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Roey Haque
March 25, 2013, 08:32 AM
Very disappointed at this wash out. Even if there is no scope for winning the series now, at least a victory in the 3rd ODI will let SL know, that it's trouble for them every time they play us from now on.

Okay,let's talk selection.

Don't know about y'all , but I was mighty impressed with Zia's bowling today. In spite of the strong winds, he bowled fine.

But I didn't see a different Rubel today, I saw the same one that was raped by Dilshan and Perrera.

Can Rubel change? Yes,on a different wicket maybe. But this one? Doesn't seem like it. So is it too late to replace him with Mosharraf Hossain? Oh, and btw, Mosharraf is known for darting them in using his height, maintains a fantastic line and length as I remember him from his Dhaka Warrior days.

Our team's core competency is spinners after all, so what's the harm?

And should Shamsur Rahman replace Ash for the next ODI? We are finding hot forms in our newest selections( Anamul in the WI series, Mominul in the SL series, and soon they will both click together). So who's to say Shamsur won't be the next consistent one? Much better than what y'all call an Eid innings, ain't?

Discuss please.

jeesh
March 25, 2013, 09:05 AM
Is the extra batsmen worth it? Why not play Mosharraf Hossain? Battings not the problem, its bowling. In todays lineup we had three specialist bowlers, and we all know often guys like Rubel dont count-as they get hammered and dont complete the 10 over quota. So we are practically stuck with two genuine bowlers in Gazi and Razzak.

Roey Haque
March 25, 2013, 09:10 AM
Is the extra batsmen worth it? Why not play Mosharraf Hossain?

That's what I proposed. Rubel out, Mosharraf in.

beshideshi
March 25, 2013, 09:18 AM
I have always said that you should play your strengths, regardless of the condition or what purists believe is 'right'. The truth is, the 5 best bowlers in the country are spinners, so pack the team with spinners. I can think of at least 4 better bowlers than Rubel, Shahadat or Abul. No point picking a pacer just for the sake of it, Zia can do the job of a solitary pacer.

And as for batting goes, I think Anamul needs to be tried at no.4/5. He still lacks confidence to play his natural game against quality new ball attacks. Push Sir Sir up to open and see how he does. Might be worth the gamble.

Roey Haque
March 25, 2013, 09:20 AM
Push Sir Sir up to open and see how he does. Might be worth the gamble.

Okay,so just to be clear, you are not in favor of replacing Ash with Shamsur?

simon
March 25, 2013, 09:23 AM
first strategie ...keep a damn reserved day
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shuziburo
March 25, 2013, 09:36 AM
first strategie ...keep a damn reserved day
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:up: :up:

shuziburo
March 25, 2013, 09:38 AM
I agree with both suggestions by Roey Haque! Mosharraf and Shamsur in for Rubel and Ash.

Rubel might get better, but right now, he is a huge liability. We need to get Dilshan and Sanga quickly, but Abul and Rubel's contributions has been to get them settled.

Roey Haque
March 25, 2013, 09:40 AM
Rubel might get better, but right now, he is a huge liability. We need to get Dilshan and Sanga quickly, but Abul and Rubel's contributions has been to get them settled.

Yes. Well, Rubel's contributions has been to get him more experience. The still wicket less Abul? Not so sure. Might be time for a long lay off from the team. In a perfect world that is.

Roey Haque
March 25, 2013, 09:43 AM
first strategie ...keep a damn reserved day

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That is a fine piece of strategy. It should be in talks immediately. Hell, why not be revolutionary and squeeze in another day to make up for this cancelled ODI as well? I'm serious!In business, all I'm studying is how to innovate, cater to the situation etc. These things should be done to improve ICC's cricketing world.

shuziburo
March 25, 2013, 09:58 AM
Yes. Well, Rubel's contributions has been to get him more experience. The still wicket less Abul? Not so sure. Might be time for a long lay off from the team. In a perfect world that is.

I have not been impressed with Abul at all. He never has a plan and cannot bowl a tight spell. I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't see him improve soon.

ReZ_1
March 25, 2013, 02:09 PM
I think Ash is for tactical strategy for the opposition, opposition party will always be on their toes that ash is playing and any day thukku the prior night of the match they will be busy searching for the new moon of the month of "shawal", so that they pass sleepless night and under perform the next day. And if they somehow discovers the new moon to blossom in the midst of the sky between the twinkle stars then there is no hope in the next match. better they would sit down and watch the match between bd and aus in cardiff to get acquainted of the future environment.

Ok jokes apart i think it will be unfair except rubel to change the team composition as the 2nd match is abandoned. if the track assist seamers then we should replace another pacer for rubel, with abul injured only hope is..... came long way from dhaka intl airport after cancelling 2-3 shooting contracts.:flag:

mali007
March 25, 2013, 02:18 PM
It's better to have a quality spinner like Mosharraf in place of brainless expensive Rubel !! We need pacer like Zia who maintains good line and length , he was impressive against WI too. In future we need Taskin and Farhad Reza as a bowler in ODI .

Zeeshan
March 25, 2013, 03:55 PM
WE need to play good cricket. Abar ki.

MohammedC
March 25, 2013, 04:10 PM
Stay injury free.

Nadim
March 25, 2013, 04:52 PM
No bhat, shag, Alu bhorta, beef, chicken, dal etc during break
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Equinox
March 25, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jahirul
Bijoy
Ash
Riyad
Mushy+*
Nasir
Mominul
Zia
Shohag
Razzak
Rubel

-Win toss, bowl first.
-Open with Zia and Razzak/Shohag. Rubel not to bowl within the first 10 overs.
-The rest as standard.

AsifTheManRahman
March 25, 2013, 05:02 PM
Just come home, fellas. Tomader diye kicchu hobe na. There's better beef curry in Bangladesh anyways.

MohammedC
March 25, 2013, 05:16 PM
Just come home, fellas. Tomader diye kicchu hobe na. There's better beef curry in Bangladesh anyways.

Ei coconut milk/cream dia curry aar kotho khaiba chole aso baba ra, deshe chole aso.

Crisis
March 25, 2013, 06:44 PM
Bring in Rasel, time asey

sarwar
March 26, 2013, 03:53 AM
I once again ask to experiment with batting order, send bijoy at middle order,try zia and omi at opening, momin at 1st down, then shams-mushfiq-ash, reserve nasir for late middle order.replacebrrainless rubel with mosharrah.

Shaan
March 26, 2013, 05:20 AM
Just come home, fellas. Tomader diye kicchu hobe na. There's better beef curry in Bangladesh anyways.
ki go dada, ei khasi-goru kheye buri ke je ekebare Tamim er hale niye jaben:))

Shaan
March 26, 2013, 05:21 AM
Jahirul
Bijoy
Ash
Riyad
Mushy+*
Nasir
Mominul
Zia
Shohag
Razzak
Rubel

-Win toss, bowl first.
-Open with Zia and Razzak/Shohag. Rubel not to bowl within the first 10 overs.
-The rest as standard.
like your thought..:up:

athik
March 26, 2013, 08:24 AM
How about giving tapash another chance. He did well in BPL.

Rubel or Shahadat didnt - and they still get selected.

All the players that did well in BPL should be given a chance including Shamshur Rahman insh Allah

SS
March 26, 2013, 09:09 AM
WE need to play good cricket. Abar ki.

And also aggresive and intelligent captancy along with 200% dedication from players to win the game...something like this

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/155900/155994.jpg

source: recent finished NZ vs Eng game

HereWeGo
March 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
Jahirul
Bijoy
Ash
Riyad
Mushy+*
Nasir
Mominul
Zia
Shohag
Razzak
Rubel

-Win toss, bowl first.
-Open with Zia and Razzak/Shohag. Rubel not to bowl within the first 10 overs.
-The rest as standard.

I like your bowling recommendation... Rubel is an excellent bowler with older ball. I would however replace razzaq with Mosharraf...

I would bat Ash and Jahirul for opening followed by mushy... and have Anamul for middle order as someone else suggested.

Max100
March 26, 2013, 11:28 AM
i agree with roye too

change line up, we will get a positive result

shamsur
jahurul
anamul
mominul
mushfiq
mahmudullah
nasir
ziaur rahman
mosharraf rubel
sohag gazi
abdur razzaq

no need BS bowling from abul and rubel

Jadukor
March 26, 2013, 12:12 PM
Rubel is an excellent bowler with older ball.
older meaning from the 51st over?

BD Tigers
March 26, 2013, 12:52 PM
And also aggresive and intelligent captancy along with 200% dedication from players to win the game...something like this

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/155900/155994.jpg

source: recent finished NZ vs Eng game

That was the hell of a test game...reminds me of Multan :'(

al-Sagar
March 26, 2013, 03:42 PM
boro boro chata diye aage brishti thekai .............. ar kisu reserve mombati, hariken o laagbe .....

cricbook
March 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
i agree with roye too

change line up, we will get a positive result

shamsur
jahurul
anamul
mominul
mushfiq
mahmudullah
nasir
ziaur rahman
mosharraf rubel
sohag gazi
abdur razzaq

no need BS bowling from abul and rubel
Lol....:applause::clap:

AsifTheManRahman
March 26, 2013, 08:48 PM
Just pray for rain guys.
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tiger_army
March 26, 2013, 10:09 PM
Just pray for rain guys.
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valo bolsen, Team er jei durdosha.. kono strategy kaje ashbe na..

reyme
March 27, 2013, 12:35 AM
i agree with roye too

change line up, we will get a positive result

shamsur
jahurul
anamul
mominul
mushfiq
mahmudullah
nasir
ziaur rahman
mosharraf rubel
sohag gazi
abdur razzaq

no need BS bowling from abul and rubel

This! My team exactly. Led by Pont.

bujhee kom
March 27, 2013, 12:47 AM
BHalo bowling(or balling, jetai prefer korun) kortey hobey!
Bhalo fileding kortey hobey, ball-er upor jhapano, tol-pete ball-er kamor-chobol-er daag felaano fileding I mean bahis...
Tarpor bhalo batting kortey hoey...
bhalo umpiring aar amder pokkhey ashley arektu bhalo hobey..
Aar baad-baki shob Allah-er haatey chere diin dada....

beshideshi
March 27, 2013, 03:13 AM
Okay,so just to be clear, you are not in favor of replacing Ash with Shamsur?

I would have, but I doubt he will be dropped. So might as well get the best out of him

BengaliPagol
March 27, 2013, 03:35 AM
Should we go with one pacer (Ziaur Rahman?).

cricheart
March 27, 2013, 04:31 AM
Series is failed for us. Without Shakib-Tamim its not possible. Its better cut the optimism, where we can hardly draw the series now. Stretegy should be No more injury and save your energy for another tour which will be harder coz we cant afford loose any match against Zimbabwe. Cricket world allready know being a test nation we are weakest & talentless in pace department and we cant hide it anymore. So yeah Mosharraf should help Rubel from any more sweating in SL. For Zia & others who got in this squad luckily, I would say just to loose presure & treat this match as a prep match, coz playing with the #1 t20 side next will be a high stake match than this one. I want Shamsu there for a must.

Roey Haque
March 27, 2013, 04:57 AM
Should we go with one pacer (Ziaur Rahman?).

We've talked about this. And some agree with me in surrounding Ziaur with 3 spinners, Shohag,Razzaq and Mosharraf.

Others seem to stick with Rubel in the line up.

ReZ_1
March 27, 2013, 05:20 AM
We've talked about this. And some agree with me in surrounding Ziaur with 3 spinners, Shohag,Razzaq and Mosharraf.

Others seem to stick with Rubel in the line up.

no, i want to go for shahadat, he is getting married soon just after the sl series, there is word called "lucky charm" at least you got to have believe in him in his crucial time just before marriage..:D
Here is more details if anyone missed out the marriage proposal of our bd sharukh khan...

শুনলাম বিয়ে করছেন।
শাহাদাত: হ্যাঁ, দেশে ফিরেই বিয়ের অনুষ্ঠান সেরে ফেলব। আমরা শ্রীলঙ্কা থেকে দেশে ফিরব ২ এপ্রিল, বিয়ে হবে ৫ তারিখে। জাতীয় দলের সবাই বিয়েতে আসবে।
 পাত্রী কী করেন?
শাহাদাত: ওর নাম জেসমিন জাহান নৃত্য। উচ্চমাধ্যমিকের ছাত্রী। ঢাকায় মালিবাগে বাসা, পড়াশোনাও ঢাকাতেই করছে। তবে বাড়ি কুমিল্লায়। বাবা ইঞ্জিনিয়ার।

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2013-03-24/news/339166

Cric Boss
March 27, 2013, 07:53 AM
Bachcha ekta meye re biya korbe srk ???? Hajaro noro-nari k kadiye srk hobe bibahito......lol
kalk beshi kharap bowl korle abar shahadater biye venge jabe na to :ohno:

Cric Boss
March 27, 2013, 07:58 AM
Shahadat bowling korar shomoy jemne ahhhhh uhhhh yeaahhhhh ahhhhh ooooh type shobdo kore.....lozza e laage :lol: tarporo ki korbo bolte hoitese..........Amar ektu shondeho ase ore niya.
Allah e valo jaane 5 tarikh raat a jesmin vabir kopal a ki lekha ase,ahare bachcha ekta meye :facepalm:

Cric Boss
March 27, 2013, 08:03 AM
100 % agree with u bro....supppper team :up: @Max 100
we r better than bd team management :)

Roey Haque
March 27, 2013, 08:07 AM
no, i want to go for shahadat, he is getting married soon just after the sl series, there is word called "lucky charm" at least you got to have believe in him in his crucial time just before marriage..:D


Haha, okay. I have love for Shahdat, but after seeing how Zia can maintain his line and length without too much effort,I have become spoiled. I want every Bd bowler to forget about pace, or even hitting the ground hard, and just focus on their accuracy.

When Mash comes back it would be interesting to see him and Zia open the bowling. They are like twins in terms of body figure.

Roey Haque
March 27, 2013, 08:12 AM
Series is failed for us. Without Shakib-Tamim its not possible. Its better cut the optimism, where we can hardly draw the series now. Stretegy should be No more injury and save your energy for another tour which will be harder coz we cant afford loose any match against Zimbabwe. Cricket world allready know being a test nation we are weakest & talentless in pace department and we cant hide it anymore. So yeah Mosharraf should help Rubel from any more sweating in SL. For Zia & others who got in this squad luckily, I would say just to loose presure & treat this match as a prep match, coz playing with the #1 t20 side next will be a high stake match than this one. I want Shamsu there for a must.

Nice thought but I don't fully agree. How much energy can you really save by tanking one match? LOL. Yes, by going easy, there is the possibility of staying injury free. But are you telling me they won't have to deal with the same things when it's time to face Zimbabwe?

The series is not lost. I believe what's even bigger than not injuring anyone else, is to win the 3rd ODI. That would give us more motivation than any other single factor to do well in the Zim series. Not having all of our best players is not a problem. Afterall, how will the Shamsus of this world get a chance in the team otherwise? I hope you get my drift.

zunaid_bd
March 27, 2013, 08:15 AM
Every play has to give there 100%

simon
March 27, 2013, 08:45 AM
amader phast bowler ra Furqaan bhai er moto freeballin kora bondho korte hobe, pant er niche kichu portey hobey, naile line ar length tight thake na, loose delivery hoy beshi,pichlaya jay.

Roey Haque
March 27, 2013, 09:01 AM
amader phast bowler ra Furqaan bhai er moto freeballin kora bondho korte hobe, pant er niche kichu portey hobey, naile line ar length tight thake na, loose delivery hoy beshi,pichlaya jay.

I remember that thread! LOL.

simon
March 27, 2013, 09:33 AM
seriously speaking I liked the idea of going with one extra batsman as the XI we had for the 2nd ODI.
Although I would prefer Mosharraf instead of walking wicket Ash to strengthen our bowling attack.

The strategy to win this would be to outscore Sri batsman, we have a good batting line up, if batting first we need to score 270+,and bowl economically, if bowling 1st then somehow restrict Sri to 250.
I'd prefer chasing a target even if it is 260.

bujhee kom
March 27, 2013, 10:21 AM
Amader kono naa kono ekta strategy ber kortei hobey, taratari aro kichu ideas ber korun please!

M.H.Rubel
March 27, 2013, 10:37 AM
According to CI in pallekelle top five wicket takers are pacer. Our management has decides to go with our strength. So they are going with 1 pacer and 7 batsman. Its a bit contradictory,in that case why did we play with 3 pacers in 2nd test.
To me we should drop one batsman and play with 2 pacer.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-bangladesh-2013/content/story/626978.html

22Yards
March 27, 2013, 10:45 AM
If Mominul plays I want to see him at no 4 and not below that. Promoting Mush up the order has brought zero result and I think Mush and Nasir should make up our lower middle order. It would be interesting to see how long can mahmudullah hold his place if mominul starts to perform once shakib is back.

Tamim
Shamsur
Anamul
Mominul
Shakib
Mush
Nasir
Gazi
Mosharraf
pacer 1
pacer 2

This is the lineup I wasnt to see for ODI ideally. Jahurul, nafees, mullah and razzak are replacements for 2, 3, 4(I know his as* won't bat up at 4) and 8 respectively. Pacer's should be chosen according to whoever is in form.

As for next match. we are limited to injuries and so don't have much of a choice.

Roey Haque
March 27, 2013, 11:46 AM
If Mominul plays I want to see him at no 4 and not below that. Promoting Mush up the order has brought zero result and I think Mush and Nasir should make up our lower middle order. It would be interesting to see how long can mahmudullah hold his place if mominul starts to perform once shakib is back.

Tamim
Shamsur
Anamul
Mominul
Shakib
Mush
Nasir
Gazi
Mosharraf
pacer 1
pacer 2

This is the lineup I wasnt to see for ODI ideally. Jahurul, nafees, mullah and razzak are replacements for 2, 3, 4(I know his as* won't bat up at 4) and 8 respectively. Pacer's should be chosen according to whoever is in form.

As for next match. we are limited to injuries and so don't have much of a choice.

Very interesting thoughts. A few things.......

If just feels so odd to nudge the VC out of the team.

And we haven't even seen Shamsur debut. So too premature to put him up there in your ideal ODI team. But obviously you rate him tremendously high.

It's easy to say put the 2 pacers who are in form, but as you have seen in this series, when faced with injuries, it might be hard to actually have 2 pacers who are on form!
So perhaps we should quickly establish 3 supreme spin bowlers? So a 1 man pace attack can always be justified? We are already blessed that Shohag is more than decent with the bat. So we can afford to develop two absolute spin specialists.

Remember too that Mosharraf is actually 1 year older than Razzak. I only say this because, again like Shamsur, he is yet to debut for the team. He really has to shine if wants to stake his claim in the team.

syedmahm
March 27, 2013, 02:32 PM
I think Ash is for tactical strategy for the opposition, opposition party will always be on their toes that ash is playing and any day thukku the prior night of the match they will be busy searching for the new moon of the month of "shawal", so that they pass sleepless night and under perform the next day. And if they somehow discovers the new moon to blossom in the midst of the sky between the twinkle stars then there is no hope in the next match. better they would sit down and watch the match between bd and aus in cardiff to get acquainted of the future environment.

Ok jokes apart i think it will be unfair except rubel to change the team composition as the 2nd match is abandoned. if the track assist seamers then we should replace another pacer for rubel, with abul injured only hope is..... came long way from dhaka intl airport after cancelling 2-3 shooting contracts.:flag:

Laughing by reading every word..

zsayeed
March 27, 2013, 04:48 PM
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