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One World
July 5, 2014, 12:45 AM
No Neymar and no skipper but still rooting for the host. Good luck :up:.

al-Sagar
July 5, 2014, 01:48 AM
khela besh jome uthbe asha kori

Sohel
July 6, 2014, 05:48 AM
With Neymar out, Brazil must apply the 1962 formula to win this match and the final.

7+9+11=10

It was Garrincha(7), Cutinho(9), and Pepe(11) stepping up to compensate for an injured Pele(10) back then. This time Hulk(7), Fred(9), and Oscar(11) must step up for the injured Neymar(10). Of course Hulk is no Garrincha in terms of finessed finishing but Oscar is better than Pepe was and it's a now-or-never situation for Fred. I think InshAllah he'll find his form the way Higuain did after a pitiful start. All are due a couple of great games to help Brazil lift the Cup at home.

Defensively Luiz needs to be a little less adventurous until Thiago Silva returns to lead his team again. The Brazilian midfield with Gustavo coming back should allow him to do that with its solid two-way game.

Ar dadosh bekti-to achhei. Viva Brasil!

Injured Neymar says Brazil World Cup 'dream' not over

... "They took away my dream of playing in a World Cup final, but the dream of being world champion has not ended," Neymar said in remarks released by the Brazilian football federation.

"There are two games left and I am sure my teammates will do everything to lift the trophy," he said ...

... Pele said on Saturday his heart ached for Neymar after Brazil's star player was ruled out of the rest of the World Cup but noted that the team lifted the 1962 trophy despite his own injury.

The football legend, recalling that Neymar had played at Santos like him, wrote on Twitter that "it hurts our hearts to know that he can no longer defend Brazil in the World Cup."

"I was also injured during the 1962 World Cup in Chile, and I was out for the rest of the tournament," he wrote in English and Portuguese.

"But God helped Brazil continue on to win the Championship. I hope the same will happen with our Selecao in this World Cup."

Four years after winning their first World Cup, the Selecao had to play without Pele in the tournament in Chile after he was injured against Czechoslovakia in the second game.

But they managed to win their second World Cup thanks to the dribbling skills of another legend, Garrincha.

READ MORE (http://www.emirates247.com/sports/fifa-world-cup-brazil-2014/injured-neymar-says-brazil-world-cup-dream-not-over-2014-07-06-1.555526)

NoName
July 6, 2014, 03:04 PM
Really cool facts Sohel, hopefully history repeats itself :)

NoName
July 6, 2014, 03:05 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/soccer/brazil2014/video/1271250

al-Sagar
July 7, 2014, 01:13 AM
World Cup 2014: Brazil have little flair, says Joachim Low (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28187098)

Germany coach Joachim Low believes the current Brazil side have little of the flair traditionally associated with the country's national team.

Low said he was expecting a physical encounter when the teams meet in the World Cup semi-final on Tuesday, which is live on BBC1 and BBC Radio 5 live.

Luiz Felipe Scolari's side have committed 96 fouls at the tournament, picking up 10 yellow cards.

"They're playing more robustly than any other team here," said Low.

"There's little left of that traditional Brazilian style of football. At the end of the day it's up to the referee to come up with the correct punishment."

Germany midfielder Bastian Schweinsteiger agreed with his manager's assessment.

The Bayern Munich player also feels some of the Brazilian's tackles have gone too far.

"I am all for a healthy hardness but some of Brazil's fouls were over the limit," he said.

"Brazilians are not only football magicians. Hard tackling is part of their game.

"We have to be careful and so does the referee.''

FULL STORY (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28187098)

Jadukor
July 7, 2014, 01:43 AM
Felt really bad for Neymar. That tackle was horrifying to see on television. Hope he gets back to full fitness soon. Will be rooting for Brazil this game.

iDumb
July 7, 2014, 03:18 AM
Will be rooting for Brazil this game.

thumbs down..

sure a brazil vs argentina final would be great.. even more festive for people in BD...I would like to watch that too to be honest.

But then I want Germany to win the cup... this is the best german side that never won a world cup i think. they deserve one.

Germany vs argentina Final. With Germany winning.

Tigers_eye
July 7, 2014, 09:28 AM
....

But then I want Germany to win the cup... this is the best german side that never won a world cup i think. they deserve one.....
Just because of this? huh!!

The best Dutch teams (74,78) deserved two WCs. The Best Brazilian (82) team deserved a WC. It didn't happen.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 07:26 AM
I am confused who to support .... most probably I will support the german, but I also feel it would be nice to see a brazil vs argentina final.

so hoping for a good football match and the best team win

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 07:28 AM
two days wait is over ... and now it is game day ........ 6 and half hours left

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 07:29 AM
TEAM NEWS

Brazil captain Thiago Silva is banned, so Dante will deputise, but they have Luis Gustavo back from suspension.

With Neymar injured, Brazil could field a central midfield three, or else pick an attack-minded replacement such as Willian or Bernard.

Germany coach Joachim Low must decide whether to recall centre-back Per Mertesacker, who was left out against France for tactical reasons.

Low has reported no fresh injury concerns ahead of the match.

Source (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28102403)

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 07:31 AM
MATCH FACTS


Head-to-head

•Brazil and Germany have played more World Cup matches than any other side (102 and 104 respectively), but have only met once before at the tournament. That was the 2002 final, won 2-0 by the Brazilians.
•Honours are even in the three subsequent meetings. The sides drew 1-1 in a friendly in 2004, Brazil won 3-2 in a Confederations Cup semi-final in 2005 and Germany recorded a 3-2 victory in a friendly in 2011. All those matches were on German soil.
•Brazil have scored in each of their last 10 meetings with Germany, averaging 2.2 goals per game



Brazil

•Brazil committed more fouls (31) against Colombia than they have in any other World Cup match since such data has been recorded (starting in 1966).
•Their only defeat in the last 26 games came against Switzerland last August (W19, D6, L1).
•They are unbeaten in 42 successive home matches, with their last defeat coming against Paraguay in August 2002.
•The Brazilians have reached the last four of the World Cup for the 11th time, although this will only be their eighth semi-final (because of different formats at earlier tournaments).
•The only semi-final they have lost was their first, against Italy in 1938. They have won five times and drawn once - with that draw followed by a penalty shootout win against the Dutch in 1998.
•Injured Brazilian striker Neymar has played a part in 50% of Brazil's 10 goals at this World Cup (four goals, one assist).


Germany

•Germany (including West Germany) have reached the last four for the 13th time at a World Cup, although this will be their 12th semi-final (they reached the 1974 final after coming through a second group stage).
•The Germans are the first country to reach four successive World Cup semi-finals.
•Their record in their 11 previous semi-finals is four wins, five defeats and two draws - both of which were followed by penalty shootouts which they won.
•Germany are unbeaten in their last 16 internationals (W11, D5), the best run of any side still involved at the World Cup.
•Germany (three) have kept the joint highest total of clean sheets at this World Cup. Only Ghana and Algeria have managed to breach the Germans defence so far.
•Miroslav Klose could make his 23rd appearance in a World Cup match, a total bettered only by Lothar Matthaus (25). Paolo Maldini also played 23 games at the tournament.

Source (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28102403)

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 10:26 AM
Moment of truth awaits. We are divided in our house. My son picked Germany before the World Cup began. Lets go Brazil; crush Germany!!!!!!!!! This is your home turf. Defend it at all cost. Play for Neymar!!!

Holden
July 8, 2014, 12:06 PM
Hope Germany KO Brazil. I've not been impressed with Brazil. Hoping for a Germany vs Netherlands Final, if not that then Brazil vs Argentina. Either of those would mean a huge rivalry in the final, which should produce fireworks,

Banglatiger84
July 8, 2014, 02:07 PM
If Brazil starts kicking the Germans like they did the Colombians, they may be in for a nasty surprise

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 02:52 PM
Brazil: Julio Cesar, Maicon, Dante, Luiz, Marcelo, Gustavo, Fernandinho, Hulk, Oscar, Bernard, Fred.

Subs: Jefferson, Dani Alves, Paulinho, Maxwell, Henrique, Ramires, Hernanes, Willian, Jo, Victor.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 02:54 PM
Germany: Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes, Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Muller, Kroos, Ozil, Klose.

Subs: Zieler, Grosskreutz, Ginter, Schurrle, Podolski, Draxler, Durm, Mertesacker, Gotze, Kramer, Weidenfeller.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 02:55 PM
national amthems

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 02:59 PM
kick off ....

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:03 PM
its only brazil ..... the firsy 3 mins

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:04 PM
What a start from Brazil! Joga Bonito at its best. Makes you fall in love with the game all over again. If Brazil play like this for all 90 minutes, they'll win InshAllah!

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:04 PM
high tempo start ....

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:06 PM
Lot of poise and ball skill from the Brazilians in all three zones MashAllah!

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:08 PM
marcelo, dante, luis ........... maicon er chul ektu kom hoye gese

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:08 PM
Blocked by Kroos's butt. Khedira denied by his own player.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:09 PM
Muller's beautifully dispossessed by Marcelo. Another good sign.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:10 PM
Marcelo runs back to block the cross after his turnover at the other end. Muller scores his fifth from the corner.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:10 PM
Thomas Mueller ............... unmarked ...... 1-0 Germany

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:12 PM
How did he get so open in a set play?

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:14 PM
Hulk takes the ball so well but his last ball leaves a lot to be desired. Oscar and Fred need to step up now.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:15 PM
no target for that cross

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:17 PM
How did he get so open in a set play?

that was too easy for somebody like Mueller .... ....

wonderful tackle ... things hot up between ..... boating and marcelo

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:18 PM
Nothing from Fred yet.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:21 PM
oezil ..... outstrengthened by luiz

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:22 PM
and now Klose ......

the Brazil defense caught Sleeping again .... too much space and not enoughA closing down

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:23 PM
Klose scores his 16th to put Germany up 2-0. Well, this will have to be an epic comeback from Brazil to win this.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:24 PM
3-0 in no time ...... sorry brazil .......

it has been sublime passing and clinical finishing whenever the german got the ball

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:26 PM
Germans can finish like no other team in the game, ever.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:27 PM
and 4-0 .....

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:29 PM
5-0 at 29:00. Brazil have collapsed.

roman
July 8, 2014, 03:31 PM
What the heck is going on? 5-0???? This is beyond humiliation

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:33 PM
Another good chance to Germany. Almost went up 6-0. Brazilian defense without Thiago Silva may not be as good as Sk. Jamal's at this point.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:33 PM
attack korlei GOAL .....

evertime brazil seems to have unmarked players with too much space

reverse_swing
July 8, 2014, 03:33 PM
This is absolute humiliation.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:35 PM
none of the brazil defender or def midfielders are closing down or marking any zone or players ..... there just retreating ..... and german attakers are easing the ball with ease and moving around at will

iDumb
July 8, 2014, 03:37 PM
I am just enjoying it quietly.... Like I said... I don't know how this German team didn't win the world cup in last 3? specialy the previous one when most of these guys were there...

German at Best... Brazil... demoralized...

Brazil is playing like Bangladesh...

LOVING IT>> SORRY BRAZIL fans... next will be argentina... don't want dutch there....too boring for me.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:40 PM
Now Brazil aren't even getting possession. Look at the body language! :facepalm:

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:42 PM
Hulk: getting too cute with the last ball inside the box against Germany mind you, not BKSP!

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:45 PM
Fred: the Al Shahariar Rokon of Brazil.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:46 PM
the worst half of Footall brazil ever played ......

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:46 PM
Oscar: doesn't want to play anymore.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:47 PM
is there anyway back for brazil ????

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 03:47 PM
the worst half of Footall brazil ever played ......

After starting so wonderfully well. :(

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Is this for real? I am stunned.

zman
July 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this but in all seriousness Bangladesh would've put up a better fight than this :(

Moh899
July 8, 2014, 03:50 PM
is there anyway back for brazil ????

sorry to say..this aint cricket...its done means its done

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 03:51 PM
Oscar: doesn't want to play anymore.And I do not want to watch WC anymore. :facepalm:

Moh899
July 8, 2014, 03:52 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this but in all seriousness Bangladesh would've put up a better fight than this :(

really?? dont embarrass yourself..or us.

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 03:53 PM
The curse for Brazil still is on. They shouldn't bid for any WC ever again.

al-Sagar
July 8, 2014, 03:53 PM
looks like brazil have finished their quaota of tackling in the Colombia game, today they don't want to tackle and they don't even bother marking and closing down ..... german were passing for fun and finishing like net practice during the 5 goals

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 03:54 PM
really?? dont embarrass yourself..or us.
Our team would be the ghanaians, kenyans from S Russell, Jamal.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 04:03 PM
Ramires: laughably spastic attempt on goal surrounded by 3 German defenders. Ar koto bhai? Ar koto?

reverse_swing
July 8, 2014, 04:05 PM
looks like brazil have finished their quaota of tackling in the Colombia game, today they don't want to tackle and they don't even bother marking and closing down ..... german were passing for fun and finishing like net practice during the 5 goals
This is unfortunate but Brazil is playing more physically than any other team in this World Cup. Brazil has committed 96 fouls, more than any other team in this World Cup and earned the most yellow cards. This is the ugliest Brazilian team ever. There’s little left of that traditional Brazilian style of football. Last time they played FOOTBALL Was perhaps in 1990.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 04:07 PM
Ramires: last ball to Oscar dealt with by Neuer.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 04:08 PM
Finishing: the real difference between the sides.

reverse_swing
July 8, 2014, 04:09 PM
How come you miss that? ....poor finish.

Sohel
July 8, 2014, 04:11 PM
Great positional saves from Neuer. Another great german goalie in our midst. Some things never change.

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 04:51 PM
Never in my wildest dreams I could envision something like this. It feels like some one just kicked me in the guts after I had already fell and was lying down. May be the affect is more because of Shakib's punishment. I will heckle my son rest of the week.

Dilscoop
July 8, 2014, 04:51 PM
If you ever wanted see bunch of people go through all 7 stages of griefs. It was sort of funny tbh.


So no Brazil v Argentina final. Too bad.

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 04:52 PM
So 7-1 is the final score? or we will be having more fun?

Tigers_eye
July 8, 2014, 04:53 PM
This is what Shock and Awe feels like.

Ajfar
July 8, 2014, 04:57 PM
This is what Shock and Awe feels like.

This is beyond shock. I feel bad for the people of Brazil. 50+ years of wait, only to get their dream crushed. I would rather they lose to Chile or Columbia, rather than this embarrasement.

Zeeshan
July 8, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nothing but respect to this incredibly strong German team!

Dilscoop
July 8, 2014, 05:05 PM
Reminds me of our World Cup. A team that is not so good, but overhyped, disorganized, and emotionally unstable. And crashing out with 78/a.o. At least they reach Semis.

And anyone see how the coach was taking the blame for it in the huddle? I think he was saying it's on me.

NoName
July 8, 2014, 05:05 PM
Brazil pulled a BD in front of home crowd, but at least they can make it to the semis:facepalm:

Holden
July 8, 2014, 05:11 PM
Haha I knew this Brazil team was bad but I didn't expect this, I haven't seen such humiliation since...Bangladesh failed to chase 105.
Hope Netherlands smash Argentina tomorrow so we have an all European final. There's no love lost between Germany and Netherlands so should be a tasty encounter.
Forza Europe!!!

xCricketFanx
July 8, 2014, 05:25 PM
Brazil battered. 7-1 to Germany!!

Zeeshan
July 8, 2014, 05:26 PM
at least they didn't have to qualify :facepalwedrcm:

Dilscoop
July 8, 2014, 05:35 PM
Still chance for a Brazil v Argentina. Although I hope that doesn't happen for Messi's sake.

NoName
July 8, 2014, 05:52 PM
Haha I knew this Brazil team was bad but I didn't expect this, I haven't seen such humiliation since...Bangladesh failed to chase 105.
Hope Netherlands smash Argentina tomorrow so we have an all European final. There's no love lost between Germany and Netherlands so should be a tasty encounter.
Forza Europe!!!

Argentina is a team that has a terrible track record against Germany too :lol:

BengaliPagol
July 8, 2014, 06:27 PM
Watching Brazil play in the group matches i wondered how can they be coming up with wins. They aren't even a good team. It was just Thiago Silva that held them together. And now they have been brought down to earth.

SS
July 8, 2014, 08:09 PM
I am speechless about today's game and also amazed how things happen in sports..like our WC in cricket when we hosted and how our team performed, how in NBA finals LeBron's team got defeated, and now how Brazil got booted out.

I guess this is sports but not too sure what happend to the Brazilian players from 11 to 29 minutes when they consumed 5 goals!!!

Ajfar
July 8, 2014, 08:39 PM
Watching Brazil play in the group matches i wondered how can they be coming up with wins. They aren't even a good team. It was just Thiago Silva that held them together. And now they have been brought down to earth.

I think the team is decent, but the expectation placed on this team was too much. This team was never set up to win the WC. Being the host nation Brazil was always going to have a lot of expectation placed on them. But if Brazil hadn't won the confederation cup last summer I don't think the expectation would have been this high. Things just so happen to work out for them during the confederation cup.

Zeeshan
July 8, 2014, 08:57 PM
Brazil lacked their "natural game" dosage of Rx. Germans played as if you had to guess with where the ball's gonna go. Great tactics. While some traces of samba flair was there, they even missed basic shots in front of 'faka goal'. Probably they need a new coach for next cup. LOL Entire stadium was stunned and 50 year old ladies crying. lololol.... I wish I could see the game with English broadcast as Univision was the only station showing it here on tv.

iDumb
July 8, 2014, 09:27 PM
Bro where the hell do you live?....there is espn3 online that broadcast game in hd....

go to the nearest bar or something i don't know.... you sound really dumb man.... utterly dumb... you should take my handle...

One World
July 8, 2014, 10:25 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_national_football_team#Results_and_fixtures

Now click on the monogram above the search box in Google and revisit the seven conceded goals. What do you infer from the body language of two defenders? Except the last goal in every occasion there is some sort of negligence to notice. The degree of clumsiness is highly prominent and crystal clear during the historic goal of Miroslav Klose.

iDumb
July 9, 2014, 12:51 AM
I have a new math for Sohel Bhai....

7+9+11= 7

Mind koiren na bhaiya.


*btw that's font size 7 just in case anyone wondering. :p

cluster11
July 9, 2014, 12:42 PM
Yesterday's Brazil - Germany semi-final was the worst unexpected soccer experience in my entire life. And I think some commentator's rightly said this can only happen once in a lifetime. After the first 30 mins I told my kids - just go upstairs; and my Dad and I just watched and it felt like we are taking a beating by just looking at the tv. I can't really express in words how it felt.
It is not just the scoreline (which is historic in many ways) but the fact that these 2 teams are quiet strong and nobody got an easy pass to the semi-finals. Only explanation I can think of is this : this match happened the way it did because of a number of events before the match and during the match that combined to create a result very very unlikely.

1) Brazil's easy path to Semis: Brazil didn't have to qualify for the WC. Since the unexpected Confederation cup success they haven't really been tested "together" as a team until the World Cup. In the very first group match Brazil conceded own goal within first 10 mins of the match and that was a big red-flag on their back-line. I almost started thinking of them at that point as the 1990 Brazil team (which is the worst I've seen so far) that had exited in the 2nd round to Argentina. As the tournament progressed they barely made through against good teams (not best teams): Mexico, Chile and Columbia.

2) Brazil's advantage turned weakness: The team had no strong defense compared to other big names, no strong midfield, but they did have a powerful offense. They made up the weakness by pulling together as a team, and we saw this a little bit against Croatia (when they went down 0-1) and a lot against Columbia in the QF. When they played as a team they were pretty good. But the glue to this teamwork: Neymer in front and Thiego Silva in the back, was broken after Columbia match. Germany used this to perfection.

3) Emotional impact of home: Brazil has a skill set of players. But playing at home in WC is tremendous pressure for them. I didn't really know what it is until I saw in this WC, I have only heard of this pressure on them from historical account of 1950. Emotional impact on putting that Brazilian jersey in front of home crowd made this team play with their heart more than their brain as we saw in match after match. When they finally faced one of the best offense and midfield in Germany, they still had the attacking mindset of Columbia match with nothing to back it up except emotion.

4) Emotion leads to disaster: When Brazil conceded the first goal, they correctly went on attack and created chances. There was that close call for penalty on a hard tackle. But you could see how dejected the defense became when they gave up that second goal. That was really the end of the match for Brazil. At that point they went into unplanned attack mode with no cohesion for next 15 mins and that's what Germany made them pay for. After that first 35 mins I would say rest of the match pretty much became what we could expect. Both teams attacking and Germany getting the better of it with a 2-1.

5) Germany is a master of doing this type of destruction: I recall Germany from last World Cup as well. How they destroyed England 4-1. How they destroyed Messi's Argentina 4-0. And Portugal 4-0 in this World Cup (which easily could have been 6-0). So it was always a possibility of a 3-0 or 4-1 blowout against Brazil. What made it really worse was the absence of Neymar and Thiego Silva and the suicide mode of 15 mins when Brazil gave up those 4 goals.

Some interesting afterthought...
If Neymar was there, I think the score would be 5-3 or 6-3, given how exposed Germany's back line became in the beginning of the second half. It would be an exciting scoring feast until Germany would close it down when they start conceding goals. Germany's biggest weakness is their defense against flanked speedy attack and long balls which we saw in Ghana match. Brazil's full offense could have scored 3 goals easily (and of course Germany would counter attack and score more). But with Neymar out and Hulk and Fred taken out, it was painfully obvious how these other strikers are lacking the mental strength to push through for a goal. Oscar actually scored in the end from a tougher position than 3-4 other chances the rest of the strikers got in the first 15 mins of second half.

Finally, Brazil is actually improving overall since the super team of 2002! That is kind of hard to envision after a loss like that but consider this: in 2006 Brazil's much vaunted attack with Ronaldinho as the star midfielder only made to quarterfinals before being soundly beaten by France. In 2010 they self-destruct with Kakka and Co. to the Netherlands. This time I expected a repeat against a very skilled Columbia but they actually made it to the semis. They are also the confederation Cup champion from previous year. And their star striker has at least 2 more world cup in him.
With a good coach and some bruising experience like these, this team can go forward and do lot better. I believe it because like hundreds of millions all round the World I know Brazil always comes through and plays good futbol year after year, decade after decade even if they don't win it all the way through. I believe in Brazil.

iDumb
July 9, 2014, 01:41 PM
Good post cluster. you are obviously a hard core brazil fan but very reasonable well dissecting post..

but bro, did u like my math formula on the previous post? :goal: