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Rana Melb
March 16, 2016, 06:01 PM
Even though our t20 squad starts playing well since couple of months, however, half of our batters are not suited in this format. Such as Mushi, Mithun, Nasir etc. We have almost same set of batsmen are playing every format<?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape style="WIDTH: 14.25pt; HEIGHT: 14.25pt; VISIBILITY: visible; mso-wrap-style: square" id=Picture_x0020_2 alt="0" type="#_x0000_t75" o:spid="_x0000_i1026"><v:imagedata o:title="0" src="file:///C:\Users\rislam1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\0 1\clip_image001.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape> . We don’t have any power hitter. Our stand by T20 batsmen are Imrul and Hom<v:shape style="WIDTH: 13.5pt; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; VISIBILITY: visible; mso-wrap-style: square" id=Picture_x0020_1 alt="0" type="#_x0000_t75" o:spid="_x0000_i1025"> <v:imagedata o:title="0" src="file:///C:\Users\rislam1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\0 1\clip_image002.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape>both sucks in this format.<o:p></o:p>
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Don’t we have any other batsman in our domestic circuit who are capable to play in this format? What we have got from this BPL? I put up some name as potential<o:p></o:p>
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Big Z<o:p></o:p>
Jahrul<o:p></o:p>
Liton (?)<o:p></o:p>
Zia (?)<o:p></o:p>
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*Sorry I am struggling to remember anyone else….may be anamul <o:p></o:p>
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In a nutshell, we need to find at least 2 stroke makers to make our squad strong. We cannot afford to play with these non t20 batsmen.:ohno:<o:p></o:p>

NoName
March 16, 2016, 06:08 PM
We have a pace hunter program, why not open up a 'Hack Hunt Program'

Prepare the flattest pitch possible and get some bowlers from the national team to bowl and see which players can slog and hoick the ball over the place. Find the big hitters, regardless of technique as long as they can take advantage of a damn flat pitch to score 4s and 6s

Rana Melb
March 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
I support quick fire 20/25 than struggling 30 runs innings. The problem is selectors are stereotype they don't think out of the box.

WarWolf
March 16, 2016, 07:04 PM
What is the criteria to be considered?

jeesh
March 16, 2016, 10:50 PM
Sorry but we dont have anyone outside the national squad. And even if some of them do end up performing in BPL, they will struggle in international cricket.

Anamul, Liton, Mominul etc all had the opportunity to prove themselves in BPL but didnt.

Even in the NT, except Shabbir, Tamim, Shakib and maybe Riyad none of the others are quite worthy of the T20 format.

One World
March 16, 2016, 11:14 PM
Who is the Kapali?

patriot
March 16, 2016, 11:16 PM
Mohammed Ashraful Matin - Tailor made for T20 batting.

Roey Haque
March 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
Anamul,Anamul,Anamul

The man should be in the squad already. One injury, and subsequently the selectors have forgotten about him. Btw, he can come good in ODI also.

Give Anamul a chance.

Also, I see you dismissed Kayes very quickly. Don't. Deserves more chances, he is acually one of our better 6 hitters in the team. I mean you give cons like Mushy chances after chances, can't hurt to give Kayes a run as well. Also Kayes has proper technique , not a hack job like Mithun or Zia.

Btw, remove the myth from your mind that hacks are suited to T20. Hacks are not suited to any format. We need players who have technique first, but then who also are ultra aggressive, who watch the ball closely and want to clear the boundary as many times as possible in their innings.

MHRAM
March 16, 2016, 11:50 PM
We have a batsman who has a excellent average by our standards in T20Is and T20s in general, one of the performers in 2012 and 2013 edition, a better keeper than Mushfiq and if needed is a very agile fielder.

Big Z sucks.

Liton has a lot of potential because he has some muscles but he has a mental block.

We need to have another T20 tournament barring the BPL and that tournament should be short and no international players needed

ahnaf
March 17, 2016, 12:27 AM
I would bring back Big Z .

Rana Melb
March 17, 2016, 12:45 AM
I miss asha in this format.. Big Z is not a bad choice.

cricket_king
March 17, 2016, 01:10 AM
Anamul,Anamul,Anamul

The man should be in the squad already. One injury, and subsequently the selectors have forgotten about him. Btw, he can come good in ODI also.

Give Anamul a chance.

Also, I see you dismissed Kayes very quickly. Don't. Deserves more chances, he is acually one of our better 6 hitters in the team. I mean you give cons like Mushy chances after chances, can't hurt to give Kayes a run as well. Also Kayes has proper technique , not a hack job like Mithun or Zia.

Btw, remove the myth from your mind that hacks are suited to T20. Hacks are not suited to any format. We need players who have technique first, but then who also are ultra aggressive, who watch the ball closely and want to clear the boundary as many times as possible in their innings.


Imrul's technique is ideal for slip-catching practice. His clueless pokes and wafts against the new ball is truly cringe-worthy. Whether you have him there, or some "hack" like Mithun or Zia, you will acquire the same result - a single digit score and a subsequent early wicket.

Anamul's footwork is similarly cringe-worthy. But I concede that he is very much suited to only the shortest format and a far better performer than the current bunch.

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 01:54 AM
Mushy is just out of form now. When in form, he's a world-class ODI batsman and an OK T20 one. He's our best WK-batsman.

#2 and #7 are the key weaknesses in the batting lineup. Hopefully, one of Soumya and Anamul will come good. Both have potential. #7 is a bigger worry. Currently, there's no good power-hitting batsman on the horizon.

This is probably the best T20 team we can field now:

Tamim
Anamul
Sabbir
Shakib
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Soumya
Mashrafe (unless he's retiring)
Taijul/Al-Amin (selection based on pitch/conditions)
Taskin
Mustafiz

That's where Soumya plays in Tests. He shouldn't be playing Tests, but he could do a decent job there in the T20 format.

As far as bowling is concerned, would like to see Taijul given a chance as our spin option in Arafat's stead. And Mash should bowl 2-3 overs and give Mahmudullah 1-2.

Rinathq
March 17, 2016, 02:12 AM
I believe Bangladesh as a whole is a very amateur and subpar T20 side. There aint anyone specialist waiting on the sidelines. But that just means, the two option is to A) Stick with a set of players and back them to perform or B)keep trying new players and cash in on those once in a while performances. Plan A hasnt been working for us in this format. So its high time we switch to plan B. T20 is a game of nerves and thats probably why you see so many young talents failing to convert their Test and ODI performance onto T20 but you see a lot of these Veterans being the stars of the format. BCB has always ignored our list veterans so that tells why we are behind.

Based on what I saw in the last 5-6 years, my list of players that has a good chance of performing are, (note: they are not all veterans)

Shahriar Nafees
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Junayed Siddique
Mosharraf Hossain
Saqlain Sajib
Taijul Islam
Jahirul Islam

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 02:28 AM
Based on what I saw in the last 5-6 years, my list of players that has a good chance of performing are, (note: they are not all veterans)

Shahriar Nafees
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Junayed Siddique
Mosharraf Hossain
Saqlain Sajib
Taijul Islam
Jahirul Islam

They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.

Can't comment on Kapali because he hardly got the chance to bat even when he started because he had Zaidi, who played well in most games, in front of him.

Taijul and Mosharraf were decent. (Definitely better than Arafat in BPL 3.) My pick is Taijul.

BD_TigerZ
March 17, 2016, 02:35 AM
They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.


Yeah Mushy doesn't belong in the NT setup aswell then.

Rinathq
March 17, 2016, 02:38 AM
They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.

Can't comment on Kapali because he hardly got the chance to bat even when he started because he had Zaidi, who played well in most games, in front of him.

Taijul and Mosharraf were decent. (Definitely better than Arafat in BPL 3.) My pick is Taijul.

For the record, Jahirul, Nafees, Alok performed better then Soumya, Mushy, Nasir, Mithun.... So i guess they dont belong either

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 02:45 AM
Yeah Mushy doesn't belong in the NT setup aswell then.

Mushy currently is out of form. Before he went out of form he was averaging 50+ in ODIs and was decent in T20s.

Nafees, Shamsur, Junayed, and Jahurul were never good (Nafees served his purpose against the Zimbabwes a long time ago.).

And even when Mushy is out of form, the difference in technique between him and those batsmen is apparent.

Shehwar
March 17, 2016, 02:49 AM
I'm a fan of Big Z specially in the T20 format. He can get that quick 25 in a destructive fearless fashion.

I was in the ground in Nottingham for that World T20 knock against India in 2009. All the Indian fans around me were so worried seeing what he was doing to their bowlers. If he had stayed in another 15 balls we would have won that game.

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 02:49 AM
For the record, Jahirul, Nafees, Alok performed better then Soumya, Mushy, Nasir, Mithun.... So i guess they dont belong either

They didn't perform better than Nasir. Nasir scored a few run a ball 30s. Nafees and Jahurul were completely useless, and Alok barely got a chance to bat.

Soumya is yet to look good in the T20 format. Mithun is yet to look good as a cricketer.

Gowza
March 17, 2016, 02:50 AM
I don't know if there are many outside of the national team, maybe junaid if he's improved... Maybe kapali, I think shamsur could get more chances, otherwise I think we need to look at youngsters but most have been given a bit of a run already e.g. liton.

There really isn't anyone ready outside the national team imo, it's going to require work to get any of them up to standard. Also it's not like mushy and others currently in the team don't have the ability, they just are making poor decisions when out in the middle, not focusing etc. mushy has all the capability to be a really good t20 batsman, he's showed that ability in other formats.

Naimul_Hd
March 17, 2016, 02:57 AM
Where is our "Chokka Naeem" ? We had so much hope on Chokka Naeem, now he is totally out of focus.

Remember this match

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Shehwar
March 17, 2016, 02:59 AM
I don't know if there are many outside of the national team, maybe junaid if he's improved... Maybe kapali, I hunk shamsur could get more chances, otherwise I think we need to look at youngsters but most have been given a bit of a run already e.g. liton.

There really isn't anyone ready outside the national team imo, it's going to require work to get any of them up to standard. Also it's not like mushy and others currently in the team don't have the ability, they just are making poor decisions when out in the middle, not focusing etc. mushy has all the capability to be a really good t20 batsman, he's showed that ability in other formats.

Unfortunately Kapali looks overweight so his fitness won't be up to the mark.

Shaan
March 17, 2016, 03:12 AM
Unfortunately Kapali looks overweight so his fitness won't be up to the mark.
bhai, that is not issue. look at the pakistani bastman like Sharjeel or Imad they are very chubby looking, the thing is we need a batsman who can score, and his fitness that can be bring back by caoching stuff. It is not only imply to Kapali i mean in gneral for any batsman who can score few runs for us. Kapali has experince of playing international level. So what worse will happen if he can come in place of Mithun. Look at Soaib malik after many years not selected in team, and now rightly picked he is showing his value in the team. It not like that Malik immidiately started scoring runs after his return, he struugled a bit at the begining but selectors showed the confidance and now paying off.

Rinathq
March 17, 2016, 03:36 AM
They didn't perform better than Nasir. Nasir scored a few run a ball 30s. Nafees and Jahurul were completely useless, and Alok barely got a chance to bat.

Soumya is yet to look good in the T20 format. Mithun is yet to look good as a cricketer.

Check the stats... Watch the highlights. Nasir was the worst of the lot!

Mas_UK25
March 17, 2016, 03:56 AM
I hope most the orthodox fans will wisern up. T20 you need hacks yes hacks techniques doesnt matter you need power hitters even if they are wild but can power it on FLAT WICKETS as most wickets in T20's will be FLAT everywhere.

These players are needed back in the T20 fold:
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Nafeez
Ziaur
Nazmul Milon (needs a International T20 chances to start with)


Simple have to work with these bunch. They all have potential to be good t20i players, all them have big hits, power batting ability. Kapali on flat wickets can be what he was at ICL! Even Ziaur will be a beast on flat wickets, Nafeez showed what he can do on flat wickets many a times, Shamsur score a brilliant 96 on flat wicket (3rd ODI VS NZ 2013). All these players play well on flat wickets, they know the strength how to bat on flat wickets better than quite few we have in the side.

BanglaNAus
March 17, 2016, 04:01 AM
I hope most the orthodox fans will wisern up. T20 you need hacks yes hacks techniques doesnt matter you need power hitters even if they are wild but can power it on FLAT WICKETS as most wickets in T20's will be FLAT everywhere.

These players are needed back in the T20 fold:
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Nafeez
Ziaur
Nazmul Milon (needs a International T20 chances to start with)


Simple have to work with these bunch. They all have potential to be good t20i players, all them have big hits, power batting ability. Kapali on flat wickets can be what he was at ICL! Even Ziaur will be a beast on flat wickets, Nafeez showed what he can do on flat wickets many a times, Shamsur score a brilliant 96 on flat wicket (3rd ODI VS NZ 2013). All these players play well on flat wickets, they know the strength how to bat on flat wickets better than quite few we have in the side.

In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen

T

BD_TigerZ
March 17, 2016, 04:06 AM
Mushy currently is out of form. Before he went out of form he was averaging 50+ in ODIs and was decent in T20s.

Nafees, Shamsur, Junayed, and Jahurul were never good (Nafees served his purpose against the Zimbabwes a long time ago.).

And even when Mushy is out of form, the difference in technique between him and those batsmen is apparent.

Technique isn't what we are after at 6 with 5 overs left. IDC what he averages in 50 overs the fact is he sucks in T20s and your reasons trying to justify his inclusion are lackluster to say the least.

I fail to understand what your "decent" is

46 innings
50 hs
17.81 avg
111.34 sr @6
1 50

Very decent am I right?

Wakidul
March 17, 2016, 04:28 AM
What about Jahural islam. I think he had an ok BPL if I remember correctly?

Mas_UK25
March 17, 2016, 04:34 AM
In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen



What I mean by Hacks. Is players who can TONK it, power hitters, big hitters. Finch, Warner, Kock, Hales all play to a t20 style batting with a t20 style solid base.

jeesh
March 17, 2016, 06:05 AM
It might not be a bad idea for BCB to identify a few players whose skills might be useful for T20. Involve them in HP. Dont be discouraged by age. Work on their technique, fitness etc.

For instance Junaid Siddiqui is probably one of the biggest hitters i ve seen in Bangladesh. The bloke has big shoulders and strong upper body. On top of that he is an exceptionally gifted timer. But he is inconsitent, has a lot of technical issues. But its a 20 over game. A good coach would look to negate the impact of his weaknesses, and work on his strength which is to hit big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-auKiFmuiY

Abirz
March 17, 2016, 06:11 AM
I think Nafees and Kapali are better T20 batsmen than Soumya and Mushfiq

Rana Melb
March 17, 2016, 08:21 AM
I think Nafees and Kapali are better T20 batsmen than Soumya and Mushfiq

Im kinda agree with this. Sarkar might improve with time.

Rana Melb
March 17, 2016, 08:25 AM
Big Z is a Big miss in this pitch. He could do a mayhem! !

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 11:19 AM
In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen

T

Yep, T20 is about stroke-playing, not hacking at the ball. Some fans have the wrong impression of the format.

We're lacking a power-hitter in one position (#7), not a blind slogger with zero technique. We already have one of the latter in the squad in Mithun right now.

Technique isn't what we are after at 6 with 5 overs left. IDC what he averages in 50 overs the fact is he sucks in T20s and your reasons trying to justify his inclusion are lackluster to say the least.

I fail to understand what your "decent" is

46 innings
50 hs
17.81 avg
111.34 sr @6
1 50

Very decent am I right?

If you're going to look at Mushy's whole career average, then he isn't a decent ODI batsman either. That's because he only reached his peak ability a few years ago. And his club Twenty20 avg is 26 with a SR of 122 which isn't bad.

You might as well drop Tamim too then because not too long ago his T20I avg was ~20, and he has an avg SR of 115.

Mushy is our best WK-batsman in both LOI formats. Who do you want to start ahead of him, Nurul or Liton?

epitaph
March 17, 2016, 11:23 AM
Big Z is a Big miss in this pitch. He could do a mayhem! !

Who's Big Z, Banglar Hulk?

rezwansyed
March 17, 2016, 12:22 PM
Truly speaking, I miss Ashraful...atleast in T20Is. Ash seems to me is tailor-made for T20s. You don't need too much intelligence in T20, Self-belief and the ability to back it up. If you ask me for three players outside national T20 side who needs to be in, they are in order:

Md. Ashraful
Alok Kapali
Shahriar Nafees

I don't want any new face in the squad, all 3 has experience, they know all-about International level cricket.

hoodlum
March 17, 2016, 12:28 PM
Who's Big Z, Banglar Hulk?

Zunaed Siddique

shabbir
March 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Zunaed Siddique

ZIaur Rahman

Shubho
March 17, 2016, 12:42 PM
বর্তমান স্কুয়াডের বাইরে এমন কোন খেলোয়ার নেই, যে নাকি নিশ্চিতভাবে আমাদের পাছা রক্ষা করতে পারে!

Shehwar
March 17, 2016, 04:00 PM
ZIaur Rahman

I'm pretty sure all of us are talking about Zunaid Siddiqi when we say Big Z bro

hoodlum
March 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
ZIaur Rahman

I'm pretty sure all of us are talking about Zunaid Siddiqi when we say Big Z bro

There you go.

tiger_army
March 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
you have to be very innovative in T20, in many matches opposition bowlers will ball with lots of variations and tight line and length. so you cant play basic cricket and you have to be very innovative to score runs. just look at Shahzad from Afghanistan, he got no techniques but he is very innovative. None of our batsman are innovative that way.

Zeeshan
March 17, 2016, 06:47 PM
Nazimuddin.

Shehwar
March 18, 2016, 02:19 AM
I remember I was in the ground that day when Big Z made this 41 of 22 balls and had the Indians worried for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pFljWhJCV4

jeesh
March 18, 2016, 08:47 AM
He (JS) and Kapali should be training at HP. There is nothing called too old for this format. Look how well Dilshan played yesterday and who would know he is 39.

With the training, improvement in fitness if they can deliver in BPL etc give them a chance instead of picking random guys like Mohammad Mithun.

Btw Kapali scored heavily in BCL. Feel we shouldnt still give up on him.

Rana Melb
March 18, 2016, 09:47 AM
Nazimuddin.

Back to stone age?

Rana Melb
March 18, 2016, 09:50 AM
সবুজ হাল্ক!

Fazal
March 18, 2016, 03:29 PM
First thing first. Except for few players, the rest should be concentrating only either one or two format; not all format. You add more players and assign the to just one ( or two) format and give them more time to prove them one way or another.

We are screwing up our players by letting them play all three formats.

For example, for T20, we completely need different kind of batsman.

For some, Rahim is a great batsman and defend him in T20, But to me, even in his best days, he was below par T20 batsman. He doesn't have the skillset to be batting at #5 or #6. You con not be successful in T20 with this type of batsman.

Max100
March 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
He (JS) and Kapali should be training at HP. There is nothing called too old for this format. Look how well Dilshan played yesterday and who would know he is 39.

With the training, improvement in fitness if they can deliver in BPL etc give them a chance instead of picking random guys like Mohammad Mithun.

Btw Kapali scored heavily in BCL. Feel we shouldnt still give up on him.

i totally agree with you.

kapali is custom made player for T20, his bowling will be useful too. In BD, we dont know which player is right for which format. otherwise, why javed omar, mehrab jr, mominul, liton das, mushfiq rahim are playing T20

if you consider age, just look at these player and their performance for national team

misbah
grant elliott
adam vogues

for some country player get their debut at 31. why we discard our player so early?

mithun, nurul, mushfiq, soumya are not helping our national team

view360
March 18, 2016, 06:23 PM
Probably , we need T20 specialists who never play longer version cricket instead of jack of all trade.

jeesh
March 19, 2016, 02:22 AM
This is why i feel we might need a bit of change in our selection panel. Faruque, Bashar, Nannu are all traditional orthodox type of thinkers. As long as they are around 30 will always be deemed a retirement age for players except those who are already in the team.

I doubt they even see Kapali, Mosharrof as options for even the third team.

You need to be very creative in terms of the squad you build to do well in the T20 format

epitaph
March 21, 2016, 12:16 PM
Some of you got your wish today with Saqlain. Hope you now believe what I said about him.

Strange selection to pick this ordinary bowler instead of Taijul.

He couldn't even get selected in BPL, and whenever he did play, looked ordinary.

jeesh
March 21, 2016, 12:19 PM
He was poor. I guess that ll be the end of him.

Ajfar
March 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
T20 batsmans aren't just going to appear out of nowhere. We still dont have a proper T20 set up. Until this past BPL when was the last time we had a real T20 donestic tournament? Over 2 years ago. We still are not putting enough emphasis on domestic T20 cricket. I will take a BPL without any international players if thats what we have to do. Our T20 team is not going to improve if we are not putting enough emphasis on T20. Right now we still take ODI performance and select T20 and test player. For example check Soumya's FC stat and figure out why he has been a regular in our Test team.