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shakibrulz
February 25, 2013, 05:15 AM
He's a bit old and is an SLA, but how long are you going to keep him away from the national side? And he's been brilliant in whatever oppurtunities he has got.

Anyone rate him and see him playing in the national team?

AsifTheManRahman
February 25, 2013, 08:21 AM
Md. Rafique had tipped him as his replacement. Unfortunately, the ICL saga ruined his chances and other spinners made hay in his absence. He might still make a comeback, but as is clear from the Test squad selection, the selectors rate him after Shakib, Enamul and Elias.
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MohammedC
February 25, 2013, 08:40 AM
^^^ He went to ICL because he realised he had no chance after taking 1 wicket in 3 ODI he played.

shakibrulz
February 25, 2013, 10:05 AM
He's certainly better than Sunny for mine - gets much more drift+turn.

Nadim
February 25, 2013, 10:17 AM
^^^ He went to ICL because he realised he had no chance after taking 1 wicket in 3 ODI he played.

He got only himself to blame.

When Rafique left, we didn't had numerous amount of SLA'ers like we do now. Only Razzak was known to be a gd bowler and Shakib was a part timer. Enamul jr was out of form too. So if he was sticking around a bit longer, he could have got more chances, specially in TEST!!!.

MohammedC
February 25, 2013, 11:23 AM
And if I could remember Razzak was not available due to suspected bowling action around that time. So yeah mosha got stung because of ICL

Nadim
February 25, 2013, 11:27 AM
And if I could remember Razzak was not available due to suspected bowling action around that time. So yeah mosha got stung because of ICL

Exactly! "nijer paye nije kural marle ki ar korar".

Fazal
February 25, 2013, 11:27 AM
With current situation he need a stunning season to get into the team. He need to be head and shoulder above than the rest (of the specialized spinners).

shakibrulz
February 25, 2013, 04:09 PM
Didn't Nafees play ICL too? Why was he picked then? Even Reza got picked.

I wouldn't blame him - at the time he'd have been making peanuts. Guy's gotta earn.

Fazal
February 25, 2013, 04:15 PM
Didn't Nafees play ICL too? Why was he picked then? Even Reza got picked.

I wouldn't blame him - at the time he'd have been making peanuts. Guy's gotta earn.

I don't think its an ICL issue. I think its more like a number game with so many spinners who are ahead in the line. Shohag is doing great, Sunny has some success last year and they are both ahead of Mosharraf. then you have Razzak and Enamul. it is just a number game.

Rifat
February 25, 2013, 04:17 PM
Didn't Nafees play ICL too? Why was he picked then? Even Reza got picked.

I wouldn't blame him - at the time he'd have been making peanuts. Guy's gotta earn.

The sad story is that nobody really got paid in ICL, right? (Which is why it was discontinued, right?)

shakibrulz
February 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
I don't think its an ICL issue. I think its more like a number game with so many spinners who are ahead in the line. Shohag is doing great, Sunny has some success last year and they are both ahead of Mosharraf. then you have Razzak and Enamul. it is just a number game.

Why is Razzaq ahead of Mosharraf in the pecking order? Why include Sunny at all if he's not performing as good?

Tiger444
February 26, 2013, 09:26 AM
^Razzak is 1 of our key men in our wins against G8 opponents, plus he's 1 of our most experienced players in a young team. Hard to drop the guy. Also I don't see where your getting Sunny is not performing good? You mean domestics? Maybe in domestics he hasn't been all that but his international stats are quite good. Averages in the early 30's in both Tests and ODI's and in the teens in T20I's. He's doing fine and should be continued with.

shakibrulz
February 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Yep I mean domestics. Mosharraf might have done better for all we know. If Enamul was picked over Sunny, then logically 2nd choice should've been Mosharraf. Why would they even pick Enamul otherwise? Sunny's fine but is out of form now, from what I've seen.

SS
February 26, 2013, 03:34 PM
Lombu bhaia er jonne kosto hoi...pacer hoilona ken

reyme
February 26, 2013, 03:43 PM
This Rubel should be in the lineup instead of other Rubel. Other Rubel is totally useless in all 3 departments. I hear this Rubel has some attitude problems and not well connected with the selectors...not sure if that's true, just a rumor..

Tiger444
February 26, 2013, 11:09 PM
This Rubel should be in the lineup instead of other Rubel. Other Rubel is totally useless in all 3 departments. I hear this Rubel has some attitude problems and not well connected with the selectors...not sure if that's true, just a rumor..

He was selected for the preliminary squad for the A team tour of India. He didn't end up going to the practice sessions from what I remember. So that could be an issue as well.

Gowza
February 26, 2013, 11:34 PM
bad attitude is a problem and it shouldn't be tolerated, players must go to training and should fit well with the group otherwise it makes everything tougher, plus it's not professional. he did pretty badly in his 3 ODIs, though his list A record isn't great so maybe he's not suited to 50 over over matches. in anycase shakib, gazi, enamul, sunny and sajib should all be ahead of him in tests and ODIs, maybe he could do some good service in the t20 teams as he has a pretty good record but there we also have razzak (also ahead of him in ODIs and now maybe even tests) so it's tough to make a break through.

Tiger444
February 27, 2013, 12:05 AM
^ya agreed with what you said there Gowza.

shakibrulz
March 4, 2013, 07:01 AM
So gowza's saying you should consider Odi performance for tests and T20s? He's been in good form, get him. Simples.

Gowza
March 4, 2013, 07:25 AM
So gowza's saying you should consider Odi performance for tests and T20s? He's been in good form, get him. Simples.

Never said that, the others I mentioned should be ahead of him in the various formats I mentioned due to their performances in those various formats.

Cric Boss
March 4, 2013, 08:34 AM
Agree with Gowza vai,According to recent performances we r choosing rubel and enam ahead of sunny but if u look at their career stat u will find sunny did much better than rubel,enam and razzak.

Cric Boss
March 4, 2013, 09:00 AM
Sunny:
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 3 5 623 353 12 6/94 7/128 29.41 3.39 51.9 0 1 0
ODIs 4 4 204 161 5 2/21 2/21 32.20 4.73 40.8 0 0 0
T20Is 7 7 138 146 9 5/13 5/13 16.22 6.34 15.3 0 1 0
First-class 68 13546 6520 247 7/79 26.39 2.88 54.8 11 11 1
List A 59 2916 1928 79 4/36 4/36 24.40 3.96 36.9 1 0 0
Twenty20 45 43 844 909 45 5/13 5/13 20.20 6.46 18.7 0 1 0
Enam:
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 14 24 3189 1609 41 7/95 12/200 39.24 3.02 77.7 0 3 1
ODIs 10 10 576 422 14 3/16 3/16 30.14 4.39 41.1 0 0 0
First-class 87 21117 10011 352 7/47 28.44 2.84 59.9 13 27 5
List A 48 2452 1610 54 4/27 4/27 29.81 3.93 45.4 3 0 0
Twenty20 29 29 586 604 39 3/14 3/14 15.48 6.18 15.0 0 0 0
Mosharraf:
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
ODIs 3 3 132 100 1 1/26 1/26 100.00 4.54 132.0 0 0 0
First-class 64 15244 6425 262 9/105 24.52 2.52 58.1 13 12 3
List A 43 2130 1410 41 4/42 4/42 34.39 3.97 51.9 1 0 0
Twenty20 27 27 561 597 30 4/9 4/9 19.90 6.38 18.7 1 0 0
Razzak:
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 9 14 2133 1185 18 3/93 4/144 65.83 3.33 118.5 0 0 0
ODIs 138 138 7227 5382 195 5/29 5/29 27.60 4.46 37.0 5 3 0
T20Is 24 24 552 628 35 4/16 4/16 17.94 6.82 15.7 1 0 0
First-class 63 15068 6973 251 9/84 27.78 2.77 60.0 8 11 4
List A 192 9892 7067 284 7/17 7/17 24.88 4.28 34.8 6 5 0
Twenty20 61 60 1319 1477 77 4/16 4/16 19.18 6.71 17.1 2 0 0
Saqlain:
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
First-class 47 82 9487 4549 217 7/29 13/113 20.96 2.87 43.7 11 13 2
List A 33 33 1544 1087 48 4/17 4/17 22.64 4.22 32.1 2 0 0
Twenty20 21 21 426 551 20 3/22 3/22 27.55 7.76 21.3 0 0 0

Cric Boss
March 4, 2013, 09:15 AM
Wow !!!!
Look at Saqlain Sajib's 1st class avg.
After 82 innings it's just 20.96 !
Better than all BD SLA
i would like to choose him ahead of all for longer version.

shakibrulz
March 5, 2013, 03:01 AM
Never said that, the others I mentioned should be ahead of him in the various formats I mentioned due to their performances in those various formats.
Okay, misread your post there, my bad. Agree, Enamul is definitely ahead of him, but since he's injured, I'd go for him - has been consistent across all formats and both in NCL and BCL. I think he has a very good case for being picked in the current tour, since Sunny is out of form, even with Sunny in the squad, he can replace Abul.

Gowza
March 5, 2013, 03:12 AM
Okay, misread your post there, my bad. Agree, Enamul is definitely ahead of him, but since he's injured, I'd go for him - has been consistent across all formats and both in NCL and BCL. I think he has a very good case for being picked in the current tour, since Sunny is out of form, even with Sunny in the squad, he can replace Abul.

no qualms there, could easily replace abul i agree. whether he should be there for sunny i guess is personal opinion. i like to back players unless they have a horror run, i think if you drop someone just because they aren't in top form then it's going to be tough for them to find form because they won't be in the team long enough. an out of form sunny still took 3 wickets in the first innings of the warm-up game, so if that's out of form then i'd still take that guy into my playing XI with the chance that' he'd come into form. if a player is having a real horror run and never taking wickets, or barely taking wickets then fair enough to be dropped, especially if someone else (or more) is knocking down the door. but if they've had a really strong run in their career to date and are still nabbing a few wickets when out of form then i think they deserve to hold their place and try to re-find form.

shakibrulz
March 5, 2013, 03:46 AM
Fair enough. I'd ideally prefer Sunny, Him and Gazi with Rubel, dunno why the selectors are crazy about two pacers. Even if this was some sort of greentop, I'd still not prefer any more pacers in the squad now (and they didn't pick Shafi or Taskin either).

jeesh
March 13, 2013, 10:17 PM
Finally. Deserves the call up. I hope he impresses and cements his place. He is much better than Elias Sunny.

Tiger444
March 13, 2013, 10:25 PM
I'm happy he got the call up. Sunny is really out of form and needs to go back to domestics and regain his form. Best of luck to him and hope he does well in the chances he gets.

Gowza
March 13, 2013, 10:53 PM
Yeah sunny not bowling well atm, well he got his call up, let's see what he's got.

al-Sagar
March 30, 2013, 09:41 AM
tomorrow is the last chance for mosharraf hossain rubel to return to the international stage .... ....

lets see if he gets a chance, and if he gets the chance whether he can perform

ReZ_1
March 30, 2013, 10:19 AM
i feel he will get the chance tomorrow, lets see if bd is bold enough to play with only zia as fast bowler

Nadim
March 31, 2013, 10:09 AM
Bhai phast bowler holen na keno?

Tiger Manc
March 31, 2013, 02:46 PM
He was the 2nd highest wicket taker in the BPL amongst Bangladeshis with 17 wickets @ 16. Yet our team management played Shahadat ahead of him. Shahadat struggled to get in the KRB side ffs!!

jeesh
March 31, 2013, 11:19 PM
Really was the difference in yesterdays encounter. Our team management, selectors, captain continue to show lack of strategic and tactical acumen.