01:38 PM
Bangladesh can take a risk by giving a chance to Elias Sunny, Rubel having some problems with his line and length.

Nadim
December 6, 2012, 01:39 PM
Bangladesh ajke hotel e bose bose biyrani kaiche. Let's see how that affect tomorrow...:waiting:

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 01:46 PM
Bangladesh ajke hotel e bose bose biyrani kaiche. Let's see how that affect tomorrow...:waiting:

More slip catches with slippery hands.....:)

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 01:57 PM
Unlike the third game the pitch for the fourth game could be a batting paradise, in which case batting second will be much easier under lights, so luck at the toss is important for both teams in the day-night affair. .

If this is the case, then I would prefer to have a batsman like Zia ... Than a specialist bowler. If we chase, we need someone capable of big hitting ... Team is already loaded with too many slow batsman..

wktkeeper
December 6, 2012, 01:58 PM
bring sunny for rubel. and remove oils with pure deshi sand from our slip catchers :)

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 02:04 PM
I think it's Roti and beef. Seriously its energy and nutrition. look at sahadat he bowl two three overs and seems like his tongue is coming out.

Pakistani fast bowlers eat a lot and Bangladeshi's don't. The difference between the 2 sets of fast bowling countries is the knowledge on how the body works and what you can do to benefit yourself if you're a fast bowler. The only fast bowlers of Bangladesh that have worked on their bodies are Mashrafe and Nazmul who are clearly two of our best fast bowlers at the moment so no surprises. The others like Rubel and Shafiul are too fragile and skinny and despite having played for over 2 years of International Cricket, we have yet to see them improving their physique.

Firstly, he bowl fast because they can physically.

More than dead pitch, the Pakis prefer bowling fast because anything slow will result in ball dispersing (Trust me, I have played 4 years with them) by the blind swings of the Pak batsman in genereal. But when you bowl fast then the batsman (blind sloggers) face trouble.

As per professional pace bowling coach Ian Pont....strength, roti and beaf has nothing to do with bowling fast. You can read some of his posts n this forum...on his thread.

You just need to have the desire to bowl fast and need to know how to bowl fast....finally do the hard work to achieve accuracy through relentless practice...that's what Pakistanis do best.... Hard Work

roman
December 6, 2012, 02:41 PM
According to Inqilab, Zia/Shafiul and Sunny might replace Nayeem and Rubel. If that's the case, series win here we cone. :)

mufi_02
December 6, 2012, 03:09 PM
According to Inqilab, Zia/Shafiul and Sunny might replace Nayeem and Rubel. If that's the case, series win here we cone. :)

bhai apni ekhono Inqilab poren? This is KalerKantho jamana :D

simon
December 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
will have to miss this match too,hope we win the series insha allah.:flag:

roman
December 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
bhai apni ekhono Inqilab poren? This is KalerKantho jamana :D

Series cholle shob pori :)

roman
December 6, 2012, 03:21 PM
will have to miss this match too,hope we win the series insha allah.:flag:

Keno bhai? Apnake chara MT to jome na..

simon
December 6, 2012, 03:24 PM
Keno bhai? Apnake chara MT to jome na..

hehe,might join at the end,hope to witness the series win.

And about tomorrow's team I just saw ZeeAh on TV giving interview,so pretty much confirmed he will play.
And why SHophiul? :facepalm:

BANFAN
December 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-west-indies-2012/content/current/story/595609.html
Match facts

December 7, 2012
Start time 1430 (0830 GMT)

Marlon Samuels showed the value of grinding it out and it's up to the other batsmen to follow suit © Associated Press
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Having got one must-win game out of the way, West Indies are facing another in order to draw level with Bangladesh in the five-ODI series. One wrong step in Mirpur on Friday could make the final match on Saturday a dead rubber and consign West Indies to a series defeat, a backward step after their recent success in international cricket.
....
Quotes

"We can't focus on two games so we will take it step by step. We can't afford to pressure ourselves when we are coming from the back."
Marlon Samuels, the West Indies batsman, says that plan is to just focus on the next game

"We will go hard and aggressive to win the last two matches, we are not feeling too much pressure."
Bangladesh bowler Mahmudullah


Looks like Mushy is still ins hibernation....

AMD128
December 6, 2012, 03:33 PM
Heard that BD team didn't practice today except for Shafiul & Zia. :/

NoName
December 6, 2012, 04:03 PM
Ban Mirpur if we lose these 2 matches:D

jisaan
December 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
Bishwajit Roy

It seems that this winter has not been too cold on the Bangladeshi newcomers as the addition of Shohag Gazi, Mominul Haque and Anamul Haque has provided a boost to the national side. The trio already made their arrival felt but they have also seen both sides of the coin following Bangladesh's defeat in the third match after two convincing wins in Khulna. After the four-wicket loss in the third game at Mirpur, the million dollar question is: will Bangladesh be able to win the series against the formidable West Indies?

Without doubt the winter would be more remarkable for the three newcomers if they can be part of a series-winning team and contribute something to the success. It however will not be an easy task even though the home side is leading the series 2-1 and showed some character even in defeat as West Indies' top performers like Marlon Samuels and Sunil Narine showed their class in the third ODI. A carefree Gazi, a smart Anamul and a shy Mominul were however confident enough about winning the series and they were hopeful that the dream can come true today when the fourth match will take place at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur, starting at 2.30pm.

While Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim was reluctant to speak to the media on the eve of the fourth game yesterday, a rest day for the Tigers, his young brigade were however eager to express their determination and all three were praying that their skipper calls rightly at the toss for the first time in the series. Unlike the third game the pitch for the fourth game could be a batting paradise, in which case batting second will be much easier under lights, so luck at the toss is important for both teams in the day-night affair. . . . . . . .http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=260179

the reporter forgot ZIA! hope it's his turn to shine on debut!

meazz1
December 6, 2012, 04:18 PM
I hope Gayle does not go ballistic on us today, that's my first fear. Secondly I hope Tamim puts on a decent score. Usually if the gives us a good foundation, our middle order does better.

reyme
December 6, 2012, 05:34 PM
If they play with 2 pacers again, I have to say these bolods will never learn.

KnightBD
December 6, 2012, 06:02 PM
Inclusion of Sunny in the team suggest a change in the playing 11 in place of Rubel... It might be a good move if the wicket is the same as last one....

i have a hunch that tigers might be able to pull it off this time around :flag:

BengaliPagol
December 6, 2012, 06:02 PM
Cant wait to see this lineup in action when Shakib is back
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Anamul Haque
3. Mominul Haque
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Mahmudullah
8. Mashrafe Mortaza
9. Sohag Gazi
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Rubel Hossain

KnightBD
December 6, 2012, 06:05 PM
According to Inqilab, Zia/Shafiul and Sunny might replace Nayeem and Rubel. If that's the case, series win here we cone. :)

Nayeem is primarily batsman, how can we change be changed with either Shafiul or Sunny? Zia ... maybe... but not as 1 down....:-/

Roni_uk
December 6, 2012, 06:47 PM
so Zia replaces Nayeem and Shafiul replaces Rubel - we are doomed!

AsifTheManRahman
December 6, 2012, 06:49 PM
Khub tension hocche bhais, buk er baam pashtay kemon chin chin betha hocche sharadin. Amra jitbo to? Ei khela harle kintu series shesh. Ami to Tamim er moto cigarette fuki na...tension barle blood pressure pura 160-180 uthe jaay.
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AsifTheManRahman
December 6, 2012, 06:51 PM
Shafiul? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Dilscoop
December 6, 2012, 07:06 PM
Why are people asking for 3 spinners? How's that gonna help? Ever heard of variation? You guys eat enough bhat as it is! Mix it up!

Look how AC is managing his 2 spinners, and look what happened to India with their one dimensional attack.

reyme
December 6, 2012, 07:13 PM
Khub tension hocche bhais, buk er baam pashtay kemon chin chin betha hocche sharadin. Amra jitbo to? Ei khela harle kintu series shesh. Ami to Tamim er moto cigarette fuki na...tension barle blood pressure pura 160-180 uthe jaay.
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No tension, do furty!

Just watch nantu Ghotok on YouTube!!

reyme
December 6, 2012, 07:28 PM
Why are people asking for 3 spinners? How's that gonna help? Ever heard of variation? You guys eat enough bhat as it is! Mix it up!

Look how AC is managing his 2 spinners, and look what happened to India with their one dimensional attack.


That's because our pitch are not pace friendly, at least not for the pacers we have. Spinners don't mean same types. One SLA, one off spin and another SLA, with more flight are definitely more variation than our one dimensional two pacers, who are not capable of any variation. It is the pacers who are losing us games one after another. Remember Asia cup?

The point is 4 best ODI bowlers should play and i dont see any top 4 bowlers are pacers. We must come out of some pre conceived idea that at least 2 pacers "must" play. Select the team based on our strength and opposition weakness, that's the point!

reyme
December 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
Shafiul is just as bad as Rubel...will the selectors ever learn? Even Rasel would have been better than these 2, not to mention Nazmul!

Rubel is a total flop in NCL yet he gets a nod. And see how he just ruined the game

Antora
December 6, 2012, 07:56 PM
shafiul ? oh dear!

zinatf
December 6, 2012, 08:05 PM
Wish you all the best Offstump bhai :)

NoName
December 6, 2012, 08:10 PM
Could have gone with another spinner instead of Shafiul cause we have just essentially taken out one spinner and brought in two pacers, Zia and Shafiul.

Mushy better use Zia to bowl if Shafiul is being smacked around all over the field, cause pressures on Gayle to perform and if he does....lol Shafiul will break his own record with his bowling figures.

reyme
December 6, 2012, 08:27 PM
I thought Shafiul gave away 80 some runs in one ODI. And he is back!
I thought Our country is full of "smart" people, but when it comes to cricket team management....

al Furqaan
December 6, 2012, 08:28 PM
I guess Nazmul is still injured.

NoName
December 6, 2012, 08:40 PM
I thought Shafiul gave away 80 some runs in one ODI. And he is back!
I thought Our country is full of "smart" people, but when it comes to cricket team management....

He has gone for an econ rate of 9+ a couple of times without completing his full quota but bowling at least 7 overs.

M.H.Rubel
December 6, 2012, 08:43 PM
Good morning boys. A big day for us. Hoping for something good. If we are a big team we will have to prove that. No matter we win or lose the toss.

kalpurush
December 6, 2012, 08:47 PM
Good morning boys. A big day for us. Hoping for something good. If we are a big team we will have to prove that. No matter we win or lose the toss.
It's today, or never!

kalpurush
December 6, 2012, 08:47 PM
shafiul ? oh dear!
Here comes Sunny!

KaaL-PurusH
December 6, 2012, 09:05 PM
How do u guys know that zia & shafiul replacing naeem & rubel? ?

SS
December 6, 2012, 09:12 PM
I can't believe they are taking Shafiul...pacers won't make any difference rather they will score 100 runs in first 10 overs and then they will give away the match near end...worthless pacers ...never work hard to rectify them (exception Mash)

Saifulsohel
December 6, 2012, 09:13 PM
According to PA,Sunny may replace Rubel.It's the only change.

Fazal
December 6, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jaak Baba Zia Chance paise. Plus Saiful can hit. So batting is pretty set up. But at the cost of bowling. I would rather take Sunny instead of Saiful.

Fazal
December 6, 2012, 09:41 PM
Daily Star is saying

"Left-arm spinner Elias Sunny has been drafted into the Bangladesh squad and it is possible, with off-spinner Shohag Gazi already opening the bowling, that Sunny may replace pacer Rubel Hossain for today's match in order to increase the hosts' spin advantage. Another less likely change is Jahurul Islam taking the place of batsman Naeem Islam."

.. That's not bad. Beacusae Sunny instead of Rubel would mske abig difference in bowling. However I would rather take Zia instead of Jahirul.

NoName
December 6, 2012, 09:55 PM
Could have gone with Zia instead of Jahurul, give him a try and he can bowl at least.

Sovik
December 6, 2012, 10:11 PM
Winning this match will not be that hard. Windies doesn't stand a chance against Gazi and Sunny. 43 overs of spin at least

Rifat
December 6, 2012, 10:14 PM
Khub tension hocche bhais, buk er baam pashtay kemon chin chin betha hocche sharadin. Amra jitbo to? Ei khela harle kintu series shesh. Ami to Tamim er moto cigarette fuki na...tension barle blood pressure pura 160-180 uthe jaay.
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ek glass thanda pani(with honey) khawar por perasitamol kheye ekkhan ghum den, dekhben bhalo lagbe....:)

Rinathq
December 6, 2012, 10:18 PM
if Sunny is taken, Zia has to be taken as well. even a 3-4 over spell in the middle over might be useful from Zia and not to mention his batting. Sunny, well, in this situation, bowling 3 specialist spinners, i dont expect him to be great. However, rest assured he will be more economical than Rubel, Shafiul. If he can save 15-20 runs... his position is justified for me. dont forget how West Indies suffered against Sunny last year.

Fazal
December 6, 2012, 10:24 PM
Ajke mone hoi zithbo....khali bad luck ta beshi bad na holeyee hoi.

Fielding-e Razzak khali taki mach dhore... oke 10 over ball korie tara tari locker room-e patheyee diley kichu run save hobe.

Tiger-ess
December 6, 2012, 10:36 PM
When does match start? Cricinfo said 8.30, it is now 9.36 and still no sign of match !!

zunaid_bd
December 6, 2012, 10:39 PM
match start at bdt 2:30 another 4 hours left ...Mushi should win the toss ..feeling tensed

Tiger-ess
December 6, 2012, 10:42 PM
^^ 2.30 ?? Dhurrrrrr!

cricbook
December 6, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nayeem is primarily batsman, how can we change be changed with either Shafiul or Sunny? Zia ... maybe... but not as 1 down....:-/

mominul will be one down.....he played many times in that position...trust me....if zia and sunny play today...we will win...........if not....i am telling the bc modetore ....BAND ME......I AM TAKING MY CHANCE....GO BD GO.:flag::flag::flag::)

cricbook
December 6, 2012, 11:01 PM
Ban Mirpur if we lose these 2 matches:D

I AM WITH U......I HATE PLAYING MIRPUR.:up:......i feel like our players r tired in playing mirpur....no worry...khulna..sylet...chitogong...koksbazar is coming up...

mali007
December 6, 2012, 11:07 PM
Due to due factor ban D/N in winter.

Saifulsohel
December 6, 2012, 11:18 PM
When does match start? Cricinfo said 8.30, it is now 9.36 and still no sign of match !!

broadcaster could not book satelite for day match,they booked for 1.5hr early start.But WI denied.

bd4gboy
December 6, 2012, 11:20 PM
BEst of luck for Bangladesh cricket team

kazis2007
December 6, 2012, 11:20 PM
can anyone please help me with one queries..
Does bangladesh have any chance to play ICC champions trophy in june 2013.
If not then could anyone pls tell me the reason!!
Bangladesh already in number 8 ranking in ODI.

al-Sagar
December 6, 2012, 11:39 PM
khela ajke besh jome uthbe .......

sei asha korsi .....

ami jokhon mymensigh e thaki bd bhao khele, that was the case when the NZ whitewash happenned

i am in mymensingh today

al-Sagar
December 6, 2012, 11:44 PM
khela ajke besh jome uthbe .......

sei asha korsi .....

ami jokhon mymensigh e thaki bd bhao khele, that was the case when the NZ whitewash happenned

i am in mymensingh today

al Furqaan
December 6, 2012, 11:51 PM
Mushy ought to win the damn toss today!

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 12:24 AM
khela ajke besh jome uthbe .......

sei asha korsi .....

ami jokhon mymensigh e thaki bd bhao khele, that was the case when the NZ whitewash happenned

i am in mymensingh today

WOW, taileto confirm jitbo.......:)

And if we win today, you earn the right to have a bungalow in Moymonshing, from BCB...:)

Habib
December 7, 2012, 12:26 AM
Mushy ought to win the damn toss today!

Indeed. Otherwise, it'll be 2-2.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 12:28 AM
Due to due factor ban D/N in winter.

We had some pre series prep in dew, I guess....

ashrafi_mahb
December 7, 2012, 12:44 AM
guys selectors knows the best believe in them. :)

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 12:49 AM
I thought Shafiul gave away 80 some runs in one ODI. And he is back!
I thought Our country is full of "smart" people, but when it comes to cricket team management....

Smart in destructive assignments .....

Habib
December 7, 2012, 12:55 AM
guys selectors knows the best believe in them. :)

Once upon a time, I also believed my mom knows the best.

mac
December 7, 2012, 12:57 AM
jaitesi...stadium jaitesi...

mac
December 7, 2012, 01:00 AM
Dew is very heavy today..win the toss mushy. practice flipping the coin.

mac
December 7, 2012, 01:02 AM
I was present at SBNS during the series winning match against NZ.

NoName
December 7, 2012, 01:05 AM
guys selectors knows the best believe in them. :)

:floor:

Habib
December 7, 2012, 01:08 AM
I was present at SBNS during the series winning match against NZ.

Go Mac! Win the series for us :)

Maysun
December 7, 2012, 01:24 AM
jaitesi...stadium jaitesi...

Have fun. Hope you're the charm and win us the series ;)

Shehwar
December 7, 2012, 01:43 AM
Hope Mushy can win the toss and the match!

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 01:46 AM
jaitesi...stadium jaitesi...

Best of luck....:)

Yameen
December 7, 2012, 01:50 AM
off to work! Good luck Bangladesh

Bonglababu
December 7, 2012, 02:01 AM
Equation is simple. Win the toss and bowl tight.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 02:04 AM
Equation is simple. Win the toss and bowl tight.

Then bat well...:)

Bonglababu
December 7, 2012, 02:08 AM
abar jigay :)

mr cricket
December 7, 2012, 02:21 AM
can anyone please help me with one queries..
Does bangladesh have any chance to play ICC champions trophy in june 2013.
If not then could anyone pls tell me the reason!!
Bangladesh already in number 8 ranking in ODI.

No, we were ranked 9 during the cut off date, so we didn't make it.

It's not like we stand a chance against Australia and England anyways. So don't worry about it.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 02:30 AM
Less than an hour remaining....

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 02:39 AM
i don't care abt toss....even if we have to bat first....just play normal game....like sensible batting...3rd odi we had a rough time with bat...but this time it won't happen...i can see the vision ...we won today.....belive me..tigers will be hungry today...they need meat...they will be hunt....just matter...how many way ....they gona eat the deer....:flag:

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 02:44 AM
No, we were ranked 9 during the cut off date, so we didn't make it.

It's not like we stand a chance against Australia and England anyways. So don't worry about it.

I am not with u.....austrillia, yes u can say that...but england.....with this team we have...after we found some gold like....gazi,anamul,abul,nassir,mominu,.....we will rock any team...except aus and sa.....but still we will fight with those two teams....otherwise...any team, any where, any condition.....we will hunt.....bcas....we r not just a tiger....we r royal begol tigers......je dhore,mare,khai......:)

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 02:44 AM
i don't care abt toss....even if we have to bat first....just play normal game....like sensible batting...3rd odi we had a rough time with bat...but this time it won't happen...i can see the vision ...we won today.....belive me..tigers will be hungry today...they need meat...they will be hunt....just matter...how many way ....they gona eat the deer....:flag:

Correct....if we had 25-30 runs more, we could have won the last match too....

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 02:51 AM
Bismillah. Allah malik. Boys make it our day.

mali007
December 7, 2012, 02:51 AM
Just wake up , 1st eleven kemon hoy ,sei chintay achi

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 02:57 AM
Just wake up , 1st eleven kemon hoy ,sei chintay achi

That's still suspense......:)

Sovik
December 7, 2012, 02:57 AM
Half an hour to go. Should be a good contest. Windies should bat first then narine and Co will bowl with a wet bar of soap

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 02:59 AM
Half an hour to go. Should be a good contest. Windies should bat first then narine and Co will bowl with a wet bar of soap

More like Pocha Ball Shaban.....:)

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:01 AM
Today, CI commits are also late to open their shop....:)

sadhat
December 7, 2012, 03:04 AM
As per professional pace bowling coach Ian Pont....strength, roti and beaf has nothing to do with bowling fast. You can read some of his posts n this forum...on his thread.

You just need to have the desire to bowl fast and need to know how to bowl fast....finally do the hard work to achieve accuracy through relentless practice...that's what Pakistanis do best.... Hard Work

Pakistanis and hard work??? You gotta be kidding me! They are most indiscipline team in cricket history. Inzy looks hard working guy to you? Soeb Aktar is not hard working guy at all. I remember he did not bowl saying he is injured during India Paki match. Faltu!

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:05 AM
Today, CI commits are also late to open their shop....:)

I also thinking the same. But its on now.

Nadim
December 7, 2012, 03:06 AM
2.00 pm, Toss And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first. Dew is an obvious concern.
Finally Mushy won the toss :D

Hawk-Eye
December 7, 2012, 03:06 AM
2.00 pm, Toss And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first. Dew is an obvious concern.

MohammedC
December 7, 2012, 03:07 AM
Will miss the whole match

AMD128
December 7, 2012, 03:07 AM
And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first

Source:Cricinfo

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:07 AM
2.00 pm, Toss And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first. Dew is an obvious concern.
Finally Mushy won the toss :D

Thanks for a good news Nadim.

riajul
December 7, 2012, 03:08 AM
2.00 pm, Toss And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first. Dew is an obvious concern.
Finally Mushy won the toss :D

Jaak. eibar bowling valo holei hoy.
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Nadim
December 7, 2012, 03:08 AM
Elias Sunny, who was drafted into the squad last evening, comes into the side in place of Rubel Hossain, who went for aplenty last game. Kemar Roach has replaced Ravi Rampaul, who had a bit of a niggle last game and did not bowl his quota.
-CI

Rinathq
December 7, 2012, 03:09 AM
Elias in Rubel out :))))

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:09 AM
2.00 pm, Toss And the news from Dhaka is that Bangladesh have won the toss and decided that will bowl first. Dew is an obvious concern.
Finally Mushy won the toss :D

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:flag::flag: :flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:....told u guys....its our day.......i had a vision......:flag:

Nadim
December 7, 2012, 03:09 AM
Target 1: Done!
Target 2: Get Gayle and Samuel within the PP.

mali007
December 7, 2012, 03:10 AM
Alhamdulillah , have won the toss , Now Mushy use your brain .

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:10 AM
Sunny in.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:11 AM
All good news so far. Would have preferred Zia instead of Naeem...as we are chasing...

mali007
December 7, 2012, 03:12 AM
Open with Razzak this time .

MyRoom
December 7, 2012, 03:12 AM
Yes!, Yes!, Yes! finally! we have won the toss! just hope that the selection is right!!!! Zia and Sunny for Naeem and Rubel.

Hamlafan
December 7, 2012, 03:13 AM
I think we can pretty much (90%) win the game today, TOSS HUGE FACTOR.

al-Sagar
December 7, 2012, 03:13 AM
mushy to toss jite gelo...... tahole mushy kee as captain tike gelo ???

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:14 AM
Jaak. eibar bowling valo holei hoy.
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bhai....onno din jinina.....mark my word....ajke wi er khel khotom....banglar bag....ajke japaya porbo oder upor.....no question abt it....just dekhen ki hoi.....ajke apni,amra,ami ....shobar eid din....allah malik.:up::)

al-Sagar
December 7, 2012, 03:14 AM
ajke sokale mirpur e doto porshu er cheye beshi kuasha chilo

gotokal shondhateu beshy kuasha chilo aager diner cheye.

asha kori aaj seirokom dew porbe

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:15 AM
Target 1: Done!
Target 2: Get Gayle and Samuel within the PP.

ajke time nai...smuel er....ha...gayle kisu valki dekhate pare...amar six sence bolse....but will fall quickly...and we will win comfortly

al-Sagar
December 7, 2012, 03:15 AM
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Live watch Ban VS West 4th one day match.4th ODI one day match Bangladesh VS Westindies live score and live streaming (http://www.cricball.com/bangladesh-vs-westindies-4th-odi-live-streaming-and-live-score-2/) form channel 9 and NEO Prime from Mirpur in Dhaka.
Bangladesh VS West Indies 4th ODI match will be start on 2:30 PM local time 8:30 GMT on 7 December.

from another thread

Hamlafan
December 7, 2012, 03:15 AM
one pacer in the squad, might see Tamim Bowl one or two:)

riajul
December 7, 2012, 03:16 AM
bhai....onno din jinina.....mark my word....ajke wi er khel khotom....banglar bag....ajke japaya porbo oder upor.....no question abt it....just dekhen ki hoi.....ajke apni,amra,ami ....shobar eid din....allah malik.:up::)

Allah malik.
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Antora
December 7, 2012, 03:16 AM
Woooot we won the toss!

Shehwar
December 7, 2012, 03:16 AM
Alhamdulillah! Watching Sports Daily until the match starts! :)

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:17 AM
Open with Razzak this time .

It will be a poor decision.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:17 AM
Open with Razzak this time .

Already decided to open with Gazi....and Mushy never changes any pre match decisions during the match.....go boy...:)

AMD128
December 7, 2012, 03:17 AM
Yes!, Yes!, Yes! finally! we have won the toss! just hope that the selection is right!!!! Zia and Sunny for Naeem and Rubel.

Your Yes! Yes! Yes! gives me an impression that your a Daniel Bryan fan. :)

Rifat H
December 7, 2012, 03:17 AM
Alhamdulillah !! Obosheshe Mushy akta toss jitlo !!

mali007
December 7, 2012, 03:19 AM
Ajke chilo Jummar din , Desher manusher doa paiche BD , inshallah jitum !!

al-Sagar
December 7, 2012, 03:19 AM
quickly lunch kore ashi .......................... tarpor ......\\


cholo bangladesh, khelbe amar desh

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:19 AM
inshallah...kalke o bd amader faluda khaoabe....ajke finni.

riajul
December 7, 2012, 03:19 AM
Alhamdulillah !! Obosheshe Mushy akta toss jitlo !!

Aasha kori, toss er moto match tao jitbo.
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Hamlafan
December 7, 2012, 03:20 AM
Bowling order:

First 10 overs: Mashrafe & Gazi
Second 10 overs: Razzak&Mahmudullah
- depending on how things go-

and soo on.

MyRoom
December 7, 2012, 03:20 AM
So we're using one genuine fast bowler which may get criticism but for this game and tomorrow, can possibly get away with as long as the pitch is offering turn.

M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:21 AM
production of channel 9 is really poor. Only good thing is its a deshi company.

Sovik
December 7, 2012, 03:21 AM
We won the toss and fielding.

MyRoom
December 7, 2012, 03:22 AM
Your Yes! Yes! Yes! gives me an impression that your a Daniel Bryan fan. :)

Isn't he a wrestler? :)

Hawk-Eye
December 7, 2012, 03:23 AM
Aj mone hosse hoye jabe :)

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:23 AM
Target 1: Done!
Target 2: Get Gayle and Samuel within the PP.

Key to success....

Antora
December 7, 2012, 03:23 AM
Aj mone hosse hoye jabe :)

Inshallah :)

Sovik
December 7, 2012, 03:26 AM
Kemar roach is playing so runs will flow

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:26 AM
musy confident...so do we....now times for play....

al Furqaan
December 7, 2012, 03:26 AM
Bismillah...time to wrap up the series...what will CH Gayle do today?

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:27 AM
Rosch Malai is in...:)

cricbook
December 7, 2012, 03:27 AM
my fear rampal not playing....:D:D

ashrafi_mahb
December 7, 2012, 03:27 AM
we won the toss, bowling firs. sunny replacing rubel... good luck tigers...

kalpurush
December 7, 2012, 03:28 AM
Bismillah! Today, seems a good day!!

One World
December 7, 2012, 03:28 AM
যদি লক্ষ্য থাকে অটুট ..

roman
December 7, 2012, 03:29 AM
Bismillah...Come on Bangladesh

Nadim
December 7, 2012, 03:30 AM
Gazi yet again:)
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M.H.Rubel
December 7, 2012, 03:30 AM
Gayle Shoag is coming.

BANFAN
December 7, 2012, 03:30 AM
Bismillah...........

roman
December 7, 2012, 03:30 AM
Gayle bole Gazir ball e strike ney na. haha

Sovik
December 7, 2012, 03:31 AM
Gazi to Gayle. Turn and bounce. Liking it

Sohel
December 7, 2012, 03:31 AM
A bit of turn and bounce right away for Shohag, even with the new ball!