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jeesh
April 1, 2013, 11:26 PM
Zimbabwe set to appoint Andy Waller as their new coach. Heath Streaks contract ran out. Its not sure whether he or Grant Flower will be a part of Zimbabwe's support team in future. Neither traveled with Zimbabwe in their West Indian tour and we all know how that went.

This is a terrific opportunity for BCB. We have a very good batting lineup. Experienced guys are performing, and then we have the younger prospects in Anamul, Mominul, Shabbir, Shamsur etc. BCB was looking for a specialist batting coach. Grant Flower could be a terrific candidate for this role.

Heath Streak can also bring in a lot of experience for our pace bowlers. Let him work at academy level, or even the national team. From what i heard about him he is a very hands on coach with good man management skill.

Both guys are very capable, very ambitious. Both future head coach material. If their country doesnt value them, why dont we take advantage of the situation.

Max100
April 1, 2013, 11:29 PM
yeah, i agree

dark mage
April 1, 2013, 11:52 PM
I agree too but it's not in our hands unfortunately and we all know the BCB isn't smart enough

BD_TigerZ
April 2, 2013, 12:16 AM
:o as much as i want it to happen..it wont :facepalm:

ReZ_1
April 2, 2013, 12:48 AM
we should send bcb a khola chiti, i am sure they are not aware of his

roman
April 2, 2013, 08:57 AM
Streak is out of the equation as Shane himself is a bowling coach. We can try to have him for our Academy but don't think Streak would like to be involved with academy after successfully completing a national team role. I would love to have G Flower as our coach though

mufi_02
April 2, 2013, 09:01 AM
G Flower worked as Zim batting coach for quite some time. But there wasn't any significant improvement on their batting. Except Taylor, no single batsmen established himself in the international stage. So I don't know how effective he will be.

For bowling coach, we all know Ian will be interested.

shuziburo
April 2, 2013, 09:09 AM
Streak is out of the equation as Shane himself is a bowling coach. We can try to have him for our Academy but don't think Streak would like to be involved with academy after successfully completing a national team role. I would love to have G Flower as our coach though

SJ cannot be a head and bowling coach. If he is made the permanent head coach, we can have Streak as the pace coach. ZIM pacers definitely did well under him.

I don't think BCB will take advantage of this situation, though.

roman
April 2, 2013, 10:03 AM
I don't think BCB will take advantage of this situation, though.

When I said Streak is out of the equation, this is exactly what I meant. BCB as we all know can be cheap sometimes. They are not going to hire 2 Bowling coaches at the same time. Don't look that far. Take a look at our fielding coach. He is also responsible for our batting.

Why pay more when you can pay less and still get the job done is BCB's logic. Is that an effective way? That is a different topic

BANFAN
April 2, 2013, 10:19 AM
We need a good bowling coach, with so bad situation with our pace bowling. Hope Mushtaque is joining soon. Batting I'm sure, the academy coach can fix if any player has any issue, otherwise there is not much o teach in batting. Boyz just need to pracice ... Bowling needs a lots of things o understand and drills to perform, that's hard for them to do alone..

jeesh
April 2, 2013, 11:19 AM
G Flower worked as Zim batting coach for quite some time. But there wasn't any significant improvement on their batting. Except Taylor, no single batsmen established himself in the international stage. So I don't know how effective he will be.

For bowling coach, we all know Ian will be interested.

Disagree buddy. Many of the Zimbabwean batsmen are quite polished. Internal politics, lack of opportunities, constant changesare killing their cricket. I bet if you get their batsmen to play in NCL they will do very well. And dont forget his brother is one of the best coaches in the World. Even if Grant is half as good i wouldnt mind him coaching our guys. The likes of Mushfiq, Nasir, Shakib and so on dont need a wizard. They are all in the right path, they just need someone to come and guide them. Grant Flower has a lot of experience

Regarding Streak, very true BCB will never approach another bowling coach with SJ already there. A person like Saber Hossain would have the vision and shrewdness to bring him in for an academy role to train the pacers.

22Yards
April 2, 2013, 11:36 AM
Heath streak looks more enticing than a batting coach atm given the condition of our pace bowlers. I am really dissapointed at Shane Jurgenson as it is quite clear that he literally failed to bring the best (heck even decent) from pacers.

Roey Haque
April 2, 2013, 11:53 AM
Agreed. Flower and Streak are top class outstanding guys. Maybe it's just that I don't watch other teams anymore besides Bd. But I just feel like those two are irreplaceable. Legends.

AsifTheManRahman
April 2, 2013, 11:54 AM
So when SJ retires, Streak can take over as HC?

Roey Haque
April 2, 2013, 11:54 AM
One thing that's clear is that we need many good coaches. Cut the bureaucracy, don't keep 3 selectors. One selector is enough. Use the money to get more coaches.

Crisis
April 3, 2013, 06:22 PM
We are aware, but is BCB aware ?

BANFAN
April 3, 2013, 07:18 PM
Any source that says, these two are available and not already taken by some national or club sides?

NoName
April 3, 2013, 09:11 PM
Imagine them being our coaches during the Zim series:lol:

nahaz
April 4, 2013, 04:19 AM
If we can't have Streak as bowling coach because SJ is here, how about have him as batting coach? I am sure, in keeping with BD tradition, he won't be too good at his job, but he might teach them all bowling in his spare time, lol..
:floor::floor::floor:

We can employ Grant Flower as the wicket-keeping coach:D

al-Sagar
April 4, 2013, 09:44 PM
If we can't have Streak as bowling coach because SJ is here, how about have him as batting coach? I am sure, in keeping with BD tradition, he won't be too good at his job, but he might teach them all bowling in his spare time, lol..
:floor::floor::floor:

We can employ Grant Flower as the wicket-keeping coach:D

wht next ??

lionel messi as head coach ???

hujum barkunda as fielding coach ???

Gowza
April 4, 2013, 09:50 PM
SJ obviously not doing well with the pacers despite having been a fast bowler himself so i see no issue with bringing in a specialist fast bowling coach. if it's not working then you need to look for solutions.

jeesh
April 12, 2013, 07:13 AM
Pakistan has lined up Grant Flower for the batting coach role. Interesting to see how forward thinking they are compared to us.

BD_TigerZ
April 20, 2013, 02:54 AM
We should try and get Heath Streak. Seriously seems like he had left a good mark on zim pacers. Cricinfo article suggests.

jeesh
April 20, 2013, 05:04 AM
Yeah even Keegan Meth bowls better than our guys. Hate the arrogance of the commentators, but Zimbabwe do have a decent pace lineup-Jarvis, Masakadza, Meth. Guys like Mpofu and Vitori are also there.

Nadim
April 20, 2013, 05:07 AM
Decent? World case bowling line up ;)

jeesh
April 20, 2013, 05:09 AM
Body language and aggression of Jarvis is commendable. He is winning the battle by just being arrogant and staring at the batsmen. Of course in this case since its directed at us find it annoying. But cant remember the last bowler we had who could do this

jeesh
May 9, 2013, 03:09 AM
The Zimbawean pace bowlers are better than ours. The likes of Jarvis, Vitori, Masakadza are a class above ours. Even the younger guys like Chatara are better than Abul and co. While Abul hasnt even picked up 15 wickets in first class, Chatara has 120 scalps. But a lot of credit goes to Heath Streak who has worked very hard with these guys over the last couple of years.

Even the batsmen, the way they build the innings, the way they rotate strike, the way they get out of pressure situations, decision making- you will notice a gradual improvement as the series has progressed. Grant Flower is the guy responsible for this. Note he wasnt there in the West Indies series.

Both guys are very involved with players, not just as a coaches but also as mentors. They push the players, motivate them. Notice how Grant Flower quickly took the batsmen to the nets and practiced instead of watching the game from the balcony.

BCB should open its eyes and think about this a little. We need coaches of the caliber of Flower and Streak. Get either streak or flower as the head coach and appoint the other as batting or bowling coach. Now's the right time-Streak doesnt have a job. And Grant Flower will only be a batting coach under Andy Waller.

Dilscoop
May 9, 2013, 03:34 AM
Zim will succeed even with all the problems with their board and country. It's because of their genuine cricket minded ex cricketers like Streaks and Flowers. As opposed to mediocre, village cricketers and politicians. I remember during last game on CI people dropped a ton of ex Zim cricketers' names and there was an overwhelming discussion. And I set there thinking how many can we send like that and expect a great response? None. We just don't have any sort of tradition, every team has got one.

BengaliPagol
May 9, 2013, 03:58 AM
Zim will succeed even with all the problems with their board and country. It's because of their genuine cricket minded ex cricketers like Streaks and Flowers. As opposed to mediocre, village cricketers and politicians. I remember during last game on CI people dropped a ton of ex Zim cricketers' names and there was an overwhelming discussion. And I set there thinking how many can we send like that and expect a great response? None. We just don't have any sort of tradition, every team has got one.

Talking about good old HaBa and Javed Omar Belim will get any conversation started.

Gowza
May 9, 2013, 04:06 AM
guys like shakib, tamim, mushy, nasir, mash, razzak are paving the way and creating that tradition and history. they're still young, think about what their career stats and achievements will be like in 10 years time. then when people talk about BD cricket there will be some rich history and tradition.

MHRAM
May 9, 2013, 04:19 AM
There is no use of comparing ourselves to Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe have a history, and they had some quality players in their pasts who are not only role models, but also somehow involved in the development of their cricket.

Bangladesh are only just starting to make history. Its not like our players have to perform to a certain standard, they are setting the standard. If we produced class players like Sakib and Nasir, I assure you there will be quality cricketers coming through the ranks soon, Anamul and Taskin for example

Jadukor
May 9, 2013, 05:08 AM
Zimbabwe used to be a quality side in the past. I still remember the likes of Neil Jonson, Andy Flower, Grant Flower,Strang, Streak, Olonga, Campbell, Goodwin etc
They had cricketers who didn't simply swing the bat without thinking of the match situation... even today the maturity of their players in terms of having a plan, absorbing pressure is better than our players.

jeesh
May 9, 2013, 06:32 AM
I have a feeling this duo of Grant Flower and Heath Streak will follow the path of Duncan Fletcher and Andy Flower. Someone else will pick em up before we do. I know PCB was considering Grant Flower but has gone ahead with someone else.