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Kabir
March 23, 2013, 07:23 AM
First off, congrats for scoring the century today against SL (http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-bangladesh-2013/engine/current/match/602474.html). You scored the highest individual score against SL, and also became the Bangladeshi to score a ton against SL.

But after seeing the way you scored the last 25 odd runs to get to your 100, by playing only for your individual score so extra carefully even though the team could totally use an extra 15-20 runs that it didn't, I have lost quite a bit of respect for you. There were way too many full tosses that weren't put away, half volleys that weren't utilized, and lack of footwork to work the ball in gaps. I give you 2/10 for this selfishness.

Whether we win or lose this game is another matter, and I don't want to make that an issue. But when you play for the team as our premiere batsman, please have a respect for the team's success over your own.

Maple1900
March 23, 2013, 07:40 AM
I think he was so tired, he must work on his fitness.

WarWolf
March 23, 2013, 07:56 AM
He did the good thing. We tend to lose wicket during power plays. He and Nasir made sure that we don't lose wickets. As a result we could get some good total.

tanvir_nus
March 23, 2013, 08:00 AM
A bit harsh there don't you think? But I do agree about his fitness, although he only scored around 10 fours and took all singles and did get to his century afterall.

Shehwar
March 23, 2013, 08:18 AM
That was a top knock if you ask me. The easier thing for him would have been to hit out and get out in trying to do so but he grounded it out. The lack of rotating at that point was more due to pressure and a bit of lack of fitness. It was a two paced track as well. I would take this innings on this kind of track everyday.

PoorFan
March 23, 2013, 08:20 AM
He certainly was tired, and did well to hold on to the innings that helped Bangladesh to play out 50 overs with acceleration at the end. But yes, there were some shots that went to fielder, didnt find gaps, thats the place not only him but every BD players have to work on.

Naimul_Hd
March 23, 2013, 08:23 AM
I haven't lost respect for Tamim. But i think 20 dot balls in batting PP is way too many. If he was tired then he should have taken single and give strike to Nasir. Good thing was, Nasir made it up in the later, just think, what if nasir had gone right after tamim ...

anyway, he played well. he deserves 100. now win the match for us, please ! :)

tiger_army
March 23, 2013, 08:24 AM
too harsh I must said...Tamim was playing his natural game and scoring run a ball until he saw his 3 other partners lost their wicket playing stupidly... immedietly he had to slow down..during the power play they played cautiously knowing that they are the last recognized pair..cant really complain how they built the innings..259 may not be a huge total, but far better than 200..

Nafi
March 23, 2013, 08:27 AM
I think he was so tired, he must work on his fitness.

This is what I believe was a factor.

22Yards
March 23, 2013, 08:28 AM
too harsh way too harsh if you ask me. Yes the powerplay was not utilized and he may have been eyeing his hundred but regardless I thought the less extravagant powerplay actually was in our favor as we did not lose a wicket at that time. Plus tamim's fitness is the reason more than anything. It was almost as if he gave it away after scoring ton. This is not the first time and if it comes off I don't think he is to blame here. And it surely did came off this match.
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AsifTheManRahman
March 23, 2013, 08:34 AM
A bit harsh I think. They were bowling pretty well around that time (even Nasir had trouble putting it away at that stage) and we still had a LONG way to go before the end of the inning. We were 4 down, with Zi:facepalm:, Shoh:facepalm:g and :facepalm:bul to come. If he had done something silly, the tail would have been exposed too early and we probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to 260.

This was certainly not the kind of selfishness you would rightfully associate with, say, you-know-who when he played for his hundred in the WI home series, with a platform for a HUGE score already set and virtually the entire batting line up to follow.

Dilscoop
March 23, 2013, 09:10 AM
Remember, if he couldn't hit, no one could've.

Everyone's saying harsh thread, but I'm with you on that. I felt the exact same way. Good thing BC was down, otherwise I'd have ripped his OT apart. 20 dot balls in BPP? Really? Take singles. He was a set batsman, as opposed to Nasir he was relatively new to the pitch.

kiji78
March 23, 2013, 09:11 AM
Im sorry but I could not help but comment about the opener of thos thread goes to show how some fans are so impaitent. You really think tamim shud of went about smashing every ball then ur so silly at that time you needed them to play sensably and they did, but to see some one criticise him makes me soo angry.:waiting:

rubel_18
March 23, 2013, 09:15 AM
If he started hitting and then went out then we would start complaining oh man this guy once again goes out before getting a century and putting Bangladesh in a bad position. Even when he stays and gets the century which also meant Bangladesh got to a decent total we complain he is being selfish, we fans can never make our minds up.....

al Furqaan
March 23, 2013, 09:17 AM
A bit harsh I think. They were bowling pretty well around that time (even Nasir had trouble putting it away at that stage) and we still had a LONG way to go before the end of the inning. We were 4 down, with Zi:facepalm:, Shoh:facepalm:g and :facepalm:bul to come. If he had done something silly, the tail would have been exposed too early and we probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to 260.

This was certainly not the kind of selfishness you would rightfully associate with, say, you-know-who when he played for his hundred in the WI home series, with a platform for a HUGE score already set and virtually the entire batting line up to follow.

Harsh on Tamim, but harsh on you know who as well. The platform that was set was largely set by himself. Why should he waste the hard work? Bangladesh are usually nto a team that builds on a platform, we usually build basements. Today's game is an exception due Nasir's heroics which hopefully will be the new norm. Had it been Riyad and Naeem batting down the order we'd have finished with 190-5 and not 260.

Maysun
March 23, 2013, 09:19 AM
If he started hitting and then went out then we would start complaining oh man this guy once again goes out before getting a century and putting Bangladesh in a bad position. Even when he stays and gets the century which also meant Bangladesh got to a decent total we complain he is being selfish, we fans can never make our minds up.....

There. He said the truth.

Dilscoop
March 23, 2013, 09:19 AM
And that was his first game and his first 100. Tamim tasted his 100s, so that was just painful to watch. Funny how he charged as soon as he finished getting those last 8 runs.

zman
March 23, 2013, 09:22 AM
If we had lost Tamim at that time, we'd be really screwed. Having so few wickets left with so many overs to come, including Malinga's six, batsmen to come would've been under far more pressure and lost their way easily. He believed he could make it up after getting to a hundred just like Anamul did in his 120. Now if they had lost less wickets, it would've been a different story. If anything, he should be blamed for his lack of fitness.

Crisis
March 23, 2013, 09:23 AM
OP, seriously ?

He had to stay at the crease. None of the other lower order batsman did much, did they now ?

Dilscoop
March 23, 2013, 09:27 AM
I just hated how he turned down singles. A bunch of times Nasir was half way through and he sent him back being the fat *** of a "senior" player he is.

patriot
March 23, 2013, 09:35 AM
A hundred scored with a stirke rate of 82+ . Saved the team from reaching to familiar 150ish scores and saved this match from being one sided. #Respect.

Tigers_eye
March 23, 2013, 09:36 AM
Harsh on Tamim, but harsh on you know who as well. The platform that was set was largely set by himself. Why should he waste the hard work? Bangladesh are usually nto a team that builds on a platform, we usually build basements. Today's game is an exception due Nasir's heroics which hopefully will be the new norm. Had it been Riyad and Naeem batting down the order we'd have finished with 190-5 and not 260.
:facepalm: You know who is who?

akabir77
March 23, 2013, 09:42 AM
And i lost a little respect on you for opening such silly thread...

Dilscoop
March 23, 2013, 09:43 AM
They are talking about Anam vs WI obviously. I can recall ATMR's thread or comments on that.

cricheart
March 23, 2013, 09:46 AM
Sometimes being fatty is good for self assess and play accordingly to reach what matters to be called successful. imo Good job Tamim. No complain against chubby cricketer from my end as long as its fruitful.

ahnaf
March 23, 2013, 09:53 AM
im shocked.:o

deshprem
March 23, 2013, 07:48 PM
why is there talk of if this if that. what he did was selfish, and not excusable even if u are fat n useless like tamim. good on him for the runs.

Shartaz
March 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
You know what, I think I've lost all respect for the opener of this thread (that is if I had any to begin with). What a pointless and absurdly harsh thread.

This was a top notch knock from Tamim and gave Bangladesh a genuine chance of winning this ODI. Its true that it took Tamim 41 balls to move from 80 to 100. But look at his overal strike rate its 82.83. And it would have gone up had he not gotten run out.

Tamim is by a mile and a half, Bangladesh's second best match winner. So cut out this crap.

Fazal
March 23, 2013, 09:21 PM
yes, while other front end batsman failed, Tamim's century played a significant role for us to cross 250. Yes it was indeed a good milestone to achieve. But the problem is:

- In a batting friendly pitch, 260 is not a very good innings.
- Tamim wasted 136 ball and only achieved a SR of 82.
- Unlike Nasir, he failed to finish his innings addressing his slow SR.

meazz1
March 23, 2013, 09:29 PM
Damned if you do damned if you don't!

Habib
March 23, 2013, 09:34 PM
You know what, I think I've lost all respect for the opener of this thread (that is if I had any to begin with). What a pointless and absurdly harsh thread.

This was a top notch knock from Tamim and gave Bangladesh a genuine chance of winning this ODI. Its true that it took Tamim 41 balls to move from 80 to 100. But look at his overal strike rate its 82.83. And it would have gone up had he not gotten run out.

Tamim is by a mile and a half, Bangladesh's second best match winner. So cut out this crap.

Ditto. Tamim saw off Malinga and scored almost half of our total. Had he gone out before his 100 trying uradhura shots (which he almost did), our tail wouldn't have lasted long enough to even reach 200. For once, our Mr. 50 converts his 50 to 100 and we are asking for his head. Wtf.

Gowza
March 23, 2013, 09:34 PM
still a good innings, as said helped the team cross 250 which is better than not crossing it which could have happened if he didn't get the century. also an 82 strike rate is fine, it's really not bad, if he had got out 5 overs later then sure you would expect his strike rate to have gone higher.

Shaan
March 24, 2013, 12:50 AM
ajaira thread, if u blame someone blame the opener bowlers who gave away the entire game within 8 overs. It was so shame to see what rubel and abul did yesterday, a goli bowler would have done much better. Thanks to floodlight failure to assist the dew factor. Srilankans know the dirty games too.

Sohel
March 24, 2013, 01:01 AM
I feel it was important for Tamim to convert and it was a calculated risk to be cautious. Guys like Tamim can always compensate by accelerating later. Unfortunately for Tamim and more importantly his country, he ran himself out before having the chance. That happens in cricket.

I feel our inaccurate bowling let us down more than anything else. I doubt that extra 20+ runs would've mattered with that kind of balls coming at in-form Lankan batters.

Tigers_eye
March 24, 2013, 06:45 AM
I...Unfortunately for Tamim and more importantly his country, he ran himself out before having the chance. That happens in cricket....
Smoking is a choice Sohel bhai. Dom tho thakbay na. Runout tho hobei.

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 06:29 PM
Watch how Peter Fulton is batting in the 80's in a test match. Team plan: score quick runs before lunch and declare. It's the intent. It's selfish.

zman
March 24, 2013, 07:04 PM
Just checked NZ ENG game--the situation is different...Fulton is brimming with confidence, having scored a century in the first innings already; his team is on the offensive, they're under no pressure whatsoever.

In Tamim's case, the team had lost too many wickets and a lot was riding on him occupying the crease...also his confidence level wasn't so high and he was feeling a lot of pressure from not having scored a century in close to 3 years...he felt he could accelerate once the burden was lifted, which he showed he could by hitting Malinga for six as soon as he got to the hundred, but unfortunately he ran himself out. His biggest issue wasn't the mindset rather his fitness level

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 07:15 PM
Just checked NZ ENG game--the situation is different...Fulton is brimming with confidence, having scored a century in the first innings already; his team is on the offensive, they're under no pressure whatsoever.

In Tamim's case, the team had lost too many wickets and a lot was riding on him occupying the crease...also his confidence level wasn't so high and he was feeling a lot of pressure from not having scored a century in close to 3 years...he felt he could accelerate once the burden was lifted, which he showed he could by hitting Malinga for six as soon as he got to the hundred, but unfortunately he ran himself out. His biggest issue wasn't the mindset rather his fitness level

It was the GODDAMN POWERPLAY where he gave away 14 dot balls as a set batsman! Wheres England have everyone in the boundary trying to stop the quick run flow. I'm talking about intent. Tamim showed no intent of scoring quick runs. He was busy with getting those 8 runs. As soon as he got those 8 runs he finally charged down the wicket.

Also, first you say he wasn't feeling confident but then you are saying issue wasn't his mindset but his fitness level. So which one?

Ajfar
March 24, 2013, 07:28 PM
Let's say if that was someone like Kayes or Ashraful instead of Tamim, more people would have agreed with Kabir bhai. I'm just saying.

zman
March 24, 2013, 07:31 PM
I didn't see those dot balls as I dozed off at that time...I was alluding to the general mindset of a batsman in the 90s. For most batsmen it's not easy to play their natural game since no matter what, the milestone will be at the back of your mind unless you're accustomed to doing it frequently. On the other hand if he had been fitter, there would be little reason for him to turn down easy singles and doubles.

MohammedC
March 24, 2013, 07:42 PM
Watch Tamim celebrating @ 6 min 08 seconds. He is showing the aeroplane. Little that he knew he would see the plane soon.

http://youtu.be/qTpXgQmsW6k?t=5m59s

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 07:47 PM
I didn't see those dot balls as I dozed off at that time...I was alluding to the general mindset of a batsman in the 90s. For most batsmen it's not easy to play their natural game since no matter what, the milestone will be at the back of your mind unless you're accustomed to doing it frequently. On the other hand if he had been fitter, there would be little reason for him to turn down easy singles and doubles.

I.e. Selfish. And therefore I'm pointing out how Fulton is batting nearing a 100. Putting his team ahead of his 100.

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 07:51 PM
Let's say if that was someone like Kayes or Ashraful instead of Tamim, more people would have agreed with Kabir bhai. I'm just saying.

Perfectly put.

zman
March 24, 2013, 07:54 PM
I can somewhat understand your criticism of Tamim, but I still fail to see the parallelism between Tamim and Fulton's innings when Bd had 10+ overs left to face in an ODI game with debutant Zia, Shohag and Raz to follow vs. NZ being 400+ runs ahead on a tough pitch with 6 wickets remaining. Apples and oranges.

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 07:57 PM
I can somewhat understand your criticism of Tamim, but I still fail to see the parallelism between Tamim and Fulton's innings when Bd had 10+ overs left to face in an ODI game with debutant Zia, Shohag and Raz to follow vs. NZ being 400+ runs ahead on a tough pitch with 6 wickets remaining. Apples and oranges.

If you fail to see the connection, then I have nothing farther to say. :facepalm:

zman
March 24, 2013, 07:59 PM
Good for you

reyme
March 24, 2013, 08:40 PM
When everyone else failed blaming the only person who basically build the entire inning for his team makes no sense. Blame others: who failed to make any impact. Thanks Tamim for the runs. Without him we could be all out under 150.

Jadukor
March 24, 2013, 08:44 PM
Nitpicking on how many dots he played in Powerplay only makes sense if we had a solid platform and wickets in hand. It was Tamim who was instrumental in getting us to a competitive total so blaming him for slowing down to reach his milestone is a little harsh. If we were 180/2 while it happened then I would be upset... but the game was in the balance at that stage and preserving wickets was more important than going for runs.

tiger_army
March 24, 2013, 09:12 PM
I feel it was important for Tamim to convert and it was a calculated risk to be cautious. Guys like Tamim can always compensate by accelerating later. Unfortunately for Tamim and more importantly his country, he ran himself out before having the chance. That happens in cricket.

I feel our inaccurate bowling let us down more than anything else. I doubt that extra 20+ runs would've mattered with that kind of balls coming at in-form Lankan batters.

spot on bro...259 was a very good score and our wining chance was ruined by our opening bowlers..they way they bowled to the lankan batsmen, score of 300 wouldnt be defendable. I think this will be the story of the whole series. if these bowlers couldnt get their act together we are going to face another white wash.

Dilscoop
March 24, 2013, 09:47 PM
Whether we lost or not, for who or what is not part of this discussion. This thread was opened during half time. It's not about how much he scored either. It's more about how he approached it. It was clearly visible he cared more about himself. No way you can deny that. Good for him Nasir played a stunner at the end, or else most of you would've been agreeing with the thread starter.

akabir77
March 24, 2013, 09:50 PM
Not really since he played that way that's the reason we didn't lose more wicket hence Nasir could play with more tail.

BengaliPagol
March 25, 2013, 03:27 AM
Let's say if that was someone like Kayes or Ashraful instead of Tamim, more people would have agreed with Kabir bhai. I'm just saying.

Shobai Imrul ke bochondo kore na? :o

Kabir
March 25, 2013, 03:57 PM
Whether we lost or not, for who or what is not part of this discussion. This thread was opened during half time. It's not about how much he scored either. It's more about how he approached it. It was clearly visible he cared more about himself. No way you can deny that. Good for him Nasir played a stunner at the end, or else most of you would've been agreeing with the thread starter.

Thanks you. Finally someone gets it. His selfishness was clear. Way too many singles/doubles turned down. He played really well until about 75, and then he was simply "wtf I'm here for a century and I'm getting it". Look at the way he had that sigh of relief after the century. You'll know what I mean. That sigh of relief totally pissed me off.

Kabir
March 25, 2013, 03:59 PM
And i lost a little respect on you for opening such silly thread...

OMG, how am I going to live the rest of my life with this "bojh"? OMG OMG OMG.

Same goes to the rest of you who lost your respect for me, or didn't have any to begin with. I can do without a few less unfortunate individuals not getting a simple point.

Zeeshan
March 25, 2013, 04:01 PM
NOWWW Kabir earned my respect. Because of his badaaaery.

Kabir
March 28, 2013, 01:05 PM
Shame on those of you who thought the team couldn't win without Tamim. There's still time for you to go back and edit your comments. Tamim is a premiere batsman of our team, but we've won without him before, and we will win without him in future as well.

Yes it's a dig - live with it.